What I'm after here are bannered U.S. routes that, by their designation should be a loop but aren't, or which don't really meet the criteria to be so designated. I suggest fixes for the examples I cite, so I suspect he mods may kick this to Fictional Highways.
U.S. 50 Business, Pueblo CO. This is an incomplete business loop, or at best the westernmost portion is an unmarked concurrency with I-25. This is the original route of U.S. 50 until it was moved north of the Arkansas River in the late 1950s and intersected the highway that became I-25 north of downtown Pueblo. It's about 15 miles long. In downtown Pueblo, it's marked along Santa Fe Avenue from the south as far north as 4th St. (CO-96), and this intersection is the end of State Route 50C, as the state inventory calls it. Traffic following eastbound U.S. 50 into Pueblo does not see marking for this route, but the first mention of the route along i-25 is the "Ilex interchange" (98A) south of downtown. I would renumber the east-west portion CO-250 and end it at the aforementioned I-25 interchange just north of where it joins Santa Fe Avenue. This would also require changing the street name for the highway down the Arkansas River valley east of Pueblo, since for much of the route all street addresses are xxxxx Highway 50.
U.S. 183 Bypass, Hays KS. This is a road that bypasses the southwest quadrant of the city from U.S. 183 to I-70. It isn't marked between this interchange and U.S. 183 on the north side of the city. The "fix" would be to simply mark the Bypass route from the interchange of U.S. 183 and I-70 west to the interchange with the bypass, thus completing the loop.
Alternate U.S. 93 and Alternate U.S. 50 in Nevada. Neither of these is really intended to have traffic loop off the mainline and back again, since the additional mileage to use the alternates is much longer in both cases. These both were previously designated as alternates of other U.S. routes: Alternate 93 was originally part of the very long Alternate U.S. 50 that ran from Ely NV to Spanish Fork UT; and Alternate U.S. 50 from west of Fallon to Fernley was Alternate 95 (actually a tee of the existing U.S. 95 Alternate). Both function as spurs and probably should be designated as such. Does AASHTO recognize and approve U.S. Spur routes?
I would disagree on Alternate US 93- it is well signed along its I-80 concurrency, but more importantly Wendover is a minor sort of destination- I could easily conceive somebody driving from Vegas to Boise opting to detour through Wendover to do some gambling and spend the night.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 29, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
Alternate U.S. 93 and Alternate U.S. 50 in Nevada. Neither of these is really intended to have traffic loop off the mainline and back again, since the additional mileage to use the alternates is much longer in both cases. These both were previously designated as alternates of other U.S. routes: Alternate 93 was originally part of the very long Alternate U.S. 50 that ran from Ely NV to Spanish Fork UT; and Alternate U.S. 50 from west of Fallon to Fernley was Alternate 95 (actually a tee of the existing U.S. 95 Alternate). Both function as spurs and probably should be designated as such. Does AASHTO recognize and approve U.S. Spur routes?
I agree with corco on ALT 93. And ALT 50 should probably be SPUR 50, but that would eliminate the unusual ALT 50/ALT 95 duplex, so I'm not sure I'd want to see it changed, either.
I'd add
BUS 101 outside of Astoria, OR. This route is mostly rural, preserving the old route US 101 took before the Young's Bay Bridge, so it really doesn't serve any business district -- that's along US 30. It should be ALT 101, as it's erroneously identified as on one of the overheads on US 101 in Astoria, or it should just be eliminated in favor of OR 105, its hidden highway designation.
One I'd add is the current situation with the BUS US 2 in Ironwood, Michigan. WisDOT removed the signage on the connection between the state line and US 51 and then along US 51 back to US 2 in Hurley. However, last I had read online, that connection is still a state highway in Hurley.
I'm pretty sure the US 183 bypass in Kansas was signed along I-70 once upon a time.
There may be a similar situation in Aberdeen, Ohio and Maysville, Ky. now, with the relocation of US 68 and the truncation of Business US 68. I haven't been to Aberdeen since shortly after the new US 68 in Kentucky opened, and the day I was there, the sign crews were changing signs on the Kentucky side.
If you want to extend this to state highways, West Virginia is full of examples where routes that are labeled as alternates (or in one case, a business route) should be labeled as spur routes.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2013, 10:10:29 PM
If you want to extend this to state highways, West Virginia is full of examples where routes that are labeled as alternates (or in one case, a business route) should be labeled as spur routes.
WV 27 Alternate doesn't touch WV 27 anywhere.
BYPASS US 71 in Alexandria - follows I-49 between its junctions with US 71/MacArthur Drive on either side of the city. Completely concurrent with I-49, so what's the point?
BUS US 167 in Alexandria - follows the old US 167 alignment on MacArthur Drive/Lee Street/Mason-Overton Streets (US 167 proper is now on I-49). Does not serve downtown, so not sure why this gets to be a business route. A state designation (or downloading the road to the city or parish) would have sufficed.
BUS US 90 in Lake Charles - this once served downtown LC, but now misses downtown completely (route is Enterprise Boulevard, Broad Street, and Timberline Drive which is more or less a frontage road to I-210). Again, I fail to see why this should be a business route.
BUS US 90 in New Orleans - since it is constructed to a higher standard than the mainline, this should probably be US 90 proper. The current US 90 (via the Huey Long Bridge, Jefferson Highway, South Claiborne Avenue) should be marked as state highways.
BUS US 90 in Houston - this was US 90 proper prior to the opening of the Crosby Freeway, and has apparently been officially considered a business route in the Texas route logs well before that time. Since it serves no business centers, it would appear to be inappropriately bannered.
ALT US 90 in Texas - is this route much of an alternate to anything anymore? Especially given that US 90 itself is not marked on the segments where it is contiguous with I-10.
BUS US 287 in Fort Worth - seems like a much slower alternative than the mainline and hardly more direct. The middle section was rerouted in 2012 near downtown Fort Worth via Spur 280 and I-35W, so it makes even less sense as a business route as currently routed.
ALT US 31 and 41 in Tennessee/Kentucky - are these really useful as alternate US routes anymore? Most of the US 31 corridor traffic follows I-65 and most of the US 41 corridor traffic follows I-24. The only portion of either that seemed fairly important was the Hopkinsville KY-Fort Campbell segment of ALT US 41, and that was recently bypassed by the Pennyrile Parkway extension.
BUS US 95 in Las Vegas - seems to be similar to the Alexandria situation where a US route was rerouted and, instead of removing the signs, a Business banner was simply added. This should just be marked as NV 599.
As for ALT US 93 and ALT US 50, could they not simply be signed as Spur US routes? Most Spur US highways are not nearly so long, but essentially these routes function as spurs to and from their parent routes.
Business routes make sense when a town is bypassed at a distance and local interests would benefit from marking a bannered route along the old route to serve the town center. (Most Interstate business routes serve this function.) Business routes do not make sense when they are simply re-designations of the old alignments of mainline routes within urbanized areas, especially when the new route serves the town or city center adequately on its own.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2013, 10:10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure the US 183 bypass in Kansas was signed along I-70 once upon a time.
I traveled to Kansas City on I-70 a number of times in the early-mid aughts and never saw it posted on I-70. I've also gotten off the freeway at U.S. 183 to the north to buy fuel and didn't see the supposed north beginning of the bypass posted there.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 29, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
Both function as spurs and probably should be designated as such. Does AASHTO recognize and approve U.S. Spur routes?
I forgot to answer this last night. I assume the answer is yes, as there are two instances of US 95 SPUR in Payette and Weiser, Idaho, the latter actually extending into Oregon.
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Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 30, 2013, 12:34:47 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2013, 10:10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure the US 183 bypass in Kansas was signed along I-70 once upon a time.
I traveled to Kansas City on I-70 a number of times in the early-mid aughts and never saw it posted on I-70. I've also gotten off the freeway at U.S. 183 to the north to buy fuel and didn't see the supposed north beginning of the bypass posted there.
I'm going off memory for my one time through the area, in 1991. I wonder if the route is marked on Kansas official maps? (If there's an inset for that location...)
US 90 Business in New Orleans. It should be a BYPASS, ALTERNATE, or even mainline with the mainline as BUSINESS, or even how about I-910?
Then you have US 190 Business in Slidell that has all of its businesses along its mainline as the Business route goes through residential neighborhoods.
Oh and we cannot forget about the Morgan City Business Route that is a spur and does not reconnect with its parent!
The saga of US 1 ALT in NJ - once signed on city-maintained roads, south from US 1 BUS (which still exists), and then mysteriously disappearing at the state line on the Trenton Makes bridge. Thing is, I'm not certain if PA ever picked up its end to complete the route, or if it was always a Trenton-only thing.
Quote from: xonhulu on December 30, 2013, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 29, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
Both function as spurs and probably should be designated as such. Does AASHTO recognize and approve U.S. Spur routes?
I forgot to answer this last night. I assume the answer is yes, as there are two instances of US 95 SPUR in Payette and Weiser, Idaho, the latter actually extending into Oregon.
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I've seen U.S. 183 Spur in Oklahoma (signed like the photo, in the shield) and U.S. 59 Spur in Missouri. But, is it an AASHTO approved designation or just signed by the state on its own initiative? I asked because I don't recall seeing SPUR being an approved category in the AASHTO guidelines, like ALT, BUSINESS and BY-PASS are.
I'm 97% sure the one in Idaho/Oregon is AASHTO approved
Quote from: roadman65 on December 30, 2013, 01:37:46 PM
Oh and we cannot forget about the Morgan City Business Route that is a spur and does not reconnect with its parent!
I thought the signs were pretty clear from mainline US 90 that the Business route makes a loop from the old alignment beginning at the exit with LA 182 and LA 70 down to exit 182 at LA 662. Not that I think it's the greatest of US business routes but I've seen routes more pitiful. This one at least connects at both ends although I don't know what signage is like on the bus. route itself.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 30, 2013, 08:45:58 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 30, 2013, 01:37:46 PM
Oh and we cannot forget about the Morgan City Business Route that is a spur and does not reconnect with its parent!
I thought the signs were pretty clear from mainline US 90 that the Business route makes a loop from the old alignment beginning at the exit with LA 182 and LA 70 down to exit 182 at LA 662. Not that I think it's the greatest of US business routes but I've seen routes more pitiful. This one at least connects at both ends although I don't know what signage is like on the bus. route itself.
Then signage stinks. When I was there I did not see any evidence of it and that was June 11.
All of them. It's just added numerical confusion.
There's one in Nebraska for Business US 275 in Fremont. Essentially, it follows the old highway, but when you are going south on Bell, it just suddenly disappears at Morningside. I always assumed this is because Business US 275 is purely Fremont's idea, as it could easily be extended southeastward to NE 36 and then take the short trek eastward to US 275. It could also easily go eastward on Morningside, since Morningside has an exit from US 275, but I'm not sure about the quality of that road.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 30, 2013, 07:22:44 PM
I've seen U.S. 183 Spur in Oklahoma (signed like the photo, in the shield)
You're thinking of US-281:
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There's also a Spur SH-7 now that is signed similarly (designated when ODOT took over part of the Chickasaw Turnpike). There is also a Spur SH-51 and a Loop SH-56, but the latter at least is signed with a typical black and white plate about a typical shield.
Not to get Fictional Highways here, but rather than use a non-standard banner, maybe they should have designated Spur US-281 as SH-281B or SH-8C (or even SH-40B!), since lettered routes are a thing in Oklahoma.
Nah. Spur US 281 should be US 270 to give a single number to the OKC-panhandle route. Current US 270 becomes SH 66 because it is old US 66.
After spending some time in New Mexico, the few bypasses I've encountered (Alamagordo and Roswell) have some ambiguous signage. The bypasses are signed well enough as 'relief routes' and one gets the idea that you can avoid some traffic signals by using them, however there is no indication as to which route is the actual US highway. Both the bypass and the 'thru-town' route are signed the same (US 54/70 in Alamagordo and US 285 in Roswell).
This could easily be remedied with the addition of business routes. It's not like they are an unfamiliar concept in the state; the interstates all have a bunch of them. Keep the mainline US highways on the bypasses and add some "Business" banners to the appropriate signage in town. Problem solved.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 31, 2013, 11:56:31 AM
After spending some time in New Mexico, the few bypasses I've encountered (Alamagordo and Roswell) have some ambiguous signage. The bypasses are signed well enough as 'relief routes' and one gets the idea that you can avoid some traffic signals by using them, however there is no indication as to which route is the actual US highway. Both the bypass and the 'thru-town' route are signed the same (US 54/70 in Alamagordo and US 285 in Roswell).
This could easily be remedied with the addition of business routes. It's not like they are an unfamiliar concept in the state; the interstates all have a bunch of them. Keep the mainline US highways on the bypasses and add some "Business" banners to the appropriate signage in town. Problem solved.
furthermore, there have been business US routes in New Mexico since the dawn of time. but yeah, that 54/70 signage is absolutely terrible, especially given the completely unintuitive configuration of the interchange approaching from the south.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 31, 2013, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 31, 2013, 11:56:31 AM
After spending some time in New Mexico, the few bypasses I've encountered (Alamagordo and Roswell) have some ambiguous signage. The bypasses are signed well enough as 'relief routes' and one gets the idea that you can avoid some traffic signals by using them, however there is no indication as to which route is the actual US highway. Both the bypass and the 'thru-town' route are signed the same (US 54/70 in Alamagordo and US 285 in Roswell).
This could easily be remedied with the addition of business routes. It's not like they are an unfamiliar concept in the state; the interstates all have a bunch of them. Keep the mainline US highways on the bypasses and add some "Business" banners to the appropriate signage in town. Problem solved.
furthermore, there have been business US routes in New Mexico since the dawn of time. but yeah, that 54/70 signage is absolutely terrible, especially given the completely unintuitive configuration of the interchange approaching from the south.
In both cases, the routes through town were removed from the state highway system and the U.S. routes officially moved to the relief routes. Both moves, I believe, were AASHTO-approved. But because it's New Mexico, the signage sucks. I agree, formal business routes would be appropriate in both instances.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 29, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
Alternate U.S. 93 and Alternate U.S. 50 in Nevada. Neither of these is really intended to have traffic loop off the mainline and back again, since the additional mileage to use the alternates is much longer in both cases. These both were previously designated as alternates of other U.S. routes: Alternate 93 was originally part of the very long Alternate U.S. 50 that ran from Ely NV to Spanish Fork UT; and Alternate U.S. 50 from west of Fallon to Fernley was Alternate 95 (actually a tee of the existing U.S. 95 Alternate). Both function as spurs and probably should be designated as such. Does AASHTO recognize and approve U.S. Spur routes?
I agree with corco on ALT 93. And ALT 50 should probably be SPUR 50, but that would eliminate the unusual ALT 50/ALT 95 duplex, so I'm not sure I'd want to see it changed, either.
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I would somewhat agree that Alt US 50 could be a spur route, as the main purpose would be to connect Fallon and Fernley. However, it does still loop back to US 50 at Silver Springs (but isn't a feasible "alternate" in the true sense).
Looking at this area from a historical context warrants examination of another route: Alt US 95. The prior designation of this Alt US 50 between Fallon and Fernley as Alt US 95 was preceeded by it being part of the original mainline US 95's extension south through Nevada from Winnemucca to Las Vegas. This was before the straight shot from I-80 to Fallon was improved and US 95 was relocated there to eliminate the backtracking.
At some point prior to US 95 being relocated away from Fernley, the current US 95 Alt was designated from Schurz to Fernley via Yerington. So originally the US 95 mainline and alternates met in Fernley--the difference between the routes was about 3 miles difference. When mainline 95 was relocated, they just made the old mainline into an alternate, which formed the current full alternate route and the Alt US 95 spur that would later become todays Alt US 50.
With that change, the current US 95 Alternate route is also an unfeasible "alternate" in the true sense, as it puts at least 50 miles (likely more) on the route and takes you way out of the way before rejoining the mainline. I don't know what would be a good solution, as this seems too long to be a feasible spur also...
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 31, 2013, 07:36:33 AM
There's also a Spur SH-7 now that is signed similarly (designated when ODOT took over part of the Chickasaw Turnpike). There is also a Spur SH-51 and a Loop SH-56, but the latter at least is signed with a typical black and white plate about a typical shield.
OK Loop 56 doesn't even connect to OK 56. It should be signed (along with a short section of US 62) as Bypass US 75, as it is faster (but longer) than staying on US 75 through Okmulgee.
Business US 64 in Wynne, AR ends at AR 1 and does not connect to US 64 on the western end.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 30, 2013, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 30, 2013, 12:34:47 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2013, 10:10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure the US 183 bypass in Kansas was signed along I-70 once upon a time.
I traveled to Kansas City on I-70 a number of times in the early-mid aughts and never saw it posted on I-70. I've also gotten off the freeway at U.S. 183 to the north to buy fuel and didn't see the supposed north beginning of the bypass posted there.
I'm going off memory for my one time through the area, in 1991. I wonder if the route is marked on Kansas official maps? (If there's an inset for that location...)
There is an inset for Hays on Kansas maps. My personal experience (which comes entirely from memory since I haven't been in Hays for over 10 years).
* Bypass 183 has always been signed that way, on that southwest loop only and never anywhere else. I've also never seen any indication that there has been or was to intended to be an extension north from I-70 back to U.S. 183. Perhaps Richie has more info.
* Kansas has signed/does sign some bypass routes that ought to be signed "SPUR" rather than "BYPASS". U.S. 183 in Hays is one of them. Also, there was once a Bypass U.S. 50 in Garden City that would have been more appropriate as a spur as it's purpose was to get traffic from U.S. 50 to (then) U.S. 156 without having to go all the way downtown. That purpose was taken over later by Spur U.S. 83, which is now part of the mainline for 50, 83 and 400.
Quote from: apeman33 on January 01, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
* Bypass 183 has always been signed that way, on that southwest loop only and never anywhere else. I've also never seen any indication that there has been or was to intended to be an extension north from I-70 back to U.S. 183. Perhaps Richie has more info.
There's no indication that the US 183 Bypass was ever planned to loop back to US 183 North of I-70. Bypass US 183 was created, in part, out of an old US 40 bypass. It was originally designated as "Alternate" US 183, but in 1981, was re-bannered as "By-Pass" The Rural Reslution (https://idmweb.ksdot.org/publiclib/doccontent.dll?DocId=003709385:1) changing the designation also indicates that,
de jure, the US 183 by-pass is designated along I-70.
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* Kansas has signed/does sign some bypass routes that ought to be signed "SPUR" rather than "BYPASS". U.S. 183 in Hays is one of them. Also, there was once a Bypass U.S. 50 in Garden City that would have been more appropriate as a spur as it's purpose was to get traffic from U.S. 50 to (then) U.S. 156 without having to go all the way downtown. That purpose was taken over later by Spur U.S. 83, which is now part of the mainline for 50, 83 and 400.
I show that spur (which was between then-US 50S and US 50N) as being bannered as a spur, rather than bypass.
The State Highway Commission did not use the "Business" banner initially... either they were bannered "Alternate" or what is now the Mainline was bannered as "By-Pass." The Banners were changed by resolution in April of 1981 (the series of US Highway related resolutions also demoted 154, 156, and 383 to K-numbered routes)
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on December 29, 2013, 11:05:56 PM
BYPASS US 71 in Alexandria - follows I-49 between its junctions with US 71/MacArthur Drive on either side of the city. Completely concurrent with I-49, so what's the point?
From what I understand, that stretch of I-49 was built before the rest of the highway, and served as a bypass of US 71, so that's where it got its name. Now it's redundant, but for some reason they haven't decommissioned it.
Is Bypass US 71 signed on I-49? Pics?
Quote from: bugo on January 16, 2014, 08:32:00 PM
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on December 29, 2013, 11:05:56 PM
BYPASS US 71 in Alexandria - follows I-49 between its junctions with US 71/MacArthur Drive on either side of the city. Completely concurrent with I-49, so what's the point?
From what I understand, that stretch of I-49 was built before the rest of the highway, and served as a bypass of US 71, so that's where it got its name. Now it's redundant, but for some reason they haven't decommissioned it.
Is Bypass US 71 signed on I-49? Pics?
I am nearly 100% certain that the Alexandria urban section was one of the last segments of original I-49 constructed and opened, just before the Shreveport urban section (completed 1996). I vividly remember a family trip in 1991 or whereabouts when we had to pass through Alexandria via MacArthur Drive (US 71) and LA 1 because the freeway was still incomplete through the city. To be precise, the freeway ended at US 71 south of town and picked up again at LA 498 (Airbase Road) near what is now Alexandria Int'l Airport. IIRC, the Bypass US 71 designation was commissioned around 1999 or so.
Quote from: DandyDan on December 31, 2013, 07:12:03 AM
There's one in Nebraska for Business US 275 in Fremont. Essentially, it follows the old highway, but when you are going south on Bell, it just suddenly disappears at Morningside. I always assumed this is because Business US 275 is purely Fremont's idea, as it could easily be extended southeastward to NE 36 and then take the short trek eastward to US 275. It could also easily go eastward on Morningside, since Morningside has an exit from US 275, but I'm not sure about the quality of that road.
There was a US 275A signed along old US 275 soon after the freeway was opened. I don't have pictures, but Neil Bratney was with me on that trip and can confirm the signs were there. I don't know how long this lasted, but it was definitely there (I believe it was 2002 when we took that trip).
Quote from: bugo on January 16, 2014, 08:32:00 PM
Is Bypass US 71 signed on I-49? Pics?
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Quote from: route56 on January 16, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
There's no indication that the US 183 Bypass was ever planned to loop back to US 183 North of I-70. Bypass US 183 was created, in part, out of an old US 40 bypass.
Wow, Richie, I didn't know that. You learn something new every day. Thanks for the info.
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on January 16, 2014, 08:52:09 PM
I am nearly 100% certain that the Alexandria urban section was one of the last segments of original I-49 constructed and opened, just before the Shreveport urban section (completed 1996). I vividly remember a family trip in 1991 or whereabouts when we had to pass through Alexandria via MacArthur Drive (US 71) and LA 1 because the freeway was still incomplete through the city. To be precise, the freeway ended at US 71 south of town and picked up again at LA 498 (Airbase Road) near what is now Alexandria Int'l Airport. IIRC, the Bypass US 71 designation was commissioned around 1999 or so.
Guess my observation was incorrect. It doesn't make any sense if it wasn't commissioned until 1999. I don't remember if there were signs or not when I went through there in 1998 on the way to Florida.
Quote from: xonhulu on December 30, 2013, 01:08:36 PM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on December 29, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
Both function as spurs and probably should be designated as such. Does AASHTO recognize and approve U.S. Spur routes?
I forgot to answer this last night. I assume the answer is yes, as there are two instances of US 95 SPUR in Payette and Weiser, Idaho, the latter actually extending into Oregon.
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Isn't this old US 630, the 2 mile long US highway? Somebody should take down the Spur 95 signs (there can't be more than a few) and replace them with US 630 signs.
Quote from: bugo on January 16, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Isn't this old US 630, the 2 mile long US highway? Somebody should take down the Spur 95 signs (there can't be more than a few) and replace them with US 630 signs.
next time I'm there, I can put up a cutout or two.
Quote from: route56 on January 16, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
I show that spur (which was between then-US 50S and US 50N) as being bannered as a spur, rather than bypass.
It could have been a spur in the books but I specifically remember it being signed "By-Pass." However, I've never pretended to believe my memory is close to perfect. Spur 83 is the first route I remember seeing signed as a spur anywhere.