Apparently they want to widen I-90 to 8 lanes and it won't fit under the Des Plaines Oasis.
So it will be demolished but the 7-11 and Mobile stations on each side will remain for the time being, but will eventually be demolished to build new ramps to the Elgin O'Hare expressway when it is extended.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130926/NEWS10/130929829/tollway-to-close-des-plaines-oasis
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=9262734
Since they're paying termination fees to the vendors, I'm assuming the structure won't be replaced? If so that's a bummer. Those are one of my favorite features of Chicagoland roadways.
I probably stop there half a dozen times a year on my way between Schaumburg and Chicago.
Only been there once haha
If I read the article right, the original Oasis building was in place for 56 years, while the "rebuilt" oasis will be gone in less than 10.
There's your textbook example of Long-term Planning Failure. :pan:
Quote from: DevalDragon on September 27, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
Apparently they want to widen I-90 to 8 lanes and it won't fit under the Des Plaines Oasis.
The existing shoulders look wide enough to me to squeeze eight lanes under there:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7)
Measuring in Google Earth, I get about 59 feet for EB and about 56 feet for WB, more than enough for four 12 foot lanes plus some narrow shoulders, and certainly no worse than some of the Oasis on the Tri-State:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75)
http://elginohare-westbypass.org/
has some docs that put ramps over parts of the Oasis / Oasis parking lot's likely also height difference as well.
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 29, 2013, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: DevalDragon on September 27, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
Apparently they want to widen I-90 to 8 lanes and it won't fit under the Des Plaines Oasis.
The existing shoulders look wide enough to me to squeeze eight lanes under there:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7)
Measuring in Google Earth, I get about 59 feet for EB and about 56 feet for WB, more than enough for four 12 foot lanes plus some narrow shoulders, and certainly no worse than some of the Oasis on the Tri-State:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75)
However, there are plans to add express bus lanes in the center, adding a total of two lanes per directions with concrete dividers between the bus lanes and the main lanes.
ISTHA needs to rebuild this popular oasis down the road a few miles.
Quote from: Brandon on September 29, 2013, 09:19:36 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 29, 2013, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: DevalDragon on September 27, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
Apparently they want to widen I-90 to 8 lanes and it won't fit under the Des Plaines Oasis.
The existing shoulders look wide enough to me to squeeze eight lanes under there:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7)
Measuring in Google Earth, I get about 59 feet for EB and about 56 feet for WB, more than enough for four 12 foot lanes plus some narrow shoulders, and certainly no worse than some of the Oasis on the Tri-State:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75)
However, there are plans to add express bus lanes in the center, adding a total of two lanes per directions with concrete dividers between the bus lanes and the main lanes.
ISTHA needs to rebuild this popular oasis down the road a few miles.
I'm wondering if they would consider doing a one-sided Oasis like DeKalb. Problem would be where to put the ramps considering that is supposedly where the E-O'Hare Bypass ramps are going to start or like you said, possibly down the road
It's going to be a sad day when they get rid of them! :(
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 29, 2013, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: DevalDragon on September 27, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
Apparently they want to widen I-90 to 8 lanes and it won't fit under the Des Plaines Oasis.
The existing shoulders look wide enough to me to squeeze eight lanes under there:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.014705,-87.926214&spn=0.003376,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.014705,-87.926214&panoid=YD1BaGn_YutgLXQVaxql7Q&cbp=12,296.11,,0,1.7)
Measuring in Google Earth, I get about 59 feet for EB and about 56 feet for WB, more than enough for four 12 foot lanes plus some narrow shoulders, and certainly no worse than some of the Oasis on the Tri-State:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75 (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.950164,-87.882836&spn=0.00679,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.950164,-87.882836&panoid=SWZsm2NMAy3GOgLDFgJMvw&cbp=12,9.89,,0,-1.75)
Yeah, but when you're talking about modifying a facility, you have to meet standards, and that just won't fly.