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In this photo taken along US 22 Wesbound in Bridgewater, NJ at its interchange with North Bridge Street, is shows them featuring the two forthcoming interchanges, but ignoring the one mentioned on the LGS under the overpass.
Not only is this one ignored, but NJDOT seems to forget that "Somerville" is used as a control city for US 22 WB from Newark westward. This exit for North Bridge Street is WB US 22's only exit for Somerville and therefore should get a better mention then being treated as second class like NJDOT did with their signing.
When was this photo taken? I could've sworn there is now an LGS for Somerville before this ramp? Found it!
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Oh yes this one you have is (or was) there back in 09 when I took this and when was there in 12 a few years later.
True, it does pre-guide you to it with this assembly, but it is odd that they would exclude it on the overhead that is within that particular interchange. Most places would include it. In fact many would place Commons Way and the US 202/206 concurrency on one panel with distance numbers to it. In fact I would do it that way if I were in charge of the sign.
I think it was an oversight when the Commons Area of Bridgewater was built (when the overhead was erected in 88) as the engineers were worried about the modified US 22 & US 202/206 interchange with the new Mall back then.
This is how I would sign it.. (or re-sign it using current NJDOT methods...)
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I see this one all the time. Exit 40 comes first. (I-287 NB)
Quote from: Alps on April 28, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
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I see this one all the time. Exit 40 comes first. (I-287 NB)
My guess would be that they figure more traffic is looking for I-80 over CR 511, but that doesn't make it right to skip the exit.
Exit 95 on US-101 southbound (Los Patos Way) in Santa Barbara receives no mention on any signage - only the EXIT sign in the gore point. Advance signs skip from Milpas Street to Cabrillo Blvd./Hot Springs Road.
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I see this one all the time. Exit 40 comes first. (I-287 NB)
PennDOT did similar in 2001 when it replaced a 3-downward arrow
95 NORTH Philadelphia pull-through BGS w/a 3-1/2 mile advance BGS for Exit 13 (http://goo.gl/maps/fOLck). Exits 10 and 12 comes first (I-95 NB).
The BGS swap was part of a signing project for the new direct-access ramp from I-95 NB to PHL as well as the relocation of the Departures Roadway ramp to accomodate for the then-new Terminal A-West.
Personally, the above-BGS change was completely unnecessary IMHO.
Some of the exit ramps on I-80 between Exits 1 & 4 in New Jersey have little or no signage. I believe that Hainesville Road which is a hook intersection on the WB side has no guide signs in advance for it. It is just signed with a LGS in the gore of the exit.
In addition there are u turn interchanges between Exits 1 and 4 that could use some sort of signing as well that only have the typical NJDOT U Turn signs in the gore of the ramps for that as well with the exception of the EB U Turn directly east of the Delaware River Bridge has a LGS in its gore with a directional guide for straight through I-80 saying "Dover- New York" but not even a U Turn in that diverge. The U turns are important as they allow for missing movements of nearby interchange ramps like EB I-80 missing a ramp to Exit 1 uses that first EB u turn as means to access the Millbrook exit.
There is this gantry (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.952325,-84.51652,3a,75y,183.54h,93.15t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sU7q-RA6ElUFPtCXw1-7Qkg!2e0) on I-75 southbound which mentions the next exit, 263, but then ignores exits 261 (Delk Rd/SR 280) and 260 (Windy Hill Rd) in favor of a nearly five-mile advance warning for I-285 at exit 259.
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 29, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
PennDOT did similar in 2001 when it replaced a 3-downward arrow 95 NORTH Philadelphia pull-through BGS w/a 3-1/2 mile advance BGS for Exit 13 (http://goo.gl/maps/fOLck). Exits 10 and 12 comes first (I-95 NB).
Looks like the shift key didn't work for the 'i' in EXIT on the lane drop panel. :spin:
NYSTA gives Thruway Exit 50A (Erie CR 141/Cleveland Dr) the shaft, despite coming before Exit 50 (I-290): http://goo.gl/maps/bbRcJ
NJ: The new Exit 1B, I-295 North, 1 mile Exit sign on NJ 42 North comes before any mention of the Creek Rd Exit slightly before it.
DE: 95 North: The 95/495 & 295/NJ Tpk signs are posted prior to signage for the DE 141 Exit which comes first.
Quote from: Zeffy on April 30, 2014, 11:23:36 AMLooks like the shift key didn't work for the 'i' in EXIT on the lane drop panel. :spin:
That particular BGS has been there since 1992 and in all the times I've seen it (I reside about 3 miles from this interchange); I never noticed that oversight until you mentioned it.
I have an old film pic of that gantry from Nov. 2000 (when the I-95 North pull-through BGS was still present). I'll have to re-examine that pic to catch that lower-case
i.
Michigan example: westbound I-94 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.277037,-84.358207,3a,75y,271.64h,91.61t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saDFuQ2WRoGQkUXowUweEdA!2e0) at US 127 South (Exit 142) also has a sign for US 127 North (Exit 138) in 3.5 miles, which skips over exits 141 and 139. Actually not too bad of an idea to prevent motorist confusion.
Airline Highway (US 61-190), Baton Rouge. There is little or no advance signage for the cloverleaf interchanges, particularly LA 37.
Quote from: Zeffy on April 30, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 29, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
PennDOT did similar in 2001 when it replaced a 3-downward arrow 95 NORTH Philadelphia pull-through BGS w/a 3-1/2 mile advance BGS for Exit 13 (http://goo.gl/maps/fOLck). Exits 10 and 12 comes first (I-95 NB).
Looks like the shift key didn't work for the 'i' in EXIT on the lane drop panel. :spin:
Imagine a stuck shift-key typo that made it all the way to the field:
JCT I-$(%
@ MILES
Quote from: getemngo on May 02, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
Michigan example: westbound I-94 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.277037,-84.358207,3a,75y,271.64h,91.61t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saDFuQ2WRoGQkUXowUweEdA!2e0) at US 127 South (Exit 142) also has a sign for US 127 North (Exit 138) in 3.5 miles, which skips over exits 141 and 139. Actually not too bad of an idea to prevent motorist confusion.
Same idea, different place along I-88 westbound (https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.797512,-88.300703&spn=0.004647,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.797514,-88.300607&panoid=ybtScc0q0N8dJ6ROk6Vexw&cbp=12,271.91,,0,2.83) at IL-56.
Do auxiliary ramps count for this discussion? (i.e. the ramp to Q Street in Sacramento off of the ramp that carries Route 99 between US 50 and I-5, or the ramp to Alemany Boulevard off of the ramp from US 101 south to I-280 south in San Francisco)
Quote from: Zeffy on April 26, 2014, 11:09:23 AM
When was this photo taken? I could've sworn there is now an LGS for Somerville before this ramp? Found it!
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Wish I could get to N Bridge St
Quote from: texaskdog on May 05, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
Wish I could get to N Bridge St
N Bridge St was cut into half by US 22. One instance is in Bridgewater while the other is in Somerville.
NJ does that a lot with intersections being replaced with interchanges. The divided highway median break where the road crosses is sealed and the intersection is made into a RIRO. That is what North Bridge Street is with US 22. The actual overpass is really a connector roadway between the two segments of North Bridge Street on the east end of the intersection.
What is interesting is that you can also get to the Bridgewater section of North Bridge Street by taking the second turn for Somerville as well going WB on US 22.
Then back on subject we have some interchange ramps ignored on FL 528/ FL A1A in Port Canveral, FL. The EB exit for FL 401 is signed for it, but substandard compared to the A Side of Port Canveral which used FL 401 to access its berths. The Canaveral A Side has large overhead signs erected all along EB FL 528 & SB FL A1A for miles, but the main guide for FL 401 is ground mounted on smaller signs thus making the state route and its destination of the Canaveral AFS almost non existent compared to the Port Docks and Cruise Ship signage.
FL 401 is a dead end highway that ends at the gate to Canaveral AFS and used mostly by Air Force Personnel and NASA employees, while the Canaveral A Side is a major cruise ship port patronized by many cruise line passengers, so it is more important to list the Port guides than the road guides here. However, I still think that both could be accomplished just by rearranging the info on all the guides and would be if it were an interstate route.
On I-10 in Florida, there is some distant advance signage for Exit 356 (I-295), ahead of Exit 355. However, this makes sense because Exit 356 is with an interstate.
I got a closer look at the PA 420 exit BGS off I-95 North yesterday. Apparently, that is not a lower-case i in that yellow EXIT ONLY banner but rather a yellow reflective square that was placed over the upper-case I.
Why such was done is beyond me. Maybe a contractor was playing a joke back in late 2000/early 2001 when the pull-through BGS was replaced with the current 3-1/2 mile advance BGS for Exit 12 (overkill & unnecessary IMHO but nonethesless) or it was done when one of the BGS lightbulbs was replaced later on.
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 19, 2014, 06:11:31 PM
I got a closer look at the PA 420 exit BGS off I-95 North yesterday. Apparently, that is not a lower-case i in that yellow EXIT ONLY banner but rather a yellow reflective square that was placed over the upper-case I.
Seriously? Wow, that's not even a possibility that popped into my head...