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Title: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: bugo on March 20, 2014, 04:18:57 AM
The new Arkansas 530 south of Pine Bluff ends at I-530 (which is also US 63-65-79).  This is not a continuation of the same number - I-530 goes in both directions from the end of AR 530.  Does this happen anywhere else?
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Mapmikey on March 20, 2014, 07:30:00 AM
VA 360's east end does this with US 360.

From 1933-47 VA 29 did this as well.

On paper VA 33 did this with US 33 for 3 months of 1981 in Richmond

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on March 20, 2014, 07:47:13 AM
In Indiana:

I-265 and IN 265 end at each other (once the bridge is finished, the part that is IN 265 will become I-265)

IN 64 ends at I-64
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: NE2 on March 20, 2014, 07:52:37 AM
SR A1A ends at US 1 many times. For about a year the former was SR 1.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: froggie on March 20, 2014, 08:01:56 AM
QuoteI-265 and IN 265 end at each other (once the bridge is finished, the part that is IN 265 will become I-265)

This is a "continuation of the number", as noted by the OP.  What he's looking for is, basically, where the same number is going in 3 directions from the same junction.  Your I-64/IN 64 example fits.


While I don't recall it being fully signed, Kandiyohi CSAH 23 crosses MN 23 in Willmar, MN.  Not too far away, MN 7 and Kandiyohi CSAH 7 cross west of Prinsburg, MN.   Pretty sure there are other Minnesota examples of county routes intersecting a state route with the same number.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: roadman65 on March 20, 2014, 08:30:45 AM
US 281, by signage only, seems to end at itself in the Rio Grande Valley.  Just south of I-2, the roadway does reach its true southern terminus with E-W US 281 going both ways and a spur Texas SH leading ahead into Mexico.

Although, technically US 281 turns left to go east as US 281 west of that intersection is really US 281 SPUR.   However, as far as signs in the field goes its like US 281 intersecting US 281.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 20, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
routes that end at themselves: here is one in Norway.

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also, I believe MA-127 used to be shaped like a "Q", and there is a Quebec route that does the same.

Australia's highway 1 is even more complex than a Q.

many Mexico routes are signed on all major arterials through a city.  MX-2 through Tecate comes to mind: just about every east-west route through town is signed as MX-2.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: SD Mapman on March 20, 2014, 09:38:29 AM
SD and Wyoming don't have any number duplication... so I can't help you there.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on March 20, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 20, 2014, 09:19:54 AMalso, I believe MA-127 used to be shaped like a "Q", and there is a Quebec route that does the same.

QC-132, if I'm not mistaken.

The whole R motorway series in Spain. All of them end at their A counterpart.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: bzakharin on March 20, 2014, 12:52:14 PM
Delaware route 202 ends at US 202. There may be others in that state. Why would states keep the number of an old alignment of a road? It's extremely confusing.

NJ does not duplicate numbers, so the only way this can happen is with county routes. Wikipedia claims that Monmouth County Route 36 ends at NJ 36, but https://www.google.com/maps/@40.433967,-74.118289,3a,37.5y,241.41h,84.8t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1smNVNTzZ-wUfScTky1auaQQ!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.433967,-74.118289,3a,37.5y,241.41h,84.8t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1smNVNTzZ-wUfScTky1auaQQ!2e0) implies that CR 36 continues along Thompson Ave. past it.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: getemngo on March 20, 2014, 03:23:43 PM
In Michigan, nothing exists currently, but M-24, M-25, M-112, and M-131 used to all end at the US highways of the same number, many of them serving as an extension. None of them happened "accidentally"; the numbers were chosen on purpose.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Big John on March 20, 2014, 04:41:28 PM
Milwaukee, I-794 ends where WI 794 continues on the same roadway.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: NE2 on March 20, 2014, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: bugo on March 20, 2014, 04:18:57 AM
This is not a continuation of the same number
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Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Eth on March 20, 2014, 05:44:33 PM
US 25's southern end is at GA 25 (and US 17).
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Duke87 on March 20, 2014, 10:01:40 PM
In New York, NY 787 ends at I-787 and is not technically a continuation because I-787 ends at the east end of the NY 7 bridge over the Hudson River, not at this interchange.

Similarly, NY 690 and NY 890 technically end at I-690 and I-890 without being continuations thereof, because each of those interstates also include the ramps to the Thruway and end at the Thruway mainline, not at the junction with the state highway on the other side of the toll plaza.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: hotdogPi on March 20, 2014, 10:04:13 PM
Does Route x ending at xth St. count?
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: corco on March 20, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
Montandra 287 ends at US 287

Arizona 95 ends at US 95

Wyoming 89 ends at US 89

QuoteWyoming don't have any number duplication... so I can't help you there.

Sure it do, WYO 14, WYO 89, WYO 90 among others
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on March 20, 2014, 10:56:12 PM
Ramsey County (MN) Road 10 ends at U.S. 10 on the north side of the Twin Cities. County 10 is the old alignment for U.S. 10. 
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: national highway 1 on March 20, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: corco on March 20, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
Montandra 287 ends at US 287

Arialveticverstesk...?
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Doctor Whom on March 21, 2014, 04:57:36 AM
I-295 and DC 295 used to be an example before the routing of I-695 was changed.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: froggie on March 21, 2014, 07:17:12 AM
Another Minnesota example I forgot:  Freeborn CSAH 35 crosses, and has an interchange with, I-35 near Geneva.

Going to Illinois:  did IDOT renumber IL 88 to IL 40 at the same time that IL 5 became I-88, or did that come later?
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: SD Mapman on March 21, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
Quote from: corco on March 20, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
Wyoming 89 ends at US 89
QuoteWyoming don't have any number duplication... so I can't help you there.
Sure it do, WYO 14, WYO 89, WYO 90 among others
Doh! Forgot about that one... I guess it doesn't help to be more of an eastern Wyoming guy. (and I've never heard of WY 14 and WY 90)
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: roadman65 on March 21, 2014, 11:28:27 AM
FL 17 at US 17 in Haines City, FL.

US 25 ends at GA 25 in Brunswick, GA.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Brandon on March 21, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
Quote from: froggie on March 21, 2014, 07:17:12 AM
Another Minnesota example I forgot:  Freeborn CSAH 35 crosses, and has an interchange with, I-35 near Geneva.

Going to Illinois:  did IDOT renumber IL 88 to IL 40 at the same time that IL 5 became I-88, or did that come later?

Yes.  Even if IL-88 were not renumbered, neither would've ended at the other.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Rover_0 on March 21, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: corco on March 20, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
Montandra 287 ends at US 287

Arizona 95 ends at US 95

Wyoming 89 ends at US 89

QuoteWyoming don't have any number duplication... so I can't help you there.

Sure it do, WYO 14, WYO 89, WYO 90 among others

But WYO-89 doesn't end at US-89...there's that brief bit in Idaho that's (I believe) ID-61.

Doesn't mean that I think the WYO-89/UT-16/UT-30/(US-30)/ID-61 route shouldn't have a single number, though.

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Utah doesn't have number duplication anymore, but it did before 1977, and you had UT-15 (now UT-9) ending at I-15. There's even an advanced exit picture for UT-15 hanging around (which I can't seem to dig up right now).
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: sammi on March 21, 2014, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on March 20, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
QC-132, if I'm not mistaken.
That's the one. Came up in trivia last night.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: Molandfreak on March 22, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10676.0
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: bugo on March 22, 2014, 12:17:01 PM
I should have clarified, but I was thinking of highways with different designations but the same number, such as I-30 and US 30 or US 56 and state highway 56.
Title: Re: Roads that end at roads with the same number
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on March 22, 2014, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: sammi on March 21, 2014, 05:04:39 PM
That's the one. Came up in trivia last night.

I would take part in a trivia night... If it wasn't trivia overnight for me! (It normally starts at 3 a.m. CET the following day)