I once suggested a Karma feature, where you could give positive Karma to a poster. In retrospect, this was a bad idea. Instead, how about a like feature, like Facebook and many other websites have? I often see posts that I agree with, but I don't want to reply to just say "+1" or "I agree". This would also let a poster know that other posters had read their post and that some of them agree with it. This would be a very useful feature and would be a positive addition to the forum.
NO!
I've seen that in action on a certain political blog I used to frequent. It helped destroy the community there, IMHO.
How about a 'teabagger post' button?
Eh, Im not sure. I like the idea on the surface, but then when I think about it not so much. I loathe the idea of a dislike button. If somebody says something you disagree with or can disprove or dont like- tell them that and have a discussion. My fear on a like button is similar- turns things into a popularity contest. People will inevitably begin judging the quality of posts by the number of likes- on a topic as semipolitical as roads, a like button is likely to turn into a passive aggressive ideological battle that doesnt actually further the discussion.
Quote from: NE2 on January 13, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
How about a 'teabagger post' button?
We really don't need to know what you do in your spare time, SPUI. Please, it's TMFI!
Quote from: bugo on January 13, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
I once suggested a Karma feature, where you could give positive Karma to a poster. In retrospect, this was a bad idea. Instead, how about a like feature, like Facebook and many other websites have? I often see posts that I agree with, but I don't want to reply to just say "+1" or "I agree". This would also let a poster know that other posters had read their post and that some of them agree with it. This would be a very useful feature and would be a positive addition to the forum.
+1
No, but really, I've seen this on sites I frequently visit and think it's a good idea. I know on vBulletin / IPB [Invision Power Board] BBS you were able to give other uses reputation for a post - which wasn't the worst idea, but here, that may be a little debatable.
I think the Like Button waters down discussion. Having a Dislike Button to go with it would dumb it down even further. I moderate a board with a Like button; some folks never use it, some use it sparingly, and there's many that just logroll the system by backscratching each other despite a rather average (to poor) post quality.
The rookies gravitate towards the ones with the most likes, and maybe 25% of those in the Most Likes categories deserve it, in my opinion.
Quote from: NE2 on January 13, 2014, 03:22:33 PM
How about a 'teabagger post' button?
It always comes with a string attached.
If there is only an upvote button and no downvote button, some bad ones will be really high if people think it's good.
If there is also a downvote button, people might spam downvotes.
Quote from: Zeffy on January 13, 2014, 04:01:54 PM
+1
+2
Just upload one of the zillion "like" graphics to your site or your Flickr/Imgur/Whatever account and link to it. Problem solved.
A "like button", if it is implemented like on SkyscraperCity.com, would be an awesome idea. On SSC it is a completely ancillary feature and does not hide posts or give anyone "karma". Also there is no dislike feature and members who like a post have there user name posted at the bottom of said liked post (only 5 names are listed, any more are listed as: "and # more like this post").
Quote from: on_wisconsin on January 13, 2014, 11:08:21 PM
On SSC it is a completely ancillary feature and does not hide posts or give anyone "karma".
There is, actually. Sort of. They call it
Likes (Received). Example (http://i.imgur.com/X52L6M1.png) (again, I edited the image to remove my shitty username, which is why it's not linked there)
There are some mods out there that could bring this kind of function to this forum. Unfortunately, I don't think it would be possible to add an 'unlike' feature too as I can't find any mod that does that.
The bad part is that the one mod that looks like will work the best for us here is a paid mod (well, it has a free version, but that version is neutered). Also, you can only like the entire thread with the free version, as liking individual posts is only possible in the pay version. And I can't see Alex agreeing to a pay mod at this time.
This was the mod that I found that could have worked the best: SMF Likes Lite (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3029)
Quote from: corco on January 13, 2014, 03:28:40 PM
Eh, Im not sure. I like the idea on the surface, but then when I think about it not so much. I loathe the idea of a dislike button. If somebody says something you disagree with or can disprove or dont like- tell them that and have a discussion. My fear on a like button is similar- turns things into a popularity contest. People will inevitably begin judging the quality of posts by the number of likes- on a topic as semipolitical as roads, a like button is likely to turn into a passive aggressive ideological battle that doesnt actually further the discussion.
I completely agree. To an extent, I feel the same way with having a post count. Quantity doesn't always equal
quality, and high numbers only seem to stroke egos that would be better left untouched. I'd rather see a "I agree" button if anything.
I really don't like the idea of a "dislike" button. I think if you disagree with someone's comment enough to be motivated to give some indication of it, you should give a reason why you feel that way (preferably more than just "yawn" or "fuck you," but then, if someone posts that sort of reply, it just damages his own credibility).
I don't really see much reason for "like" or "dislike" buttons because I don't think it's hard to assess the value of a post. It's sort of like perusing the reviews on Amazon.com when considering whether to buy a product. They do let people vote on whether reviews are helpful, but I don't need the vote count because I think it's easy to determine which reviews are useful and which are written by grade-school kids as a school assignment. Plus, the people who vote something helpful might be doing so for reasons that are of little interest to you (an example might be if somebody's review focuses on why a stereo component is convenient to operate but doesn't discuss sound quality–if your focus is on the sound, that review won't help you).
I hate the idea. come up with something original, as opposed to being a part of the nodding sheep circle-jerk culture.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2014, 09:57:17 AM
I hate the idea. come up with something original, as opposed to being a part of the nodding sheep circle-jerk culture.
:thumbsup: :-D
Dislike
Just use this picture.
(https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1530301_10151814520316681_109981439_n.jpg)
You're welcome.
^^ Or Wilbur Post?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.telegraph.co.uk%2Fmultimedia%2Farchive%2F01293%2Fmred_1293879i.jpg&hash=0d1a31300d35cab4e949dcdef96993f8f1759862)
Do the pictures mean that we're horsing around now?
Neigh.
If I want the "like" button, I'll use Facebook
Quote from: ET21 on January 27, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
If I want the "like" button, I'll use Facebook
Like.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 27, 2014, 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: ET21 on January 27, 2014, 01:23:14 PM
If I want the "like" button, I'll use Facebook
Like.
Saw a billboard the other day as I was leaving Dallas at the airport:
"It's not called "Like" Field." (in reference to Love Field)
I've seen thumbs-up/down work well on one forum and work badly on another. The difference between the two: Anonymity. The latter actually created a "spy tool" so that you can see who gave you which finger. Predictable result: Lots of retaliatory repping in both directions. And it only reinforced the impression that the particular site was dominated by an elite clique.
I'd like to have thumbs-up/down here, as long as the fingering remains anonymous.
Quote from: jbnv on May 15, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
I've seen thumbs-up/down work well on one forum and work badly on another. The difference between the two: Anonymity. The latter actually created a "spy tool" so that you can see who gave you which finger. Predictable result: Lots of retaliatory repping in both directions. And it only reinforced the impression that the particular site was dominated by an elite clique.
I'd like to have thumbs-up/down here, as long as the fingering remains anonymous.
I'd rather just have an image of a middle finger for a smiley instead of + or - for a post. Be an adult, give the finger like you mean it.
Quote from: jbnv on May 15, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
I'd like to have thumbs-up/down here, as long as the fingering remains anonymous.
So we'd be anonymously fingering each other? ;-)
Funny to see all the different takes on this subject since my experiences on various forums, which range from anarchic freewheeling to heavily moderated, have never really had a problem with the like/dislike feature. Until I read this thread I have never even seen the issue debated.
Now that I have it's obvious we have a YMMV deal going on. Here's my take for this forum. The moderation element is relatively light since the forum culture element is so strong and positive. A few kerfuffles come up but not often. Banning members isn't going on. Cliques aren't doing drive-bys on each other even if it is a road forum...LOL! All in all I would say if we had a +/- feature here that it wouldn't be overly disruptive to this community but I don't think it would add much either, so put the idea down as one having a minimal impact as my best guess.
If implementing a like/dislike system is more hassle than it's worth, then don't worry about it and let the roads roll!
Rick
Quote from: vdeane on May 15, 2014, 06:18:20 PM
Quote from: jbnv on May 15, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
I'd like to have thumbs-up/down here, as long as the fingering remains anonymous.
So we'd be anonymously fingering each other? ;-)
I like this system.
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 14, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
I really don't like the idea of a "dislike" button. I think if you disagree with someone's comment enough to be motivated to give some indication of it, you should give a reason why you feel that way (preferably more than just "yawn" or "fuck you," but then, if someone posts that sort of reply, it just damages his own credibility).
I don't really see much reason for "like" or "dislike" buttons because I don't think it's hard to assess the value of a post. It's sort of like perusing the reviews on Amazon.com when considering whether to buy a product. They do let people vote on whether reviews are helpful, but I don't need the vote count because I think it's easy to determine which reviews are useful and which are written by grade-school kids as a school assignment. Plus, the people who vote something helpful might be doing so for reasons that are of little interest to you (an example might be if somebody's review focuses on why a stereo component is convenient to operate but doesn't discuss sound quality–if your focus is on the sound, that review won't help you).
This is well put. The internet craves standardization and thus simplification, because broad, simple standards brings ease and marketability. Quality of content (i.e. the personal investment) doesn't really grow from that kind of system.
(Or, if you prefer, "+1")
I don't really think it adds anything to what is generally a rich and healthy discussion forum.
Although it sounds good, in my experience moding a company forum with thumbs up/down is they get rated on the person more and the content less.
iPhone
I am all for a like button (as long as there is no karma or points), especially for the Road Illustrations sub-forum. It would be a great way to show appreciation for someones work when you don't necessarily have anything else to say.
Nope. Reddit has it and I hate it.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 17, 2017, 01:43:14 AM
Nope. Reddit has it and I hate it.
The difference with Reddit is that there is always the risk of getting downvoted if you're incorrect, people don't agree with you, or they don't understand your joke.
Its all like social media and sounds good, but the arguments here against it have merit and in the real world maybe should not be. We have a lot of Aspies on here who get their feelings hurt real easily, and some not seeing likes to comments of theirs like similar comments to others could create more friction.
I think just words we say will do. Plus we could install a thumbs up icon or use something like this one :clap: which could be the same.
Quote from: roadman65 on April 18, 2017, 01:07:45 PM
Its all like social media and sounds good, but the arguments here against it have merit and in the real world maybe should not be. We have a lot of Aspies on here who get their feelings hurt real easily, and some not seeing likes to comments of theirs like similar comments to others could create more friction.
I think just words we say will do. Plus we could install a thumbs up icon or use something like this one :clap: which could be the same.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bigass:
(Reply deleted because after I posted I thought it'd cause too much trouble if people knew where it was directed.)
Alanland? Or should I say puppyland now that your buddy Ethanman8675309 title is now given to the hypetenuse man (or kid).
Quote from: roadman65 on April 19, 2017, 08:00:51 AM
Alanland? Or should I say puppyland now that your buddy Ethanman8675309 title is now given to the hypetenuse man (or kid).
If you're referring to my comment, no, neither of those. I had made a comment referring, without mentioning any names, to an active forum member, but I then decided it would just cause trouble.