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Title: AM Radio
Post by: cpzilliacus on September 10, 2013, 09:07:50 PM
N.Y. Times: A Quest to Save AM Before It's Lost in the Static (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/us/a-quest-to-save-am-radio-before-its-lost-in-the-static.html)

QuoteThe digital age is killing AM radio, an American institution that brought the nation fireside chats, Casey Kasem's Top 40 and scratchy broadcasts of the World Series. Long surpassed by FM and more recently cast aside by satellite radio and Pandora, AM is now under siege from a new threat: rising interference from smartphones and consumer electronics that reduce many AM stations to little more than static. Its audience has sunk to historical lows.

QuoteBut at least one man in Washington is tuning in.

QuoteAjit Pai, the lone Republican on the Federal Communications Commission, is on a personal if quixotic quest to save AM. After a little more than a year in the job, he is urging the F.C.C. to undertake an overhaul of AM radio, which he calls "the audible core of our national culture."  He sees AM – largely the realm of local news, sports, conservative talk and religious broadcasters – as vital in emergencies and in rural areas.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 10, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quotelocal news, sports, conservative talk and religious broadcasters

quite possibly my four least favorite things to listen to.  throw in modern country music, commercials, and station identification and we've got the seven plagues.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: thenetwork on September 10, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 10, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quotelocal news, sports, conservative talk and religious broadcasters

quite possibly my four least favorite things to listen to.  throw in modern country music, commercials, and station identification and we've got the seven plagues.

In the Colorado/4-Corners area, you can throw in many many Spanish stations, including the 100,000+ watt blowtorches from South of the Border as well.  There is one AM in particular that comes in at night from Arizona (?), 660 AM on the dial.  The station is predominantly country, but every 3rd song or so is Native-American music/chants.  Most of the commercials are in English, yet most of the announcing is done in native tongue (not sure what tribe, though).
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 10, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
I generally don't mind Mexican or Mexican-American music.  I don't seek it out, but it isn't an instant channel-switcher like "you're listening to KPOO, brought to you by Carls Jr, and that one song about the tractor being sexy.  remember, Jesus loves you, but wishes you'd stop fucking other dudes.  have you looked into tractors?"
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on September 11, 2013, 09:29:21 AM
Montreal has a continuous traffic and weather channel on 730 AM, which I tune into a lot when I'm driving near or in the city (or other often-congested areas in Québec). And unlike what is usually found in the U.S., it's not an obsolete pre-recorded message looping forever but live hosts that continuously look at cameras, telemetric data and take in tip calls.

Hockey used to be on that channel until they moved it to 98.5 FM.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: FightingIrish on September 11, 2013, 10:19:47 AM
The AM band really sucks nowadays. Yeah, it's mostly sports, religion and right-wing propaganda. No wonder it's dying.

When I was a kid, listening to AM at night was a blast, with great music stations like WLS, CKLW, WABC and others on the dial with local personalities and most importantly, a pulse. Now, every station on the dial at night is playing the same syndicated talk shows, either flamethrower GOP agitprop or UFO talk. The only signs of locality tend to be baseball games, but many of those are moving to FM signals. There aren't many distant AM stations that sound unique nowadays. The only ones I can really think of are WSM, a CBC station out of Winnepeg (?) and a rather quirky oldies station out of Toronto. Plus, there are the all-news stations like WBBM in Chicago and a few talk stations that are live and local, like WGN and WCCO. Other than that, they all sound the same.

And perhaps I'm a bit old school, but a lot of 50s-60s oldies (and a few 70s) sound better on AM radio. Berry Gordie used to have the Motown output mixed to sound best on AM.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 11, 2013, 11:19:57 AM
As a broadcast engineer for 40+ years, Commissioner Pai is to be applauded for taking an interest in this.  But he's swimming upstream and fast approaching the dam.

The biggest problem AM has now is the FCC's lack of enforcement of Part 15 regulations, which refer to electronic devices that can emit radio waves and interfere with radio reception.  Often you'll see a sticker or an imprint on a consumer electronic device saying that it's "compliant" with Part 15, but these days manufacturers appear to be either not bothering to test the equipment or just attaching the sticker without testing.  Either way noise levels from computers, lights, medical machinery, LED traffic signals, etc., are increasing, and as a result AM reception isn't nearly as clear as it used to be.  An AM signal transmitted at a certain power level now covers roughly 33% less area than it would have, say, 50 years ago, just because of all the noise.

Aside from its technical limitations, those who are programming AM stations appear to have given up trying to program something which will compel listenership.  The 3,497th iteration of "Obama is ruining this country" gets a little bit old after a while.  AM's audience is now age 55 to death, not a desirable demographic for advertisers because older people are much more difficult to persuade via advertising.  Because radio is a business, the lack of advertising on AM stations is a significant factor in its eventual demise, if nothing is done.

Some say the answer is to convert AM radio to digital broadcasting.  This brings along its own set of problems.  The FCC, in a complete abdication of its responsibilities to the public, has approved a system of digital broadcasting which is completely in the hands of a single corporation, which receives hefty continuing payments if you use their system (and if you want to be broadcasting in digital, you have no choice).  That system generates its own noise, on top of all the other noise sources on the AM band, and is prone to drop-outs when other noise sources, such as lightning, show up.

I'm not ready to say that AM is dead just yet (many of the top-10 stations in the US are AM), but Commissioner Pai's efforts are probably in vain.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Henry on September 11, 2013, 11:50:19 AM
I've read that Mr. Pai also wants the AM stations to adopt the same HD Radio technology that most FM stations have, even though this has already been achieved through HD2 and HD3 substations of the FM stations. Also, music is not the only thing that has jumped to the FM band, as sports and talk have proven over the last few years.

QuoteNearly all English-language AM stations have given up playing music, and even a third of the 30 Major League Baseball teams now broadcast on FM. AM, however, remains the realm of conservative talk radio, including roughly 80 percent of the 600 radio stations that carry Rush Limbaugh. Talk radio has helped keep AM alive.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 11, 2013, 03:41:48 PM
Not likely to happen since we are in the advent of XM-Sirius Satellite Radio.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Scott5114 on September 11, 2013, 10:18:02 PM
Is there really a need for AM to exist anymore? Radio as a whole has been contracting for a long time due to the introduction of other mediums.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Crazy Volvo Guy on September 11, 2013, 10:38:06 PM
As a broadcast medium?  Probably not.  As a two-way radio medium?  Yes, absolutely.  I was just yakkin' on 27MHz AM earlier today, as I do most days.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: NJRoadfan on September 11, 2013, 10:50:16 PM
Sad because C-QUAM AM Stereo broadcasts with the right processing and a decent wideband tuner sound fantastic. A few air checks:




The last time the FCC put any effort into AM was in the early 90s when they finally made C-QUAM the required AM stereo broadcasting standard. The industry also released the AMAX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMAX) guidelines for tuners. I have one of those tuners (Denon TU-680NAB) but sadly no local AM Stereo stations to listen to.

Way better than the IBOC crap they are (were?) pushing. Its pretty much impossible to get a lock on an IBOC broadcast on clear channel AM stations here in the NYC area. Plus the sideband interference kills DXing.

Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 11, 2013, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: Henry on September 11, 2013, 11:50:19 AM
I've read that Mr. Pai also wants the AM stations to adopt the same HD Radio technology that most FM stations have, even though this has already been achieved through HD2 and HD3 substations of the FM stations.

Thus my reference to "digital."  That's what HD Radio is.

QuoteAM, however, remains the realm of conservative talk radio, including roughly 80 percent of the 600 radio stations that carry Rush Limbaugh. Talk radio has helped keep AM alive.

And who's listening to Rush?  The 55-to-death demo, almost all men.  He has almost no measurable audience in the most desirable 25-to-54 women demo.  As Rush's audience starts to age out, his numbers, already shrinking in some markets, will tumble.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 12, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
what talk radio do women aged 25-54 listen to?  NPR?

whenever I've been in the car with a woman driver, it's been very infrequently NPR, and about 95% of the time some kind of music.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Big John on September 12, 2013, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 12, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
what talk radio do women aged 25-54 listen to?  NPR?

whenever I've been in the car with a woman driver, it's been very infrequently NPR, and about 95% of the time some kind of music.
That is why there are very few talk radio programs geared towards women.  The money is going to the music stations they listen to.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
All of which begs the question, why has liberal talk radio always crashed and burned spectacularly, while conservative talk radio has done quite well?

I have my theories, but would be interested to hear others' thoughts.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 12, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
All of which begs the question, why has liberal talk radio always crashed and burned spectacularly, while conservative talk radio has done quite well?


extreme conservatives are authoritarian.  they feel united listening to a mouthpiece who riles them up with propaganda.

extreme liberals are anarchist.  they feel rebellious doing their own funky shit in small groups.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 12, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
All of which begs the question, why has liberal talk radio always crashed and burned spectacularly, while conservative talk radio has done quite well?

I have my theories, but would be interested to hear others' thoughts.

There are two reasons:

1) Liberal talkers did not do entertainment, they did politics, and listeners don't like being lectured to.  Conservatives learned early on that in order to grab audience and keep them, they had to be entertaining.  Sad to say, Rush et al. have abandoned that approach, and their audience numbers are starting to suffer for it.

2) Liberal talkers, in most markets, had to settle for lower-powered signals.  The 50kW "blowtorch" signals had been taken up by conservative talkers before the liberals came along.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 12, 2013, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on September 12, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
All of which begs the question, why has liberal talk radio always crashed and burned spectacularly, while conservative talk radio has done quite well?

I have my theories, but would be interested to hear others' thoughts.

There are two reasons:

1) Liberal talkers did not do entertainment, they did politics, and listeners don't like being lectured to.  Conservatives learned early on that in order to grab audience and keep them, they had to be entertaining.  Sad to say, Rush et al. have abandoned that approach, and their audience numbers are starting to suffer for it.

2) Liberal talkers, in most markets, had to settle for lower-powered signals.  The 50kW "blowtorch" signals had been taken up by conservative talkers before the liberals came along.

At least the low numbers to me convince me that they need to shut the hell up and move on to podcasting. This kind of shit has become a dying breed since the 90's. It used to be less news, less talk in that case, and more music. Not this time. Liberal politicians have since convinced themselves that if they can bloat themselves up in front of their so-called audience, they get more popularity. "Hey! I'm Glenn Beck! Listen to me! Listen to my show!" Like, uh huh. Like, yeah? Haven't we heard of this bullshit before? Obviously. That's all AM is ever good for nowadays. The FCC may as well tear down the AM transmitters since Sirius and XM have moved into satellite radio and these morons seem more keen to this field of radio than the AM stuff. Don't be surprised to see AM go bye-bye real soon. FM is pretty much all we got in this radio business.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 12, 2013, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on September 12, 2013, 09:48:29 PM
At least the low numbers to me convince me that they need to shut the hell up and move on to podcasting. This kind of shit has become a dying breed since the 90's. It used to be less news, less talk in that case, and more music. Not this time. Liberal politicians have since convinced themselves that if they can bloat themselves up in front of their so-called audience, they get more popularity. "Hey! I'm Glenn Beck! Listen to me! Listen to my show!" Like, uh huh. Like, yeah? Haven't we heard of this bullshit before? Obviously. That's all AM is ever good for nowadays. The FCC may as well tear down the AM transmitters since Sirius and XM have moved into satellite radio and these morons seem more keen to this field of radio than the AM stuff. Don't be surprised to see AM go bye-bye real soon. FM is pretty much all we got in this radio business.

what's the quote from that judge in the Adam Sandler movie which goes something like "I feel stupider for having read all that."
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: brad2971 on September 12, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on September 11, 2013, 11:19:57 AM
As a broadcast engineer for 40+ years, Commissioner Pai is to be applauded for taking an interest in this.  But he's swimming upstream and fast approaching the dam.

The biggest problem AM has now is the FCC's lack of enforcement of Part 15 regulations, which refer to electronic devices that can emit radio waves and interfere with radio reception.  Often you'll see a sticker or an imprint on a consumer electronic device saying that it's "compliant" with Part 15, but these days manufacturers appear to be either not bothering to test the equipment or just attaching the sticker without testing.  Either way noise levels from computers, lights, medical machinery, LED traffic signals, etc., are increasing, and as a result AM reception isn't nearly as clear as it used to be.  An AM signal transmitted at a certain power level now covers roughly 33% less area than it would have, say, 50 years ago, just because of all the noise.

Aside from its technical limitations, those who are programming AM stations appear to have given up trying to program something which will compel listenership.  The 3,497th iteration of "Obama is ruining this country" gets a little bit old after a while.  AM's audience is now age 55 to death, not a desirable demographic for advertisers because older people are much more difficult to persuade via advertising.  Because radio is a business, the lack of advertising on AM stations is a significant factor in its eventual demise, if nothing is done.

Some say the answer is to convert AM radio to digital broadcasting.  This brings along its own set of problems.  The FCC, in a complete abdication of its responsibilities to the public, has approved a system of digital broadcasting which is completely in the hands of a single corporation, which receives hefty continuing payments if you use their system (and if you want to be broadcasting in digital, you have no choice).  That system generates its own noise, on top of all the other noise sources on the AM band, and is prone to drop-outs when other noise sources, such as lightning, show up.

I'm not ready to say that AM is dead just yet (many of the top-10 stations in the US are AM), but Commissioner Pai's efforts are probably in vain.

Those 55-death people advertisers so disparage are very much a low-cost audience. Pure profit for Rush Limbaugh, and he doesn't have to do much to get that old fuddy-duddy to keep the dial locked in. Though one gets the impression if non-ClearChannel stations start coming to the conclusion that they can keep that elderly audience entertained at a fraction of the cost Limbaugh charges for his show, Limbaugh would be heading to an early retirement.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: brad2971 on September 12, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 12, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
All of which begs the question, why has liberal talk radio always crashed and burned spectacularly, while conservative talk radio has done quite well?


extreme conservatives are authoritarian.  they feel united listening to a mouthpiece who riles them up with propaganda.

extreme liberals are anarchist.  they feel rebellious doing their own funky shit in small groups.

And both are quite fine with the idea of the rest of America turning their noses at them. One of the nastier scourges of the last 20 or so years has been the "profitability" of Politics as Entertainment. Rush Limbaugh was the godfather to all of them, from Keith Olbermann to Sarah Palin to Rachel Maddow. And frankly, Politics as Entertainment is about 4-5 years away from its economic grave, and it'll likely take AM radio with it.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 12, 2013, 10:54:05 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on September 12, 2013, 09:48:29 PMThe FCC may as well tear down the AM transmitters since Sirius and XM have moved into satellite radio and these morons seem more keen to this field of radio than the AM stuff. Don't be surprised to see AM go bye-bye real soon. FM is pretty much all we got in this radio business.

SiriusXM is not going to supplant AM or FM radio anytime soon, probably never.  It's a niche product, and most of the radio audience is not going to pay for something they've always had for free (or so their reasoning goes), regardless of the multitude of formats on satellite that AM and FM can't provide.  They've been on the air since late 2001, but to date have managed to have only 25 million subscribers.  Just to put that figure in perspective:  That's the equivalent of one week's listenership to all-news WINS/New York.

OTOH, there are perhaps several dozen AM stations that have succumbed over the last 20 years or so because AM radio transmission requires a lot of land, and that land is often much more valuable than the radio station is.  AM transmission requires that wires be buried in the earth and radiate out from the base of each tower, to a length equal to the tower height.  Even a single tower installation can take up a few acres.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 12, 2013, 11:07:58 PM
Quote from: brad2971 on September 12, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
one gets the impression if non-ClearChannel stations start coming to the conclusion that they can keep that elderly audience entertained at a fraction of the cost Limbaugh charges for his show, Limbaugh would be heading to an early retirement.

It's already headed in that direction because Limbaugh is becoming just like the liberals he so despises:  strident, screaming, lecturing and a one-trick pony.  Early on he was an easy listen because he refused to take himself too seriously.  Not anymore.  The classic case of someone who believes his own PR.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Scott5114 on September 12, 2013, 11:54:17 PM
Becoming? Ever since I have heard of the man I have associated "strident, screaming, lecturing" with him.

He also doesn't do himself any favors when he periodically goes too far and spooks the advertisers.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: cpzilliacus on September 13, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
Quote from: SidS1045 on September 12, 2013, 11:07:58 PM
Quote from: brad2971 on September 12, 2013, 10:14:39 PM
one gets the impression if non-ClearChannel stations start coming to the conclusion that they can keep that elderly audience entertained at a fraction of the cost Limbaugh charges for his show, Limbaugh would be heading to an early retirement.

It's already headed in that direction because Limbaugh is becoming just like the liberals he so despises:  strident, screaming, lecturing and a one-trick pony.  Early on he was an easy listen because he refused to take himself too seriously.  Not anymore.  The classic case of someone who believes his own PR.

Limbaugh has a bigger problem - his audience is dying (and not being replaced by younger listeners), and many advertisers don't see any value in supporting his  broadcasts (even ones that used to run ads on his program).
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Alps on September 14, 2013, 12:05:11 AM
On my recent trip out Northwest, AM radio was all I could pick up for hundreds of miles at a time in Montana. On the way back, I had 300 km of silence in the Northwest Territories between low-powered FM stations in each settlement. AM radio can cover distances in places that have them. I support its continued existence.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 16, 2013, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 12, 2013, 11:54:17 PM
He also doesn't do himself any favors when he periodically goes too far and spooks the advertisers.

"Spooks" the advertisers is understating it.  If you could see the long list of advertisers that absolutely refuse to advertise on his show, at both the network and local level, you'd probably be surprised...and every time he opens his mouth and creates even more controversy, the list gets longer.  Those other hosts like Hannity, Savage, Levin, Beck, etc., all have their own advertiser blacklists too.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: agentsteel53 on September 16, 2013, 05:15:29 PM
Quote from: Steve on September 14, 2013, 12:05:11 AM300 km of silence in the Northwest Territories

the best part of that is that you can hear the aurora crackling and popping over the empty FM stations.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: cpzilliacus on September 16, 2013, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Steve on September 14, 2013, 12:05:11 AM
On my recent trip out Northwest, AM radio was all I could pick up for hundreds of miles at a time in Montana. On the way back, I had 300 km of silence in the Northwest Territories between low-powered FM stations in each settlement. AM radio can cover distances in places that have them. I support its continued existence.

Sounds like a good place to have SiriusXM in the vehicle.

Probably the closest I have come to those conditions is along Corridor H, since so much of it is in the National Radio Quiet Zone (http://www.gb.nrao.edu/nrqz/nrqz.shtml), and much of the AM and FM bands are rather quiet as a result.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: Brandon on September 16, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 12, 2013, 11:54:17 PM
Becoming? Ever since I have heard of the man I have associated "strident, screaming, lecturing" with him.

He also doesn't do himself any favors when he periodically goes too far and spooks the advertisers.

He's the low point of the radio broadcasting day, IMHO.  If WLS (AM 890) dropped him and brought on board a local, they'd be the better for it.  To me, he's filler between John Kass (of the Chicago Tribune) & Lauren Cohn, and the Roe & Roeper (of the Chicago Sun-Times) Show.  Kass & Cohn discuss local and state items of interest from Governor Quinn and House Speaker Madigan to Beer Can Chicken.  Roe and Roeper discuss everything under the sun and what movies are playing this weekend.  Richard Roeper basically has taken over from Roger Ebert as the local movie critic on record.

I'd say AM radio is far from dead based on the sports, news, and talk on it locally.  Someone tried an all-news format on FM (killing Q101 in the process pissing off many people, including me), and it failed miserably.  Even WBBM just simulcasts on FM (105.9) what they have on their primary station (AM 780), and they did it more for listeners in the Loop who can't get the AM signal in the skyscrapers there.  As it is, in my town, the AM station (WJOL, AM 1340) is the go to station when a storm strikes.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: cpzilliacus on September 16, 2013, 05:55:15 PM
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Someone tried an all-news format on FM (killing Q101 in the process pissing off many people, including me), and it failed miserably.  Even WBBM just simulcasts on FM (105.9) what they have on their primary station (AM 780), and they did it more for listeners in the Loop who can't get the AM signal in the skyscrapers there.  As it is, in my town, the AM station (WJOL, AM 1340) is the go to station when a storm strikes.

In the Washington, D.C. media market, all-news WTOP (http://www.wtop.com/) (CBS affiliate, though not owned and operated by CBS) went from clear channel (50,000 watts) AM 1500 kHz (now occupied by WFED, a station with content oriented to the federal government) to three FM frequencies (103.5 in and around Washington itself, 107.7 in parts of "outer" Northern Virginia (as far south along I-95 as Richmond) and 103.9 near Frederick, Maryland).

A competing all-news station, WNEW (http://washington.cbslocal.com/station/wnew-99-1-fm/) (which is a CBS O&O station, but cannot carry most CBS content) is on 99.1.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SidS1045 on September 20, 2013, 09:49:13 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2013, 05:43:47 PMI'd say AM radio is far from dead based on the sports, news, and talk on it locally.

Sorry to burst your anecdotal bubble, but with less than 15% of the total radio audience and those listeners it does have in the higher age groups, AM is on life support.  Young and middle-aged people have abandoned AM radio almost entirely.  Its economics are not sustainable.
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: mgk920 on September 20, 2013, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 16, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 12, 2013, 11:54:17 PM
Becoming? Ever since I have heard of the man I have associated "strident, screaming, lecturing" with him.

He also doesn't do himself any favors when he periodically goes too far and spooks the advertisers.

He's the low point of the radio broadcasting day, IMHO.  If WLS (AM 890) dropped him and brought on board a local, they'd be the better for it.  To me, he's filler between John Kass (of the Chicago Tribune) & Lauren Cohn, and the Roe & Roeper (of the Chicago Sun-Times) Show.  Kass & Cohn discuss local and state items of interest from Governor Quinn and House Speaker Madigan to Beer Can Chicken.  Roe and Roeper discuss everything under the sun and what movies are playing this weekend.  Richard Roeper basically has taken over from Roger Ebert as the local movie critic on record.

I'd say AM radio is far from dead based on the sports, news, and talk on it locally.  Someone tried an all-news format on FM (killing Q101 in the process pissing off many people, including me), and it failed miserably.  Even WBBM just simulcasts on FM (105.9) what they have on their primary station (AM 780), and they did it more for listeners in the Loop who can't get the AM signal in the skyscrapers there.  As it is, in my town, the AM station (WJOL, AM 1340) is the go to station when a storm strikes.

IMHO, the big weakness of FM is its very limited range - there are parts of the Chicagoland metro area that are out of reception range of the Chicago FMs, while WBBM, WGN and so forth on AM are still loud and clear.  Even with the interference issues, I can still tune in Chicago AMs here in Appleton and I normally listen to a couple of Milwaukee AMs during the day (FM music is a total wasteland these days).

The local 'go to' AM here in Appleton (WHBY - 1150 AM) has very popular drive time shows.

Mike
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: PHLBOS on September 20, 2013, 10:33:53 AM
Actually, FM talk radio stations have since been forming to either compete with or replace existing AM talk-radio stations.

In the Philly area, many of the local and syndicated conservative talk show hosts (including Beck, Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh & Savage) are now on an recently-created FM station, WWIQ FM 106.9.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-13/entertainment/32195969_1_spoken-word-tv-station-fm (http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-13/entertainment/32195969_1_spoken-word-tv-station-fm)

Article excerpts:

Earlier this spring, WWIQ-FM, a/k/a IQ 106.9, went on the air with a single mission: To pry listeners and ad revenue from two AM radio stations that have dominated the nonsports "spoken word" realm in the Philadelphia market for decades: all-news behemoth KYW (1060) and talk outlet WPHT (1210), both owned and operated by CBS media.
...
WWIQ's corporate parent, Chicago-based Merlin Media LLC, purchased the station – known for decades as Camden-licensed WKDN-FM – last December from evangelical broadcaster Harold Camping, who famously predicted the end of the world would occur May 21, 2011.


Camping's unscriptural debacle was probably the main reason why the Family Radio affiliate went down in flames.

Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: SteveG1988 on September 22, 2013, 07:33:47 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 20, 2013, 10:33:53 AM
Actually, FM talk radio stations have since been forming to either compete with or replace existing AM talk-radio stations.

In the Philly area, many of the local and syndicated conservative talk show hosts (including Beck, Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh & Savage) are now on an recently-created FM station, WWIQ FM 106.9.

http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-13/entertainment/32195969_1_spoken-word-tv-station-fm (http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-13/entertainment/32195969_1_spoken-word-tv-station-fm)

Article excerpts:

Earlier this spring, WWIQ-FM, a/k/a IQ 106.9, went on the air with a single mission: To pry listeners and ad revenue from two AM radio stations that have dominated the nonsports "spoken word" realm in the Philadelphia market for decades: all-news behemoth KYW (1060) and talk outlet WPHT (1210), both owned and operated by CBS media.
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WWIQ's corporate parent, Chicago-based Merlin Media LLC, purchased the station – known for decades as Camden-licensed WKDN-FM – last December from evangelical broadcaster Harold Camping, who famously predicted the end of the world would occur May 21, 2011.


Camping's unscriptural debacle was probably the main reason why the Family Radio affiliate went down in flames.



The station has been sold back to a religious company, they will be keeping the IQ106.9 format, but without any local input.

http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/121083/confirmed-merlin-sells-iq-106-9-philadelphia-to-em

I listen to the station overnight due to the radio i have in the truck i use at work (1990 freightliner fuel truck with a late 90s sony AM/FM/CD/Tape portable radio in it due to the dashboard radio being broken) being iffy for signals due to a broken antenna, 106.9 comes in clear as possible, and i like their overnight programming of red eye radio, i take whatever they say with a grain of salt, deciding for myself on how true or not their opinions are towards the president, congress, or current events.

I only listen to two talk radio stations, NJ 101.5 when i am out and about in my car (which also switches to a rather awesome oldies block on the weekend) and 106.9, i use 1060AM for traffic and other philadelphia updates when i am heading into the city
Title: Re: AM Radio
Post by: mapman1071 on September 26, 2013, 04:04:37 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 10, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 10, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quotelocal news, sports, conservative talk and religious broadcasters

quite possibly my four least favorite things to listen to.  throw in modern country music, commercials, and station identification and we've got the seven plagues.

In the Colorado/4-Corners area, you can throw in many many Spanish stations, including the 100,000+ watt blowtorches from South of the Border as well.  There is one AM in particular that comes in at night from Arizona (?), 660 AM on the dial.  The station is predominantly country, but every 3rd song or so is Native-American music/chants.  Most of the commercials are in English, yet most of the announcing is done in native tongue (not sure what tribe, though).


660 AM "Clear Channel" KTNN Window Rock, Navajo Nation
Country Music, In English & Navajo

I hear this station in Phoenix at night except when the Phoenix Sun's or Diamondbacks are playing on KTAR 620am (The sports programming signal extends from 590am to 670am).