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Title: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hbelkins on February 04, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
Inspired by a number of threads currently underway on Freewayjim's Facebook page and someone talking about most important state routes since US routes, 2di's and 3di's are being ranked.

What are the top 10 most important state highways in your state?

This obviously means NOT interstates and NOT US numbered routes, but I'm not sure whether routes like Kentucky's parkways should be included or not. I may do a list with them and without them, because in a list with them, they'd dominate and there'd be few slots left for state-numbered routes.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hotdogPi on February 04, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
Massachusetts:

MA 2
MA 128
MA 3
MA 24
MA 28
MA 146
MA 9
MA 140
MA 12
MA 1A

New Hampshire:

NH 101
NH 16
NH 9
NH 125
NH 28
NH 12
NH 10
NH 112
NH 3A
NH 108
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: PHLBOS on February 04, 2014, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 04, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
Massachusetts:

MA 2
MA 128
MA 3
MA 24
MA 28
MA 146
MA 9
MA 140
MA 12
MA 1A
Given that all of MA 1A is parallel w/US 1 and/or I-95 throughout its entire length; I personally wouldn't include that one.  MA 8 in the western part of the state would be more fitting IMHO.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: empirestate on February 04, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
NY 3
NY 5
NY 9A
NY 12
NY 14
NY 17
NY 27
NY 28
NY 30
NY 104
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hotdogPi on February 04, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: empirestate on February 04, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
NY 3
NY 5
NY 9A
NY 12
NY 14
NY 17
NY 27
NY 28
NY 30
NY 104

22!
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Zeffy on February 04, 2014, 04:24:35 PM
Including Turnpikes / Parkways for New Jersey:

1) New Jersey Turnpike
2) Garden State Parkway
3) NJ 440
4) NJ 29
5) NJ 42
6) NJ 3
7) NJ 17
8) NJ 23
9) NJ 18
10) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)

Without the NJTP and GSP:

1) NJ 440
2) NJ 29
3) NJ 42
4) NJ 3
5) NJ 17
6) NJ 23
7) NJ 18
8) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)
9) NJ 90
10) NJ 495  :sombrero:

Feel free to disagree with me on any (or all) of these here - this is based on my own observations.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hotdogPi on February 04, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
RI 146
RI 138
RI 114
RI 24
RI 10
RI 4
RI 37
RI 78
RI 102
RI 2


For some reason, out of all of these, only 37 is odd.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hobsini2 on February 04, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
Wisconsin, in no particular order with the most important stretch highlighted:

Wis 11 Dubuque IA to Racine
Wis 13 Wis Dells to Ashland
Wis 21 Tomah to Oshkosh
Wis 26 Janesville to Oshkosh
Wis 29 Elk Mound to Green Bay
Wis 30 Madison
Wis 35 Dubuque IA to Superior
Wis 57 Port Washington to Sister Bay
Wis 64 Stillwater MN to Marinette
Wis 172 Green Bay

Honorable mentions:
Wis 16 Tomah to Waukesha
Wis 23 Wis Dells to Sheboygan
Wis 33 La Crosse to Port Washington
Wis 50 Delavan to Kenosha
Wis 60 Spring Green to Grafton
Wis 100 Milwaukee County
Wis 119 Milwaukee
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: jemacedo9 on February 04, 2014, 07:17:39 PM
...as posted in the original Top 10 Important Roads in Your State thread...except I made one change:

(and this is in no particular order):

1.  PA 28
2.  PA 309
3.  PA 56
4.  PA 611
5.  PA 65
6.  PA 51
7.  PA 283
8.  PA 61
9.  PA 33
10.  PA 581

Honorable mentions to PA8, PA 41, PA 100, and PA 462.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Alps on February 04, 2014, 07:39:45 PM
AK 1
AK 2
AK 3
AK 4
AK 5
AK 7
AK 8
AK 9
AK 11
AK 98
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Rover_0 on February 04, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
UT-201
UT-67
UT-154
UT-85
UT-152
UT-71
UT-12
UT-9
UT-20

Honorable mentions: UT-68, UT-10, UT-24, and UT-28.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: corco on February 04, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
Idahooooo is hard:

In no real order:
1. ID 55
2. ID 75
3. ID 16
4. ID 53
5. ID 33
6. ID 44
7. ID 3
8. ID 34
9. ID 8
10. ID 21

but who knows
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: JawnwoodS96 on February 04, 2014, 08:17:43 PM
(In no order)

Pennsylvania

1. 8
2. 611
3. 309
4. 33
5. 28
6. 51
7. 100
8. 283
9. 581
10. 65

Honorable mentions: 228, 31, 3, 462, 43

Maryland

1. 32
2. 200
3. 295
4. 355
5. 2
6. 3
7. 4
8. 5
9. 10
10. 100

Honorable mentions: 129, 140, 26, 24, 97
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: NE2 on February 04, 2014, 08:22:17 PM
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
DC 295
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: tdindy88 on February 04, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
Here's some ones I've come up for Indiana. There's no order to this list (other than numeric order) and there is very much discussion about whether or not some of these are important. I've just based this by looking at a state map and looking for long corridors that seem like they connect a lot of areas or travel a good swath of the state. Very subject to debate.

1) SR 3
2) SR 9
3) SR 25
4) SR 26
5) SR 37
6) SR 46
7) SR 56
8) SR 63
9) SR 66 (Evansville area only, from Mt. Vernon to Boonville)
10) SR 67
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: mukade on February 04, 2014, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
Here's some ones I've come up for Indiana. There's no order to this list (other than numeric order) and there is very much discussion about whether or not some of these are important. I've just based this by looking at a state map and looking for long corridors that seem like they connect a lot of areas or travel a good swath of the state. Very subject to debate.

1) SR 3
2) SR 9
3) SR 25
4) SR 26
5) SR 37
6) SR 46
7) SR 56
8) SR 63
9) SR 66 (Evansville area only, from Mt. Vernon to Boonville)
10) SR 67


I would generally agree with most, but...
- Now that SR 26 is split in Lafayette, SR 32 is a better choice as it goes all the way across the state. Moreover, the western part of SR 26 is a narrow, sub-standard, low traffic road
- SR 56 wanders all over the place so it is not a major route
- SR 62 is the major road west of Evansville to Mt. Vernon. Of the two, SR 62 is more major than SR 66 IMO
- SR 63 is a nice expressway, but it does not carry much traffic

Why not SR 49 (expressway/freeway) in Porter County, SR 331 (expressway in Mishawaka), SR 912 (mainly a freeway in a large urban area), SR 930 (a major road in Fort Wayne)?

Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: tdindy88 on February 04, 2014, 09:53:29 PM
Actually, I did mean to say SR 62, not sure why 66 came out. The highways are just a little confusing there. I included 26 because in was in the NHS and is a major route from Kokomo to Lafayette, but west of there the highway is very lightly traveled. I considered 32 and also 28, as both cross the state and connect several county seats along the way, any of those three could have counted. I'm not sure now why I placed 56, I was probably thinking of the fact that it too connected several county seats from Rising Sun, Vevay, Madison, Scottsburg, Salem, Paoli, Jasper and Petersburg. It can be stricken from the list perhaps. Of the urban ones, I'd put 49 and 912 over the other two, but on a statewide level neither highway does much. That's just my reasoning though, and SR 63 was because people were arguing that US 41/SR 63 should have been among the top 10 highways period in the state. It serves a nice regional route but yes, is a very dead highway in terms of traffic.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Takumi on February 04, 2014, 11:00:52 PM
In no particular order, except maybe the first one
VA 7
VA 143
VA 168
VA 123
VA 27
VA 76
VA 288
VA 267
VA 120
VA 337

Honorable mentions: VA 110, VA 165, VA 170, VA 150, VA 236, VA 237, VA 286, VA 289, VA 294, VA 234, VA 28. Had VA 44 still existed (now I-264 east of Military Circle) it would have made the top 10. Last place: VA 162.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: TheStranger on February 04, 2014, 11:41:28 PM
My (admittedly subjective) California list:

99
1
58
152
91
14
37
41
60
(for now) 210

24 would be honorable mention if I include the much longer 14

A little biased towards urban areas, as 99 and 58 and 1 are the only ones I can think of that maintain their importance across regions.

If 65 is ever completed between Exeter to at least the area east of Chowchilla, I'd easily add that to the list.

Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: SD Mapman on February 04, 2014, 11:57:11 PM
In a somewhat arbitrary order...
SD 34
SD 20
SD 44
SD 79
SD 37
SD 50
SD 42
SD 115
SD 11
SD 53
SD 17
SD 43
SD 73?
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 04, 2014, 11:58:19 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 04, 2014, 04:24:35 PM
Including Turnpikes / Parkways for New Jersey:

1) New Jersey Turnpike
2) Garden State Parkway
3) NJ 440
4) NJ 29
5) NJ 42
6) NJ 3
7) NJ 17
8) NJ 23
9) NJ 18
10) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)

Without the NJTP and GSP:

1) NJ 440
2) NJ 29
3) NJ 42
4) NJ 3
5) NJ 17
6) NJ 23
7) NJ 18
8) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)
9) NJ 90
10) NJ 495  :sombrero:

Feel free to disagree with me on any (or all) of these here - this is based on my own observations.

Again, the lowly Atlantic City Expressway labors in obscurity.

Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: golden eagle on February 05, 2014, 12:34:02 AM
Not sure if I can name the top ten...

MS 15: the only one that runs from the Tennessee border to the Gulf Coast

MS 67: runs from Pascagoula to Waynesboro; important hurricane evacuation route.

MS 25: direct route from Jackson to Starkville & Mississippi State University.

MS 8: one of the few state routes that run from the Alabama line to the Mississippi River. Depending on who you believe, blues guitarist Robert Johnson (according to legend) sold his sold to the devil somewhere near MS 8 (though US 49/61 is the most accepted location).

Ms 607: connects Stennis Space Center to I-10 & 59.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: empirestate on February 05, 2014, 01:52:12 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 04, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Quote from: empirestate on February 04, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
NY 3
NY 5
NY 9A
NY 12
NY 14
NY 17
NY 27
NY 28
NY 30
NY 104

22!

Definitely considered it, but although I love NY 22, I found it's largely redundant to US 9, I-87, and others. If this were the Top 10 for awesomeness rather than importance, it would definitely make the cut.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: dfilpus on February 05, 2014, 09:28:01 AM
NC:
NC 12
NC 16
NC 24/27
NC 42
NC 49
NC 50
NC 55
NC 58
NC 87
NC 150

North Carolina is tough, since all of the original through state highways were converted to US Highways. Many of the remaining long state highways just wander all over the state.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hbelkins on February 05, 2014, 10:16:22 AM
Kentucky, with the parkways, in order:

1.) Western Kentucky Parkway
2.) AA Highway (KY 9/portion of KY 10)
3.) Mountain Parkway/KY 114 (one corridor)
4.) KY 80/Cumberland Parkway/Hal Rogers Parkway (one corridor)
5.) Pennyrile Parkway
6.) KY 15
7.) KY 55
8.) Bluegrass Parkway
9.) KY 90
10.) KY 61

Without the parkways:

1.) AA Highway (KY 9/portion of KY 10)
2.) KY 80
3.) KY 15
4.) KY 55
5.) KY 90
6.) KY 61
7.) KY 114
8.) KY 461
9.) KY 11
10.) KY 4
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on February 05, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
Here's some ones I've come up for Indiana. There's no order to this list (other than numeric order) and there is very much discussion about whether or not some of these are important. I've just based this by looking at a state map and looking for long corridors that seem like they connect a lot of areas or travel a good swath of the state. Very subject to debate.

1) SR 3
2) SR 9
3) SR 25
4) SR 26
5) SR 37
6) SR 46
7) SR 56
8) SR 63
9) SR 66 (Evansville area only, from Mt. Vernon to Boonville)
10) SR 67


I guess my criteria would be state routes that connect 2 major cities, or a major city with several minor cities, without having a US/Interstate highway as an alternative:

2: South Bend-LaPorte-Valpo (could call the Toll Road an alternative but it's not direct and of course not free)
3: Muncie-New Castle-Greensburg-North Vernon
25: Warsaw-Rochester-Logansport-Lafayette
26: Lafayette-Kokomo
37: Indy-Bloomington-Bedford
46: Terre Haute-Bloomington-Columbus-Greensburg
56: Scottsburg-Madison-Vevay-Rising Sun
62: Madison-Jeffersonville, Mt Vernon-Evansville-Boonville
63: Lake County-Terre Haute (with US 41)
67: Indy-Martinsville-Vincennes

I guess roads like 49, 331, 912, 930, 931 and 933 didn't make my cut because they mostly carry traffic within a county than between counties, and this is coming from somebody who has logged an awful lot of miles on 331.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: pianocello on February 05, 2014, 11:48:12 AM
In no particular order,

IA 163
IA 330
IA 2
IA 3
IA 9
IA 92

After this, it gets kinda difficult. I covered the E-W corridors, and most of the N-S ones are covered by US highways. For the remaining 4, I would probably go with:
IA 5
IA 141
IA 14
IA 150
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 05, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
Quote

Without the NJTP and GSP:

1) NJ 440
2) NJ 29
3) NJ 42
4) NJ 3
5) NJ 17
6) NJ 23
7) NJ 18
8) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)
9) NJ 90
10) NJ 495  :sombrero:

Feel free to disagree with me on any (or all) of these here - this is based on my own observations.

90?

I'd put 55 in its place.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hotdogPi on February 05, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
VT 9
VT 103
VT 30
VT 12
VT 100
VT 102
VT 11
VT 15
VT 105
VT 14

(Without that 9 at the top of the list, this might not look like base 10!)

CT 15
CT 8
CT 2
CT 9
CT 66
CT 25
CT 10
CT 12
CT 72
CT 11
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: bugo on February 05, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
Arkansas:

AR 1
AR 5
AR 7
AR 8
AR 9 (notice a trend?)
AR 10
AR 22
AR 14
AR 23
AR 16

Honorable mention: AR 74

Oklahoma:

OK 3
OK 51
OK 99
OK 33
OK 9
OK 152
OK 82
OK 11
OK 8
OK 10

Honorable mentions: OK 77S, OK 63A
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Charles2 on February 05, 2014, 08:12:57 PM
Alabama:

1) SR-59: Main route connecting I-65 in Baldwin County with Gulf Shores and Orange Beach.  Try driving it in the summer!
2) SR-5: Before I-65 was completed it, it was the main route connecting Birmingham with Mobile (via U.S. 43 from Thomasville); north of Birmingham, the route is nowhere near as important
3) SR-10: the only signed state route that goes from state line to state line (Mississippi to Georgia)
4) SR-150: Connects the Birmingham suburbs of Hoover and Bessemer, has seen tremendous commercial, residential and institutional growth since the late '80's
5) SR-20: Connects the Florence/Muscle Shoals metro with Decatur
6) SR-157: Most direct connecting route from Birmingham to Florence/Muscle Shoals (via I-65 from Birmingham to Cullman)
7) SR-21: the longest state route in Alabama, extends from the Florida state line near Atmore to just short of the Georgia state line in the NE part of the state; the caveat against including this route would be that the only major cities in the state that it travels through are Montgomery and Anniston.
8) SR-255: bypass around the west and north sides of Huntsville
9) SR-152: although it is largely unsigned, this is the northeast segment of the bypass around Montgomery
10) SR-180 & SR-182: east-west routes around and through Gulf Shores and Orange Beach.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: theline on February 05, 2014, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on February 05, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 04, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
Here's some ones I've come up for Indiana. There's no order to this list (other than numeric order) and there is very much discussion about whether or not some of these are important. I've just based this by looking at a state map and looking for long corridors that seem like they connect a lot of areas or travel a good swath of the state. Very subject to debate.

1) SR 3
2) SR 9
3) SR 25
4) SR 26
5) SR 37
6) SR 46
7) SR 56
8) SR 63
9) SR 66 (Evansville area only, from Mt. Vernon to Boonville)
10) SR 67


I guess my criteria would be state routes that connect 2 major cities, or a major city with several minor cities, without having a US/Interstate highway as an alternative:

2: South Bend-LaPorte-Valpo (could call the Toll Road an alternative but it's not direct and of course not free)
3: Muncie-New Castle-Greensburg-North Vernon
25: Warsaw-Rochester-Logansport-Lafayette
26: Lafayette-Kokomo
37: Marion-Indy-Bloomington-Bedford
46: Terre Haute-Bloomington-Columbus-Greensburg
56: Scottsburg-Madison-Vevay-Rising Sun
62: Madison-Jeffersonville, Mt Vernon-Evansville-Boonville
63: Lake County-Terre Haute (with US 41)
67: Muncie-Anderson-Indy-Martinsville-Vincennes

I guess roads like 49, 331, 912, 930, 931 and 933 didn't make my cut because they mostly carry traffic within a county than between counties, and this is coming from somebody who has logged an awful lot of miles on 331.
I like both lists, though maybe the one from cabiness more. You forgot some major cities from your routes that bolster your argument more. I've added them, in bold.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: DTComposer on February 06, 2014, 01:35:54 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 04, 2014, 11:41:28 PM
My (admittedly subjective) California list:

99
1
58
152
91
14
37
41
60
(for now) 210

24 would be honorable mention if I include the much longer 14

A little biased towards urban areas, as 99 and 58 and 1 are the only ones I can think of that maintain their importance across regions.

If 65 is ever completed between Exeter to at least the area east of Chowchilla, I'd easily add that to the list.

I would remove 37, 60 and 210, which are important within their regions, but not as much statewide, and all have viable parallel highways. I might consider 86 and 299, maybe 198 or 108. If I was sticking to regional routes that don't have viable parallel routes, maybe 17 or 57.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Buck87 on February 06, 2014, 08:22:02 AM
In numeric order

OH 2
OH 3
OH 4
OH 7
OH 8
OH 11
OH 21
OH 32
OH 126
OH 315
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: TheStranger on February 06, 2014, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: DTComposer on February 06, 2014, 01:35:54 AM

I would remove 37, 60 and 210, which are important within their regions, but not as much statewide, and all have viable parallel highways. I might consider 86 and 299, maybe 198 or 108. If I was sticking to regional routes that don't have viable parallel routes, maybe 17 or 57.

What would you consider to be a viable parallel alternate to 37 - 580?  12 is a bit far north to serve much of the Bay Area.

I'd probably think of 120 instead of 108 for a Yosemite/Central Valley route of importance, though 108 does serve Modesto...

While 299 and 86 do serve a large area geographically, not sure either one is around enough of a population to be notably important - but I can see the argument for those routes too, given their lengths.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: bzakharin on February 06, 2014, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 05, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
Quote

Without the NJTP and GSP:

1) NJ 440
2) NJ 29
3) NJ 42
4) NJ 3
5) NJ 17
6) NJ 23
7) NJ 18
8) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)
9) NJ 90
10) NJ 495  :sombrero:

Feel free to disagree with me on any (or all) of these here - this is based on my own observations.

90?

I'd put 55 in its place.

I agree about 55, but if you're going to include 90, you need to include 73 too. It's almost impossible to go anywhere in NJ from 90 without using 73. Also, I'd include NJ 24 somewhere in there.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: DTComposer on February 06, 2014, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 06, 2014, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: DTComposer on February 06, 2014, 01:35:54 AM

I would remove 37, 60 and 210, which are important within their regions, but not as much statewide, and all have viable parallel highways. I might consider 86 and 299, maybe 198 or 108. If I was sticking to regional routes that don't have viable parallel routes, maybe 17 or 57.

What would you consider to be a viable parallel alternate to 37 - 580?  12 is a bit far north to serve much of the Bay Area.

I know the traffic on 37 justifies its importance, but I also think that, other than traffic between the termini themselves (Vallejo-Novato) most other traffic has a reasonable alternative. Fairfield (and beyond)-Novato (or in the other direction, Santa Rosa/Petaluma-Vallejo) can use 12/121, Martinez/Concord-Novato (or in the other direction, San Rafael-Vallejo) can use 4/580, etc.

Quote from: TheStranger on February 06, 2014, 11:46:14 AM
I'd probably think of 120 instead of 108 for a Yosemite/Central Valley route of importance, though 108 does serve Modesto...

I could agree with that - I picked 108 since it goes all the way through the Sierras as a state highway (120 officially ends/restarts at the Yosemite borders), and (I may be wrong here) 108 is less likely to be closed during the winter than 120.

Quote from: TheStranger on February 06, 2014, 11:46:14 AM
While 299 and 86 do serve a large area geographically, not sure either one is around enough of a population to be notably important - but I can see the argument for those routes too, given their lengths.

I picked 299 since it connected Eureka/North Coast/Redwood Country (including the logging and fishing industries) to the Interstate system (maybe more people use 36?), and 86 since it connected two fast growing areas (Coachella Valley and Imperial Valley) to the Interstates.

Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 06, 2014, 02:42:18 PM

Quote from: bzakharin on February 06, 2014, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 05, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
Quote

Without the NJTP and GSP:

1) NJ 440
2) NJ 29
3) NJ 42
4) NJ 3
5) NJ 17
6) NJ 23
7) NJ 18
8) NJ 139 (IF it counts due to it being in close proximity to I-78)
9) NJ 90
10) NJ 495  :sombrero:

Feel free to disagree with me on any (or all) of these here - this is based on my own observations.

90?

I'd put 55 in its place.

I agree about 55, but if you're going to include 90, you need to include 73 too. It's almost impossible to go anywhere in NJ from 90 without using 73. Also, I'd include NJ 24 somewhere in there.

I thought about 55 when reading that list, then realized it required a whole discussion about what qualifies as "important" and didn't. 

55 is a non-duplicated primary route, even if it serves relatively sparsely popluated areas for NJ (admittedly just about the only part of NJ I haven't been to).  I would include it before 24 because 24 users have more alternatives, even if their numbers are greater. 

I'm not familiar with 90.  I'd put 94 out there for debate by the same logic as 55, though.

But there's no real compelling reason to choose one set of guidelines for inclusion over the other, so, yeah.   
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: bzakharin on February 06, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 06, 2014, 02:42:18 PM
I thought about 55 when reading that list, then realized it required a whole discussion about what qualifies as "important" and didn't. 

55 is a non-duplicated primary route, even if it serves relatively sparsely popluated areas for NJ (admittedly just about the only part of NJ I haven't been to).  I would include it before 24 because 24 users have more alternatives, even if their numbers are greater. 

Re 55: It is heavily used (along with NJ 47) during the summer by shore traffic
Re both: I think the existence of traffic jams during rush hour is a pretty good metric (for freeways, anyway). Both 24 and 55 get these every day. By this metric 24 should be ahead of 55, since more of it is jammed.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: mrsman on February 07, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 04, 2014, 11:41:28 PM
My (admittedly subjective) California list:

99
1
58
152
91
14
37
41
60
(for now) 210

24 would be honorable mention if I include the much longer 14

A little biased towards urban areas, as 99 and 58 and 1 are the only ones I can think of that maintain their importance across regions.

If 65 is ever completed between Exeter to at least the area east of Chowchilla, I'd easily add that to the list.

Seven of these routes were former US highways.  US 99, ALT US 101, US 466, US 91, US 6, US 60, and US 66.

Your list is good, but I would also replace 37, 60, 91, and 210 for 120, 49, 86, and 198.  120 is a main connector Bay Area - Yosemite.  49 provides a routing through the historic mines in gold country, and 86 provides access to Imperial County.  198 is a great east-west road across the state.  37, 60, 91, and 210 are regionally important, but not state-wide important, expecially when I-10 parallels three of these routes.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: OCGuy81 on February 07, 2014, 01:12:50 PM
I'd add 17 to the California list.  It's short, but it's a vital link from the Bay Area to the coastal areas of Santa Cruz, Monterrey, and Carmel.

The rest of those are a pretty solid list.  Maybe 299 is worth an add too.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: JCinSummerfield on February 07, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
My look at Michigan:

1. M-28
2. M-35
3. M-5
4. M-6
5. M-1
6. M-72
7. M-66
8. M-55
9. M-52
10. M-115
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 07, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 06, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 06, 2014, 02:42:18 PM
I thought about 55 when reading that list, then realized it required a whole discussion about what qualifies as "important" and didn't. 

55 is a non-duplicated primary route, even if it serves relatively sparsely popluated areas for NJ (admittedly just about the only part of NJ I haven't been to).  I would include it before 24 because 24 users have more alternatives, even if their numbers are greater. 

Re 55: It is heavily used (along with NJ 47) during the summer by shore traffic
Re both: I think the existence of traffic jams during rush hour is a pretty good metric (for freeways, anyway). Both 24 and 55 get these every day. By this metric 24 should be ahead of 55, since more of it is jammed.

Personally, NJ 90 may not even qualify for a top 20 spot.  It's AADT is around 25k a day between the Betsy Ross Br & 73, while NJ 73 between the Tacony Bridge & 90 is approaching 40k a day. 

This is partially due to the toll bridges.  The Tacony bridge is only a $2 toll, whereas the Betsy Ross Bridge is a $5 toll.  If you took out the entire Betsy Ross/NJ 90 corridor, it would strain, but not break, other corridors and bridges.

The 2 lane (per direction) Rt. 55 should be widened to 3 lanes per direction between 42 & 322.  It's quite common to struggle to maintain the speed limit during some rush hours.   Unfortuantely, the area's politicians are hellbent on spending $2 billion on a light rail line through the area, which would minimally reduce congestion.

Someone I missed 73 & 70.  At least one of them could be a top 10 route as well.

My upset pick for NJ would be NJ 140.  After all, how would anyone get to the truck stops for their last chance at cheaper fuel before leaving the state!!!
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Brandon on February 07, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on February 07, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
My look at Michigan:

1. M-28
2. M-35
3. M-5
4. M-6
5. M-1
6. M-72
7. M-66
8. M-55
9. M-52
10. M-115

I'd replace M-6 with M-102.  Eight Mile Road is very important, and not just as a road.

Here's my list for Illinois in no particular order (and probably biased toward the northern half of the state):

IL-47: busy route through the far western suburbs of Chicago and down to the Champaign area.
IL-37: so important that an interstate (I-57) was built to replace it instead of along a US highway.
IL-29: carries the bulk of I-180 traffic to/from Peoria.
IL-83: Kingery Highway.
IL-53: freeway up north, replaced by I-355 in the middle, old US-66 down here.
IL-116: seems strange, but this route connects the state east to west via Pontiac and Peoria.
IL-13: across the populated part of the far south.
IL-15: parts were US-460 and important enough I-64 was built to parallel it.
IL-16: east to west across the middle of the state including Charleston (EIU) and Mattoon.
IL-59: might not seem important at first, but it is THE major route through NW Will County, western DuPage County, and north.  It was supposed to have been replaced by a freeway (Fox Valley Freeway).
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hbelkins on February 07, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
You forgot 110 and 336.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: Rupertus on February 08, 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: Brandon on February 07, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on February 07, 2014, 01:35:42 PM
My look at Michigan:

1. M-28
2. M-35
3. M-5
4. M-6
5. M-1
6. M-72
7. M-66
8. M-55
9. M-52
10. M-115

I'd replace M-6 with M-102.  Eight Mile Road is very important, and not just as a road.

From an overall traffic perspective, the two most important ones are M-10 and M-39.
Title: Re: Top 10 most important state routes in your state
Post by: hobsini2 on February 08, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 07, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Here's my list for Illinois in no particular order (and probably biased toward the northern half of the state):

IL-47: busy route through the far western suburbs of Chicago and down to the Champaign area.
IL-37: so important that an interstate (I-57) was built to replace it instead of along a US highway.
IL-29: carries the bulk of I-180 traffic to/from Peoria.
IL-83: Kingery Highway.
IL-53: freeway up north, replaced by I-355 in the middle, old US-66 down here.
IL-116: seems strange, but this route connects the state east to west via Pontiac and Peoria.
IL-13: across the populated part of the far south.
IL-15: parts were US-460 and important enough I-64 was built to parallel it.
IL-16: east to west across the middle of the state including Charleston (EIU) and Mattoon.
IL-59: might not seem important at first, but it is THE major route through NW Will County, western DuPage County, and north.  It was supposed to have been replaced by a freeway (Fox Valley Freeway).

I would also consider IL 1, 2, 3, 17, 394.