Erroneous road signs

[Alps]

This sign in Easton, PA on PA 611 North has the wrong shield in place for US 22. Also, take note of the sign at the bottom left, those 'keep left' signs are pretty rare to see pretty much anywhere on a main road in the US.

[LARGE PHOTO]

So that's a brand-new condition; 611 up until at least last year was undivided through Easton. It's so new that while it shows up on Google aerial, it hasn't made it to the Street View.

[cpzilliacus]

Va. 120 (North Glebe Road) northbound approaching Quebec Street.

A new bolt will probably fix this:

[cpzilliacus]

Still Va. 120 (North Glebe Road) northbound at Va. 237 (Fairfax Drive).

Some very traditional Virginia shields, but a non-traditional shape (at least in North America) for the adjacent pedestrian crosswalk sign:

[Takumi]

Forget the shields, look at that S2000!

[JMoses24]

I'd argue that the second sign cpzillacus posted, while non-traditional, is not erroneous because it conveys that there is a crosswalk at that location.

The first is in a temporary erroneous state by nature of being upside down. After all, I don't think the world has turned upside down yet.

[KEVIN_224]

A friend of mine in Bristol, CT (a.k.a. ESPN Land) was in and around Newark, NJ the other day and made these comments to me:

BTW, I have no idea why I just remembered this, but I was heading from Newark over to Jersey City via NJ 7 on Wednesday, and there was construction afoot. But the sign warning me of a possible detour was a shield for *US* 7, which doesn't even go into New Jersey. How'd they get one? Wasn't expecting it, so didn't have the camera ready, but maybe one of your Road Geeks can check it out. This was at the end of EB 280, but instead of getting on the Turnpike, you take the last exit onto EB 508 for like a mile before it meets up with 7.

[theline]

Va. 120 (North Glebe Road) northbound approaching Quebec Street.

A new bolt will probably fix this:

Cirque du Soleil crossing?

[cpzilliacus]

The first is in a temporary erroneous state by nature of being upside down. After all, I don't think the world has turned upside down yet.

VDOT's maintenance forces will get around to correcting the sign at some point (I did report it to them).

[1995hoo]

The first is in a temporary erroneous state by nature of being upside down. After all, I don't think the world has turned upside down yet.

VDOT's maintenance forces will get around to correcting the sign at some point (I did report it to them).

Does VDOT maintain that sign? That location is in Arlington County, which is one of the counties that maintains its own roads, although I know VDOT still maintains Interstates and "major primary roads" there. I don't know how they determine what constitutes a "major primary road" (aside from Route 50 surely qualifying).

[WillWeaverRVA]

The first is in a temporary erroneous state by nature of being upside down. After all, I don't think the world has turned upside down yet.

VDOT's maintenance forces will get around to correcting the sign at some point (I did report it to them).

Does VDOT maintain that sign? That location is in Arlington County, which is one of the counties that maintains its own roads, although I know VDOT still maintains Interstates and "major primary roads" there. I don't know how they determine what constitutes a "major primary road" (aside from Route 50 surely qualifying).

VDOT maintains primary routes in Arlington County, yes. "Major primary road" = a primary route. The same is true in Henrico County.

[cpzilliacus]

The first is in a temporary erroneous state by nature of being upside down. After all, I don't think the world has turned upside down yet.

VDOT's maintenance forces will get around to correcting the sign at some point (I did report it to them).

Does VDOT maintain that sign? That location is in Arlington County, which is one of the counties that maintains its own roads, although I know VDOT still maintains Interstates and "major primary roads" there. I don't know how they determine what constitutes a "major primary road" (aside from Route 50 surely qualifying).

As Will said, VDOT maintains anything that is numbered in Arlington County, with the exception of "secret" Va. 90005, the George Washington Memorial Parkway, which is maintained by the National Park Services.

Only "funny" variation of that is Va. 244 (Columbia Pike), which I believe has been decommissioned in Arlington County in preparation for the Columbia Pike Streetcar (which was recently denied discretionary New Starts program funding by the Federal Transit Administration).  The 244 shields along the Pike in Arlington County have been removed, though there are several of them at crossing state roads (the 2011 VDOT traffic count book implies that it is no longer on the state primary network in Arlington County, though it still is in Fairfax County).

[Mapmikey]

Only "funny" variation of that is Va. 244 (Columbia Pike), which I believe has been decommissioned in Arlington County in preparation for the Columbia Pike Streetcar (which was recently denied discretionary New Starts program funding by the Federal Transit Administration).  The 244 shields along the Pike in Arlington County have been removed, though there are several of them at crossing state roads (the 2011 VDOT traffic count book implies that it is no longer on the state primary network in Arlington County, though it still is in Fairfax County).

0.37 miles of VA 244 at VA 27 are still maintained by VDOT, according to the traffic log.

I wonder if this sign is still up:



Mapmikey

[1995hoo]

Where was that sign? I have Caps tickets tonight and I drive to games (picking up my wife en route), so I could look for it if it isn't too far out of the way and if I hit the road early enough.

[Mapmikey]

GMSV has been updated in that neighborhood from 4 years ago and it is still shown as standing as of June 2012.

It is on S. Highland St just east of VA 120.  This was part of a neighborhood clover at some point.

Mapmikey

[agentsteel53]

that VA 244 looks to be old as dust.  I'm not sure what the relative history is between cutouts and white squares, but I know the 1964 Virginia MUTCD specified cutouts, and I've seen 50s photos of white squares.

[Mapmikey]

I don't know a definitive answer to your question but I do know that there were numerous white VA 44 shields which would've all been placed in very late 60s.

Then of course there is Roanoke who replaced all their cutouts with mini white shields in the early 90s.  The Alexandra 400 series routes from early 80s started out as white shields.

Mapmikey

[agentsteel53]

I don't know a definitive answer to your question but I do know that there were numerous white VA 44 shields which would've all been placed in very late 60s.

Then of course there is Roanoke who replaced all their cutouts with mini white shields in the early 90s.  The Alexandra 400 series routes from early 80s started out as white shields.

Mapmikey

indeed.  I bet that VA played fast and loose with the standards - as they do now, placing 16" black squares where 24" shields would rightly belong.

[1995hoo]

GMSV has been updated in that neighborhood from 4 years ago and it is still shown as standing as of June 2012.

It is on S. Highland St just east of VA 120.  This was part of a neighborhood clover at some point.

Mapmikey

Thanks. Just west of the Cinema 'n Drafthouse, then. That's not far out of the way at all if I leave 15 or 20 minutes earlier. I'll try to swing through there this afternoon to see if it's there unless Brown's Hardware in Falls Church says they have the part I'm trying to find when I call them in a few minutes (in which case I won't be going anywhere near Columbia Pike).

[Mapmikey]

While check GMSV to see status of other cutouts, I wandered out SR 610 to see if any other white 610 shields existed in Big Stone Gap.

I found this, from Aug 2009.  Looks like a circle imposed onto an upside down state shield...

http://goo.gl/maps/Y6dzQ

Mapmikey

[1995hoo]

The Highland Street sign was still there about 20 minutes ago:



There are some fairly old black-background 244 shields on southbound Glebe Road just north of Columbia Pike (prior to the shopping center where Brenner's Bakery used to be). I knew those were there previously but did not get a picture today because I was driving northbound and confirmed their continued existence by checking my mirrors.

[djsinco]

While check GMSV to see status of other cutouts, I wandered out SR 610 to see if any other white 610 shields existed in Big Stone Gap.

I found this, from Aug 2009.  Looks like a circle imposed onto an upside down state shield...

http://goo.gl/maps/Y6dzQ

Mapmikey

Looks like a big fried egg, or a UT shield with bee colony collapse disorder

[mefailenglish]

A Palm Beach County special:



First, it's supposed to be US 98.  Second, the fastest way to US 98 is actually straight ahead about 1500 feet.

[xcellntbuy]

Despite the "FL 98" sign being incorrect, it is actually a better depiction of the State's outline.  There are many Florida outlines that look sloppy or just plain sad.

[Brandon]

^^ Yeah, it's a nice looking shield, but it's placement and the route it is referring to is wrong.  A case of precision lacking accuracy.

[Duke87]

Ready for a bunch of Hudson Valley/Catskill fail? Okay, here goes...

One of MANY NY 209 shields on US 209 between Port Jervis and Ellenville:


State routes all promoted to US:


More state routes all promoted to US:


The opposite problem:


and finally...

AAAAAGH!