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Title: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: Shades101 on December 25, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
  Title says it all, really. I'm looking for sign gantries with the most BGS's on them. The biggest I've seen in the US in on 395 in DC, right before the 695 split.   http://goo.gl/maps/154PR (http://goo.gl/maps/154PR)     So, yeah. Post what you've seen.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: mass_citizen on December 25, 2013, 10:50:17 PM
not only does that have a lot of signs but the signs seem extremely cluttered. talk about information overload.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: sammi on December 25, 2013, 11:00:38 PM
That last sign looks the least necessary. You can reduce that to the train station icon on the fourth sign. The first two signs can probably be reduced into a single distance sign?

    So. Capitol St.          ½
    JCT [295] SOUTH    1¼
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 03:22:51 AM
"The House" is kind of wasteful too. Assuming it's referring to the U.S. House of Representatives, which I am pretty sure it is because I recall a "US Senate" in that area too, one could simply leave it at "US Capitol", since that is where the House is centered.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: NE2 on December 26, 2013, 03:40:52 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 03:22:51 AM
"The House" is kind of wasteful too. Assuming it's referring to the U.S. House of Representatives,
It used to say White House but since Obama's not white...

Anyway, here's a couple sixes:
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/virginia495/i-495_il_exit_046_02.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/virginia495/i-495_ol_exit_057_14.jpg)

There's probably one somewhere with more than six with signs for express lanes, local lanes, and a C/D road all on the same gantry.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: hotdogPi on December 26, 2013, 09:14:01 AM
How about the New Jersey Turnpike, where each sign is posted twice (two sets of lanes)? Do any of those have at least 6?
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: hbelkins on December 26, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 03:22:51 AM
"The House" is kind of wasteful too. Assuming it's referring to the U.S. House of Representatives, which I am pretty sure it is because I recall a "US Senate" in that area too, one could simply leave it at "US Capitol", since that is where the House is centered.

The 395 sign does mention the Senate, so my guess is that the references to House and Senate are for the office buildings for the various representatives and senators. It's been 10 years since I was in that area, but it seems like I recall the Senate office buildings being on one side of the Capitol, and the House buildings being on the other side.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: formulanone on December 26, 2013, 10:34:24 AM
Well, it would seem natural to have two sets for Express or Truck or C/D lanes.

I-75/71 South in Cincinnati:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F11%2FInt71s%2BInt75s-5BGSs.jpg&hash=0d5a236aa3399765378ecce452d65f272eaea0a5)

I want to say I've seen a few more with five or six, or even more cluttered...
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 26, 2013, 11:41:28 AM
Quote from: 1 on December 26, 2013, 09:14:01 AM
How about the New Jersey Turnpike, where each sign is posted twice (two sets of lanes)? Do any of those have at least 6?

Off the top of my head, no.  The supports for the overhead signs are almost always for a single roadway.  I found one case, just south of Exit 15W, where the overhead structure goes over both the North & South lanes (North: Drum VMS, Exit 15W. South: Neon VMS, CSLS).

The Dual-Dual section between Interchanges 6 & 14 always has seperate signs structures over only one section of roadway.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 26, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 03:22:51 AM
"The House" is kind of wasteful too. Assuming it's referring to the U.S. House of Representatives, which I am pretty sure it is because I recall a "US Senate" in that area too, one could simply leave it at "US Capitol", since that is where the House is centered.

The 395 sign does mention the Senate, so my guess is that the references to House and Senate are for the office buildings for the various representatives and senators. It's been 10 years since I was in that area, but it seems like I recall the Senate office buildings being on one side of the Capitol, and the House buildings being on the other side.

Still, though, if someone were really trying to get to, say, the Dirksen Senate Office Building (which, I would wager, the vast majority of the public has no need to visit), wouldn't it be more appropriate to route everyone to the Capitol, and then post smaller signs directing you to the office buildings from there? I seem to recall they're not all that far from the Capitol, not enough to be considered a separate destination in most cases...
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: Alps on December 27, 2013, 07:16:30 PM
Old-school five on NJ 3 (split into 2 photos):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fnj%2Fnj_3%2Fetpes.jpg&hash=e84c22722b37f0646d84276469f9c9b1a77c9900)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fnj%2Fnj_3%2Fletp.jpg&hash=62cdd23a2bbbd59a4e9b9278f363987be0addaff)
First one's over express lanes, second one over local, where 3 hits the 495/Tpk. E Spur interchange

Modern equivalent: http://goo.gl/maps/yZp1c
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: cpzilliacus on December 27, 2013, 07:39:59 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 26, 2013, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 03:22:51 AM
"The House" is kind of wasteful too. Assuming it's referring to the U.S. House of Representatives, which I am pretty sure it is because I recall a "US Senate" in that area too, one could simply leave it at "US Capitol", since that is where the House is centered.

The 395 sign does mention the Senate, so my guess is that the references to House and Senate are for the office buildings for the various representatives and senators. It's been 10 years since I was in that area, but it seems like I recall the Senate office buildings being on one side of the Capitol, and the House buildings being on the other side.

The U.S. Senate office buildings are on the north side of the U.S. Capitol (all of them are in the Northeast quadrant of D.C.).  U.S. House of Representatives offices are on the south side of the Capitol - some are in the Southwest quadrant, others are in Southeast.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: cpzilliacus on December 27, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 06:48:03 PM
Still, though, if someone were really trying to get to, say, the Dirksen Senate Office Building (which, I would wager, the vast majority of the public has no need to visit), wouldn't it be more appropriate to route everyone to the Capitol, and then post smaller signs directing you to the office buildings from there? I seem to recall they're not all that far from the Capitol, not enough to be considered a separate destination in most cases...

If your senator has his or her office in Dirksen, you might want to go there to visit.  It might be hard to catch your senator, but all or very nearly all Senate and House offices have staff people who are there in part to welcome constituents to their offices.

The bigger problem is this - unless you work on Capitol Hill for the legislative branch of the federal government, there is essentially no parking available at all.  There are no public pay garages, and essentially all of the on-street parking is reserved at all times for people employed by legislative branch.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: cpzilliacus on December 27, 2013, 07:48:01 PM
Quote from: Shades101 on December 25, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
Title says it all, really. I'm looking for sign gantries with the most BGS's on them. The biggest I've seen in the US in on 395 in DC, right before the 695 split.   http://goo.gl/maps/154PR (http://goo.gl/maps/154PR)     So, yeah. Post what you've seen.

The signs on this gantry badly need to be updated (and many of them are in the process of being replaced by DDOT as part of the 11th Street Bridge reconstruction project) to show that it is now possible to reach D.C. 295 northbound (and not just I-295 southbound) from I-695 eastbound.
Title: Re: Gantries with the Most Signs
Post by: JMoses24 on December 28, 2013, 07:04:33 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 26, 2013, 10:34:24 AM
Well, it would seem natural to have two sets for Express or Truck or C/D lanes.

I-75/71 South in Cincinnati:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F11%2FInt71s%2BInt75s-5BGSs.jpg&hash=0d5a236aa3399765378ecce452d65f272eaea0a5)

I want to say I've seen a few more with five or six, or even more cluttered...

Also, that's one rare instance where a sign ends up over an opposing, non-reversible lane of traffic.