So, the question I have to pose is who is working on a paying job on Thursday, November 28th, and why?
For me, because my shift starts at 10 PM, Wednesday is considered a normal work day, and thus I will be working into Thanksgiving morning. Then 10 PM Thursday is considered a "holiday" shift. I work in technical support where we have to be open 24/7 (and, lets face it, only the United States is celebrating Thanksgiving. Canada celebrated Thanksgiving in October).
Not this year, but last year I worked Thanksgiving because of deployment.
No. Being what I am, an environmental engineer in a consulting capacity, I have Thanksgiving off. I do, however, get paid. :)
If we get snow on Thanksgiving or there is another emergency situation which requires communication to the public about road conditions, I will have to work some, but I will be able to do it from home. Thursday and Friday are paid holidays for me.
Nope. Going to Florida to visit relatives for the week. Even though the day after Thanksgiving isn't a holiday, the courts are closed, and my wife's firm gives them that day off in lieu of Veterans Day, so it's easy to make a four-day weekend of it.
Working in the morning. Because race car.
Yes. I will be working from 6 AM-3:30 PM at Frisch's in Ft. Wright, KY (I am one of the managers). Because scheduled.
I'll be working my normal Thursday scheduled hours of 4:30 AM-1 PM. I'm an assistant manager at a local convenience store. Not a big deal for me personally...I'll be compensated well (double time and a half) and it's a quiet day. I'll also be home early enough to get cleaned up and changed and still make 3 PM dinner on time. My parents always host and they're just a short 15 minute drive via local roads from me.
Yes, I will be working from 5PM to 5AM at Walmart.
Yes, because tourists. I am working this season at Radio City Music Hall on the Christmas show and so, naturally, I'll be working Christmas Day as well. Would be nice, I suppose, to have Thanksgiving off, but since Christmas now starts in October (my first day of work was on Halloween), and since Thanksgiving is a big holiday weekend and the city will be as full as always of tourists–many of whom are from countries that don't celebrate our Thanksgiving–well, we'll be there to entertain them.
Since my wife's out of town anyway, and the family gatherings I'm aware of are a bit more than a day's drive round trip, I'll work two of the three shows that day and take advantage of the company-provided dinner in between. I hear it's actually pretty good.
Does Black Friday count? I work at a retail store that day from 5 AM to 3 PM.
In fact I have worked a Black Friday since 06 for Aramark, when every single Aramark gave their employees a four day weekend, the plant in my area stayed open on Black Friday despite the few customers we had for delivery.
I worked Thanksgiving and Christmas for Westgate Resorts many years ago, but hotels and resorts are open 24/7/365. Other places I have worked in offices I always got a 4 day weekend.
Quote from: jdb1234 on November 22, 2013, 08:29:46 AM
Yes, I will be working from 5PM to 5AM at Walmart.
You have my deepest sympathy.
Working for the government, we get Thanksgiving off of course. We used to get Friday off as well, but only because the governor would sign an executive order permitting us the day off with pay. For about 7 years now, we haven't had that convenience, so it's the rare day when government workers come to work and many private employers have the day off.
Since I do plow snow, if called in, I would then be working. I'd get the normal contracted hourly rate, with no extra just because it's a holiday.
I happen to have it off, but just because my usual schedule includes Thursdays off. My coworkers that typically work Thursday will be there (picking up time-and-a-half, the holiday rate).
Guess here in Spain there isn't such a holiday... however we will have a couple only two days apart soon!
I work graveyards as well, so I go to work at 10 PM on Wednesday and get off approximately 6:30 AM on Thanksgiving morning. I'm off that night.
Odd, where I work, on night shift, we will not be working Wednesday night, with the plant shutting down after 11:00 that night. I'll make up the night though this weekend so it will turn out fine for me.
I have off Thursday and Friday and my office closes at 3pm on Wednesday. Because I'm a contractor for the company, I don't get paid holidays, but I'm perfectly OK with that. (I work as an production editor assistant for medical journals.)
I really despise that retailers are now open on Thanksgiving and start their "Black Friday" sales on Thanksgiving Day. I believe that only essential employees should be working that day, and possibly skeleton crews for semi-essential companies. (I will also give a pass to holiday entertainers and the NFL.) Thanksgiving is a truly American holiday, so there's no reason places need to be open for PC reasons. And I don't agree with the fact that places need to be open because international branches are - my company works with vendors in India and the Philippines, and they will fully close their offices for their national holidays, and we deal perfectly fine. I've ranted a bit in the holiday thread about how we need more holidays and we need to celebrate the ones we actually have. Thanksgiving is a huge example of a holiday that needs to be genuinely celebrated more.
I agree with you there. Though this may be a conflict of interest, as I work in retail and for a store opening up on Thanksgiving, I feel that it should be like it was before. All malls and stores open up early (not during the night) like it was when I was a kid. Santa made his first appearance on Black Friday, and even one year at Woodbridge Center in NJ, he flew in via helicopter in the parking lot for his grand entrance.
It made that day even more special as now you have Christmas displays up right after Halloween ends. Plus Santa, is now available for pictures right now days before Thanksgiving. In addition commercials for Christmas products are on TV already. I used to remember when Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade was when you first saw Christmas commercials on TV as you waited all year for that moment! I remember McDonalds would have their icon Ronald appear in their Christmas Season commercials all througout the 70's and 80's for the first time during station breaks.
Now the Salvation Army is even jumping on the Bandwagon. As for weeks now a man with the bell has been at my local supermarket ringing for donations. They're supposed to be a Christian organization protecting the dignity of the Christmas season and here they are joining this nonsense as well! Once we thought that we would have the Publix in Hunters Creek, FL to do our annual Knights of Columbus Candy Cane Drive the weekend before Thanksgiving to ourselves. This was to avoid the competition with the Salvation Army and give the shoppers a break from having to give to two charities at once or even forced to choose. In the past we did it later after Thanksgiving when they were out, so one year we decided to do it before so we would be all alone, but we were not. They were already out there with the keg and the bell.
Anyway, it is getting out of hand with this Thanksgiving Day openings and its taking away another holiday for us to celebrate. Only doctors, hotel workers, SOME restaurants NOT ALL, airline workers, some public servants, and convenience store workers should only be working on Thanksgiving. In addition, hotels and restaurants should be open for limited hours and no special promos to make more money that require more work than necessary for the employees that are already giving up their time.
This is my first one off in two years, now that I'm out of the hotel business and into the gubment business. I get Thursday off paid, but have to take a vacation day on Friday. I'll take one off on Wednesday too since I'm going back to Idaho.
QuoteAnyway, it is getting out of hand with this Thanksgiving Day openings and its taking away another holiday for us to celebrate. Only doctors, hotel workers, SOME restaurants NOT ALL, airline workers, some public servants, and convenience store workers should only be working on Thanksgiving. In addition, hotels and restaurants should be open for limited hours and no special promos to make more money that require more work than necessary for the employees that are already giving up their time.
Agreed.
Congrats to you. Enjoy your extended weekend.
Your job reminds me of my job in New Jersey, where I would get both days off for Thanksgiving and use some vacation time to take a full week off to visit my folks in Florida. Those, you remind, me were the good ole days as I had a job that let me take my days whenever I wanted. The last full time job I had required you to take a week off at a time as you were not allowed to take them individually per collective bargaining. Plus you had to put in a bid at the end of the year for the next coming year. It was not by anniversary either, but the next New Year after your one year date. My Jersey job let me put in for my days whenever I wanted as long as no one else took their days the same as mine or a black out event which we only had one day in June that qualified as that.
I only worked three years there in Iselin, NJ and had more time off in that little time than I had working my last employer for over 6 years. Being you had only two times a year to use your week as whole, it was long gaps between them. When I had days I could split up almost every three day weekend I would make a longer one out of it using that day. Then once I would use my vacation Memorial Day week and have an extra day off to use being Memorial Day was a paid holiday. Then of course, I would use them randomly and make my own three day weekend. There it seemed like I was well rewarded, and it did not help this last job was not exactly a trade that you could enjoy or brag about as a career either.
However, I am in retail and its still not as bad as some things and even though I enjoyed working in a Hotel/ Timeshare very much, it is a relief to have Sunday's off and to not work Thanksgiving even though the ladder is by chance of schedule, I am enjoying the moment you could say.
I have Thanksgiving off, as I do every year. Office is closed. I don't have Black Friday off, but I will be working from home and I expect it to be a very slow day.
Working from 7am Thanksgiving Day until 7am on Friday the 29th at my firehouse.
I hope DC stays quiet. Being my firehouse is 3 blocks from the Capitol, and surrounded by office buildings that should be closed for the holiday, it should.
I'm off on Thanksgiving (paid holiday), but I'll be working on Wednesday and Friday. Besides the fact I'd have to charge vacation time if I wanted to take Friday off, I actually prefer to work the day after Thanksgiving, as the office is quiet and I'm able to get caught up on things I normally wouldn't be able to get to.
Thursday and Friday are paid holidays for me and the office is closed. I may decide to take part of Wednesday off using vacation time also.
Quote from: roadman on November 24, 2013, 08:11:07 AM
I'm off on Thanksgiving (paid holiday), but I'll be working on Wednesday and Friday. Besides the fact I'd have to charge vacation time if I wanted to take Friday off, I actually prefer to work the day after Thanksgiving, as the office is quiet and I'm able to get caught up on things I normally wouldn't be able to get to.
I have similar at where I work; but since I head up to Massachusetts every year for Thanksgiving (since all my family is up there), I have to eat the Wednesday before and the Friday after as vacation days.
With regards to retail stores being open on Thanksgiving itself; thankfully, that won't happen in MA courtesy of a remnant of the old Blue Laws that are still in effect in the Bay State. No retail store can open until after 12:01 AM Black Friday.
I work in retail, and I'm working 2PM-11PM on Thanksgiving. Not looking forward to dealing with the "Gray Thursday" crowds as our sales times have been moved up yet again. Last year, we had sales at 8PM and 10 PM on Thursday, and 5AM on Friday. This year the sales are at 6PM and 8PM on Thursday and 8AM on Friday. I realize It was my choice to work in retail, but that doesn't mean it sucks any less. I miss the days when out store closed on Wednesday evening and reopened at 5AM on Friday for the big event. About the only positive to it now, is you can have the customers mingling around the store all day and night next to their wanted items, vs. having a big rush of people trying to break down the front door and trample the workers opening the doors. Now, our store is open 24 hours, and the only day all year we close is Christmas. The joke going around work is it will only be a matter of time before we're open on Christmas too, as the closing time on Christmas Eve keeps getting pushed back. For years, it was 6PM, then last year it was 8PM, now this year it's 9PM.
You are right about Christmas. I have seen it happen in the resort industry where Christmas Day was open for a limited schedule in the restaurant (you have to feed the guests) and now its like any other day. Even Steak and Ale (before going out of business) was closed on Christmas Day back in the 80s, but in the 90s they started to advertise how they were being open on Christmas.
Now this could be a tourist thing as Clark, NJ where I worked there was not a tourist town, but Kissimmee, FL is where I did see the ad. I think now that political correctness is taking place, you are going to see Christmas be just a religious holiday and not so much secular as for years even atheists did not care about its meaning, but loved the extra day off for work and was regarded for that.
QuoteWorking from 7am Thanksgiving Day until 7am on Friday the 29th at my firehouse.
I hope DC stays quiet. Being my firehouse is 3 blocks from the Capitol, and surrounded by office buildings that should be closed for the holiday, it should.
Until some idiot in Near Northeast or NoMa sets their turkey on fire and panics...
A fellow sailor down here does weekends at one of the Anne Arundel County firestations. He's cooking Thanksgiving dinner at the station tomorrow.
Quote from: andrewkbrown on November 23, 2013, 10:05:18 PM
Working from 7am Thanksgiving Day until 7am on Friday the 29th at my firehouse.
I hope DC stays quiet. Being my firehouse is 3 blocks from the Capitol, and surrounded by office buildings that should be closed for the holiday, it should.
Oh, noes! You said the "q-word"! Superstitious FFs, EMTs and LEOs everywhere are now cursing! ;-)
Hope you have a good shift.
Quote from: roadman65 on November 26, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
I think now that political correctness is taking place, you are going to see Christmas be just a religious holiday and not so much secular as for years even atheists did not care about its meaning, but loved the extra day off for work and was regarded for that.
It's no such thing. It's pure greed, chasing after the few dollars that might be made by being open when your competitor is not. And since businesses are open, people have to work. And then more businesses stay open to compete with the ones that are already open so as to not fall behind. And then nobody has the holiday off anymore.
Wasn't it during Dicken's time when Christmas was just another day (http://markholtz.info/f2) and they had little time for Christmas?
BTW: I'm at work right now. Slow night.
Quote from: signalman on November 22, 2013, 03:44:10 AMI'm an assistant manager at a local convenience store.
Do you ever find interesting coins at work? I find them all the time. I've found scores of wheat pennies and pre-1960 Jefferson nickels, 2 1943 steel pennies, a 1912 "V" nickel, 2 1942 35% silver war nickels, a buffalo nickel with the date worn off, over 30 silver Roosevelt dimes, a 1964 silver quarter, a 40% silver bicentennial quarter, 3 silver Franklin half dollars from '52 and '53, a dozen or more 1965-1969 40% silver half dollars, a series 1957A $1 silver certificate, and an 1861 (!) British half penny. I've also found many foreign coins, some pre-1996 $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 bills, many $2 bills (I saved the nicest ones), many post-1970 half dollars, several 1979 and 1 1980 SBD coins, a half dozen or more Eisenhower dollars, and many other old and interesting coins.
Quote from: roadman65 on November 26, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
Now this could be a tourist thing as Clark, NJ where I worked there was not a tourist town, but Kissimmee, FL is where I did see the ad. I think now that political correctness is taking place, you are going to see Christmas be just a religious holiday and not so much secular as for years even atheists did not care about its meaning, but loved the extra day off for work and was regarded for that.
Christmas is mostly a secular holiday and has been so for many years. Most atheists I know do indeed celebrate it, but as a non-religious holiday. Some of them celebrate the winter solstice instead. Don't forget that many Christmas traditions were ripped off from other religions, namely paganism. Don't stereotype non-believers as Christmas haters.
I have most of the day off but I have to go in at 10 Thursday night. Since my family is 3 hours away in Arkansas, I don't mind working because I won't be able to celebrate the holiday anyway.
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 03:07:48 AM
Do you ever find interesting coins at work?
Oh yes. I've purchased a lot of nice coins and bills out of circulation over the years. I don't see nearly as many silver coins as I've seen you claim to find in this topic and other threads. However, crisp old bills ( silver certificates and pre-1996) are quite common. I have one each of the pre-1996 denominations, as well as tons of silver certificates and $2 bills. As far as coins go, I'm not really that interested in them. I'll pull silver coins out of circulation, but like I said, I rarely come across them. I do collect the presidential dollars and state/US posession and now national park quarters. Since the presidential dollars are no longer circulated, I guess I'll have to buy uncirculated ones from the mint if I want to continue my collection. I also have some wheat pennies and steel pennies that I obtained as a kid.
As for the topic at hand...
Today is just another Thursday for me. It's already a paid holiday for me, plus I get time and a half for my hours worked. So it works out to be double time and a half. Not bad for a generally slow morning. Early on I get the chance to get work done that I normally don't have enough time for without being interrupted every 5 minutes. Plus I have time to talk with the regulars who pop in and are cool. If history repeats itself, business is just starting to pick up late morning when my day is almost over. I work the early morning shift, 4:30am-1pm. I have plenty of time to get home to shower and change and still make it for a 3pm dinner. Dinner is just a short drive to my dad and step mom's who only live about 15 mins from me. So in short, for me it's a good day to make money and it's a fair trade for me so that I can have Christmas off.
Quote from: signalman on November 28, 2013, 04:14:09 AM
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 03:07:48 AM
Do you ever find interesting coins at work?
Oh yes. I've purchased a lot of nice coins and bills out of circulation over the years. I don't see nearly as many silver coins as I've seen you claim to find in this topic and other threads.
Claim to find? I don't lie about the coins I find. I have no reason to. I have pictures of many of them located at http://s167.photobucket.com/user/bugo348/library/?sort=3&page=1 if you want to take a look at them.
Been at work since 6AM eastern. So far it's been pretty dead. Thanks to working until 10 last night, I'm trying not to fall asleep.
And on the subject of silver coins, I got $6 worth of silver quarters (mostly early 60s) at work Monday.
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 03:12:52 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 26, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
Now this could be a tourist thing as Clark, NJ where I worked there was not a tourist town, but Kissimmee, FL is where I did see the ad. I think now that political correctness is taking place, you are going to see Christmas be just a religious holiday and not so much secular as for years even atheists did not care about its meaning, but loved the extra day off for work and was regarded for that.
Christmas is mostly a secular holiday and has been so for many years. Most atheists I know do indeed celebrate it, but as a non-religious holiday. Some of them celebrate the winter solstice instead. Don't forget that many Christmas traditions were ripped off from other religions, namely paganism. Don't stereotype non-believers as Christmas haters.
I did not stereotype non Christians as Christmas haters! If you read the line, I said quite the opposite and stated that these non believers even celebrate the holiday also! It's the business owners that I was referring to that have forgotten that it is holiday for everyone and the fact that political correctness has effected even us believers as well taking us away from this holiday that has been around for years! It is politics of the people that is the culprit and not any specific religious or non religious group if you read it carefully!
Quote from: ZLoth on November 28, 2013, 02:24:29 AM
Wasn't it during Dicken's time when Christmas was just another day (http://markholtz.info/f2) and they had little time for Christmas?
Christmas Eve, maybe, but Christmas Day was a holiday. In a Christmas Carol, Scrooge tries to get Bob Cratchett to work Christmas Day, and Bob objects. You are meant to see how mean Scrooge is by his action, not that Bob is trying to get a day off that he isn't entitled to.
The Interregnum, however, has the "Cromwell banned Christmas" myth - he just stopped it being a holiday, and CofE churches couldn't hold special services. You could have gone to a dissenting church (something that you couldn't do under Charles II), and your boss could give you the day off. You certainly could have had a big family meal, presents, etc.
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 03:12:52 AMDon't forget that many Christmas traditions were ripped off from other religions, namely paganism.
A lot of these traditions and mythologies are 19th and 20th Century and secular. Santa being red, having a reindeer called Rudolph. Turkey and tinsel. Beginning before the 24th (and the recent tradition of beginning before Advent) and ending before the 6th. Robins, cards, etc. All secular, all recent.
Most of the religious ones are of Christian origin, that got ripped off by paganism ancient and modern, but as explained in the 'cancel the holidays' thread, we subconsciously assume that Christians ripped off paganism, and cannot comprehend the other way. There are a very few pagan imports into Christmas that I looked at in the other thread.
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 06:16:47 AM
Quote from: signalman on November 28, 2013, 04:14:09 AM
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 03:07:48 AM
Do you ever find interesting coins at work?
Oh yes. I've purchased a lot of nice coins and bills out of circulation over the years. I don't see nearly as many silver coins as I've seen you claim to find in this topic and other threads.
Claim to find? I don't lie about the coins I find. I have no reason to. I have pictures of many of them located at http://s167.photobucket.com/user/bugo348/library/?sort=3&page=1 if you want to take a look at them.
Please don't be offended. I did not mean what I said in an offensive way. I merely had no rock solid proof, I was not alleging that you're a liar. I take everything I read with a grain of salt. I've never met you, nor have we ever conversed. The only thing I have to go on is what I've read from your posts. Nice collection, btw.
A bit off-topic to the subject, but I spotted one good movie scene from a good Thanksgiving movie "Planes, Trains and Automobiles".
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 22, 2013, 12:23:34 PM
Working for the government, we get Thanksgiving off of course. We used to get Friday off as well, but only because the governor would sign an executive order permitting us the day off with pay. For about 7 years now, we haven't had that convenience, so it's the rare day when government workers come to work and many private employers have the day off.
Along those lines, officially I only get a half day off on Christmas Eve, but this county executive usually gives us the afternoon off. (Not all of them have.)
Quote from: realjd on November 24, 2013, 09:15:29 AM
Thursday and Friday are paid holidays for me and the office is closed. I may decide to take part of Wednesday off using vacation time also.
Only two of the five of us in my group at work came in yesterday.
It ended up not being too busy at the store. I mostly moved Pepsi out of the stockroom onto the sales floor.
Quote from: Takumi on November 28, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
It ended up not being too busy at the store. I mostly moved Pepsi out of the stockroom onto the sales floor.
I think that the boycot maybe effective somewhat. Although, will it convince someone who works in an office building high up WHO DOES HAVE THANKSGIVING OFF, to admit its a bad move!
Quote from: signalman on November 28, 2013, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 06:16:47 AM
Quote from: signalman on November 28, 2013, 04:14:09 AM
Quote from: bugo on November 28, 2013, 03:07:48 AM
Do you ever find interesting coins at work?
Oh yes. I've purchased a lot of nice coins and bills out of circulation over the years. I don't see nearly as many silver coins as I've seen you claim to find in this topic and other threads.
Claim to find? I don't lie about the coins I find. I have no reason to. I have pictures of many of them located at http://s167.photobucket.com/user/bugo348/library/?sort=3&page=1 if you want to take a look at them.
Please don't be offended. I did not mean what I said in an offensive way. I merely had no rock solid proof, I was not alleging that you're a liar. I take everything I read with a grain of salt. I've never met you, nor have we ever conversed. The only thing I have to go on is what I've read from your posts. Nice collection, btw.
I've met many members of this forum in person, including the King Of aaroads.com, Alex, and they can all vouch for my integrity.
Thanksgiving night, and I'm back at work dealing with multiple issues.
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on November 28, 2013, 03:43:48 PM
A bit off-topic to the subject, but I spotted one good movie scene from a good Thanksgiving movie "Planes, Trains and Automobiles".
I agree Stephanie- it's an excellent holiday movie. Great comedy, and with a nice touch at the end as well (and I still LMAO watching John Candy's "jacket" scene).
Quote from: roadman on November 29, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
I agree Stephanie
This needs to go in the "I miss MTR" thread. :-D
So, now, who all is working Christmas day? :wave:
Quote from: empirestate on November 30, 2013, 12:57:36 AM
So, now, who all is working Christmas day? :wave:
Nope, OT. Make a new thread for that :spin:
Who died and made you Alex?
This topic is already in the off topic forum.
Quote from: bugo on November 30, 2013, 04:36:41 AM
Who died and made you Alex?
Wait, is Alex an elected position? I nominate bugo for Alex.