From Oklahoma Turnpike Authority's Facebook page:
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A lot of questions concerning the new purple Pikepass signs on the Kilpatrick Turnpike.
Federal Standards, Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD), require the use of purple sheeting on signs denoting lanes dedicated to electronic toll collection. The requirement is being phased in as new signs are installed or old signs are replaced.
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I always thought that these would have more impact if the whole sign were purple.
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 27, 2013, 03:00:12 AM
I always thought that these would have more impact if the whole sign were purple.
You have to assume OTA is being "thrifty" and using an overlay rather than a whole new sign.
rte66man
Illinois has a few of those - specifically for the WB I-88 Eola Road exit.
Recently, they changed a large overhead I-PASS sign on I-88 EB past Highland Ave to have a purple tab across the top, with "ELECTRONIC TOLL COLLECTION" in black on white on top of the purple. Apparently it's that "no Clearview in negative contrast" rule at play. Google Maps doesn't have a shot of it yet.
Quote from: Stratuscaster on August 27, 2013, 10:53:36 PM
Illinois has a few of those - specifically for the WB I-88 Eola Road exit.
Recently, they changed a large overhead I-PASS sign on I-88 EB past Highland Ave to have a purple tab across the top, with "ELECTRONIC TOLL COLLECTION" in black on white on top of the purple. Apparently it's that "no Clearview in negative contrast" rule at play. Google Maps doesn't have a shot of it yet.
But I do.
Here's the East-West Tollway (I-88) at Eola Road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_1269.jpg&hash=3a53f29377a93860a31427f7a8f42c9e92c7f299) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_1269.jpg.html)
Tri-State Tollway (I-294) at the Cermak Road Toll Plaza.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2777.jpg&hash=3da78636eb0f3bf1c3684069333f37f86e11e641) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2777.jpg.html)
Northwest Tollway (I-90) at the River Road Toll Plaza.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3386_zps975c65cb.jpg&hash=4bc101357957fe1736600ece89163110889d6a26) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3386_zps975c65cb.jpg.html)
Oh yes, highlight the entire capitalized sentence in white, on a purple background. That doesn't look gaudy at all.
I believe that's to give it regulatory weight, which I think is fairly unnecessary.
There are now purple signs at the western Creek Turnpike toll plaza. The other two haven't been changed over yet.
I wonder if we will see these purple monstrosities on the KTA anytime soon...
ICTRds
what the FUCK is up with the "italic Clearview" in the PikePass logo on the first photo.
That's not Clearview. I don't know what font it is, but that is pretty much a standard Pikepass logo.
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 25, 2013, 04:26:53 PM
That's not Clearview. I don't know what font it is, but that is pretty much a standard Pikepass logo.
shrug, Clearveticverstesk.
you know I don't pay too close attention to the ugly fonts. I can list all the changes between standard FHWA Series B and Ohio's implementation fairly quickly, but I couldn't tell ya the difference between Poopleg Extra Meaty and Vertiginous CondensedBold.
Yeah, the Pike Pass logo on that overhead sign is not Clearview (or Helvetica for that matter).
OTOH, it doesn't look like a proper version of the Pike Pass logo either, but rather a very bad re-creation of it by the sign contractor. The counters (or holes) on the "P" characters are wrong. The "S" characters look a little heavy. I suspect the designer involved with making the sign applied a quick auto-trace on some low resolution pixel-based artwork of the Pike Pass logo and wound up with something pretty bad when blown up to full size.
FYI: here's a comparison between a legit copy of the Pike Pass logo and some Clearview type sheared and tweaked to look as much like the Pike Pass logo as possible. Clearview Highway 3B was used in the example below:
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I'm not sure what typeface was used as the source for the OTA's Pike Pass word mark. It looks a little like a modified version of Futura Bold Condensed slanted into an italic style. I don't particularly like the results. The loop on the "P" is strange. There's a few other things about it I don't like.