In the Philippines (yay international content! :sombrero:) the names of cities are usually "City of [X], [Province]", and then we just call them "[X] City", e.g. Baguio City, Cebu City, or just the name if there's no need to clarify. I know of two exceptions: "City of Manila" or "Manila", never "Manila City"; and "Quezon City" or "City of Quezon", never just "Quezon".
But apparently in the US, some cities have names that have the word "City" in them. Like, "Oklahoma City". To me that would be short for "City of Oklahoma", but apparently not. It's "City of Oklahoma City[, Oklahoma]".
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Are there any other cities that are like this? Kansas City comes to mind.
Jefferson City, maybe?
(New York and Québec both have "city" optional, but most people use it.)
EDIT: Carson City.
How about "village"? As in Village of Elk Grove Village, Illinois. :bigass:
City of Dallas City, Illinois
Village of Coal City, Illinois
City of Calumet City, Illinois
Village of Central City, Illinois
Future City, Illinois (unincorporated)
City of Granite City, Illinois
Yes, a place can be called "city" at the end and still be considered a village (government type, not related to size) in Illinois.
City of Atlantic City, NJ
City of Jersey City, NJ
City of Sea Isle City, NJ
City of Ocean City, NJ
In New Jersey, municipality type always follows the name of the municipality - so Trenton is Trenton City, Newark is Newark City, etc. I don't know of any places in New Jersey that have 'City' in the name that aren't classified as a New Jersey city.
Quote from: 1 on March 12, 2014, 02:59:17 PM(New York and Québec both have "city" optional, but most people use it.)
Same with Baltimore locally, to distinguish it from Baltimore County.
Maryland City (unincorporated), Maryland
Town of Ocean City, Maryland
Charles City (unincorporated), Virginia, which is the county seat of Charles City County
Atlantic City!
don't forget Kansas City, KS and MO
Quote from: Big John on March 12, 2014, 05:08:18 PM
don't forget Kansas City, KS and MO
Quote from: sammi on March 12, 2014, 02:53:59 PM
Are there any other cities that are like this? Kansas City comes to mind.
My favorite Texas example is probably Gun Barrel City!
Junction City, KS
Dodge City, KS
Polk City, FL
Dade City, FL
Panama City, FL
Carson City, NV
Redwood City, CA
Salt Lake City, UT.
The western part of Gadsden Alabama is called by locals "Alabama City" as it was one time a separate city before it was annexed by Gadsden.
California City, CA.
Virginia has Chase City, Gate City, Weber City, and Dale City, and Stephens City. All are towns, except for Dale City, which is unincorporated. There are also all of the independent cities, but none of them have "city" in their name aside when saying "City of X".
Texas City, TX
Phenix City, AL
Everglades City, FL
Florida City, FL
Garden City, KS
Since it seems that language wasn't specified: Indianapolis, Annapolis, Minneapolis
In Michigan, we have the following official names, among others:
- Village of Mackinaw City
- City of Traverse City
- City of the Village of Clarkston
- City of the Village of Douglas
Carson City, NV, while already mentioned, is a bit different than most. It is also the County of Carson City, or Carson City County, or Carson County... It is one of the City/County routines like San Francisco - the CC of SF.
Wisconsin:
Buffalo City
Cuba City
Fountain City
Genoa City
Glenwood City
Louisiana:
City of Bossier City
City of Morgan City
Town of Amite City
Town of Oil City
Village of Junction City
Bridge City is a census designated place (CDP)
Quote from: roadman65 on March 12, 2014, 06:38:43 PM
Everglades City, FL
Which is officially the City of Everglades.
Quote from: 1 on March 12, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
Jefferson City, maybe?
(New York and Québec both have "city" optional, but most people use it.)
EDIT: Carson City.
I would dispute this about New York. It's not "optional;" the official name of the city is New York or, the City of New York, never New York City. It is called New York City in order to distinguish from the State of New York, or as it is commonly referred to here, New York State.
Delaware City, DE
Gloucester City, NJ
Plant City, FL
Siler City, NC
Johnson City, TN
Cave City, KY
Kingdom City, MO
Pine City, MN
Lake City, MN
Minnesota City, MN
Cannon City, MN
Hager City, WI
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Hager City, WI
Technically an unincorporated "census-designated place."
Oregon City, OR
Garden City, ID
Lincoln City, OR
Pacific City, OR (just a CDP)
Bay City, OR
Plum City, WI
Canon City CO
Brigham City UT
We have a city styled Town of Watertown, that periodically gets officially referenced as the City of the Town of Watertown.
And then we have Montague City, a sneeze-and-miss-it unincorporated CDP.
Silver City, MI - which is neither a city, nor a village, nor apparently not even anything but a recognized place name. (Google converts it to "Carp Lake", the township name?)
Do Indianapolis and Minneapolis count? ;-)
Cambridge City, IN
Clay City, IN
Gas City, IN
Hartford City, IN
Parker City, IN
Rome City, IN
Ironically, even the largest of these "Cities" has less than 6,500 residents.
Don't forget New Jersey's smallest city: Corbin City. Population: 492.
Others City names with "City" in NJ (And all 4 have populations under 12,000):
Egg Harbor City
Margate City
Ventnor City
Quote from: Zeffy on March 12, 2014, 03:30:47 PM
City of Atlantic City, NJ
City of Jersey City, NJ
City of Sea Isle City, NJ
City of Ocean City, NJ
In New Jersey, municipality type always follows the name of the municipality - so Trenton is Trenton City, Newark is Newark City, etc.
I don't think that's true. Newark is "City of Newark" in all their legal definitions, for example.
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 13, 2014, 07:38:35 AM
Cambridge City, IN
Clay City, IN
Gas City, IN
Hartford City, IN
Parker City, IN
Rome City, IN
Ironically, even the largest of these "Cities" has less than 6,500 residents.
Michigan City has 30,000.
California ones not mentioned yet:
Amador City
Cathedral City
Crescent City
Culver City
Daly City
King City
National City
Nevada City
Sand City
Suisun City
Temple City
Union City
Yuba City
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 13, 2014, 08:09:16 AM
I don't think that's true. Newark is "City of Newark" in all their legal definitions, for example.
Oops, I meant that NJDOT refers to them as such in the SLD as found here:
http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000280__-.pdf
MP 11.00-14.00 lists 'Newark City'.
Quote from: 1 on March 12, 2014, 02:59:17 PM(New York and Québec both have "city" optional, but most people use it.)
The "Québec City" name (with or without the diacritic) actually has no official status at all. English speakers only use it to remove the confusion. French does not have that problem, as they're distinguished by the use of different prepositions ("Ã " vs. "au" / "in" vs. "in the [province of]").
City of Grove City, Ohio
Some others from Tennessee:
Cumberland City
Iron City
Ashland City
Mountain City
Union City
Tracy City
Lenoir City
Bluff City
In Mississippi:
Calhoun City
Michigan City
Minter City
Morgan City
Silver City
Yazoo City
There used to be a Mississippi City, but it was annexed by Gulfport in 1965.
Quote from: Doctor Whom on March 12, 2014, 05:42:39 PM
Salt Lake City, UT.
What's the deal with this, generally, in Utah? I feel as though "City" can be legitimately appended to any city's name, but only in some cases has become common parlance: Sandy [City], West Valley City, Bountiful [City], Salt Lake City, Brigham City. I have a vague recollection of seeing an official map with "City" appended to every city name on it, which had made me wonder about this ever since.
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Quote from: Doctor Whom on March 12, 2014, 05:42:39 PM
Salt Lake City, UT.
What's the deal with this, generally, in Utah? I feel as though "City" can be legitimately appended to any city's name,
Certainly not in Ohio.
Quote from: Zeffy on March 12, 2014, 03:30:47 PMIn New Jersey, municipality type always follows the name of the municipality - so Trenton is Trenton City, Newark is Newark City, etc. I don't know of any places in New Jersey that have 'City' in the name that aren't classified as a New Jersey city.
This is how databases, tax lists, etc., list municipal names. I have generally assumed this is just to make clear the distinction between, say, boroughs and townships that share the same name (which hardly matters, since there are plenty of both with duplicates) and not an official naming convention.
Different municipalities officially style their names differently. With six Washingtons, for example — at least three of them townships — the one in Bergen is styled "Township of Washington" to distinguish itself from the other "Washington Townships." The funny thing is that it is almost universally referred to locally as "Washington Township" (or even just "the Township," since it's the only municipality in that area that anyone distinguishes as being a township anymore).
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Quote from: empirestate on March 18, 2014, 03:01:21 AM
What's the deal with this, generally, in Utah? I feel as though "City" can be legitimately appended to any city's name,
Certainly not in Ohio.
Well, that would be why I said "in Utah". ;-)
Quote from: bulldog1979 on March 12, 2014, 10:37:36 PM
In Michigan, we have the following official names, among others:
- Village of Mackinaw City
- City of Traverse City
- City of the Village of Clarkston
- City of the Village of Douglas
I wasn't aware of the Michigan cities with "Village of" in their name. That's bizarre.
City of the Village of Grosse Point Shores
City of Orchard Lake Village (just to be backwards)
A lot of the signs for Walker say "City of Walker, City Limits", but thankfully, it's
not the City of City of Walker. It's just poor sign design.
Quote from: getemngo on March 20, 2014, 02:36:22 AM
City of the Village of Grosse Point Shores
It's even more bizzare... their legal name is "Village of Grosse Pointe Shores, A Michigan City", but I would use the format you used... Someone should standardize Grosse Pointe Shores, Clarkston and Douglas to a more normal naming convention.
Quote from: citrus on March 13, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
California ones not mentioned yet:
Amador City
Cathedral City
Crescent City
Culver City
Daly City
King City
National City
Nevada City
Sand City
Suisun City
Temple City
Union City
Yuba City
Verdugo City, which is actually a part of Glendale, is one in California. Also Big Bear City.
In Arizona, there is Sun City, Sun City West, Sun City Grand and Sun City Festival, all within a few miles of each other. I'll bet that's a nightmare for the post office! There's also Lake Havasu City, Bullhead City, Tuba City and Black Canyon City.
In Hawaii, a suburb of Honolulu is called Pearl City.
Along with the aforementioned Grove City, Ohio also has Tipp City. I don't think I saw Junction City, Kentucky mentioned. Most of the Indiana ones have been mentioned.
Junction City, OR. Where U.S. 99 split. ;-)
One of the pieces of junkmail that I recently tossed had a White City, OR (http://goo.gl/maps/LmnOL) address.
It's worth noting that there's also a White City, FL (http://goo.gl/maps/qZPZ2) and a White City, KS (http://goo.gl/maps/PPOi7). I confess, that I only discovered the latter two while typing White City, OR on Google Maps.
Bridge City, TX
Johnson City, TN and TX
Jersey Village, TX
Baytown, TX
Fredricksburg, TX
Halletsville, TX
Colorado City, TX
Canyon City, TX
Missouri City, TX
Floresville, TX
Beeville, TX
Brownsville, TX
Always City of Industry, CA. Is the legal name the City of The City of Industry?
Burlington, VT
Also Texas City
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 27, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
Also Texas City
Yeah, but that one had been mentioned in the thread already.
Aw shoot. Hadn't read back in a while. Thanks.
Quote from: sammi on March 27, 2014, 02:27:44 PM
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Burlington, VT
That doesn't have City in it...
Not city, but what does the suffix ton mean?
I think I said "city", not "to(w)n".
That's cool. Now rip all the other people who have posted on this thread who used "Village" while you get on to me for using town. There were several posts using village so I am not cool with being singled out here.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 27, 2014, 02:31:12 PM
That's cool. Now rip all the other people who have posted on this thread who used "Village" while you get on to me for using town. There were several posts using village so I am not cool with being singled out here.
Fine, "town" counts. So do "village", "township" and "-polis". :)
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Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 27, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
Burlington, VT
That doesn't have City in it...
Not city, but what does the suffix ton mean?
I think I said "city", not "to(w)n".
That's cool. Now rip all the other people who have posted on this thread who used "Village" while you get on to me for using town. There were several posts using village so I am not cool with being singled out here.
Hell, if we include the "ton" suffix, we'd need to include "berg", "burg", "bourg", "boro", and "ville" as well. I think the suffixes should be excluded and we should only include them if "city", "village", "boro or borough", and "town" appear separate from the municipal name, i.e. "Texas City", "Elk Grove Village", "Charles Town", etc.
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Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 27, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
Burlington, VT
That doesn't have City in it...
Not city, but what does the suffix ton mean?
I think I said "city", not "to(w)n".
That's cool. Now rip all the other people who have posted on this thread who used "Village" while you get on to me for using town. There were several posts using village so I am not cool with being singled out here.
It's not quite the same. You didn't use " Town", a separate word, but "ton", a suffix. A suffix in a proper name is more easily overlooked than a separate word. One may argue that once Burlington officially acquired its name, it was no longer "Burling town" but simply Burlington, a word to be treated as a unit not meant to be broken apart and parsed. One may also argue that this happens even with separate-word names like Grove City, but I think this effect is weaker when the city word remains a separate word.
On the other hand, I think someone already pointed out cities using the "ton" suffix, but as I recall that person also explained in that post why the example fits the topic, avoiding reader confusion.
In summary: nobody's completely right, nobody's completely wrong, everybody please chill.
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Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 27, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
Burlington, VT
That doesn't have City in it...
Not city, but what does the suffix ton mean?
I think I said "city", not "to(w)n".
That's cool. Now rip all the other people who have posted on this thread who used "Village" while you get on to me for using town. There were several posts using village so I am not cool with being singled out here.
It's not quite the same. You didn't use " Town", a separate word, but "ton", a suffix. A suffix in a proper name is more easily overlooked than a separate word. One may argue that once Burlington officially acquired its name, it was no longer "Burling town" but simply Burlington, a word to be treated as a unit not meant to be broken apart and parsed. One may also argue that this happens even with separate-word names like Grove City, but I think this effect is weaker when the city word remains a separate word.
On the other hand, I think someone already pointed out cities using the "ton" suffix, but as I recall that person also explained in that post why the example fits the topic, avoiding reader confusion.
In summary: nobody's completely right, nobody's completely wrong, everybody please chill.
I completely agree, but since a poster used Indianapolis as an example (a 100% fake name with a Greek suffix that is also one word) and all was okay with it, I just followed suit and put in Burlington, since it's translation is Burling Town. Then it is not okay. All is good and I will abide by the rules from now on.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 27, 2014, 02:49:33 PMI completely agree, but since a poster used Indianapolis as an example (a 100% fake name with a Greek suffix that is also one word) and all was okay with it, I just followed suit and put in Burlington, since it's translation is Burling Town. Then it is not okay. All is good and I will abide by the rules from now on.
But I posted Indianapolis and Minneapolis with a winking smiley, indicating they weren't serious entries.
Quote from: GaryV on March 30, 2014, 07:54:53 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 27, 2014, 02:49:33 PMI completely agree, but since a poster used Indianapolis as an example (a 100% fake name with a Greek suffix that is also one word) and all was okay with it, I just followed suit and put in Burlington, since it's translation is Burling Town. Then it is not okay. All is good and I will abide by the rules from now on.
But I posted Indianapolis and Minneapolis with a winking smiley, indicating they weren't serious entries.
Someone else also used it as a serious answer.
Quote from: Brandon on March 27, 2014, 02:38:18 PMHell, if we include the "ton" suffix, we'd need to include "berg", "burg", "bourg", "boro", and "ville" as well. I think the suffixes should be excluded and we should only include them if "city", "village", "boro or borough", and "town" appear separate from the municipal name, i.e. "Texas City", "Elk Grove Village", "Charles Town", etc.
I realize this may be a bad time, but I was hoping to add Hart's Location, NH, to the list.
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