My wierd roadgeek mind started thinking about this: what are some examples of city or town names ending with the abbreviation of their state?
Here are some I have thought of:
Adak; Aniak; Emmonak; Kodiak, AK (there are a few others I left out)
Santa Monica; Manteca, CA
Frisco, CO
Dahlonega, GA
Albany, NY
Aliquippa, PA
Others???
Coincidentally, I came across one yesterday where the inclusion of the state abbreviation was intentional: Claycomo, MO (located in Clay County, MO). I suppose that also makes it a little redundant.
Is this the only example that's also intentional?
Kenova. before 1862, that is.
Pfaffl, FL
Alan, AN
Okay, OK
Tennga, GA
Illmo, MO
Brookside, DE
Reva, VA
Quote from: NE2 on March 12, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
Pfaffl, FL
Alan, AN
Okay, OK
Tennga, GA
Illmo, MO
bzzt, wrong. Okay is not in Aysen Region, Chile, and we all know that the two-letter postal abbreviation for Alanland is GOAT.
If Canada is included, there are a lot in Ontario.
Hamilton
Burlington
Princeton
Brampton
Milton
In the United States:
Rome (you can figure out the state)
Quote from: 1 on March 12, 2014, 03:11:28 PM
Rome (you can figure out the state)
Well, it sure as hell isn't Rome, Wisconsin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picket_Fences).
Quote from: Brandon on March 12, 2014, 03:27:19 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 12, 2014, 03:11:28 PM
Rome (you can figure out the state)
Well, it sure as hell isn't Rome, Wisconsin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picket_Fences).
I was thinking of Rome, New York... :bigass:
Quote from: 2Co5_14 on March 12, 2014, 01:05:02 PM
My wierd roadgeek mind started thinking about this: what are some examples of city or town names ending with the abbreviation of their state?
Here are some I have thought of:
Adak; Aniak; Emmonak; Kodiak, AK (there are a few others I left out)
Santa Monica; Manteca, CA
Frisco, CO
Dahlonega, GA
Albany, NY
Aliquippa, PA
Others???
Pacifica, CA
Mattawa, WA
Bayou Goula, LA
Catahoula, LA
Creola,LA
Olla, LA
Ponchatoula, LA
La Paz, AZ...if ghost towns and counties count.
Austin, IN
Franklin, IN
Quote from: 1 on March 12, 2014, 03:11:28 PM
If Canada is included, there are a lot in Ontario.
Hamilton
Burlington
Princeton
Brampton
Milton
I'm surprised that you didn't include Boston in your above-list. :sombrero:
Here's one I'm surprised nobody thought of yet:
Philadelphia, IA
Quote from: briantroutman on March 12, 2014, 01:15:02 PM
Coincidentally, I came across one yesterday where the inclusion of the state abbreviation was intentional: Claycomo, MO (located in Clay County, MO). I suppose that also makes it a little redundant.
Is this the only example that's also intentional?
Off NE2's list, Tennga and Illmo look pretty intentional to me. :)
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 13, 2014, 11:46:08 AM
Here's one I'm surprised nobody thought of yet:
Philadelphia, IA
Umm... because it doesn't exist? (If you could prove me wrong, that would be awesome)
Albia, IA does, though.
Nome, AK
Rome, GA
Delmar, DE & MD (funny even though created from the two states it is in it has another state thousands of miles away)
Quote from: roadman65 on March 15, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
Nome, AK
Rome, GA
Delmar, DE & MD (funny even though created from the two states it is in it has another state thousands of miles away)
It has to end with the state it's in.
Normal, AL (home to Alabama A&M University).
For Connecticut: Prospect and...good question!
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
No common words in English end with the letter j or the letter v.
If you want to use the long abbreviation, there's Florala, Ala.
Quote from: 1 on March 15, 2014, 09:23:48 PM
No common words in English end with the letter j or the letter v.
only one I can think of offhand is "hajj" and that is definitely an import.
Found one! ---> Rome, ME in Kennebec County
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome,_Maine
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on March 15, 2014, 10:38:37 PM
Just thought of an obvious example: ALBANY, NY.
Read the first post.
Morning Star, AR
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.N.P.J.,_Pennsylvania
I don't think I'll bother looking for Texas examples....
A less open-ended question would be how many states this exists for. Down the list, we've got so far:
Normal, AL
Kodiak, AK
Morning Star, AR
La Paz, AZ
Manteca, CA
Frisco, CO
Prospect, CT
Brookside, DE
FL - ?
Tennga, GA
Puhi, HI
Philadelphia, IA
ID - ?
Franklin, IN
Virgil, IL
St. Marks, KS
KY - ?
Bayou Golla, LA
MA - none incorporated
MD - ?
Rome, ME
MI - none incorporated
MN - ?
Claycomo, MO
Fort Adams, MS
MT - ?
NC - ?
ND - ?
Wayne, NE
NH - ?
NJ - ?
NM - ?
NV - ?
Albany, NY
OH - ?
Skiatook, OK
OR - ?
Aliquippa, PA
RI - none incorporated
SC - ?
SD - ?
TN - ?
TX - ?
Hideout, UT
Reva, VA
VT - ?
Mattawa, WA
WI - ?
WV - ?
WY - ?
A few more look promising but some of the question marks are obvious nos.
Potatoid, ID
Quote from: Duke87 on March 16, 2014, 12:38:27 PM
Puhi, HI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puhi,_Hawaii)
Wayne, NE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne,_Nebraska)
No CDPs in MA, MI, RI end with the state abbreviation.
None in Kansas--the closest is Weskan (Kan. being an old-style abbreviation).
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 16, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
None in Kansas--the closest is Weskan (Kan. being an old-style abbreviation).
St. Mark's, along 29th North southwest of Colwich. The church is St. Mark but the school is St. Mark's, and USGS omits the apostrophe to get St. Marks.
There's also Rooks County.
Ghost towns include Brooks (http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/b/brooks.html), Point Rocks (http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/p/point_rocks.html), and Sparks (http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/s/sparks.html).
Virgil, IL
Quote from: 1 on March 15, 2014, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
No common words in English end with the letter j or the letter v.
"judge" should but doesn't; the beginning of the word even sets a precedent.
Quote from: 1 on March 15, 2014, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
No common words in English end with the letter j or the letter v.
Those that
should end with
-(d)ge or
-ve, which strangely enough for English, is mostly consistent between words.
Quote from: 1 on March 15, 2014, 09:23:48 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
No common words in English end with the letter j or the letter v.
Improv? Perv? Shiv?
Quote from: kurumi on March 16, 2014, 03:44:15 PM
"judge" should but doesn't; the beginning of the word even sets a precedent.
I see what you did there.
Updated above post, also added Skiatook, OK and Hideout, UT
Fort Adams, MS
Alabama, MA (it's where they posted those signs)
Katama, MA
Kenberma, MA
Wyoma, MA
It's hard to prove a negative.
Quote from: NE2 on March 16, 2014, 01:36:40 PMQuote from: J N Winkler on March 16, 2014, 01:23:29 PMNone in Kansas--the closest is Weskan (Kan. being an old-style abbreviation).
St. Mark's, along 29th North southwest of Colwich. The church is St. Mark but the school is St. Mark's, and USGS omits the apostrophe to get St. Marks.
There's also Rooks County.
Ghost towns include Brooks (http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/b/brooks.html), Point Rocks (http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/p/point_rocks.html), and Sparks (http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/archives/1912/s/sparks.html).
Points taken--I didn't extend the search past incorporated municipalities. In regard to St. Mark, there is conflicting evidence. GNIS has both church and populated place as "Saint Marks" (registration dates of 1978 for town, 2008 for church), but the church website (http://stmarkcolwich.org/) gives it as St. Mark. The church itself, which was built using limestone salvaged from the Wichita Watch Factory (a failed 1870's/1880's attempt to establish the town as a world center for watchmaking), is on the National Register of Historic Places and as such has a Wikipedia stub article. The NPS' NRHP database isn't coming up for me at the moment, but the Wikipedia article uses the form without final
s. Facebook has a place page (possibly autogenerated from GNIS) for "Saint Marks," but YP.com has "St. Mark." The KDOT map for Sedgwick County has "St. Marks" for the town and "St. Mark's Cem." for the cemetery behind the church (where at least a dozen of my ancestors are buried).
In regard to Texas, I don't know of any CDPs that end in the two-letter postal abbreviation, but a Google search on {Andratx, TX} comes up with interesting placename results.
There's also this local business (http://www.carlincars.com/Directions.htm) that uses St. Mark's.
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 16, 2014, 06:01:11 PM
In regard to Texas, I don't know of any CDPs that end in the two-letter postal abbreviation, but a Google search on {Andratx, TX} comes up with interesting placename results.
Looks like bogus results, perhaps from Majorca being both the island that Andratx is on and a restaurant in Houston?
Quote from: NE2 on March 16, 2014, 05:15:33 PM
Katama, MA
Kenberma, MA
Wyoma, MA
It's hard to prove a negative.
None of these are incorporated places, so they aren't "City/town names" in the strictest sense. Since the list of incorporated places in any state is finite, it is easy to prove a negative for that simply by searching the list for the letter combination in question.
This is a meta question, but what resources are people using to identify CDPs in particular states?
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 16, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
This is a meta question, but what resources are people using to identify CDPs in particular states?
Wikipedia has lists. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_census-designated_places_in_Oklahoma
Although this does not include the contents of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Oklahoma (where my example came from), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_in_Oklahoma
Got another:
New England, ND
Quote from: pianocello on March 15, 2014, 03:02:52 PMUmm... because it doesn't exist? (If you could prove me wrong, that would be awesome)
Oops. I didn't see the last line in the OP mentioning that the city/town
had to be in the same state as its last 2-letters. That's what I get for only glancing & typing too fast.
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
I'm going to assume that nowhere in the US does a city/town end with 'NJ'. Actually, does any word end with J?
East Oranj!
Quote from: Duke87 on March 16, 2014, 10:38:46 PMQuote from: J N Winkler on March 16, 2014, 09:08:50 PMThis is a meta question, but what resources are people using to identify CDPs in particular states?
Wikipedia has lists. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_census-designated_places_in_Oklahoma
Although this does not include the contents of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Oklahoma (where my example came from), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_in_Oklahoma
Thanks for this. I did some digging and discovered that Wikipedia doesn't have CDP listing pages for all states--for example, one doesn't exist for Kansas (the closest approximation being a category page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Census-designated_places_in_Kansas)). However, the Census makes cartographic boundary files (http://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/cbf/cbf_place.html) available for all states and the distribution for each state includes a DBF file which appears to be a complete listing of all CDPs and incorporated communities in that state.
When I downloaded the file for Kansas, I was rather surprised to discover that St. Mark(s) is not even classified as a CDP.