Quote from: Scott5114 on August 09, 2013, 02:08:29 PMUnfortunately, lack of a regular Kansas contributor on Wikipedia means that such research is not available from there yet.
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 09, 2013, 03:18:51 PMAre there any other states for which this has been tried?
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 09, 2013, 03:18:51 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on August 09, 2013, 02:08:29 PMUnfortunately, lack of a regular Kansas contributor on Wikipedia means that such research is not available from there yet.
Are there any other states for which this has been tried?
Map edition first shown | Route | Length |
1957 | I-35, I-335, I-470, I-70 | Entire length of Kansas Turnpike plus a connecting length of untolled freeway (including MP 0-MP 127 of I-35, entire length of I-335, I-70 from East Topeka Interchange at Exit 182 to 7th Street Expressway interchange at Exit 422A) |
1957 | I-70 | Exit 353 (K-4 westbound) to Exit 357B (US 75/Gage Blvd. in Topeka) (this segment carries Kansas' claim to first Interstate segment funded under the 1956 Federal-Aid Highway Act) |
1960 | US 69 | 18th Street Expressway from I-35 to I-70 |
1960 | I-70 | Exit 422A (7th Street Expressway) to Exit 423B (James Street) (both in Kansas City) |
1960 | I-35 | Exit 183 (US 59 Ottawa) to Exit 232B (18th Street Expressway interchange) |
1960 | I-70 | Exit 341 (K-30 Maple Hill) to Exit 353 |
1960 | I-70 | Exit 275 (K-15 Abilene) to Exit 304 (Humboldt Creek Road) |
1960 | I-70 | Exit 115 (K-198 Collyer) to Exit 135 (K-147 Ogallah) (divided section appears to have continued until approximately MP 137) |
1961 | I-470 | Entire untolled length on west side of Topeka |
1962 | I-135, I-235 | I-135 from southern terminus (I-35 Exit 50, South Wichita Interchange) to Exit 1C (I-235 northbound); I-235 from southern terminus to Exit 15 (Broadway Ave.) (this entire route originally opened as I-235, the southern part later being transferred to I-135) |
1962 | US 54 | West Street intersection to Vine Street intersection (both in west Wichita, approximately one mile; includes both the Edwards Ave./Southwest Blvd. and Meridian Ave. interchanges, which were separate folded-diamond partial cloverleafs rather than, as now, a combined split-diamond interchange) |
1962 | US 54 | Vine Street intersection to Main Street intersection (both in west Wichita; includes the Seneca Street interchange and old Arkansas River flyover) |
1962 | I-70 | Exit 328 (K-99 Wamego) to Exit 341 (K-30 Maple Hill) |
1962 | I-70 | Exit 252 (K-143 Ninth Street/Salina) to Exit 275 (K-15 Abilene) |
1962 | I-70 | Exit 93 (K-23 Grainfield) to Exit 115 (K-198 Collyer) |
1962 | I-135 | Exit 30 (US 50/K-15) to Exit 34 (K-15) (this is the Newton bypass) |
1962 | I-35 | Exit 232A (US 69 18th Street Expressway) to Exit 233A (Southwest Blvd./Mission Road) (both in suburban Wyandotte County) |
1962 | I-70 | Exit 357B (US 75/Gage Blvd.) to Exit 361A (1st Ave.) (both in Topeka) |
1963 | I-70 | Exit 313 (K-177 Manhattan) to Exit 328 (K-99 Wamego) |
1965 | I-70 | Exit 199 (K-231 Dorrance) to Exit 252 (K-143 Ninth Street/Salina) |
1965 | I-70 | Exit 304 (Humboldt Creek Road) to Exit 313 (K-177 Manhattan) |
1965 | I-135 | Exit 86 (Mentor Road) to Exits 95A-B (I-70) |
1965 | I-70 | Exit 361A (1st Ave.) to Exit 366 (East Topeka Interchange) (both in Topeka) |
1965 | I-235 | Exit 15 (Broadway Ave.) to present terminus, continuing as K-254 (both in Wichita) |
1965 | I-435 | Exit 83 (I-35) to Exit 79 (Metcalf Ave.) (both in suburban Johnson County) |
1965 | I-70 | Exit 135 (K-147 Ogallah) to Exit 159 (US 183 Hays) |
1965 | I-70 | Exit 53 (K-25 Colby) to Exit 93 (K-23 Grainfield) |
1965 | I-135 | Exit 1C (I-235 northbound) to Exit 2 (Hydraulic Ave.) (both in Wichita) |
1967 | I-135 | Exit 78 (K-4 Bridgeport) to Exit 86 (Mentor Road) |
1967 | I-70 | Exit 159 (US 183 Hays) to Exit 199 (K-231 Dorrance) |
1967 | I-70 | Exit 45 (US 24 Levant) to Exit 53 (K-25 Colby) |
1967 | I-135 | Exit 2 (Hydraulic Ave.) to Exit 3B (Pawnee Ave.) (both in Wichita) |
1967 | K-254 | Present western terminus (at I-135/I-235) to 45th Street North/Hillside (both in Sedgwick County) |
1967 | I-35 | Exit 127 (US 50/KTA Emporia Interchange) to Exit 133 (US 50 Emporia) (this is the I-35 northern bypass of Emporia) |
1969 | I-435 | Exit 79 (Metcalf Ave.) to Exit 75B (State Line Rd.) at Missouri state line |
1969 | I-70 | Exit 19 (US 24 Goodland) to Exit 45 (US 24 Levant) |
1969 | I-135 | Exit 58 (K-61 McPherson) to Exit 78 (K-4 Bridgeport) |
1969 | I-35 | Exit 233A (Southwest Blvd./Mission Road) to Exit 234 (US 169 7th Street Trafficway/Rainbow Blvd.) (both in suburban Wyandotte County) |
1969 | US 54 | K-251 exit (Cheney Reservoir) to current end of freeway at 263rd Street West (all in rural Sedgwick County; this includes bypasses of Garden Plain and Cheney; approximately 8 miles) |
1970 | I-70 | Colorado state line to Exit 19 (US 24 Goodland) |
1971 | US 69 | Bucyrus exit (223rd Street) to (probably) 127th Street (southern Johnson and northern Miami Counties) |
1971 | I-135 | Exit 9 (21st Street in Wichita) to Exit 30 (K-15/US 50 south of Newton) |
1971 | US 81 | I-135 Exits 95A-B (I-70) to K-93 intersection near Minneapolis (approximately 16 miles in Saline and Ottawa Counties) |
1971 | I-35 | Exit 234 (US 169 7th Street Trafficway/Rainbow Blvd.) to Missouri state line |
1972 | I-135 | Exit 34 (K-15 Newton) to Exit 58 (K-61 McPherson) |
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2013, 06:02:08 AMDo you happen to know who that is? Having talked with him, I'd be surprised if he's missing anything.Quote from: J N Winkler on August 09, 2013, 03:18:51 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on August 09, 2013, 02:08:29 PMUnfortunately, lack of a regular Kansas contributor on Wikipedia means that such research is not available from there yet.
Are there any other states for which this has been tried?
The most extensively researched state on Wikipedia is, far and away, Michigan, thanks to an editor who goes under the username Imzadi1979 (he contributes to this forum under the username "bulldog1979"). I don't know that all of the freeways have been researched by him, but a good deal of them have been, especially outside of metro Detroit. I would say, ballpark, that if someone were to attempt a comparable map for Michigan, they could probably get at least 75% of their data from Wikipedia.
Quote from: Steve on August 14, 2013, 11:08:29 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2013, 06:02:08 AMDo you happen to know who that is? Having talked with him, I'd be surprised if he's missing anything.Quote from: J N Winkler on August 09, 2013, 03:18:51 PMQuote from: Scott5114 on August 09, 2013, 02:08:29 PMUnfortunately, lack of a regular Kansas contributor on Wikipedia means that such research is not available from there yet.
Are there any other states for which this has been tried?
The most extensively researched state on Wikipedia is, far and away, Michigan, thanks to an editor who goes under the username Imzadi1979 (he contributes to this forum under the username "bulldog1979"). I don't know that all of the freeways have been researched by him, but a good deal of them have been, especially outside of metro Detroit. I would say, ballpark, that if someone were to attempt a comparable map for Michigan, they could probably get at least 75% of their data from Wikipedia.
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 19, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
What has not been mentioned before, however, is that as part of this arrangement, Kansas undertook not to build I-35 in the approximately 50 miles between the east end of the Emporia bypass and US 59 south of Ottawa until traffic studies satisfied the BPR that this corridor justified an Interstate freeway. I don't know when this requirement was considered to be met or what was ultimately done to satisfy it, but the state maps I have examined so far show no evidence of I-35 completion in this corridor as of 1972. Presumably, if BPR (or its successor, FHWA) had instead decided to cancel this I-35 mileage--which I think would have been politically much more difficult than is suggested by its provisional status--the Emporia bypass and the portion of I-35 between Kansas City and Ottawa would have become three-digit I-35 spurs (I-535 and I-735, anyone?).
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 14, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
Map edition first shown Route Length 1957 I-70 Exit 353 (K-4 westbound) to Exit 357B (US 75/Gage Blvd. in Topeka) (this segment carries Kansas' claim to first Interstate segment funded under the 1956 Federal-Aid Highway Act)
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 19, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
What has not been mentioned before, however, is that as part of this arrangement, Kansas undertook not to build I-35 in the approximately 50 miles between the east end of the Emporia bypass and US 59 south of Ottawa until traffic studies satisfied the BPR that this corridor justified an Interstate freeway.
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 23, 2013, 01:56:22 AM
Where exactly in the state archives did you find reference to the 1963 attempt to kill untolled I-35?
Date Opened | Source | Route | Length |
10/25/56 | Newspaper | I-35, I-335, I-470, I-70 | Entire length of Kansas Turnpike (including MP 0-MP 127 of I-35, entire length of I-335, I-70 from East Topeka Interchange at Exit 182 to 18th Street Expressway interchange at Exit 420A-B) |
11/10/56 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 342 (Eskridge/Keene Road, near Maple Hill) to Exit 350 (Valencia Road). 2 lanes out of 4. Kansas's claim to "First section of interstate completed." |
1957 | Map | I-70 | Exit 420 (End of Turnpike at 18th) to Exit 422 (7th Street Trafficway) |
1957 | Map | I-70 | Exit 353 (Auburn Road/K-4) to Exit 357B (US 75/Gage Blvd. in Topeka) |
12/18/58 | Newspaper | I-35 | Exit 182 (US 50B Ottawa) to Exit 198 (K-33 Wellsville) |
1960 | Map | US 69 | 18th Street Expressway from I-35 to I-70 |
1960 | Map | I-70 | Exit 422A (7th Street Expressway) to Exit 423B (James Street) (both in Kansas City) |
1960 | Map | I-35 | Exit 198 (K-33 Wellsville) to Exit 232B (18th Street Expressway interchange) |
1960 | Map | I-70 | Exit 341 (K-30 Maple Hill) to Exit 342 (Eskridge/Keene Road) |
1960 | Map | I-70 | Exit 350 (Valencia Road) to Exit 353 (Auburn Road/K-4) |
1960 | Map | I-70 | Exit 275 (K-15 Abilene) to Exit 304 (Humboldt Creek Road) |
1960 | Map | I-70 | Exit 115 (K-198 Collyer) to Exit 135 (K-147 Ogallah) (divided section appears to have continued until approximately MP 137) |
1961 | Map | I-470 | Entire untolled length on west side of Topeka |
1962 | Map | I-135, I-235 | I-135 from southern terminus (I-35 Exit 50, South Wichita Interchange) to Exit 1C (I-235 northbound); I-235 from southern terminus to Exit 15 (Broadway Ave.) (this entire route originally opened as I-235, the southern part later being transferred to I-135) |
1962 | Map | US 54 | West Street intersection to Vine Street intersection (both in west Wichita, approximately one mile; includes both the Edwards Ave./Southwest Blvd. and Meridian Ave. interchanges, which were separate folded-diamond partial cloverleafs rather than, as now, a combined split-diamond interchange) |
1962 | Map | US 54 | Vine Street intersection to Main Street intersection (both in west Wichita; includes the Seneca Street interchange and old Arkansas River flyover) |
1962 | Map | I-70 | Exit 328 (K-99 Wamego) to Exit 341 (K-30 Maple Hill) |
1962 | Map | I-70 | Exit 252 (K-143 Ninth Street/Salina) to Exit 275 (K-15 Abilene) |
1962 | Map | I-70 | Exit 93 (K-23 Grainfield) to Exit 115 (K-198 Collyer) |
1962 | Map | I-135 | Exit 30 (US 50/K-15) to Exit 34 (K-15) (this is the Newton bypass) |
1962 | Map | I-35 | Exit 232A (US 69 18th Street Expressway) to Exit 233A (Southwest Blvd./Mission Road) (both in suburban Wyandotte County) |
1962 | Map | I-70 | Exit 357B (US 75/Gage Blvd.) to Exit 361A (1st Ave.) (both in Topeka) |
1963 | Map | I-70 | Exit 313 (K-177 Manhattan) to Exit 328 (K-99 Wamego) |
11/24/64 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 199 (K-231 Dorrance) to Exit 252 (K-143 Ninth Street/Salina) |
12/02/64 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 361A (1st Ave.) to Exit 362B (8th Street) (both in Topeka) |
12/24/64 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 304 (Humboldt Creek Road) to Exit 313 (K-177 Manhattan) |
1965 | Map | I-135 | Exit 86 (Mentor Road) to Exits 95A-B (I-70) |
06/16/65 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 362B (8th Ave.) to Exit 366 (East Topeka Interchange) (both in Topeka) |
1965 | Map | I-235 | Exit 15 (Broadway Ave.) to present terminus, continuing as K-254 (both in Wichita) |
1965 | Map | I-435 | Exit 83 (I-35) to Exit 79 (Metcalf Ave.) (both in suburban Johnson County) |
1965 | Map | I-70 | Exit 135 (K-147 Ogallah) to Exit 159 (US 183 Hays) [Exit 157?] |
1965 | Map | I-135 | Exit 1C (I-235 northbound) to Exit 2 (Hydraulic Ave.) (both in Wichita) |
08/19/65 | Newspaper | K-254 | Present western terminus (at I-135/I-235) to 45th Street North/Hillside (both in Sedgwick County) |
12/17/65 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 53 (K-25 Colby) to Exit 93 (K-23 Grainfield) |
11/17/66 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 159 (US 183 Hays) to Exit 199 (K-231 Dorrance) |
1967 | Map | I-135 | Exit 78 (K-4 Bridgeport) to Exit 86 (Mentor Road) |
1967 | Map | I-70 | Exit 45 (US 24 Levant) to Exit 53 (K-25 Colby) |
1967 | Map | I-35 | Exit 127 (US 50/KTA Emporia Interchange) to Exit 133 (US 50 Emporia) (this is the I-35 northern bypass of Emporia) |
08/07/68 | Newspaper | I-135 | Exit 2 (Hydraulic Ave.) to Exit 3B (Pawnee Ave.) (both in Wichita) |
1969 | Map | I-435 | Exit 79 (Metcalf Ave.) to Exit 75B (State Line Rd.) at Missouri state line |
1969 | Map | I-70 | Exit 19 (US 24 Goodland) to Exit 45 (US 24 Levant) |
07/03/69 | Newspaper | I-135 | Exit 58 (K-61 McPherson) to Exit 78 (K-4 Bridgeport) [Includes new K-61 south of McPherson] |
1969 | Map | I-35 | Exit 233A (Southwest Blvd./Mission Road) to Exit 234 (US 169 7th Street Trafficway/Rainbow Blvd.) (both in suburban Wyandotte County) |
1969 | Map | US 54 | K-251 exit (Cheney Reservoir) to current end of freeway at 263rd Street West (all in rural Sedgwick County; this includes bypasses of Garden Plain and Cheney; approximately 8 miles) |
06/18/70 | Newspaper | I-70 | Colorado state line to Exit 19 (US 24 Goodland) |
12/07/70 | Newspaper | I-635 | Exit 5 (State Ave.) to Exit 7 (Leavenworth Rd.) |
1971 | Map | US 69 | Bucyrus exit (223rd Street) to (probably) 127th Street (southern Johnson and northern Miami Counties) |
07/02/71 | Newspaper | I-135 | Exit 11 A-B (I-235/K-254) to Exit 30 (K-15/US 50 south of Newton) |
07/28/71 | Newspaper | US 81 | I-135 Exits 95A-B (I-70) to K-93 intersection near Minneapolis (approximately 16 miles in Saline and Ottawa Counties) |
07/30/71 | Newspaper | I-135 | Exit 9 (21st Street in Wichita) to Exit 11 A-B (I-235/K-254) |
1971 | Map | I-35 | Exit 234 (US 169 7th Street Trafficway/Rainbow Blvd.) to Missouri state line |
06/02/72 | Newspaper | I-70 | Exit 157 (US 183 Bypass) to Exit 159 (US 183) [?] |
1972 | Map | I-135 | Exit 34 (K-15 Newton) to Exit 58 (K-61 McPherson) |
1973 | Map | I-635 | Exit 1B (Meriam Dr.) to Exit 2A (Metropolitan Ave) |
11/20/73 | Newspaper | I-35 | MM 143 (temporary tie-in to old US 50) to Exit 182 (US 50B, Ottawa) |
1975 | Map | I-635 | Exit 2A (Metropolitan Ave.) to Exit 3 (Kansas Ave.) |
1975 | Map | I-635 | Exit 7 (Leavenworth Rd.) to Missouri River |
12/01/76 | Newspaper | I-635 | Exit 3 (Kansas Ave.) to Exit 5 (State Ave.) [final section of I-635] |
1977 | Map | I-35 | Exit 133 (US 50, Emporia) to MM 143 (grade seperation old US 50) |
12/20/79 | Newspaper | I-135 | Exit 3B (Pawnee) to Exit 9 (21st Strreet) [final section of I-135] |
1981 | Map | K-5 | Spur from I-635 to the Fairfax district |
1981 | Map | I-435 | Exit 5 (Midland Dr.) to Exit 9 (K-32) |
1984 | Map | I-435 | Exit 83 (I-35) to Exit 1A (Lackman Rd.) |
1984 | Map | I-435 | Exit 3 (87th Street Parkway) to Exit 5 (Midland Dr.) |
1984 | Map | I-435 | Exit 9 (K-32) to Exit 11 (Kansas Ave.) |
1986 | Map | I-435 | Exit 11 (Kansas Ave.) to Exit 15 A-B (Leavenworth Rd) |
1987 | Map | I-435 | Exit 15 A-B (Leavenworth Rd.) to Missouri River (final section of I-435) |
1991 | Map | I-670 | I-70 to Exit 1B (entire length of 670 in Kansas) |
QuoteThe Kansas estimate includes costs of 61.9 million dollars for a public highway roughly parallel to the Kansas Turnpike for a distance of about 108 miles. The estimate includes also a new route with a cost of 60.4 million dollars that was approved by the Bureau as part of the original 40,000-mile authorization for interstate highways, although this route was designated subsequent to July 1, 1956, the base date for preparation of the reported estimate.
On February 17, 1955, the Bureau approved the location of an interstate route that generally paralleled the Kansas Turnpike, between Wichita and Kansas City, for a distance of about 220 miles. Subsequent to that date the Bureau established the general policy that free roads will not be approved as locations of interstate routes where satisfactory toll roads are available in the same general traffic corridor. In October 1956, the state was requested to revise the location of the parallel interstate highway and include the entire length of the Kansas Turnpike as the interstate route location.
The state, in reply to the Bureau's request, did not agree that any part of the turnpike should be incorporated in the system in lieu of the then proposed route location on the grounds that (1) the Kansas Turnpike is not actually in the same traffic corridor as the proposed free road, (2) the proposed location of the interstate route would serve numerous towns and a population of nearly one-half million, and (3) the turnpike will not adequately serve local needs as intended by section 116(b) of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. In November 1956 a compromise agremeent was reached between the state and the Bureau, as follows:
1. A part of the Kansas Turnpike, between Wichita and Emporia, was designated as part of the Federal-aid Interstate System in lieu of 112 miles of the previously designated free road in this same general area. The remaining 108-mile section of the designated interstate route, which the Bureau also believed to be roughly parallel to the turnpike between Emporia and Kansas City, was retained as the Interstate System designation. The estimated cost of 61.9 million dollars to construct this parallel public highway was included in the Kansas estimate. The state will delay construction on about a 50-mile portion of the parallel route between Emporia and Ottawa, until additional traffic studies and analyses are made to determine the effect of this section on traffic using the Kansas Turnpike.
2. The state was allocated an additional interstate route of 103.3 miles in a different area, between Wichita and a connection with an interstate route at Salina. The cost of constructing this route, estimated at 60.4 million dollars, is included in the Kansas estimate although the route was designated subsequent to the base date for preparation of the reported estimate. This route was designated as part of the original 40,000-mile authorization although the state had initially requested that the route be considered as part of the additional 1,000 miles to be added to the Interstate System under the provisions of section 108(1) of the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. Under this section the cost of completing any mileage designated from the 1,000 miles is specifically to be excluded from the estimate.
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 23, 2013, 11:34:32 AMGoogle News' archive seems to include the Wichita Eagle