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Title: Wasted Space
Post by: Mergingtraffic on January 03, 2014, 03:46:25 PM
Any roads or intersections have wasted space that could easily accommodate an extra lane or two that is needed but doesn't?  I'm talking either with minor road widening or restriping lanes to use all available pavement?

An example:
CT-123 underpass is 4-lanes but there is enough space under the bridge to fit in at least 2-more lanes either as a through-lane or exclusive left-turn lane. 

https://www.google.com/maps?q=US-7+norwalk,+ct&hl=en&ll=41.126181,-73.426529&spn=0.002715,0.003959&sll=41.500765,-72.757507&sspn=1.382335,2.026978&t=h&hnear=7,+Norwalk,+Fairfield,+Connecticut+06854&z=18


and on CT-69 NB there is definitely enough space to restripe and add in an exclusive left-turn lane.

https://www.google.com/maps?q=US-7+norwalk,+ct&hl=en&ll=41.502435,-72.979113&spn=0.000955,0.00099&sll=41.500765,-72.757507&sspn=1.382335,2.026978&t=h&hnear=7,+Norwalk,+Fairfield,+Connecticut+06854&z=20
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: PHLBOS on January 03, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: doofy103 on January 03, 2014, 03:46:25 PMon CT-69 NB there is definitely enough space to restripe and add in an exclusive left-turn lane.

https://www.google.com/maps?q=US-7+norwalk,+ct&hl=en&ll=41.502435,-72.979113&spn=0.000955,0.00099&sll=41.500765,-72.757507&sspn=1.382335,2.026978&t=h&hnear=7,+Norwalk,+Fairfield,+Connecticut+06854&z=20
Without seeing the actual Right-Of-Way lines for CT 69 and surrounding property lines for that intersection; there may be land-takings involved for such a road widening.
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: hotdogPi on January 03, 2014, 04:02:05 PM












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Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 03, 2014, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 03, 2014, 04:02:05 PM












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Speaking of wasted space... :-)
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: hotdogPi on January 03, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Picture is MA 28 south.

North of here, it's 2 lanes in each direction. South of here, it's 2 lanes in each direction. It's still 2 car widths. This is a 1/4 mile section of 1 lane in each direction.



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Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: Alps on January 03, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Any road in PA with a center turn lane in a rural area was once 4 lanes and should be restored. (I'm looking at US 30.)
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: Alex4897 on January 03, 2014, 10:05:40 PM
DE 1 has a stretch through Dover that has enough space in the left shoulder for an extra through lane.  It starts a little south of the Bay Road overpass and goes to the entrance of the quarry south of Exit 92.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.137801,-75.498379&spn=0.000957,0.002064&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=39.137801,-75.498379&panoid=0fnIdIXheIZTy1asQj_yaA&cbp=12,156.35,,0,3.8 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.137801,-75.498379&spn=0.000957,0.002064&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=39.137801,-75.498379&panoid=0fnIdIXheIZTy1asQj_yaA&cbp=12,156.35,,0,3.8)
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: Eth on January 04, 2014, 12:34:55 PM
Eastbound I-24 in Tennessee near Murfreesboro (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d448!2d-86.3908749!3d35.8068877!2m1!1e3&fid=7) has such a stretch a little over a mile long, starting at the US 231 interchange.
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: SidS1045 on January 04, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 03, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Picture is MA 28 south.

MA 28 is 152 miles long.  It would help to know where on MA 28 this photo was taken.
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: hotdogPi on January 04, 2014, 10:32:31 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on January 04, 2014, 10:28:55 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 03, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Picture is MA 28 south.

MA 28 is 152 miles long.  It would help to know where on MA 28 this photo was taken.

It's about 1 mile south of the New Hampshire border.
Title: Re: Wasted Space
Post by: KEK Inc. on January 06, 2014, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on January 03, 2014, 10:05:40 PM
DE 1 has a stretch through Dover that has enough space in the left shoulder for an extra through lane.  It starts a little south of the Bay Road overpass and goes to the entrance of the quarry south of Exit 92.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.137801,-75.498379&spn=0.000957,0.002064&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=39.137801,-75.498379&panoid=0fnIdIXheIZTy1asQj_yaA&cbp=12,156.35,,0,3.8 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=39.137801,-75.498379&spn=0.000957,0.002064&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=39.137801,-75.498379&panoid=0fnIdIXheIZTy1asQj_yaA&cbp=12,156.35,,0,3.8)

Until about 5-7 years ago, CA-87 was the same way through San Jose.   They redid the highway, along with many settling issues and made it 3 lanes (HOV left).