http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3713/9429159936_7a98374755_c.jp
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I was wondering what method (or methods) of area airport trail blazing is being used by your local road agencies. Above is how the OOCEA is now using to denote the Orlando International Airport with either a black airplane on white square or this with a green airplane on a white square.
As I have traveled around the nation, I always found airport trailblazing to be fascinating in each area, as it seems all agencies like to refer to their respective airports in a different form or another.
New Jersey uses brown panels on their BGS to refer to Newark International Airport. Airport commissioned signage uses a different font (looks like Clearview).
Here's some GMSV views:
http://goo.gl/maps/utv2M
http://goo.gl/maps/IJU3Q
http://goo.gl/maps/ryYtg
http://goo.gl/maps/1cOSk
Quote from: Zeffy on August 04, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
New Jersey uses brown panels on their BGS to refer to Newark International Airport. Airport commissioned signage uses a different font (looks like Clearview).
Here's some GMSV views:
http://goo.gl/maps/utv2M
Their airport logo looks like a psychedelic peace sign from 1968.
I remember those quite vividly as I lived in Northern New Jersey for over 25 years. Actually the original signing was "Newark Airport" and these did not come into play until the late 80's. At the time I thought these signs were cool and still do actually.
I believe it had to do with the PANYNJ changing their bridges, tunnels, ports, and airport trail blazers from the Black on White with white arrow in black circles to colorful signs. Alpsroads has pictures featured of the old PANYNJ signs and of course the new ones are around North Jersey and NYC in many places to make the comparison, but nonetheless it seems like it was at the same time of the change of both.
Quote from: roadman65 on August 04, 2013, 11:27:32 AM
I remember those quite vividly as I lived in Northern New Jersey for over 25 years. Actually the original signing was "Newark Airport" and these did not come into play until the late 80's. At the time I thought these signs were cool and still do actually.
I believe it had to do with the PANYNJ changing their bridges, tunnels, ports, and airport trail blazers from the Black on White with white arrow in black circles to colorful signs. Alpsroads has pictures featured of the old PANYNJ signs and of course the new ones are around North Jersey and NYC in many places to make the comparison, but nonetheless it seems like it was at the same time of the change of both.
As I kid I remember the drive to the airport, and I always found the airport signage cool (especially when you get to the terminals, which GMSV doesn't show). I still consider it cool, except for the non Highway Gothic font used. I do like how the terminals are signed with regards to the "shield" used.
Quote from: kkt on August 04, 2013, 11:22:31 AM
Their airport logo looks like a psychedelic peace sign from 1968.
:rofl:
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Least for O'Hare, there is signage for the 190 airport freeway about 5 miles before either way on 294. The Kennedy (90/94) and the Jane Addams (90), tend to just have this signage above.
Midway Airport signage is less used on the Stevenson (55), but is mentioned when getting off of 294 at 55. Best signage for the airport would be the sign below for Cicero Ave (which goes right through the airport)
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Terminal A- Red
Terminal B- Blue
Terminal C- Green
When Terminal A opened up in the 70's it had matching Red carpeting inside the terminals.
I would love to see the new baggage claim area as I was reading about how the old parking garages underneath each terminal was enclosed and is now the Arrivals level while the old Arrivals level is a second Departure area/ Drop off.
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Here are two more photos of different ways of airport signing.
The top is how the OOCEA assigns the Orlando International Airport on FL 528 mileage signs and the bottom is how NJDOT signs the Mercer County Airport near Trenton, NJ on I-95 Southbound.
The main passenger terminal for Mercer County also on I-95 Southbound near Trenton.
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A Newark Airport sign without the white on brown, but the official logo.
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When the new international terminal in Atlanta opened up in the opposite side of the airport than the other terminal, and I-75 is the better way to the new terminal and I-85 is the better way to the existing (now domestic) terminal:
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Here's SFO signage on US-101 north:
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I've always liked how British Columbia signs airports:
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www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/ny_878
Portland - http://goo.gl/maps/EJuIW
Here's Sea-Tac Airport signage from both directions of I-5.
Northbound:
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Southbound:
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YHZ — Halifax on NS102 n/b
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Since about 2009 or so, SFO has some advanced signage as far north as the Central Freeway split in San Francisco:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=central+freeway,+San+Francisco,+CA&hl=en&ll=37.77051,-122.405952&spn=0.004666,0.007494&sll=37.269174,-119.306607&sspn=13.521361,30.695801&hnear=Central+Fwy,+San+Francisco,+California+94103&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.77051,-122.405952&panoid=ctR5AieranMuVzKwH0Wr8A&cbp=12,140.5,,0,-2.58
Sacramento's airport also has similar signage from far away:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=West+Sacramento&hl=en&ll=38.574785,-121.572663&spn=0.012984,0.029976&sll=37.77051,-122.405952&sspn=0.004666,0.007494&t=h&hnear=West+Sacramento,+Yolo,+California&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.574785,-121.572663&panoid=FZ4jOyfQJ8pom69C4uf9rA&cbp=12,47.54,,0,-1.22
Closer, along I-5:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Sacramento+International+Airport,+Airport+Boulevard,+Sacramento,+CA&hl=en&ll=38.671062,-121.596567&spn=0.004584,0.007494&sll=38.671692,-121.583797&sspn=0.002304,0.003747&oq=Sacramento+&t=k&hq=Sacramento+International+Airport,+Airport+Boulevard,+Sacramento,+CA&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.671085,-121.596668&panoid=OjWhI4HfXClEERtFw4fP2g&cbp=12,129,,0,0
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LAX signage in San Fernando Valley on 405 south at 101:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Interstate+405,+Sherman+Oaks,+Los+Angeles,+CA&hl=en&ll=34.165494,-118.469676&spn=0.004859,0.007494&sll=37.299729,-121.812286&sspn=0.422766,0.959244&oq=Interstate+405,+Sherman+Oaks&t=k&hnear=Interstate+405,+Los+Angeles,+California&z=18&layer=c&cbll=34.165494,-118.469676&panoid=jKR8URx9vfDLzGxr15bBsQ&cbp=12,207.55,,0,0.57
At the airport exit itself:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Century+Boulevard,+Inglewood,+CA&hl=en&ll=33.953631,-118.369499&spn=0.006888,0.014988&sll=34.165494,-118.469676&sspn=0.004884,0.007494&t=k&hnear=Century+Blvd&z=17&layer=c&cbll=33.953363,-118.369487&panoid=Mzh29f3pzBUaccl7CjYAIQ&cbp=12,187.31,,1,-5.16
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San Diego, from northbound I-5:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Diego+International+Airport,+North+Harbor+Drive,+San+Diego,+CA&hl=en&ll=32.722934,-117.162649&spn=0.003493,0.007494&sll=33.953364,-118.369489&sspn=0.006924,0.014988&oq=Lindbergh+Field&t=m&hq=San+Diego+International+Airport,+North+Harbor+Drive,+San+Diego,+CA&z=18&layer=c&cbll=32.722934,-117.162649&panoid=-oTdYOvCIc00lM12WfnaZw&cbp=12,310.73,,0,-10.67
From southbound:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=San+Diego+International+Airport,+North+Harbor+Drive,+San+Diego,+CA&hl=en&ll=32.743441,-117.184779&spn=0.00351,0.007494&sll=33.953364,-118.369489&sspn=0.006924,0.014988&oq=Lindbergh+Field&t=m&hq=San+Diego+International+Airport,+North+Harbor+Drive,+San+Diego,+CA&z=18&layer=c&cbll=32.743441,-117.184779&panoid=MfN4cemShVs8yVxImL4sCw&cbp=12,133.75,,1,-3.47
Portland's airport is signed pretty well in advance:
I-5, south of I-205 in Tualatin (northbound) (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.35636,-122.762792&spn=0.003313,0.008256&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.352771,-122.76343&fspn=0.003314,0.008256&z=18&layer=c&cbll=45.356514,-122.762727&panoid=rnfB2TmrCUe6-WyxTmxnxA&cbp=12,46.58,,0,-5.09) (this sign has since been replaced with one that simply says "Portland Airport - NEXT EXIT"
I-5 northbound at I-405 split prior to I-84, south of downtown Portland (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.496131,-122.673318&spn=0.001169,0.002064&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.495828,-122.673093&fspn=0.001174,0.002064&z=20&layer=c&cbll=45.496131,-122.673318&panoid=iIGQvbd_JXv7jMDtI2z38w&cbp=12,23.24,,0,6.55)
I-5 northbound at I-84 eastbound, atop the Marquam Bridge (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.507317,-122.669979&spn=0.002337,0.004128&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.507884,-122.669558&fspn=0.002337,0.004128&z=19&layer=c&cbll=45.507164,-122.670234&panoid=TfPhKT03KQWKD7iuuIdGcg&cbp=12,45.17,,0,-2.22)
I-5 at I-84 split, east end of the Marquam Bridge (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.511881,-122.667211&spn=0.002337,0.004128&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.512061,-122.666905&fspn=0.002336,0.004128&z=19&layer=c&cbll=45.511678,-122.667094&panoid=_5J0xffP7R72YImUM8RBCQ&cbp=12,337.15,,0,-4.44)
I-5 Northbound, at Rosa Parks Way prior to North Lombard (U.S. 30 Bypass) (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.568766,-122.678511&spn=0.013204,0.033023&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.573993,-122.677717&fspn=0.013203,0.033023&z=16&layer=c&cbll=45.56964,-122.678522&panoid=05sdIhv-JEUbpnXeXMI6lg&cbp=12,349.42,,0,-0.29)
I-5 southbound at I-205, Salmon Creek (north of Vancouver) (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.72982,-122.656453&spn=0.013166,0.033023&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.729925,-122.657955&fspn=0.013166,0.033023&z=16&layer=c&cbll=45.729976,-122.656502&panoid=cCoDqtdQK2RbjY3x7ZJSQQ&cbp=12,168.01,,0,1.35)
Washington SR 14 eastbound prior to I-205 (notice blue Airport symbol sign) (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.608885,-122.574962&spn=0.002332,0.004128&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.606134,-122.56434&fspn=0.002333,0.004128&z=19&layer=c&cbll=45.608911,-122.575086&panoid=q_NUS9UqHaTIvyLbVmwP7w&cbp=12,123.71,,0,0.94)
SR 14 eastbound transition to I-205 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.605174,-122.555433&spn=0.002333,0.004128&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.605279,-122.555105&fspn=0.002333,0.004128&z=19&layer=c&cbll=45.605019,-122.555643&panoid=UGzAfiMBDwRG9Z4bnq8jqA&cbp=12,49.66,,0,4.44)
I-205 soutbound, on Government Island (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.584848,-122.544203&spn=0.004667,0.008256&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.583842,-122.543516&fspn=0.004667,0.008256&z=18&layer=c&cbll=45.584848,-122.544203&panoid=2ehsWzhyN2leQoLmXfdhcQ&cbp=12,174.49,,0,1.11)
I-205 southbound, south end of Glenn Jackson Bridge (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.574965,-122.546022&spn=0.004668,0.008256&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.573988,-122.546863&fspn=0.004668,0.008256&z=18&layer=c&cbll=45.574965,-122.546022&panoid=puovVKElONexmVx2VXv6zA&cbp=12,211.25,,0,-2.57)
I-84 westbound, approximately 1/2 mile east of I-205 split (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cesar+Chavez+Portland+Oregon&ll=45.546838,-122.539288&spn=0.00467,0.008256&hq=Cesar+Chavez&hnear=Portland,+Multnomah,+Oregon&t=h&fll=45.542404,-122.508153&fspn=0.00467,0.008256&z=18&layer=c&cbll=45.546885,-122.539641&panoid=0v65urQ3A3597cxSY7B21A&cbp=12,276.41,,0,4.33)
(What's really bad about westbound I-84 traffic, is that upon entering Troutdale there is the Troutdale Airport, and then an Airport Way exit. While taking Airport Way will eventually get you to the airport, generally it's advisable to stay on I-84 to I-205 NB, but there are no advance signs for it...unlike the various signs on I-5 south of I-205.)
Here are two views while leaving the RDU Airport complex near Raleigh in 2010:
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Also, a similar sign or two while on the grounds of BNA, on the east side of Nashville, a week after the top two pictures:
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Quote from: KEVIN_224 on August 04, 2013, 08:29:01 PM
Here are two views while leaving the RDU Airport complex near Raleigh in 2010:
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Besides the lack of a border and the devil font (hey, at least the I-40 / I-540 shields are using Highway Gothic), the actual background color of those signs is... pretty unique. I actually like it (well, on that sign, it's the ONLY thing I like).
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on August 04, 2013, 08:29:01 PM
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We got Clearview ("Long Term Parking B") , Arial ("Economy Parking"), AND Highway Gothic (Do I have to point out the good font?) , along with lots of dancing arrows. Yuck.
SR 417 leads to both Orlando-area international airports: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.801435,-81.343031&spn=0.028919,0.056691&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.801097,-81.343207&panoid=yCMteODuz58ex_AjyvcbLA&cbp=12,205.84,,1,-1.24
Quote from: NE2 on August 04, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
SR 417 leads to both Orlando-area international airports: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.801435,-81.343031&spn=0.028919,0.056691&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.801097,-81.343207&panoid=yCMteODuz58ex_AjyvcbLA&cbp=12,205.84,,1,-1.24
Is that standard Florida DOT signage, where there is a yellow background behind a county shield?
Quote from: Zeffy on August 04, 2013, 10:10:42 PM
Is that standard Florida DOT signage, where there is a yellow background behind a county shield?
Yes, to keep the blue and green from blending together. It's standard in New Jersey too. Is it not the standard anywhere?
Quote from: NE2 on August 04, 2013, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 04, 2013, 10:10:42 PM
Is that standard Florida DOT signage, where there is a yellow background behind a county shield?
Yes, to keep the blue and green from blending together. It's standard in New Jersey too. Is it not the standard anywhere?
I've seen a few BGS / LGS where county shields are just slapped onto the sign without a background. Here's an example...
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images999/cr-j014_sb_at_ca-120.jpg)
And there's this one...
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I don't know any other examples, since the only state I've been to that extensively uses the county route shield is New Jersey (and subsequently signs them on freeway BGS).
Quote from: Zeffy on August 04, 2013, 11:17:16 AMAirport commissioned signage uses a different font (looks like Clearview).
Many airport agency-spec.'d signage typically use either an Arial/Helvetica (Massport signage at Logan Airport) or a Futura font (DOA (Division of Aviation) signage at Philadelphia International Airport).
The custom font used for signage at SFO:
https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/64359344
Similar deal at SMF:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=SMF&hl=en&ll=38.67446,-121.590955&spn=0.006031,0.008529&sll=37.615286,-122.390828&sspn=0.002175,0.002132&t=h&hq=SMF&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.67446,-121.590955&panoid=UHN-JmXBwL3n7PlBEApEYg&cbp=12,347.33,,0,-9.62
Quote from: TheStranger on August 05, 2013, 11:22:17 AM
Similar deal at SMF:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=SMF&hl=en&ll=38.67446,-121.590955&spn=0.006031,0.008529&sll=37.615286,-122.390828&sspn=0.002175,0.002132&t=h&hq=SMF&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.67446,-121.590955&panoid=UHN-JmXBwL3n7PlBEApEYg&cbp=12,347.33,,0,-9.62
For some reason, those SMF signs look really... nice.
Quote from: Zeffy on August 05, 2013, 12:40:04 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on August 05, 2013, 11:22:17 AM
Similar deal at SMF:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=SMF&hl=en&ll=38.67446,-121.590955&spn=0.006031,0.008529&sll=37.615286,-122.390828&sspn=0.002175,0.002132&t=h&hq=SMF&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.67446,-121.590955&panoid=UHN-JmXBwL3n7PlBEApEYg&cbp=12,347.33,,0,-9.62
For some reason, those SMF signs look really... nice.
That looks similar to the Futura(?) font that's used on the PHL (Philadelphia International Airport) signage
on airport property.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm5.staticflickr.com%2F4146%2F5046057743_c5866e4b81_z.jpg&hash=b0f83229712a275d20d51b479964e56b52fc53ed)
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Pictures of how the San Juan Airport in Puerto Rico is signed on area highways.
Quote from: PHLBOS on August 05, 2013, 12:44:53 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 05, 2013, 12:40:04 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on August 05, 2013, 11:22:17 AM
Similar deal at SMF:
For some reason, those SMF signs look really... nice.
That looks similar to the Futura(?) font that's used on the PHL (Philadelphia International Airport) signage on airport property.
As a graphic designer, I'm pretty sure that the SFO, SMF, and PHL airport signage examples are all different weights of Frutiger, which is used fairly commonly in airports and public transit venues worldwide. (In contrast, Futura has a much sharper and more geometric design with a single story lowercase a.)
As much as I'm a stickler for proper FHWA alphabets and correct signing practices on public roads, I can appreciate when airports and other private entities with complex property layouts develop attractive and consistent signing practices that aren't necessarily MUTCD compliant.
The logo of the plane used on the signs seems to vary from a little private jet to a Boeing 747, without much regard for which is commonly flown into/out of said airport. The generic plane looks like some sort of huge glider, or is an MD-series with tiny engines.
Sometimes the nose of the aircraft logo points in the direction of the airport, but I usually count on a directional arrow or supplemental information (Next Right, for example).
Minneapolis-St. Paul airport has two separate terminals, accessible via two different exits off I-494. Thus there are two sets of signs with the airlines they each serve, using standard highway gothic.
Terminal 1 is the main terminal, also called the Lindbergh terminal, where virtually all non-charter airlines flew out of when I lived there. It is accessed off of MN-5 (Exit 1A). Terminal 2 is the former Humphrey terminal, used for charter flights and also where the international flights landed because customs were there. The customs terminal moved to the main terminal about 15 years ago. It's accessed off the 34th Avenue exit (Exit 1B). Since then, the Humphrey terminal has become the home of a number of airlines, so you need to know what terminal you're flying out of. Note that mile 0 on the I-494/694 loop is the Minnesota River, right at the point where these signs are located. The exit just east of these signs is Exit 71.
http://goo.gl/maps/nGnNq lists some of the airlines flying out of Terminal 1 (WB I-494 west of Pilot Knob Road).
http://goo.gl/maps/qxcy5 is the second half of the flights out of Terminal 1.
http://goo.gl/maps/gMjHP lists the airlines flying out of Terminal 2.
None of these show the parking and airline terminal drop-off/pickup signs as you approach the terminals, especially as you loop through Terminal 1.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on August 05, 2013, 11:08:50 PM
Minneapolis-St. Paul airport has two separate terminals, accessible via two different exits off I-494.
*shudder*
I remember offering a cab driver a $100 tip if he could get me between terminals before a particular time.
he was doing ~95mph up the 5 freeway.
he didn't make it. neither did I. missed my flight by 20 seconds.
terminals separated by miles: probably the worst "brilliant idea in modern future new urbanism hell yeah!" ever; I tell people "yeah, it's called Minneapolis-St. Paul because they put one terminal in Minneapolis, and one in St. Paul."
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 05, 2013, 11:11:45 PMI remember offering a cab driver a $100 tip if he could get me between terminals before a particular time.
he was doing ~95mph up the 5 freeway.
he didn't make it. neither did I. missed my flight by 20 seconds.
Wasn't the Hiawatha LRT available? That is how I would attempt a terminal transfer within MSP if there was no other alternative actually available on airport property (as I believe is the case, with the exception of a courtesy shuttle which is available for the physically disabled).
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 05, 2013, 11:35:38 PM
Wasn't the Hiawatha LRT available? That is how I would attempt a terminal transfer within MSP if there was no other alternative actually available on airport property (as I believe is the case, with the exception of a courtesy shuttle which is available for the physically disabled).
I do not remember. given that I was already coming from an international flight (had to claim luggage, and check it again), I somehow calculated that a cab may be sufficiently faster.
How New Orleans Int'l Airport is signed in New Orleans/Metairie/Kenner:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans&ll=29.963012,-90.09936&spn=0.005456,0.006899&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.96311,-90.101558&panoid=Blvu8z7z2MPnsJHPnS6Lzw&cbp=12,315.45,,0,0 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=New+Orleans&ll=29.963012,-90.09936&spn=0.005456,0.006899&hnear=New+Orleans,+Orleans,+Louisiana&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.96311,-90.101558&panoid=Blvu8z7z2MPnsJHPnS6Lzw&cbp=12,315.45,,0,0)
How Baton Rouge Metro. Airport is signed in Baton Rouge:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Baton+Rouge&hl=en&ll=30.514635,-91.156654&spn=0.005426,0.006899&sll=29.96311,-90.101558&sspn=0.005493,0.006899&gl=us&hnear=Baton+Rouge,+East+Baton+Rouge,+Louisiana&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=30.514372,-91.158696&panoid=lfXoZc1G9laVAtcJ6UW0UA&cbp=12,5.02,,0,9.49 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Baton+Rouge&hl=en&ll=30.514635,-91.156654&spn=0.005426,0.006899&sll=29.96311,-90.101558&sspn=0.005493,0.006899&gl=us&hnear=Baton+Rouge,+East+Baton+Rouge,+Louisiana&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=30.514372,-91.158696&panoid=lfXoZc1G9laVAtcJ6UW0UA&cbp=12,5.02,,0,9.49)
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 05, 2013, 11:35:38 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 05, 2013, 11:11:45 PMI remember offering a cab driver a $100 tip if he could get me between terminals before a particular time.
he was doing ~95mph up the 5 freeway.
he didn't make it. neither did I. missed my flight by 20 seconds.
Wasn't the Hiawatha LRT available? That is how I would attempt a terminal transfer within MSP if there was no other alternative actually available on airport property (as I believe is the case, with the exception of a courtesy shuttle which is available for the physically disabled).
In the days before LRT, there was a shuttle bus that went between terminals. The bus did not use the public road connection, but rather wound through service roads within the airport. It was particularly useful if you were arriving on an international flight. I wouldn't have counted on it, though, if I had a short connecting time in the other terminal. Nowadays, with the LRT going under the airport, that would be my choice, but I don't know what the typical interval between trains is.
this was Sept. 2008. I have no idea if there was an LRT then.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 06, 2013, 12:07:29 PMthis was Sept. 2008. I have no idea if there was an LRT then.
Wikipedia gives the opening date as June 26, 2004. Not all of the line as it currently exists opened on that date, since there have been extensions to Target Field and Bloomington (both opened 2009), but the connection between the airport terminals was in place by 2004. In December 2010 I used the Hiawatha LRT to travel to downtown Minneapolis to see the brand-new I-35W Mississippi River bridge when I had an extended stopover at MSP (arriving from LHR, departing for ICT).
So, yes, the Hiawatha LRT would have been available, and it would have been free between the two terminals (no holdup to buy tickets). Travel distance would have been less by a factor of at least four, but vehicle speed would have been less by a factor of perhaps three (going up to four with dwell time taken into account). Metro's schedule search engine is not loading for me at the moment, so I can't comment on train frequency. (I vaguely remember 4 TPH in the middle of the evening, which was when I was riding it, but I couldn't swear to it.) The LRT stations are belowground at both airport terminals, so the time required to negotiate stairs (or elevators, with bulky luggage) would also have to be taken into account.
4 tph is about one every 15 minutes, which brings up memories of "crap, the train could be whenever - the cab is right there!"
While interesting, I think it's incomplete to omit the words "Flights" or "Terminals" from about 15 different overheads that are up to 7 miles away from the airport, especially on a principal north-south US interstate. But when has the GDOT thoroughly thought things through? I bet 1/2 the US population couldn't tell you what "Domestic" was actually referring to:
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Houston's Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) is beginning to replace overhead sign gantries along J.F.K. Boulevard. This is at the beginning of the "freeway" segment of J.F.K. at Greens Road:
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New Overhead Sign Gantries along J.F.K. Blvd (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22306412@N07/9652944573/) by FreewayDan (http://www.flickr.com/people/22306412@N07/), on Flickr
What's the difference between an international airport and an intercontinental airport?
Quote from: kkt on September 02, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
What's the difference between an international airport and an intercontinental airport?
Houston wants to make it known that their airport features much more than "two flights a day to Matamoros".
Here's how Detroit Metro Airport is signed:
http://goo.gl/maps/fQ5Av -- from I-94 west at exit 198.
http://goo.gl/maps/H4qKC -- from I-94 east at exit 198.
http://goo.gl/maps/X8eGM -- from I-275 south near exit 15.
http://goo.gl/maps/02Pm1 -- typical signage within the airport.
All signs are current as of the "image date" in each link. Also, the airport also gets mentioned in many other areas nearby, these are just snippets.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 02, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: kkt on September 02, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
What's the difference between an international airport and an intercontinental airport?
Houston wants to make it known that their airport features much more than "two flights a day to Matamoros".
If anything, the "Intercontinental" tag is like calling your airport a "Jetport"...it just sounds cool. For the most part, several smaller International Airports are really just slightly expanded versions of "Regional" airports.
A regional airport usually feeds back and forth to the closest airline hub, with some light cargo and general aviation to justify its existence. Albany, Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Georgia_Regional_Airport) has an extreme example of this type of airport; it's kind of the thing that might make a roadgeek cringe...but it sure beats trying to deal with a three-hour haul in rush hour to Atlanta.
Quote from: formulanone on September 03, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 02, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: kkt on September 02, 2013, 11:34:14 AM
What's the difference between an international airport and an intercontinental airport?
Houston wants to make it known that their airport features much more than "two flights a day to Matamoros".
If anything, the "Intercontinental" tag is like calling your airport a "Jetport"...it just sounds cool. For the most part, several smaller International Airports are really just slightly expanded versions of "Regional" airports.
A regional airport usually feeds back and forth to the closest airline hub, with some light cargo and general aviation to justify its existence. Albany, Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Georgia_Regional_Airport) has an extreme example of this type of airport; it's kind of the thing that might make a roadgeek cringe...but it sure beats trying to deal with a three-hour haul in rush hour to Atlanta.
For a long time (I don't know if this is still true), San Jose (California)'s airport had no international flights, but still called itself San Jose International. So it became known as San Jose Intergalactic.
Doesn't an International Airport mean that it is equipped for international arrivals/departures (customs/immigration or international trade possible to process onsite, not necessarily staffed 24/7), not necessarily that it actually handles such flights regularly?
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 06, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 06, 2013, 12:07:29 PMthis was Sept. 2008. I have no idea if there was an LRT then.
Wikipedia gives the opening date as June 26, 2004. Not all of the line as it currently exists opened on that date, since there have been extensions to Target Field and Bloomington (both opened 2009), but the connection between the airport terminals was in place by 2004. In December 2010 I used the Hiawatha LRT to travel to downtown Minneapolis to see the brand-new I-35W Mississippi River bridge when I had an extended stopover at MSP (arriving from LHR, departing for ICT).
So, yes, the Hiawatha LRT would have been available, and it would have been free between the two terminals (no holdup to buy tickets). Travel distance would have been less by a factor of at least four, but vehicle speed would have been less by a factor of perhaps three (going up to four with dwell time taken into account). Metro's schedule search engine is not loading for me at the moment, so I can't comment on train frequency. (I vaguely remember 4 TPH in the middle of the evening, which was when I was riding it, but I couldn't swear to it.) The LRT stations are belowground at both airport terminals, so the time required to negotiate stairs (or elevators, with bulky luggage) would also have to be taken into account.
From metrotransit.org
QuoteMilestones achieved:
• Broke ground January 17, 2001
• Completed mining of airport rail tunnels October 2002
• Opened partial service June 26, 2004
• Redesigned bus service to coordinate with rail June and December 2004
• Began full service Dec. 4, 2004, 27 days ahead of schedule
The Target Field station/ extension opened in the late fall of 2009 and the Bloomington station was a infill project. Mall Of America has always been the southern terminus of the now "Blue Line" since full service began.
A full Blue Line schedule can be found here: http://metrotransit.org/Schedules/WebSchedules.aspx?route=901
Flights to Montreal or Mexico City would be international but not intercontinental. Flights to Paris, Tokyo or Rio would be intercontinental and international.
But basically, yes, it just sounds cool.
Newark, NJ (or should I say now Newark-Liberty International) was called an international long before international flights and a customs facility entered the facility. It was given the name international when both Terminals A & B were opened in 1974 as prior to that when the original terminal that was located at the interchange of US 1 & 9 and Port Street it was just Newark Airport. The current custom facility that is there was opened in Terminal B back in the early 1990's, and the previous one opened in 1982 (around) in Terminal C.
What is interesting is that other small airports have the name international and probably do not have overseas or intercontinental flights either.
Quote from: PurdueBill on September 04, 2013, 12:39:10 AM
Doesn't an International Airport mean that it is equipped for international arrivals/departures (customs/immigration or international trade possible to process onsite, not necessarily staffed 24/7), not necessarily that it actually handles such flights regularly?
I would imagine that there would be two levels of equipment, one so much more elaborate than the other that to justify it there would need to be regular handling of such flights.
1) some guy in a uniform sits at a temporary desk, figuring out what to do with the emergency landing in Toronto of the Seattle-Boston flight, filled with passengers without passports.
2) an actual customs facility, built from the beginning with such intent.
I don't think airports get to call themselves "international" unless they have facilities available to land regularly scheduled international flights, but I don't know if there is a regulator or industry association that steps in to sanction misbehaving airports that label themselves as "international" when they don't in fact have the facilities to handle such flights.
The distinction is mostly an American one in any case--in most European countries airports that do actually handle international traffic (and have permanent facilities for immigration and customs clearance) are not called "international." The main truth-in-advertising problem on that side of the Atlantic arises from small airports far from a major city advertising themselves as an airport for that city (Frankfurt Hahn and Rome Ciampino being classic examples of this).
An explanation from an "international" airport that doesn't have any regularly scheduled international flights:
http://www.flygrb.com/about-us
Quote
For an airport, the designation international is not necessarily related to flight activity. An airport earns the title of international when U.S. Customs offices operate on the premises. Austin Straubel International Airport received this designation in 1988 when U.S. Customs opened their offices within the main terminal.
I remember hearing rumors years ago when I lived in Harrisburg that MDT would have to drop the "International" from their name if Air Canada discontinued their once-a-day puddle jumper to Toronto.
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 04, 2013, 10:54:47 AMThe distinction is mostly an American one in any case--in most European countries airports that do actually handle international traffic (and have permanent facilities for immigration and customs clearance) are not called "international."
There's not a huge number of airports that deal with domestic traffic only. Inside Schengen/Common Travel Area, yes, but not within the country. Exceptions are on islands, where the distinction matters little - at least in Western Europe where you are never that far from another country.
QuoteThe main truth-in-advertising problem on that side of the Atlantic arises from small airports far from a major city advertising themselves as an airport for that city (Frankfurt Hahn and Rome Ciampino being classic examples of this).
Brussels Charleroi was quite a good one.
London Oxford (not the fictional Abingdon plans, but the commercial services from, IIRC, RAF Brize Norton) was also a silly one as was London Manston (now Kent International).
Quote from: kkt on September 04, 2013, 12:18:16 AM
For a long time (I don't know if this is still true), San Jose (California)'s airport had no international flights, but still called itself San Jose International. So it became known as San Jose Intergalactic.
From what I understand, the San Jose airport was originally classified as a "Municipal" airport until airlines began regular flights to Mexico sometime in the 80's. When those flights began, the airport was changed to "San Jose International".
Today, two airlines fly to Mexico on a regular basis and ANA began regular flights to Tokyo, Japan earlier this year.
Back in the late '80s when RDU got its first international flight, they added this carat to the entrance sign. I drove a Hilton airport shuttle while in college, and people used to chuckle at its understated-ness.
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Denver International Airport
Advance signage on I-70 EB at I-225:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.772634,-104.830964&spn=0.004164,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.772603,-104.83066&panoid=vzIdJVAgo7FLnUo1pM5ENQ&cbp=12,98.72,,0,0.07
At the Chambers Rd exit, 1/4 mile in advance of the exit:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.771248,-104.815149&spn=0.004164,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.771231,-104.814927&panoid=gFmO8Xl01ldAXcpIyJ2T8Q&cbp=12,115.07,,0,-0.64
At the Pena Blvd exit (sign on the Chambers Rd overpass):
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.770861,-104.810611&spn=0.004164,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.77085,-104.810518&panoid=GTECrNUwhHCICuKpn3nmsA&cbp=12,88.4,,0,-0.18
The only advance sign on WB I-70 (ahead of the E-470 Tollway exit-the most direct route from points east):
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.740252,-104.705651&spn=0.004166,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.740259,-104.705982&panoid=GCcIun9WIT4AE5mpEGSPzg&cbp=12,280.71,,0,0.55
Directional sign on the offramp. A right turn to Gun Club Rd (at the light), brings one to this reassurance sign:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.741028,-104.715886&spn=0.004166,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.741193,-104.715881&panoid=ZAUROaYEwpSSMiRHiXzWSA&cbp=12,34.32,,1,8.31
Once past the next light (19th Ave), Gun Club becomes a northbound onramp for E-470.
Advanced signage on NB E-470 ahead of the cloverleaf interchange at Pena Blvd:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.82126,-104.74376&spn=0.004161,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.821445,-104.743947&panoid=SPkPOKiUVF0UNb0RxacLjA&cbp=12,340.66,,0,0.82
At the exit from NB E-470:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.825086,-104.746384&spn=0.004161,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.825086,-104.746384&panoid=fBYwmLX9PV88iScnjlGlPQ&cbp=12,339.91,,0,0
SB I-25 at E-470/Northwest Pkwy (E-470 is first access to DIA from the north):
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.989155,-104.986811&spn=0.016605,0.042272&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.988925,-104.986942&panoid=rz5lMKzJZywIb98NsCxeJA&cbp=12,211.58,,0,0.09
WB I-76 at E-470 SB:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.930768,-104.79691&spn=0.016619,0.042272&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.930709,-104.79698&panoid=ZAgFvDZacjaaS_p9Ww3ptg&cbp=12,238.57,,0,1.28
SB E-470 at Pena Blvd. The ramp becomes a C/D for the cloverleaf at Pena Blvd. The exit to the airport is the second one:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.847492,-104.747&spn=0.016639,0.042272&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=39.848028,-104.746987&panoid=WdjkeSXOjgyaDSiMLvBfwQ&cbp=12,180,,0,0
Pena Blvd is the airport access road. Just east of the E-470 interchange, it enters airport land.