Are there any?
I want to think that either Business US 30 at Marshalltown, Iowa, or Business US 36 at Chillicothe, Mo. might qualify.
US 190 Business in Slidell, LA has its northern terminus at US 11.
Gettysburg, PA had NB US 15 BUSINESS end at PA 394 for years and had a TO US 15 sign direct motorists back to its parent.
Defunct US 22 ALT in NJ dead ended in Downtown Phillipsburg, NJ. I know its not a BUS route, but could have been one as it served as one for its parent.
I have always thought that business loops have both ends at the parent and business spurs only have one end at the parent. Is this right?
Quote from: 1 on January 31, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
I have always thought that business loops have both ends at the parent and business spurs only have one end at the parent. Is this right?
Yes. And Arkansas.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 31, 2014, 08:01:53 PM
Are there any?
Since the Glen Burnie Bypass was signed as I-97 instead of Md. 3, Business Md. 3 (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=MD-3BUS+N%2FRte+3+Business+N%2FState+3+Business+N%2FState+Rte+3+Business+N%2FCrain+Hwy&daddr=39.135869,-76.6339801+to:39.1628788,-76.6260895+to:MD-3BUS+N&hl=en&ll=39.159483,-76.613674&spn=0.065088,0.126858&sll=39.138715,-76.629553&sspn=0.032554,0.063429&geocode=FTEHVQIdOopu-w%3BFX0qVQIdhKhu-ylvhdE9rvy3iTGRJ9Rd2mmCFQ%3BFf6TVQIdV8du-ylZeJZw2fy3iTFFaMHrk5Nqig%3BFfH0VQIdZvdu-w&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=14&via=1,2&t=m&z=13) (Crain Highway) in Glen Burnie, Anne Arundel County, has
no connection to its parent route, since Md. 3 (also Crain Highway) was truncated some distance to the south at the Md. 3/Md. 32/I-97 interchange (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=39.064981,-76.644073&ll=39.065315,-76.644144&spn=0.032588,0.063429&num=1&t=m&z=14) in Millersville or Gambrills (your choice of which place name to use).
US 64 Business in Wake County, NC uses the old US 64 routing before the current US 64/US 264 (now I-495/Future I-495) Knightdale Bypass was built, to I-440. While it may officially return to US 64 on I-440 East, there is no signage to indicate this at the I-440 interchange (at least it did the last time I was there in 2012).
Quote from: bob7374 on January 31, 2014, 10:25:08 PM
US 64 Business in Wake County, NC uses the old US 64 routing before the current US 64/US 264 (now I-495/Future I-495) Knightdale Bypass was built, to I-440. While it may officially return to US 64 on I-440 East, there is no signage to indicate this at the I-440 interchange (at least it did the last time I was there in 2012).
On the Goog (2011) I see a TO WEST 64 assembly, which is enough when approaching the end of a business route (it's standard in some states, such as Wyoming IIRC, to use only this type of signage after you pass through downtown).
Business Spur 40 to Fort mumblesomething in OK (it's 3 AM, alright?)
Business I-83 in York PA
Business I-495 in Lowell MA (or what was ever signed of it)
Business State Highway 289 in Prosper used to loop back, but TxDOT gave the northern half to the town in 2009 and now both it and FM 1193 (Broadway) terminate at right angles to each other.
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 02:53:06 AM
Business I-83 in York PA
Eh? This one returns by overlapping PA 181. 'tain't signed too well, but there are signs for it on I-83 south.
Business Loop I-15 in Lake Elsinore CA appears to have its north end at Lakeshore and CA 74, marked with an "End" sign. There's only an implied connection, via about two miles on CA 74, back to I-15 exit 77.
Another odd feature of this route is that it appears to be "three-legged", with one south end at I-15 exit 75, and the other at I-15 exit 73. This is something I need to research some more.
Not a BL, but Truck US 219 in Ridgway PA has its signed north end at PA 120. Truckers need to travel west on PA 120 to return to the US 219 mainline.
Quote from: NE2 on January 31, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 31, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
I have always thought that business loops have both ends at the parent and business spurs only have one end at the parent. Is this right?
Yes. And Arkansas.
Arkansas doesn't differentiate between US BUsiness Loops or Business Spurs. We've not had any Interstate Business Loops for 30-40 years.
Augusta has a Bus 64 that is a spur.
AR 102 has a Business Route that is a Spur at Centerton (original US 71)
Too early to come up with any others.
Quote from: NE2 on February 01, 2014, 03:20:34 AM
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 02:53:06 AM
Business I-83 in York PA
Eh? This one returns by overlapping PA 181. 'tain't signed too well, but there are signs for it on I-83 south.
And here I was thinking Business 83 ends at US 30 and becomes PA 181. My fault for believing signage.
In many states, signage on business routes heading away from downtown often deliberately reads TO [Interstate] rather than having business shields.
If unofficial loops count, Belle Fourche maintains a Business US 212 that ends at US 85.
I am not sure anymore about Trenton, NJ for US 1 Business. Although officially it loops completely, however some signs take it west of the Brunswick Circle on Strawberry Street and then onto Princeton Avenue into Downtown Trenton. If following the signage, it will end abruptly on the Trenton Makes Bridge where it is not signed in PA at all anymore.
US 1 Business is the other way on Strawberry Street from the Circle where it has an interchange with its parent and thus is its official southern terminus.
US 220 Business north of Bedford in PA may return to its parent, but it is not signed on US 220 at all at the place it returns.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 31, 2014, 08:01:53 PM
Are there any?
I want to think that either Business US 30 at Marshalltown, Iowa might qualify.
Nope, it ends at US-30 on both ends. The signs are pretty clear about it, too (at least they were when the Street View car covered it).
BUS I-94 in Marshall, MI, is an odd one. The route follows M-96 and I-69, but signs eastbound don't begin until the junction between 69 and 96 rather than the 69/94 interchange. Westbound, it is signed all the way.
Quote from: roadman65 on February 01, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
I am not sure anymore about Trenton, NJ for US 1 Business. Although officially it loops completely, however some signs take it west of the Brunswick Circle on Strawberry Street and then onto Princeton Avenue into Downtown Trenton. If following the signage, it will end abruptly on the Trenton Makes Bridge where it is not signed in PA at all anymore.
US 1 Business is the other way on Strawberry Street from the Circle where it has an interchange with its parent and thus is its official southern terminus.
US 220 Business north of Bedford in PA may return to its parent, but it is not signed on US 220 at all at the place it returns.
1 Business is out of Trenton. It was really 1 Alternate, and I wasn't in Trenton pre-1988 to vouch for whether PA ever continued that designation back to 1. After 1988, for some reason the ALTs got replaced with BUS even though it was no longer any route at all, hence the confusion.
PA is unclear about ALT US 1, but old maps do show it. I do remember the ALT signs though in Downtown Trenton in the day.
Quote from: roadman65 on February 01, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
I am not sure anymore about Trenton, NJ for US 1 Business. Although officially it loops completely, however some signs take it west of the Brunswick Circle on Strawberry Street and then onto Princeton Avenue into Downtown Trenton. If following the signage, it will end abruptly on the Trenton Makes Bridge where it is not signed in PA at all anymore.
US 1 Business is the other way on Strawberry Street from the Circle where it has an interchange with its parent and thus is its official southern terminus.
I'm confused about US 1 business. On Google Maps, it splits from US 1 following the interchange with I-95/I-295 and then follows down Brunswick Avenue... then once it gets to the Brunswick Circle, it heads down Strawberry Street... and then feeds back into US 1? It doesn't even make it into Downtown Trenton, it barely enters the city limits way up north.
The way google has it is correct. NJDOT gets is wrong on their signage. Business US 1 used to be US 1 Alternate and that was signed down Princeton Avenue to the one way pair of Warren Street and Broad Street, then on two way Warren Street, across the Trenton Makes Bridge and onto PA 32 until it ended at its parent in Morrisville.
For some reason NJDOT did not take the signs down when the designation changed over and was truncated, but replaced them all with BUSINESS banners south of the Circle.
In California...
Business I-205 (former US 50) in Tracy has its east terminus at I-5 (also former US 50), north of where I-205 ends at I-5.
Not sure the Business US 101 through Gilroy (not even sure if it still exists) along Monterey Road had a clearly defined northern terminus at any point.
Quote from: Zeffy on February 01, 2014, 02:18:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 01, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
I am not sure anymore about Trenton, NJ for US 1 Business. Although officially it loops completely, however some signs take it west of the Brunswick Circle on Strawberry Street and then onto Princeton Avenue into Downtown Trenton. If following the signage, it will end abruptly on the Trenton Makes Bridge where it is not signed in PA at all anymore.
US 1 Business is the other way on Strawberry Street from the Circle where it has an interchange with its parent and thus is its official southern terminus.
I'm confused about US 1 business. On Google Maps, it splits from US 1 following the interchange with I-95/I-295 and then follows down Brunswick Avenue... then once it gets to the Brunswick Circle, it heads down Strawberry Street... and then feeds back into US 1? It doesn't even make it into Downtown Trenton, it barely enters the city limits way up north.
Business 1 is the former alignment of 1, once most of Trenton Freeway was built. It stayed under state maintenance, and for whatever reason, NJ didn't slap a 1xx over it (could have swapped with the incomplete freeway, if they wanted). It does serve businesses, just not in Trenton.
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 05:09:23 PM
Business 1 is the former alignment of 1, once most of Trenton Freeway was built. It stayed under state maintenance, and for whatever reason, NJ didn't slap a 1xx over it (could have swapped with the incomplete freeway, if they wanted). It does serve businesses, just not in Trenton.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. Maybe it should have been numbered and signed as NJ 101. :)
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 02:53:06 AM
Business I-495 in Lowell MA (or what was ever signed of it)
As I've noted in other posts, Business I-495 in Lowell was NEVER signed as such on any of the BGS panels on either I-495 or US 3, nor were any ground-mounted supplemental panels indicating such placed on the I-495 or US 3 mainlines.
The only evidence of the designation ever having been posted anywhere is when a handful of "Junction Business 495" markers were placed on side streets in Lowell. This was apparently done by MassDPW District forces sometime in the late 1960s. At least one of these signs lasted in to the mid 2000s before it was finally removed.
Quote from: NE2 on January 31, 2014, 10:40:36 PM
On the Goog (2011) I see a TO WEST 64 assembly, which is enough when approaching the end of a business route (it's standard in some states, such as Wyoming IIRC, to use only this type of signage after you pass through downtown).
Yes, this is the standard in Wyoming ... green business loop signs coming into downtown, and TO Interstate xx signs leaving downtown. This standard has slipped a bit in recent years, as I noticed some green Business Loop 80 signs traveling westbound near the I-25 interchange well west of downtown Cheyenne.
Regards,
Andy
There are several business routes I can think of with irregular endings:
Business Loop I-15 in Barstow begins at I-15 L Street interchange and ends at I-40 Exit 1. Route 15 Business is even signed along westbound I-40 prior to the end of I-40 at I-15. Of course now, most of Business Loop I-15 in barstow is signed along with CR 66.
In Spearfish, SD, Business Loop I-90's eastern end appears to be at I-90 Exit 14 (27th St), but there's a random Business Loop I-90 and US 14A sign posted along eastbound Colorado Blvd after the 27th St interchange. I'm guessing this sign is posted because state maintenance may continue a certain distance east of the 27th St interchange.
Prior to its many signs being removed around 2002, Business Loop I-8 (Washington St, Normal St, and El Cajon Blvd) in San Diego ended at SR 163 rather than returning back to I-8 at its western end. There is still a Business Loop I-8 sign posted at northbound 9th Ave connecting to eastbound Washington Street, but I think this is a remnant rather than an intended trailblazer sign at this point.
Business Loop I-25 has an unclear northern end in Buffalo, Wyoming. Signage from I-90 eastbound leads me to believe that Business Loop I-25 begins at I-90 Exit 56A. Signs for Business Loop I-25 begin right at the Exit 56A interchange and continue south along Main Street. So southbound is fairly clear. However, along northbound Business Loop I-25/Main Street, there is a "TO I-25" sign that points east onto US 16 (Hart St) that could be construed to be the continuation of Business Loop I-25 (and there are no Business Loop I-25 signs along northbound Main St after the Hart St intersection).
I think Stranger noted Business I-205 near Tracy; this route is especially interesting because travelers on northbound I-5 have neither access to Business I-205 nor regular I-205. Travelers on I-5 south have connections to both regular I-205 and Business I-205, and there's only about a mile between the I-5 interchanges with I-205 and Business Loop I-205. Having these two interchanges so close together leads drivers to seeing a regular Interstate 205 route marker posted alongside another sign with a Business Loop I-205 route marker on it.
I am certain there are more oddities related to official/signed termini that deviate from their parent routes, but these are the ones I can think of right now. Somehow I suspect there are unusual ends to one or two business loops in Colorado, given that state's unusual termini for various segments of US highways. Milepost 61 may have more to share on that.
Regards,
Andu
Quote from: Zeffy on February 01, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 05:09:23 PM
Business 1 is the former alignment of 1, once most of Trenton Freeway was built. It stayed under state maintenance, and for whatever reason, NJ didn't slap a 1xx over it (could have swapped with the incomplete freeway, if they wanted). It does serve businesses, just not in Trenton.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. Maybe it should have been numbered and signed as NJ 101. :)
You would figure as US 9's old alignment in Toms River is NJ 166 and not a Business US 9. However, it is great to see a US Business route in NJ as that state was lacking in that for decades. US 22 had an alternate in Phillipsburg that is now NJ 122, and recently assigned as it was only changed in the early 90's.
I was hoping that PennDOT would have picked up the designation in Morrisville and connected it to the US 1 Business in Langhorne and Pendell. That might of been the aspiration behind it as US 1 ALT was changed over when the freeway was completed east of Oxford Valley. Instead PennDOT just extended PA 32 over old US 1 ALT thus orphaning NJ's US 1 Business from its parent. Although, US 1 Business got is designation shorter than the old Alternate had, so I really cannot say what's up there.
BTW, NJDOT did incorporate its first Business State Road when the Freehold Bypass completed taking NJ 33 out of Freehold. No 1xx was used at all that is more surprising than this one.
I checked Street View. It appears that Business US 36 connects at the eastern end at Chillicothe, Mo., but does not connect on the western end. It's shown by signage to cross US 65 just north of the four-lane US 36/CKC 110, but the western end dead-ends.
Quote from: andy3175 on February 01, 2014, 11:15:36 PM
Prior to its many signs being removed around 2002, Business Loop I-8 (Washington St, Normal St, and El Cajon Blvd) in San Diego ended at SR 163 rather than returning back to I-8 at its western end. There is still a Business Loop I-8 sign posted at northbound 9th Ave connecting to eastbound Washington Street, but I think this is a remnant rather than an intended trailblazer sign at this point.
The reason for this, based on routing history:
Prior to the construction of what is now I-8, US 80 (which this Business I-8 supplanted) originally followed US 395 (what is now Route 163) south of the El Cajon Blvd/Cabrillo Freeway junction, including the surface street portion of 395 (163) that was reverted to local maintenance in the 1980s, all the way to Harbor Drive/old US 101.
From this US 395 page - http://www.garbell.com/US395-old/395.htm - there's an example of the US 80 route into downtown San Diego along 395 a year before the Cabrillo Freeway opened:
http://www.garbell.com/US395-old/highwayman/SD-CA1947HMG.jpg
By 1959, US 80 had been moved over to today's I-8. Not sure if El Cajon Boulevard at this time was Business US 80 before it became Business I-8.
http://www.johnfry.com/pages/ThomasBrothers1959SDMap.html
I used this example recently in a somewhat related thread. U.S. 50 Business in Pueblo CO has its east terminus about 15 miles east of Pueblo, joining U.S. 50 where it was realigned north of the Arkansas River about 1958. 50 Business follows the original route of 50 west through small valley towns to Pueblo. Theoretically, it should have its west terminus at I-25 exit 100 (U.S. 50 East), then follow I-25 south to a downtown exit and jump to Santa Fe Avenue just west of the freeway. It is not signed, however, north of 4th Street (CO-96), leaving about a 2 mile gap in the route.
QuoteOn the Goog (2011) I see a TO WEST 64 assembly, which is enough when approaching the end of a business route (it's standard in some states, such as Wyoming IIRC, to use only this type of signage after you pass through downtown).
However, NCDOT standard practice is to continue signing it through. That they sign it this way strongly suggests that they consider BUSINESS 64 to end at the New Bern Ave interchange on 440 and not at the 64/264 interchange.
QuoteArkansas doesn't differentiate between US BUsiness Loops or Business Spurs. We've not had any Interstate Business Loops for 30-40 years.
Most states don't differentiate between US Business Loops and Business Spurs, so a lot of the examples cited could be considered the case of a Spur instead of a Loop. The really intruiging ones are the Interstate Business Loops that don't have an end at another Interstate, or the BUSINESS MD 3 example (which has NEITHER end at its parent and even has the southern end at a seemingly random point).
There used to be a Spur Business 80 Cosigned with CA-275 in Sacramento in the past but that no longer exist.
Quote from: roadman65 on February 01, 2014, 11:50:18 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 01, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 05:09:23 PM
Business 1 is the former alignment of 1, once most of Trenton Freeway was built. It stayed under state maintenance, and for whatever reason, NJ didn't slap a 1xx over it (could have swapped with the incomplete freeway, if they wanted). It does serve businesses, just not in Trenton.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. Maybe it should have been numbered and signed as NJ 101. :)
You would figure as US 9's old alignment in Toms River is NJ 166 and not a Business US 9. However, it is great to see a US Business route in NJ as that state was lacking in that for decades.
Oh gee, hey, guess who's wrong? NJ 139 was Business US 1 (and 1/9 before that) until 1988. Business 1 in Trenton was created that same year. There's no gap in coverage, going all the way back to the 1930s when US 1/9 was first routed up to the GWB in tandem.
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BTW, NJDOT did incorporate its first Business State Road when the Freehold Bypass completed taking NJ 33 out of Freehold. No 1xx was used at all that is more surprising than this one.
Yeah, that one was a head-scratcher. NJ 186 was next in line, but they apparently abandoned that line of numbering for good. Old US 322 reverted to county, and old US 206 will do the same in Hillsborough. I don't know of any potential new routes beyond those instances, so can't verify if 33 Business is a new practice or just a one-off.
Quote from: Alps on February 03, 2014, 07:22:46 PM
was a head-scratcher. NJ 186 was next in line, but they apparently abandoned that line of numbering for good. Old US 322 reverted to county, and old US 206 will do the same in Hillsborough. I don't know of any potential new routes beyond those instances, so can't verify if 33 Business is a new practice or just a one-off.
I'm still wondering what they are going to do with US 206 when the bypass is completed - I believe I've read that it will become Hillsborough's "Main Street" (which makes sense given the amount of businesses located on US 206 throughout the township), and it may even spur some new development along the road (for example, near the intersection with Mountain View Rd there is a construction project that is taking an awfully large amount of space which makes me believe more houses or apartment complexes are being built, along with a new road) which Hillsborough could use. The old building that housed KMART that closed a few years ago has still not got new owners - I keep hoping that something new comes to Hillsborough that wouldn't make it such a boring place to live.
Of course, let's get the traffic out of here first.
Quote from: andy3175 on February 01, 2014, 11:15:36 PM
In Spearfish, SD, Business Loop I-90's eastern end appears to be at I-90 Exit 14 (27th St), but there's a random Business Loop I-90 and US 14A sign posted along eastbound Colorado Blvd after the 27th St interchange. I'm guessing this sign is posted because state maintenance may continue a certain distance east of the 27th St interchange.
No, that's not it. It could be due to the imminent rebuild of the interchange when the bridge will get shifted a tad bit east. My theory is that it's a mistake. Signage is horribly rotten on that stretch anyway (wrong-way multiplex), and I wouldn't be surprised if SDDOT didn't even put that sign up (the business loop is city-maintained and signed even worse. There is no reassurance shield heading west/north, and only two (one put up by SDDOT) heading east/south, not counting the erroneous one.) Both 14A shields on the multiplex have the wrong directional banner.
Quote from: US71 on February 01, 2014, 07:05:16 AM
Quote from: NE2 on January 31, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 31, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
I have always thought that business loops have both ends at the parent and business spurs only have one end at the parent. Is this right?
Yes. And Arkansas.
Arkansas doesn't differentiate between US BUsiness Loops or Business Spurs. We've not had any Interstate Business Loops for 30-40 years.
Was I-30B in Little Rock and I-30B in Benton the only ones?
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Augusta has a Bus 64 that is a spur.
I believe, at least according to signage, that US 64B is dual signed with AR 33B to end at US 64. I can't currently check Street View but maybe somebody else can. I think AR 33B also ends at US 64 making it eligible for this thread.
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AR 102 has a Business Route that is a Spur at Centerton (original US 71)
I have yet to see any evidence that this was old US 71. Every source I have seen shows the original US 71 following what is now AR 72 and AR/MO 59.
The brand spanking new US 59B-Z in Laredo, Texas fits this thread. The minute order that created this new business route also extends US 59 by several miles and it is now once again a border to border highway, which is important. The old US 59 petered out about a mile from the border.
Not a business route, but Alternate US 75 in Oklahoma ends at US 66 in Sapulpa according to signage. Officially, it follows OK 66 to I-44 to I-244 to end at the US 75/I-244 interchange. Somebody in the road community claims it ends at the I-44/OK 66 interchange at the beginning of the Turner Turnpike, but I don't know where he got that idea.
Quote from: US71 on February 01, 2014, 07:05:16 AM
Quote from: NE2 on January 31, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 31, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
I have always thought that business loops have both ends at the parent and business spurs only have one end at the parent. Is this right?
Yes. And Arkansas.
Arkansas doesn't differentiate between US BUsiness Loops or Business Spurs. We've not had any Interstate Business Loops for 30-40 years.
Augusta has a Bus 64 that is a spur.
AR 102 has a Business Route that is a Spur at Centerton (original US 71)
Too early to come up with any others.
In Magnolia, AR, US 82B was recently truncated at its junction with US 371 just west of the courthouse square. It used to run concurrent with 371 from there to the US 82 junction northwest of town.
US 79B ends in downtown Magnolia at the intersection of US 82B & AR 355. AR 355 was the original routing of US 79 through the Southern AR Univ. campus to the US 82 junction. From there, you would go straight across on Columbia County 13 all the way to McNeil, where you would take the wye leg to the right and merge with AR 98. A short distance later, you meet up with the current US 79. When you get to this point, you can see where the original US 79 went straight ahead to the railroad overpass.
Quote from: bugo on March 01, 2014, 12:39:19 PM
Was I-30B in Little Rock and I-30B in Benton the only ones?
I've researched this by looking at old maps, and solely from that perspective, those are the only two Interstate business routes ever to be posted in Arkansas. There appear not to have been other Interstate business loops signed from I-40 or I-55 in Arkansas.
Others may have more information.
Regards,
Andy
Quote from: US71 on February 01, 2014, 07:05:16 AM
Quote from: NE2 on January 31, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 31, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
I have always thought that business loops have both ends at the parent and business spurs only have one end at the parent. Is this right?
Yes. And Arkansas.
Arkansas doesn't differentiate between US BUsiness Loops or Business Spurs. We've not had any Interstate Business Loops for 30-40 years.
Augusta has a Bus 64 that is a spur.
AR 102 has a Business Route that is a Spur at Centerton (original US 71)
Too early to come up with any others.
What BL did AR formerly have?
Business Spur I-20 in Florence, SC
Business Spur I-526 in Charleston, SC
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 08, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
Business Spur I-20 in Florence, SC
Business Spur I-526 in Charleston, SC
Well, yeah... cuz they're spurs...
In Fremont, Nebraska, Business US 275 appears to peter out south of the intersection of Bell and Morningside without ever making it back to US 275. OTOH, that's a locally maintained route and it also appears that the shield used resembles the one Iowa uses for US 275 more than the one Nebraska uses.
Quote from: Alps on February 03, 2014, 07:22:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 01, 2014, 11:50:18 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 01, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: Alps on February 01, 2014, 05:09:23 PM
Business 1 is the former alignment of 1, once most of Trenton Freeway was built. It stayed under state maintenance, and for whatever reason, NJ didn't slap a 1xx over it (could have swapped with the incomplete freeway, if they wanted). It does serve businesses, just not in Trenton.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. Maybe it should have been numbered and signed as NJ 101. :)
You would figure as US 9's old alignment in Toms River is NJ 166 and not a Business US 9. However, it is great to see a US Business route in NJ as that state was lacking in that for decades.
Oh gee, hey, guess who's wrong? NJ 139 was Business US 1 (and 1/9 before that) until 1988. Business 1 in Trenton was created that same year. There's no gap in coverage, going all the way back to the 1930s when US 1/9 was first routed up to the GWB in tandem.
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BTW, NJDOT did incorporate its first Business State Road when the Freehold Bypass completed taking NJ 33 out of Freehold. No 1xx was used at all that is more surprising than this one.
Yeah, that one was a head-scratcher. NJ 186 was next in line, but they apparently abandoned that line of numbering for good. Old US 322 reverted to county, and old US 206 will do the same in Hillsborough. I don't know of any potential new routes beyond those instances, so can't verify if 33 Business is a new practice or just a one-off.
I never saw this one before, but to be true US 1 Business in Jersey City was hardly a business route other than on paper. It was hardly ever signed and it was only one route that lasted for years. Yes US 1 Business in Trenton was created that same year the other was decommissioned for good, but it was signed for the first time in years.
NJ 33 Business true may be the only time a business route may be signed for now, but it never got a NJ 17x or NJ 18x like previous routes do.
Just go do your road trips and find some signing punctuation or other signing error to rant about, which is what you do best. If it were not for other people making mistakes or not believing in your ideals you would have nothing to make yourself feel so superior.
Quote from: Kacie Jane on June 08, 2015, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 08, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
Business Spur I-20 in Florence, SC
Business Spur I-526 in Charleston, SC
Well, yeah... cuz they're spurs...
Yes, of course, but the original post merely says "Business Routes." It doesn't say "loops." A business spur is a "business route" in my view, as I consider "route" a generic term incorporating both loops and spurs.
(Heh....autocorrect tried to capitalize "spurs.")
I-19 Business
I: I-19 KM/Exit 75 Sahuarita Rd Sahuarita to I-10 Exit 261 4th Avenue/6th Avenue
II: I-19 KM/Exit 8 Grand Avenue to Mexican Border@ Grand Avenue & International Street - Calle internacional & Plutarco ElÃas calles (MX15)
Not a business route, but US 340A in Harper's Ferry, WV functions as one and physically can't return to US 340 as it terminates at Shenandoah St.
So what is the most usless business route? I would nominate I-40 BL at exit 0 in Glenrio, TX to be high on the list.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on June 08, 2015, 08:59:31 PM
What BL did AR formerly have?
BL 30 in Little Rock/North Little Rock and another BL 30 in Benton. These are the only two that I'm aware of.