(or, RIROs in left-side-drive)
or is this just suicidally dumb? I know there are left off- and on-ramp sets in various places, but are any sharp enough and low-speed enough to count as a LILO?
Tightest I can remember is 99 near Atwater (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.333318,-120.573728&spn=0.004639,0.007086&gl=us&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.333279,-120.573631&panoid=c3sQADp-GpEH3P1y9Gyxdw&cbp=12,206.93,,0,5.43).
Quote from: NE2 on September 20, 2013, 11:59:32 PM
Tightest I can remember is 99 near Atwater (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.333318,-120.573728&spn=0.004639,0.007086&gl=us&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.333279,-120.573631&panoid=c3sQADp-GpEH3P1y9Gyxdw&cbp=12,206.93,,0,5.43).
I know that one well. I once did the LO and made a mental note to never, ever, ever try the LI. speed of traffic in the
right lane is 75.
(insert here observation of idiot drivers and speed of traffic in the left lane being a relatively placid 59.)
I believe there was formerly one on CA 110 here: http://goo.gl/maps/mRzbB
It's long gone though.
Some of the Storrow Drive exits (Copley comes to mind) in Boston are essentially LILOs (eastbound lanes tunnel under left ramps for the westbound lanes), but I'm not sure if they'd count.
[Side note: Why the hell does Google still have 2007 Streetview imagery for Storrow Drive, when every tiny little street across the city seems to now have new HD imagery!?)
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on September 21, 2013, 11:20:10 PM
I believe there was formerly one on CA 110 here: http://goo.gl/maps/mRzbB
It's long gone though.
Looks like it was only an onramp, at least by 1952 (http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=2&lat=34.075&lon=-118.232&year=1952).
I remembered one today. It's a two-way median U-turn, intended for drivers that missed their exit and signed as such.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=28.383321,-81.567886&spn=0.014517,0.028346&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=28.383107,-81.567791&panoid=uxhNsPTSY7PGUKKq8Bf28g&cbp=12,122.07,,0,2.66
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=28.384982,-81.56853&spn=0.014517,0.028346&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=28.385208,-81.568567&panoid=7HIHOlGCwiracpdHuIPyZg&cbp=12,146.4,,1,3.54
ah, median crossings. I've seen those abused by non-law-enforcement types. in 2003 I distinctly remember nearly creaming a church van that decided to turn around, and enter I-684 southbound from I-684 northbound, proceeding to turn past the median and use the left lane as an acceleration lane.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 22, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
ah, median crossings. I've seen those abused by non-law-enforcement types.
Yeah, but this one's intended to be used by lost tourists.
The former rotary at NY-37 and the road to the bridge linking to Cornwall, Ontario got once a LILO today dismantled. http://www.empirestateroads.com/week/week23.html
The junction of US 9 and US 44 in Poughkeepsie comes to mind:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.702573,-73.934212&spn=0.008106,0.021136&t=k&z=16
And yes, that is a crazy interchange to drive through!
Also, on the FDR drive at 61st/62nd Streets, out:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.759182,-73.958264&spn=0.002056,0.005284&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.759182,-73.958264&panoid=E5rSs9VbrQlCvrkOqCrumA&cbp=12,8.39,,0,15.53
and in:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.76007,-73.957284&spn=0.002072,0.005284&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.760099,-73.95724&panoid=bJKzI1ZCQcfXEfk3OfZtuw&cbp=12,2.68,,0,11.88
But the offramp drops a lane and the onramp adds one back, so it's really not formidable at all. I use the onramp pretty regularly.
Here's one (http://goo.gl/maps/MkLNp) that is apparently not too old (the entrance ramp is an addition). Bonus points for feeding into a roundabout and looking incredibly awkward on paper.
New Jersey (https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.695453,-74.258738&spn=0.002034,0.00434&t=k&z=18)
Quote from: Steve on September 23, 2013, 11:45:42 PM
New Jersey (https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.695453,-74.258738&spn=0.002034,0.00434&t=k&z=18)
unless I'm not seeing what you refer to, that looks like a LOLI with a barrier to prevent the left-entering vehicles from infringing upon the mainline without the benefit of an acceleration lane first.
So it looks like the only unchannelized LILO so far is the one in Disney World. Insert pun about Stitch.
Quote from: NE2 on September 24, 2013, 01:26:56 PM
So it looks like the only unchannelized LILO so far is the one in Disney World. Insert pun about Stitch.
That is so funny!
Quote from: NE2 on September 24, 2013, 01:26:56 PM
So it looks like the only unchannelized LILO so far is the one in Disney World. Insert pun about Stitch.
FDOT experiment 626.
US 22/322 Eastbound with the Watts exit (Huggins Rd) just before US 11/15 and Duncannon, PA.
EDIT: Adding Street View Link
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.450931,-77.021971&spn=0.01659,0.042272&sll=41.117935,-77.604698&sspn=4.204125,10.821533&oq=Huggins&hnear=Huggins+Rd,+Duncannon,+Perry,+Pennsylvania+17020&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=40.450633,-77.021729&panoid=VICZncPGsiK1-4gJ5sa9pQ&cbp=12,135,,0,0
Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 24, 2013, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Steve on September 23, 2013, 11:45:42 PM
New Jersey (https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.695453,-74.258738&spn=0.002034,0.00434&t=k&z=18)
unless I'm not seeing what you refer to, that looks like a LOLI with a barrier to prevent the left-entering vehicles from infringing upon the mainline without the benefit of an acceleration lane first.
The right side (mainline) has a LILO setup in the same way that RIRO means "right into the side road, right out from it." This is left into the slot that lets you make a U-turn, and left out of the slot back into mainline traffic. There is no acceleration or deceleration lane.
I don't know if this qualifies as a "RIRO", but I immediately thought of this intersection northwest of Melbourne, Australia on the Calder Freeway. To successfully turn right onto the Calder, you have to cross the median and then merge into the fast lane on a makeshift "on ramp" which is travelling 100 km/hr.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=-37.676225,144.772065&spn=0.002891,0.005681&t=h&z=18
For the last 5 of the 7 years I spent in Australia, I lived a couple of miles to the south of this and took the Calder into town often, but I only ever performed this maneuver twice. I nearly crapped my pants both times, and swore I wouldn't do it again. They've since closed the two crossover movements, and an interchange is being planned. In the aerial you can see the "on ramp" is faded.
Quote from: Duke87 on September 23, 2013, 09:50:47 PMThe junction of US 9 and US 44 in Poughkeepsie comes to mind:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=41.702573,-73.934212&spn=0.008106,0.021136&t=k&z=16
And yes, that is a crazy interchange to drive through!
Two consecutive short weaving sections on the left, possibly carrying through cars, or not, coming from or going to tight curves. I went through this a couple of times. The interchange is pretty from up top but it's
nasty from a driver's perspective.
OH 7 at I-470? https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.046984,-80.73329&spn=0.01117,0.015986&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6
PA 68 at PA 168? https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.629702,-80.435436&spn=0.005537,0.007993&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6
Multiple between 11th St / Gallia St and Robinson Ave in Portsmouth, OH? https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=38.739055,-82.97254&spn=0.001423,0.001998&t=h&z=19&vpsrc=6
Here is one near Ellicott City, Howard County, Maryland on Md. 100 at Executive Park Drive (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=39.235577,-76.813951&num=1&t=k&z=17).
Quote from: vtk on September 30, 2013, 04:51:57 PM
OH 7 at I-470? https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.046984,-80.73329&spn=0.01117,0.015986&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6
unless there is something I'm not seeing about the directions of the carriageways - this looks to be a RIRO to me
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 01, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
Quote from: vtk on September 30, 2013, 04:51:57 PM
OH 7 at I-470? https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.046984,-80.73329&spn=0.01117,0.015986&t=h&z=16&vpsrc=6
unless there is something I'm not seeing about the directions of the carriageways - this looks to be a RIRO to me
That's a left exit to me : http://goo.gl/maps/h4xHv