Roughly, how many traffic lights are in New Jersey? Also, what is the most convoluted intersection?
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OK, do you mean signalized intersections, or do you mean each individual signal head? If the former, there are probably ways to make some inroads on that data. If the latter, forget it.
This NJ intersection is pretty convoluted:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.904037,-75.095648&spn=0.001641,0.001725&t=h&z=19
Quote from: tradephoric on November 20, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
This NJ intersection is pretty convoluted:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.904037,-75.095648&spn=0.001641,0.001725&t=h&z=19
That's essentially a continuous flow intersection.
This one could have been a lot cooler than it is: https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.489039,-75.025592&spn=0.006715,0.014173&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.488951,-75.025599&panoid=L9wvSUuRSlCxFzQQGvcEVg&cbp=12,350.33,,0,10.16
Quote from: NE2 on November 20, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: tradephoric on November 20, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
This NJ intersection is pretty convoluted:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.904037,-75.095648&spn=0.001641,0.001725&t=h&z=19
That's essentially a continuous flow intersection.
Yeah, but CFIs are patented and this one isn't. I want to design something like this one day, not pay the patent fee, and if I get sued, point to this CFI and win and break the patent.
Quote from: Steve on November 21, 2013, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 20, 2013, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: tradephoric on November 20, 2013, 11:25:08 PM
This NJ intersection is pretty convoluted:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.904037,-75.095648&spn=0.001641,0.001725&t=h&z=19
That's essentially a continuous flow intersection.
Yeah, but CFIs are patented and this one isn't. I want to design something like this one day, not pay the patent fee, and if I get sued, point to this CFI and win and break the patent.
This intersection was built in the 50's/60's something like that, and for the volume of traffic it experiences, it still flows very well. Bonus points to the fact that there still is no dummy lines thru the middle of the intersections, considering nearly every movement involves some sort of curve or adjustment!
Well, if you had to guess, Essex Fells has 0 traffic lights and apparently is proud of it.
Might as well count up the other 564 municipalities and see what they have. Ridgewood has 24 (they are debating where they will put the 25th, because they can't have 26 and be a village).
Too Many or maybe not enough
Billions and billions...
Quote from: Roadgeek Adam on November 21, 2013, 10:23:43 AM
Well, if you had to guess, Essex Fells has 0 traffic lights and apparently is proud of it.
Might as well count up the other 564 municipalities and see what they have. Ridgewood has 24 (they are debating where they will put the 25th, because they can't have 26 and be a village).
The number of traffic lights has nothing to do with whether a municipality can be called a village.
In fact, NJ is a bit unique in that the type of government each municipality has (village, township, etc), has nothing to do with population size. It's much more related to the type of government the town uses, such as elected mayor and council, an elected committee that picks the mayor, etc.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 21, 2013, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: Roadgeek Adam on November 21, 2013, 10:23:43 AM
Well, if you had to guess, Essex Fells has 0 traffic lights and apparently is proud of it.
Might as well count up the other 564 municipalities and see what they have. Ridgewood has 24 (they are debating where they will put the 25th, because they can't have 26 and be a village).
The number of traffic lights has nothing to do with whether a municipality can be called a village.
In fact, NJ is a bit unique in that the type of government each municipality has (village, township, etc), has nothing to do with population size. It's much more related to the type of government the town uses, such as elected mayor and council, an elected committee that picks the mayor, etc.
Unless my friend misquoted (he works for Ridgewood-Glen Rock EMS), then that's what I've heard about the traffic light situation.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 21, 2013, 06:27:58 AM
This intersection was built in the 50's/60's something like that, and for the volume of traffic it experiences, it still flows very well. Bonus points to the fact that there still is no dummy lines thru the middle of the intersections, considering nearly every movement involves some sort of curve or adjustment!
What the fuck is a dummy line?
Quote from: NE2 on November 21, 2013, 05:22:21 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 21, 2013, 06:27:58 AM
This intersection was built in the 50's/60's something like that, and for the volume of traffic it experiences, it still flows very well. Bonus points to the fact that there still is no dummy lines thru the middle of the intersections, considering nearly every movement involves some sort of curve or adjustment!
What the fuck is a dummy line?
It's the fucking short skip line that cuts thru the intersection so you know to stay to the right or left of it, since many people forget that if you start (for example) in the left lane, you're not supposed to drift all over the intersection into whatever random lane you choose.
Yeah, the end of the ramp from 168 north to 130 north could use one of those. Who's the dummy that didn't add one where two lanes become three?
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 21, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
It's the fucking short skip line that cuts thru the intersection so you know to stay to the right or left of it, since many people forget that if you start (for example) in the left lane, you're not supposed to drift all over the intersection into whatever random lane you choose.
it's actually pretty helpful in the situation where traffic is dense enough that you shouldn't pick a lane randomly, but sparse enough that you can't just follow the car in front of you. it gives a well-defined arc for the lanes to take through the turn.
Quote from: NE2 on November 21, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
Yeah, the end of the ramp from 168 north to 130 north could use one of those. Who's the dummy that didn't add one where two lanes become three?
Probably the same dummy that forgot to add the line on Central Florida Parkway at the Sea World Entrance where two lanes turn left into a driveway improperly marked with an orange center line. Luckily you have most tourists that only use the left lane only instead of the both lanes. Otherwise you would have many fender benders or sideswipes as many people do presently think that the Sea World entrance is actually a two way road because of the wrong paint and lane stripe. As a result many are going from the far left lane to the right lane around the corner. If both Orange County and Sea World both put the right pavement markings (and signage) you could have the intersection function the way it is designed to be instead of cars using one lane creating bottlenecks for through Central Florida Parkway motorists and getting more people into the park at one given moment.
Are these an example of dummy lines in the intersection?
http://goo.gl/maps/tYx4E
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Kissimmee,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.308884,-81.436577&spn=0.000455,0.000711&sll=27.698638,-83.804601&sspn=7.407541,11.645508&oq=kiss&t=h&hnear=Kissimmee,+Osceola,+Florida&z=20
Talk about dummy lines, take a look at ones on Dyer Boulevard at Columbia Avenue in Kissimmee, FL. The lines divert through motorists into the right turn lane.