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Title: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: bugo on November 13, 2013, 09:46:21 AM
When was the last stop sign on an interstate removed?  The only one that I can think of was at the KS/OK border at the south end of the Kansas Turnpike, but I'm not sure if it was signed as I-35 at that time.  Were there any others?
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: NE2 on November 13, 2013, 10:01:37 AM
Last time Jake transported his sign collection.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
Border patrol check points in the Southwest and Texas and agricultural inspection stations in California.

GT-N8013

Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Brandon on November 13, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
Border patrol check points in the Southwest and Texas and agricultural inspection stations in California.

GT-N8013

In that case, you can also count non-ORT toll plazas.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: vdeane on November 13, 2013, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 13, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
Border patrol check points in the Southwest and Texas and agricultural inspection stations in California.

GT-N8013

In that case, you can also count non-ORT toll plazas.
Do they actually post stop signs?  Thruway plazas don't.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Roadsguy on November 13, 2013, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 13, 2013, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 13, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
Border patrol check points in the Southwest and Texas and agricultural inspection stations in California.

GT-N8013

In that case, you can also count non-ORT toll plazas.
Do they actually post stop signs?  Thruway plazas don't.

The PA Turnpike has "GET STOP TICKET" signs all along their toll plazas. However, due to the extra text, I'm not sure they count...
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: roadman on November 13, 2013, 12:40:46 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 13, 2013, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 13, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
Border patrol check points in the Southwest and Texas and agricultural inspection stations in California.

GT-N8013

In that case, you can also count non-ORT toll plazas.
Do they actually post stop signs?  Thruway plazas don't.
MassPike posts Stop Get Ticket signs for entry and Stop Pay Toll signs for exit.  Of course, that will be a moot point when they go AET in a few years.  As for border checkpoints, don't forget I-87 southbound just south of the NY/Canada border - http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2005/HAB0503.pdf
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: 1995hoo on November 13, 2013, 12:52:56 PM
Here's a current stop sign on an Interstate: http://goo.gl/maps/twyz3

:bigass:
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 13, 2013, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
GT-N8013

et tu, Alex??
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Brandon on November 13, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 13, 2013, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 13, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 13, 2013, 11:49:07 AM
Border patrol check points in the Southwest and Texas and agricultural inspection stations in California.

GT-N8013

In that case, you can also count non-ORT toll plazas.
Do they actually post stop signs?  Thruway plazas don't.

ISTHA: https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.723629,-88.03501&spn=0.00231,0.005284&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.723629,-88.03501&panoid=4SERf_UNlDQcp5ThGQ1Oyg&cbp=12,174.23,,0,16.26
Ohio Turnpike: https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.629099,-84.754511&spn=0.004659,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.629099,-84.754511&panoid=rhfuzBaA3x3UwVDTy8pmZg&cbp=12,101.61,,0,1.92
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Henry on November 13, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
Except at toll plazas and international border crossings, I can't imagine any stop signs on an Interstate.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Jardine on November 13, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
I'll try and remember to check later today when I am out, but there might be some snow barriers with stop signs on them.  There are also some drop down automatic barricades, I just can't remember how they are signed.


Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: elsmere241 on November 13, 2013, 03:32:03 PM
I-176's then-south end (now the end of the long ramp for Exit 2) had a stop sign at PA 10/23 as late as 1987.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: pianocello on November 13, 2013, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: Jardine on November 13, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
I'll try and remember to check later today when I am out, but there might be some snow barriers with stop signs on them.  There are also some drop down automatic barricades, I just can't remember how they are signed.

Like the ones on I-35 in Ames? Per Street View, there are no stop signs there, just the barricade.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: realjd on November 13, 2013, 05:00:08 PM
The last time one was removed was probably the last time the inland border checkpoint on I5 between San Diego and Los Angeles closed. So maybe this afternoon sometime? They don't keep it open 24/7.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: agentsteel53 on November 13, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: realjd on November 13, 2013, 05:00:08 PM
The last time one was removed was probably the last time the inland border checkpoint on I5 between San Diego and Los Angeles closed. So maybe this afternoon sometime? They don't keep it open 24/7.

I'm trying to remember if they have STOP signs there.  they definitely have flashing red lights, and officers standing between lanes giving hand signals to either stop or proceed.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: realjd on November 13, 2013, 09:02:33 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 13, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: realjd on November 13, 2013, 05:00:08 PM
The last time one was removed was probably the last time the inland border checkpoint on I5 between San Diego and Los Angeles closed. So maybe this afternoon sometime? They don't keep it open 24/7.

I'm trying to remember if they have STOP signs there.  they definitely have flashing red lights, and officers standing between lanes giving hand signals to either stop or proceed.

I distinctly remember stop signs from the half dozen times I've driven through there with the checkpoint open.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Big John on November 13, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Or Pittsburgh: http://goo.gl/maps/5QcyQ
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Jardine on November 13, 2013, 11:32:56 PM
OK, saw three snow barricades today, and they all had a "Road Closed" sign and some square reflectors along side.

These were all just hinged gates at the ramps, I did not get to see the automatic barrier on the Interstate lanes, so I don't know if the signage is different.  There is a sign on the right that says to exit when flashing, but the crossing arms I don't recall if there is any signs on them.

There has been some snow storms here where I am not sure the crossing arms would be visible till you ran over them, BTW, they are quite thin and insubstantial. As for the flashing lights on the sign, if they are illumined with CFL or LED bulbs, they might ice up to invisibility pretty quick too.  I haven't been unfortunate enough (yet) to see the Interstate closed there and the sign on. 

Don't know where the controls are for the gate and the sign, if it is DOT radio controlled, or if somebody has to go out there and unlock a switch to activate it.

Ugh, winter will be here soon enough, hope we don't need the barriers.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Brandon on November 14, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Or Pittsburgh: http://goo.gl/maps/5QcyQ

Horrible things that should be banned from the freeway.  If you need a stop sign there, then the ramp should be improved with a proper merge area or just removed altogether.
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: colinstu on November 14, 2013, 12:19:01 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 14, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Or Pittsburgh: http://goo.gl/maps/5QcyQ

Horrible things that should be banned from the freeway.  If you need a stop sign there, then the ramp should be improved with a proper merge area or just removed altogether.

Or it's just a very ghetto ramp meter? :)
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Duke87 on November 14, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 14, 2013, 10:10:29 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Or Pittsburgh: http://goo.gl/maps/5QcyQ

Horrible things that should be banned from the freeway.  If you need a stop sign there, then the ramp should be improved with a proper merge area or just removed altogether.

And if there's no room to add an acceleration lane but the ramp is too important to close, then what?

I tend to have a "meh" attitude about stop signs and yields with little to no acceleration lanes entering freeways since downstate New York has tons of them (although I will grant you most of them are not on interstates).

Connecticut, to their credit, has taken a lot of effort to remove such situations from the parkway, and while there are a lot fewer of them now than there were 20-25 years ago, several do still remain and they probably aren't going away anytime soon, either because there's no room to improve them without demolishing a historic bridge (Long Ridge Rd), they're low priority (Den Rd), or the plans to improve the situation are mired by endless court battles and funding issues (Main Ave).
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Revive 755 on November 14, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Or Pittsburgh: http://goo.gl/maps/5QcyQ

Or Wheeling, WV:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wheeling,+wv&hl=en&ll=40.072152,-80.725672&spn=0.007299,0.016512&sll=40.692191,-73.994873&sspn=0.014529,0.033023&hnear=Wheeling,+Ohio,+West+Virginia&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.072175,-80.725384&panoid=LraDeO7FKpiQM6fRu9Y-Fw&cbp=12,274.77,,0,1.4 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wheeling,+wv&hl=en&ll=40.072152,-80.725672&spn=0.007299,0.016512&sll=40.692191,-73.994873&sspn=0.014529,0.033023&hnear=Wheeling,+Ohio,+West+Virginia&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.072175,-80.725384&panoid=LraDeO7FKpiQM6fRu9Y-Fw&cbp=12,274.77,,0,1.4)
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: bassoon1986 on November 15, 2013, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on November 14, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on November 13, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on November 13, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
Well, if we count onramps...

https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.693093,-73.999341&spn=0.002245,0.003862&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.692956,-73.999369&panoid=RwOMRRUQlranVDheFBVwaQ&cbp=12,27.17,,0,16.38
Or Pittsburgh: http://goo.gl/maps/5QcyQ

Or Wheeling, WV:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wheeling,+wv&hl=en&ll=40.072152,-80.725672&spn=0.007299,0.016512&sll=40.692191,-73.994873&sspn=0.014529,0.033023&hnear=Wheeling,+Ohio,+West+Virginia&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.072175,-80.725384&panoid=LraDeO7FKpiQM6fRu9Y-Fw&cbp=12,274.77,,0,1.4 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=wheeling,+wv&hl=en&ll=40.072152,-80.725672&spn=0.007299,0.016512&sll=40.692191,-73.994873&sspn=0.014529,0.033023&hnear=Wheeling,+Ohio,+West+Virginia&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.072175,-80.725384&panoid=LraDeO7FKpiQM6fRu9Y-Fw&cbp=12,274.77,,0,1.4)

I'd always heard people on this forum talk about I-70 being substandard in Wheeling but I didn't realize part of that reason was the interstate being only one lane after you crossed the bridge into WV
Title: Re: Stop signs on interstates
Post by: Mapmikey on November 15, 2013, 09:31:17 PM
Here might be the definitive answer of the most recent stop sign on an interstate that is not related to gates/tolls/barriers, etc.

However, this is a technicality...

In May 2006, AASHTO approved a special request to designate GA 520 Jekyll Island Causeway as I-50 for one day - see http://route.transportation.org/Documents/USRN_Minutes_5-5-06.pdf.  I do not know if it was signed for that one day...

GMSV from 2009 shows that the west end of the causeway at US 17 had a stop sign - http://goo.gl/maps/i25gR

I accept your onslaught of tomatoes...

Mapmikey