The Clinched Highway Mapping Project now supports the ~8000-mile Trans-Canada Highway and pieces of various Future Interstate highways. Travelers can now track their travels on these highways as well as the full Interstate and US Highway systems of the United States and the provincial freeway systems of Ontario, Quebec, and Nova Scotia in Canada.
Clinched Highway Mapping Site
http://cmap.m-plex.com/ (http://cmap.m-plex.com/)
Tracking your travels is easy. We present a long list of mappable highways with over 90000 waypoints in the Highway Browser. You make a text list of the segments of highways you've traveled, using our route and waypoint labels, and submit it. We then convert your text file into a web site of maps and tables summarizing your travels, at no cost.
Here is an example map, now showing FI-99 and FI-376 in Pennsylvania for one traveler. His travels are highlighted in deep blue and red. Click on the map to see the stats table summarizing the mileage clinched for each highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fuser%2Fexample.pa.gif&hash=ea00355eaba116266c03a8b35c4e68ef8a27ff7d) (http://cmap.m-plex.com/user/terescoj/terescoj.pa.html)
We have a project forum that you may join:
http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/ (http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/)
As clinching a highway or highway system means to travel the entire length of it, we have striven to include every highway in the systems we support, including well over 1000 auxiliary routes of the US' Interstate and US Highway systems. Our collaboration of road enthusiasts-turned-geodata miners tackles the difficult task of keeping current with the various additions/deletions/changes to the highways. We encourage road enthusiasts to help us with this task by joining our forum.
So you mean I've been tracking this in a kmz file all this time for nothing? :pan:
I didn't notice y'all had US business routes now. Time to update my map! :p
There goes the rest of my afternoon and probably evening.
Thanks for the continued excellent work on this!
You guys are all welcome. hehehe. I've spent many sleepless nights getting routes finished for the states I did in the project.
Clinching or collecting the data? ;)
Quote from: Bickendan on June 27, 2009, 11:03:41 PM
Clinching or collecting the data? ;)
Hahaha. Getting the data. ;)
Trying to make me feel a bit guilty, James? Sometimes I have been surprised at 9am to see 3-4am replies from my fellow collaborators in my same time zone.
Our collaboration is comprised of these wonderful individuals, many of whom are contributors also to this forum:
Eric Bryant (yakra)
Dave Filpus (dfilpus)
Ryan Fox (boy_asunder)
Adam Froehlig (froggie)
Michael Maggio (mcmagi)
James Mast (rickmastfan67)
Jeff Morrison (jeffm)
Dan Schwarting
Christopher Steig (bickendan)
Andrew Tompkins (andytom)
In a few months, I'll be opening the door for new highway systems to be added to the project. These would include state or provincial highways in the US and Canada as well as the freeway systems of other countries (Utah state routes, German Autobahns, etc.). We'll need new collaborators to help us complete any new systems. Join our project forum (in my signature) if you think you'd be interested in helping out.
Quote from: treichard on June 27, 2009, 11:48:53 PM
Trying to make me feel a bit guilty, James? Sometimes I have been surprised at 9am to see 3-4am replies from my fellow collaborators in my same time zone.
HAHAHA. Nope. ;) I'm just more of a night owl when I feel like it. ;)
Just an FYI to the people that have an account on the site, we're running a poll on what browsers people use to visit the site. The reason it's being done is because we're trying to figure out if we should start making the graphics for the shields in PNG format (which look 10x better than the GIF format) or in GIF format from now on and we need to know what browsers to the site the majority of you use to prevent any major problems.
Thanks. :cool:
http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=368&mforum=clinched (http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=368&mforum=clinched)
are you planning on using the alpha channel in the PNGs? That is, if I recall correctly, the one problem IE6 has with them.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 09, 2009, 08:48:04 PM
are you planning on using the alpha channel in the PNGs? That is, if I recall correctly, the one problem IE6 has with them.
Yep. That would be it. Tim thinks people still be using IE6 to view the site, but I honestly don't think they would be because they wouldn't be able to load up the Google Maps anyways since all those images are PNG as well.
EDIT: Tim says his web-logs say that 1 out of every 5 people use IE5/6 to visit the site... :pan: :ded: :banghead:
EDIT #2: Tim just finally gave the go ahead to PNG shields, so that poll is meaningless now. :) So, if you guys want to see the first batch of PNG shields on the site, target date is this weekend with Ontario. :)
My computer is still on IE 6 and absolutely refuses to download IE 8. :screwed: :banghead:
Quote from: florida on July 29, 2009, 01:48:33 AM
My computer is still on IE 6 and absolutely refuses to download IE 8. :screwed: :banghead:
Ever think of downloading the IE-8 installer manually then? :)
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx)
That just might work. :) There is always a backdoor way to get things to work. ;)
Quote from: florida on July 29, 2009, 01:48:33 AM
My computer is still on IE 6 and absolutely refuses to download IE 8. :screwed: :banghead:
As a Mac and Unix user who has successfully and very happily avoided Windows for over 10 years now, maybe I'm missing something. But why not just install Firefox?
Quote from: Jim on July 29, 2009, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: florida on July 29, 2009, 01:48:33 AM
My computer is still on IE 6 and absolutely refuses to download IE 8. :screwed: :banghead:
As a Mac and Unix user who has successfully and very happily avoided Windows for over 10 years now, maybe I'm missing something. But why not just install Firefox?
I'm pretty sure that Firefox 2 displays PNG files just fine.
maybe he's afraid it might void the warranty (or its a company computer and the company only allows IE6 - some still do :pan:)
Moderator: Could the off-topic IE and PNG discussion be split into its own thread elsewhere? I'd like to return this thread to its original purpose in the near future: updates to the Clinched Highway Mapping site. Thanks!
Quote from: treichard on August 08, 2009, 12:01:56 AM
Moderator: Could the off-topic IE and PNG discussion be split into its own thread elsewhere? I'd like to return this thread to its original purpose in the near future: updates to the Clinched Highway Mapping site. Thanks!
done.
Nothing changed...
Tim, the forum's down atm.
Quote from: Bickendan on August 09, 2009, 04:15:13 PM
Tim, the forum's down atm.
whois says that the domain (bizhat.com) is suspended. That can't be good.
Two (interim) solutions: We get a forum here or I can put up a relevant section on my own board.
Tim, PM me if that idea works if Bizhat doesn't come back up.
It's back up now.
Still down on my end. Must not have propagated through.
Back to site update announcements, the original point of this thread!
Two new highway systems have been added:
- Ireland Motorways, including a major increase in motorway mileage effective just two days ago when many motorways were officially extended or newly designated,
- Northern Ireland Motorways
Travels on these highways can now be mapped and tallied along with several highway systems in the USA and Canada.
Clinched Highway Mapping
http://cmap.m-plex.com/ (http://cmap.m-plex.com/)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fimages%2Firem.gif&hash=d7651d88d75e7cbbf9c0cceba2807f34712b5050)
We're working on Great Britain Motorways and a bunch of US state and Can. provincial highways for future updates.
What exactly does the "Added new stats pages and new mapping" update mean?
He's revised the individual traveler's stats pages to a new format, along with maps.
It only just starting showing up for me about a minute ago, and the site hasn't fully changed yet on my end. Am I going to have to update any links to my page or will this be automatic later on?
From my point of view as the web site developer, today's update was HUGE and is over 4 months of work converting most of the site to a database-driven framework to make future expansion much easier to deal with and overhauling the design of most (but not all) of the web pages. This weekend I deleted about 46000 web pages and map images, and the site is better than before.
From the viewpoint of the typical person browsing the site, some web pages are a different color now and a few new highways they've never ridden on have popped up.
And there are a few more options for how to display the maps of clinched highway's on a user's page now.
Is it possible to smooth them out? For some reason the highways seem to look uneaven/choppy.
I've added the highway data for the Great Britain Motorways (http://cmap.m-plex.com/stat/travsystem.php?sys=gbnm&du=mi&sort=pd). These highways can now be marked as clinched.
We again have maps showing the fraction of our travelers who have clinched each highway segment. Our few Great Britain travelers have clinched the highways shown in orange:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fgbnm.gif&hash=67aac7ac6bcb290391f89ea0adb99e069bd6fbc9)
Additionally, several hundred US city/town insets have been added to the Map View lists. You can now zoom in and see your travels in Greensboro, NC, for example:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fgre_nc.gif&hash=e7cf3d1214d78434f855ae4969efb8fd1d506772)
The highway data for the Oregon State Highways, the Yukon Territorial Highways and Northwest Territories Territorial Highways have been added as clinchable.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fcentermap.php%3Fu%3Dalltrav%26amp%3Bsys%3Dall%26amp%3Bc%3Dusa%26amp%3Breg%3Dor%26amp%3Bmv%3D0&hash=5b5d6adeb40fcb64ad5a488fdf38f6c92c7a8bba)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fcentermap.php%3Fu%3Dalltrav%26amp%3Bsys%3Dall%26amp%3Bc%3Dcan%26amp%3Breg%3Dyt%26amp%3Bmv%3D0&hash=e986c0def9fc9b8b5698ebc5caa3c9ff16e5e714)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fcentermap.php%3Fu%3Dalltrav%26amp%3Bsys%3Dall%26amp%3Bc%3Dcan%26amp%3Breg%3Dnt%26amp%3Bmv%3D0&hash=c9d3fa3736c35150973dafab46b16bb890faae0d)
Last time I sent my updated file, my clinched highways log got messed up. It seems to get messed up each time I email an update... Last update I went from having completed all miles for I-73, I-77, I-85, and I-95 in NC to none and also lost my clinch for I-405 Oregon, I-295 DC/MD, etc...
I'll take the rap for OR I-405. I had gone through and adjusted tags, cleaned up the files, etc...
I think the NC interstates had gotten fixed as well, but that's not my state/province. Not sure about I-295, though.
I-295 got changed due to removal of the ramps connecting it to the part of the SE Freeway that extends to Pennsylvania Ave. Eventually, it'll get changed again to reflect the approved endpoint at the south end of the 11th St Bridge.
Quote from: froggie on October 27, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
I-295 got changed due to removal of the ramps connecting it to the part of the SE Freeway that extends to Pennsylvania Ave. Eventually, it'll get changed again to reflect the approved endpoint at the south end of the 11th St Bridge.
Even when those ramps were in there (when RFK stadium was in use), they didn't look used. Keep us updated!
Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 27, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 27, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
I-295 got changed due to removal of the ramps connecting it to the part of the SE Freeway that extends to Pennsylvania Ave. Eventually, it'll get changed again to reflect the approved endpoint at the south end of the 11th St Bridge.
Even when those ramps were in there (when RFK stadium was in use), they didn't look used. Keep us updated!
RFK Stadium is still in use, mainly for soccer games.
I drove the eastbound ramp last December before it was demolished, using the EagleBank Bowl at RFK as my excuse in case someone hassled me (nobody did). I think the ramp was supposed to be closed even with the overhead saying it was closed "except for stadium games," but the orange barrels blocking the way were missing on the eastbound ramp (they were still there on the westbound ramp). In any case, it was obvious from all the snall debris on the roadway that few people were using the ramp, and nobody was cleaning or otherwise maintaining it.
Michigan's state highway system is ready for mapping. Thanks to Dave Filpus for collecting the data for these 146 highways.
The German Autobahn system of 156 routes/pieces of freeways is also ready, data provided by me.
Travelers can now include portions of these highways in the list of traveled segments and have them mapped at the Clinched Highway Mapping site.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php (http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php)
Michigan state highways:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fusami.gif&hash=e1e4ce1a943bd1df7938f47b0c88e5e4b4ff02f0)
German autobahnen:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fdeua.gif&hash=abac373c39277332ebfd2e7029f2a4f0377fd48a)
Just sent in an update. Really like what you've done with the site lately. :clap:
When I get more time, I'll have to work on my overall map.
Three more highway systems were activated today:
In Europe:
Austria Freeways (Autobahnen)
Austria Expressways (Schnellstrassen)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fautas.png&hash=d147ca61f94e09fbb89b8fbc534e6b3ef82a82e1)
In N. Am.:
DC district highways
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fusadc.png&hash=b6e01959065a8bc14b1d0ded955cbb1feec70eb7)
Update your Clinched Highway Maps at
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php (http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php)
We've added two new state highway systems to the CHM site.
- Iowa State Highways.
- New York State Highways.
Travelers can now highlight their travels on these highways.
Thanks to Jeff Morrison and Jim Teresco for providing the highway data.
South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Maine state highways are now added to the Clinched Highway Mapping site. Travelers can now track their travels on these state highway systems.
Thanks to Jeff Morrison and Eric Bryant for providing the highway data.
A crude multiplex detector has been launched at the Clinched Highway Mapping site.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
If a traveler has noted that s/he has clinched one route along a multiplex but not one or more of the concurrent routes, the new page will suggest the concurrent routes. So if you drove all of I-80 in PA but didn't realize you also traveled on a part of US 209, this page will remind you.
Look for the "Concurrent" link at the top of your stats pages.
I noticed that the page said this might automatically get added in the files in the future. Could you not do that please, for those of us that are only keeping track of certain systems (for example, I only keep track of Interstates and Ontario freeways) or you could make it an option or only for systems it detects in the file.
I think you misinterpreted that - I believe the intent was to combine the individual segments into a single multisegment - not update user list files automatically. The updating of routes should still be up to the user.
Quote from: Master son on December 22, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
I think you misinterpreted that - I believe the intent was to combine the individual segments into a single multisegment - not update user list files automatically. The updating of routes should still be up to the user.
Looking at it again, I think your right. Please disregard my last post.
This is probably a really dumb question, but can I just put my data in a note as opposed to a .list file or are they the same thing?
Quote from: njroadhorse on December 22, 2009, 06:31:20 PM
This is probably a really dumb question, but can I just put my data in a note as opposed to a .list file or are they the same thing?
You just make your ".list" file in Wordpad. Just when you go to save it, instead of having the .txt format in the file name, change it to .list. ;) The reason we need the user to do it on his end instead of just pasting it in an e-mail is to keep the extra work down to a minimum and leave that time for new features or new routes. ;)
Notepad works too...that's what I've been using.
In an effort to misuse the software in as many ways as I can....I maintain mine in Excel. :)
The .list file is just a plain text file, nothing fancy. (Why use Excel when you could use Mathematica?)
Six more European highway systems are available tonight:
Bosnia and Herzegovina Motorways (Autoputevi)
A-1 is rather short and all alone right now, but in the coming years, B&H will have an extensive network of A1, A2, A3, and maybe more motorways.
Croatia Motorways (Autoceste)
Croatia has nearly completed its system of motorways A1-A9 and is moving onto some extra connections in the A-teens.
Poland Motorways (Autostrady)
Poland is building motorways like mad through 2012 as part of a promise. In return, they get to co-host the 2012 UEFA European Football Championship with Ukraine. The plan is to be able to travel between the soccer venues at high speeds, so 100s of km of new motorways must be built fast.
Poland Expressways (Drogi Ekspresowe)
These S routes will one day create a modestly dense network of almost-motorways. Right now, it's a scattering of short bypasses across the country.
Slovenia Motorways (Avtoceste)
Like Croatia, Slovenia is finishing up its motorway system, here with 5 routes A1-A5.
Slovenia Expressways (Hitre Ceste)
Slovenia also built/is building a handful of expressways H1-H6 to complement its motorway network.
Highways in these systems can now be included in one's .list file and will appear in stats and maps on the CHM site.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Quote from: treichard on December 23, 2009, 02:39:14 AM
The .list file is just a plain text file, nothing fancy.
Just remember not to use any "tabs" in that file, or it will break that line. ;)
yeah, one [space] each will do, lets not waste the ammo </Captain Kirk>
I also started with the Clinched Highway Mapping, I love it.
So far I clinched 65% of the German Autobahn system. I hope to bring it close to 80% next year.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/stat/travsummary.php?u=chriszwolle&du=mi&sort=ra (http://cmap.m-plex.com/stat/travsummary.php?u=chriszwolle&du=mi&sort=ra)
Hope the mapping will include more countries soon. It's a cool feature. Thumbs up.
More countries are on the way. ;) :sombrero:
And, of course, more states...
Question: When entering numbers for regions in which I have only passed through part of on an interstate, is it the milepost number or the exit number I use, when entering states that sequentially number?
Sequential-numbered routes (no matter the designation) will use their sequential exit numbering; mile or km based highways will use those exit numbers. So, if you've traveled portions of I-90 in say Ohio - Massachusetts, dovetailing the interstate throughout, you'd be entering both systems in your .list file, based on the state's preference.
US highways will always use crossroads, regardless if they have exit numbers on their freeway portions (unless multiplexed with an Interstate).
State route freeways are dependent whether they are numbered and if so, whether that sequence is based on the route's origin.
Example: California freeways will be numbered in the browser, as they're mile-based from their west/south origin.
OR 22's freeway portions aren't, as the western segment doesn't have exit numbers and the eastern resets at 1.
Quote from: OracleUsr on January 02, 2010, 02:12:24 PM
Question: When entering numbers for regions in which I have only passed through part of on an interstate, is it the milepost number or the exit number I use, when entering states that sequentially number?
In all cases, use whatever the waypoint is called in the Highway Browser.
This is amazingly convenient. I'd been putting off updating my clinch file for US routes because of having to research all the random concurrent routes I've traveled along the way (esp in places I'm not too familiar with like Chicago).
It would be nice to have these automagically included in the clinch file, though, with a switch that allows you to turn off this behavior if desired.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 07, 2010, 07:48:17 AM
This is amazingly convenient. I'd been putting off updating my clinch file for US routes because of having to research all the random concurrent routes I've traveled along the way (esp in places I'm not too familiar with like Chicago).
It would be nice to have these automagically included in the clinch file, though, with a switch that allows you to turn off this behavior if desired.
Although not automatic, there is a facility to find concurrencies that you have only accounted for part of in your .list file easily. On your statistics page, click the 'Concurrent' link, in the top box next to the 'Log' and 'Travels file' links. The list that comes up shows the segments that you will want to look into (the first column) based on segments in your .list file (the second column). Note that each row is an individual segment from one label to the next label, not a group of segments to indicate a whole concurrency. Also note that there are a few false positives (2 freeways that run parallel but on separate roadways, a hwy that runs on frontage roads of a freeway between 2 labels).
--Andy
I think he already found it :P
Today we've hit the 300,000 mile mark (and the 500,000 km mark) in mapping clinched highways in North America and Europe. Travelers can now highlight their travels on the following new highway systems:
North America:
- Ohio State Highways. Data provided by Dave Filpus.
Europe:
- Bulgaria Motorways (Avtomagistrali). Data provided by me.
- Cyprus Motorways (Aftokinitodromi). Data provided by me.
- Luxembourg Motorways (Autobunnen). Data provided by Si Hollett.
- Portugal Motorways (Auto-estradas). Data provided by Christopher Steig.
- Romania Motorways (Autostrăzi). Data provided by me.
If you'd like to have maps and stats showing your progress in clinching highways or whole highway systems, browse to
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
to get started.
The Clinched Highway Mapping site seems to be down...
Nope. It's still up. ;)
Travels on four new sets of highways are ready to be mapped at the CHM site:
- Idaho State Highways. Data provided by Andrew Tompkins.
- Ontario King's Highways. Data provided by James Mast.
- Netherlands Motorways. Data provided by ChrisZwolle.
- Slovakia Expressways. Data provided by me.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Three more highway systems can now be used to track and map highway travels:
- Minnesota State Highways. Data provided by Adam Froehlig.
- Greece Motorways (Aftokinitodromi): Data provided by me.
- Turkey Motorways (Otoyolları): Data provided by me.
We will be adding more European motorways, US state highways, and Canadian provincial highways in the future.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Have the traveller's stats been updated lately? I keep looking for mine but haven't seen it yet.
If a week passes and you don't see your stats appear or update, send it again (and remember to attach the .list file).
We've added three more highway systems to the Clinched Highway Mapping site.
Site: http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
- Connecticut State Highways: from Jason Proctor.
- Missouri State Highways: from Jeff Morrison.
- Pennsylvania State Highways: from me.
Tim, heads up: I just got a 'Can't connect to database' error.
Of course, this'll probably resolve itself by the time you see this...
Me too, the clinched forum tells me:
QuoteUnable to connect to database on 'localhost' with user 'bizhat_s2'
Please check your settings in multiforums.config.inc.php!
I need my fix, man! :D
It's back!
Edit: And down again.
And now... http://www.netfreehost.com/server_move.html
Another new highway system has been added to the site: Italian Motorways (Autostrade), data provided by me.
Site: http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
We're closing in on completing all the motorway systems across Europe that are given a special designation. Twenty of the 25 countries are completed, and travels on them can be highlighted.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fmaps%2Fmapeurope.png&hash=8903897c0cf04be8de0c2e84b6c4fc9983323288)
looks fine to me (but then again I'm not logged in at this location)
Two new state highway systems have been added from New England:
- New Hampshire state highways, from Eric Bryant.
- Rhode Island state highways, from Jason Proctor.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Okay, so, question with regards to highway systems not online yet:
If I include these in my list file anyway, will that cause errors? Or will the program simply ignore and skip over anything it doesn't recognize?
Quote from: Duke87 on May 11, 2010, 09:27:17 PM
Okay, so, question with regards to highway systems not online yet:
If I include these in my list file anyway, will that cause errors? Or will the program simply ignore and skip over anything it doesn't recognize?
Errors will show up in the "Error Log". Something like this:
***Error! Unrecognized region & highway combo in: PA PA28TrkTit PA28_S PA28_N
http://cmap.m-plex.com/trav/rickmastfan67.log.txt <-- Just change my name to yours to see it. You can also view yours on any of your pages. Just click the "LOG" text.
But when the system is activated, the error will disappear and you'll automatically have that segment clinched. However, the non-active routes can change, so you have to double check when a network comes online.
Quote from: treichard on May 07, 2010, 01:18:18 AM
Two new state highway systems have been added from New England:
- New Hampshire state highways, from Eric Bryant.
- Rhode Island state highways, from Jason Proctor.
Also, the US Select Numbered State Freeways system is now live.
This system is temporary and will shrink and vanish as full state systems are completed.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 11, 2010, 09:33:23 PM
However, the non-active routes can change, so you have to double check when a network comes online.
Indeed, many of the point labels on non-active routes are corrected soon before the route set goes live. So if you start drafting entries for your travels as a set is being developed, you'll probably end up having to fix some of them later.
I have a suggestion/question, would it be easier for users to be able to just enter one entry for routes that are 100% clinched? Is that possible given the format of the entry system?
This would eliminate users from having to check routes already entered to make sure that they are still clinched. I lost three full clinches in my recent update and don't always double check the previously entered data to ensure that its still accurate.
When Exit 1 was changed to 1A for I-10 CA, it altered my percentage from 100% to 99.7%. Generally speaking, once a route is clinched, it never changes (with exceptions like I-520 SC, I-195 RI, I-376 PA). So having a switch of "all" could take care of this.
Because of the myriad possiblity and range of changes that could happen to a given route, this is exactly why some of the onus is on the user to check. We as project collaborators take considerable pain to ensure that changes to already-live routes minimize changes to the point labels. But sometimes errors need to be fixed and/or changes need to be made, and it's up to the user to check their errors that crop up (which is why we have the error log for each user) and/or check the updates list.
One entry wouldn't be possible anyway, given how the system is set up (unless Tim knows something that I don't). We'd have to go back to using "0" and "999" for each route. A *LOT* of work for the collaborators. We're also trying to minimize duplicate points which is partly why the "0" and "999" came off to begin with.
And the Exit 1 to 1A on CA I-10 in specific might have been a change to accurately reflect the CA 1 duplex as I was drafting the CA 1 route.
Is there not a way to set up a bool where 1 = clinched and 0 = unclinched that overrides the individual entries of 0 to 999?
The problem is, changes like 1A to 1 as the west end of I-10 do not show up on the error logs. You only know when you see 99.7% vs. 100%. I understand that work the amount of work that is involved with the project, but I generally do not check 48 states worth of entries each time I update. I only notice the 99%'s when I peruse. I also understand that with multiple contributors, it is difficult to manage one central log that keeps track of changes such as this. I noted that my I-595 FL entry was knocked down with the west end went from 1A to I-75.
I will remind myself to check http://cmap.m-plex.com/updatesminor.php periodically to stay on top of these types of changes. Perhaps a color code can be used in the updates section to differentiate between additions, error changes, and deletions?
QuoteIs there not a way to set up a bool where 1 = clinched and 0 = unclinched that overrides the individual entries of 0 to 999?
Not when the system requires two inputs...start point and end point.
Highway extensions that would reduce your % clinched value are supposed to be included on our updates page rather than in the personal logs. That I-10 one appears to be have been mistakenly omitted.
It would be easy to offer the "clinched whole route" option, but it would be a mistake to do so because it would be automatically applied to any later extensions. When a route is extended, the extension should be "not clinched" by default until the user decides to say s/he has clinched it.
We offer two more highway systems at the Clinched Highway Mapping site:
- Kansas State Highways: Data provided by Michael Wasleski.
- Switzerland Motorways (Autobahnen): Data provided by ChrisZwolle.
Travelers can now highlight their travels on 60 highway systems across North America and Europe.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Is there a better way to update the log file in development? I need for there to be some way to update the log interactively, like http://mob-rule.com/counties has. I just have the Interstates entered, since that was all there was when I started entering highways, but since the US routes have been added, the state systems have been added faster than I can keep up with them. I'm so far behind it'll take forever to add everything manually :ded:
It's easier for mob-rule to do such with the counties since the counties are fairly static and not changing, plus the number of them (3100-and-change) is not a huge number.
Not so with CHM, where individual road files change much more often, plus a single road set has many thousands of individual segments.
Possible? Perhaps. Feasible? Not really, IMO. Any interactive system would have to read the road sets basically every time in case there were changes made, which would be a huge drain on Tim's server...and the server's loaded down as it is.
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 13, 2010, 09:09:04 PM
Is there a better way to update the log file in development? I need for there to be some way to update the log interactively, like http://mob-rule.com/counties has. I just have the Interstates entered, since that was all there was when I started entering highways, but since the US routes have been added, the state systems have been added faster than I can keep up with them. I'm so far behind it'll take forever to add everything manually :ded:
Darn, just when I thought I might catch up with you...
It would even be slightly more tolerable if there was a way to directly edit the file from the Web interface, somewhat like a wiki (though only editable by you, of course). Or if you wanted to add some JS/flash, you could even do something simple like have a "timeline" sort of display where you marked X through Y clinched. Anything would be better than the way it is now.
Hmm, time to add my Swiss travels, I see.
In the future, I think having a GUI setup that automates creation of a .list file could be pretty feasible. Add a GEvent Listener to each segment of the GPolyline. Click to toggle it as clinched<->not clinched.
If clicking every segment is tedious, well, uhh... I really dunno how the gmaps API is with shift-clicking n'at...
But a more linear process of clicking the start then endpoint of a clinched segment could also be rigged up.
Also leaving the option of a text wiki-style .list editing interface open for those who like that is a good idea IMO...
...But these are discussions that we'd best not get into on Tim's busy month...
Quote from: yakra on June 16, 2010, 01:36:59 AM
If clicking every segment is tedious, well, uhh... I really dunno how the gmaps API is with shift-clicking n'at...
probably doable manually... upon shift-click event, find previous element clicked on, then iterate through every intervening element (walk linked list or whatnot), and trigger some event in each element whose result is an update.
That sounds like it would be usable enough...
Okay, here's a refinement of the idea. You don't even need Google Maps to do this, it would be eminently doable (just PHP to fetch and generate the list of segments, and JavaScript for the rest), and while not perfect, it would be usable and speed up the process by a lot.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denexa.com%2Fforum_img%2Fclinchline.png&hash=3265703b1c1b2514d886dc38b2e5d0d461f1b0f1)
How it works is you have these little bars between each of the waypoint labels. Clicking a clinchbar toggles it from red to green and back. You hit submit and the server edits your clinch file for you when you hit submit. (You could still edit it manually if you so desired, to "clean up" the automatic segments added if needed.)
Also included are two "creature comforts" like "Clinch All" and "Interpolate". This second button looks for two given segments and marks everything in between them as clinched–in this example, if you OK/KS to K-23 as clinched, and I-70 to US-56_W as clinched and hit Interpolate, it would automatically mark everything in between the same as if you specified KS US277 OK/KS US56_W The only problem is that it would not be usable if you have two separate sections of the highway clinched, since this would want to join them all up. In such a case, it would make more sense to download and edit the file manually.
This is doable and would result in more accessibility, especially among people who want to use the clinched highway site but are daunted by the textfile format (and would make small updates more feasible). Usership would probably increase due to this. It's not perfect, but it's better than what's there now.
QuoteThe only problem is that it would not be usable if you have two separate sections of the highway clinched, since this would want to join them all up. In such a case, it would make more sense to download and edit the file manually.
Which is quite often the case, especially with the state lists and routes that multiplex a lot.
There's also the question of how much processing power this PHP of yours requires. Tim's already running into that issue just with the sheer number of routes and points that are already active. And the priority is to complete the rest of the states and provinces, which will tax the server more.
It's kinda like he's caught between a rock and a hard place. Tim and his team are doing a great deal of work just to get state routes listed on the site. It may be a burden on a new user of the site to create a large list of highways clinched but the way I see it, it's easier to do a text file directly than to push the admins of the site to create an interface. You're talking about added maintenance to the site if the interface breaks down or is compromised. For those who have .list files - it does mean a little upkeep in case a highway's data is changed (believe me, changes have affected my file.) but these are small compared to any new system addition. hence the beta testing of new systems prior to their implementation. Imagine how much work it took for Tim to completely revamp the site last year. And the site isn't anyone's day job either. All the collaborators - I assume - are volunteering time for it.
Plus, froggie's right. Added php processing will likely tax whatever limits to the web server hosting he has. I don't know if he has shared hosting, a VPS or a dedicated site (likely one of the former) but any of them will be burdened by the added user interface.
Servers are powerful these days. Using processor cycles on PHP is cheap, and the load would be distributed amongst all the other sites on that server anyway. All the PHP would have to do is look up the If his host charges more for the more PHP he uses, then he's getting ripped off and should switch hosts. To be blunt, saying you can't do something like this for performance reasons is a total cop-out.
If you wanted to get really fancy with it you could have the JavaScript do *everything* but edit the list file after submission. That would be more difficult but then everything would happen on the user's browser and thus it wouldn't result in any more load to the server than when the list files are updated manually.
I'd much rather have a graphical data entry method than the rest of the state routes right now. The graphical data entry will benefit everyone in some way...which likely a lot more people than those who would find having Arkansas state routes in the system! (Not everybody has been on an Arkansas state route, but everyone who uses the site uses the site.)
nevertheless - having a site like this is a privilege. The guys working on it are using their spare time outside work to do so. It would take lots of time that they likely don't have to do this.
Of course it is. Which is why I'm not saying it has to be some fancy dancy map-based click-and-drag production. If you set up something like I proposed, it would take about two days to set up. A lot of the code already on the site could be re-used for this. (Don't have to write a new list parser, don't have to write a way to pull up the point data...) The rest of it is just basic UI stuff.
Hell, if they actually took this suggestion I'd probably volunteer to do the Oklahoma highways for them.
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 26, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
Hell, if they actually took this suggestion I'd probably volunteer to do the Oklahoma highways for them.
Already in development, with the draft state routes up to the high 20s. But not AR, LA, and TX, as far as I know.
I I don't see CPU cycles being a significant issue here. I envision adding an "Edit" or "Clinch" etc mode to the HB. It'd only even be active when a traveler choose to invoke it & do something with it. It'd probably have nothing on concurrent.php, or the HB's newish Show Intersecting Highways feature. Plus, as Scott noted, it could probably all be handled via JS client-side before sipping off a new .list to the server.
OTOH, getting the human(s) in charge of all this to agree on how it's to be implemented, and then find the tools knowledge & time to do it all -- that could be more of an issue. But nothing's gotta happen immediately...
Maybe start small, and explore methods of uploading a .list file from HD, or editing one with forms... and once that's down, branching out into snazzier interfaces.
O HAY! Look, I'm a... what comes after Viaduct, now?
Quote from: yakra on July 26, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
O HAY! Look, I'm a... what comes after Viaduct, now?
looks like you're a trafficway!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.zdnet.com%2Fblogs%2Fnelson-muntz.gif&hash=2b1b7f2c8692f60cd126d7f46cf560f7fad74d68)
(apparently, people in Kansas
like traffic enough that they name a classification of road after it.)
I guess the solution for that is tons n tons n tons of gratuitous overposting.
Man, I kinda liked being a viaduct (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.910693,-69.820175&spn=0.004305,0.008272&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=43.9106,-69.82022&panoid=mepWrV7f4YdAhhCLhhifkg&cbp=12,74.66,,0,5). But it'll never be back, though...
But seriously, folks...
Quote from: oscar on July 26, 2010, 01:10:41 PM
Already in development, with the draft state routes up to the high 20s. But not AR, LA, and TX, as far as I know.
I think an unofficial plan, when last discussed, (since TX is so bloody huge) was to have Andy be the ringleader & maintainer for TX, and delegate out routes in blocks of 50 to other interested collaborators, who then turn them over to him for a final check-over, submission & maintenance once completed.
Though for the time being, Andy is (and probably all the rest of us as well! :D) holding off on the TX subsystems till his other states are done.
Quote from: yakra on July 26, 2010, 02:05:33 PM
I guess the solution for that is tons n tons n tons of gratuitous overposting.
are you attempting to get to 2,147,483,647 posts, so you can wrap around??? :-o
QuoteMan, I kinda liked being a viaduct (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.910693,-69.820175&spn=0.004305,0.008272&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=43.9106,-69.82022&panoid=mepWrV7f4YdAhhCLhhifkg&cbp=12,74.66,,0,5). But it'll never be back, though...
I can change your post count. What number would you like?
Quote from: Master son on July 26, 2010, 09:04:03 AM
It may be a burden on a new user of the site to create a large list of highways clinched but the way I see it, it's easier to do a text file directly than to push the admins of the site to create an interface.
Tim's the only Admin for the site and does all the work on creating the interface for the site.
I stand corrected.
Two new US state highway systems are ready for mapping travels:
- Illinois State Highways: compiled by Jeff Morrison.
- Maryland State Highways: compiled by me.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
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Regarding site features at the CHM site, I have far more ideas and plans for improvements than I have time to implement. For now, we're focusing on improving quantity instead of quality, making use of about a dozen collaborators so kindly working in their spare time to add thousands more highways to the site. Managing their constant output is actually time-consuming enough that I soon have to decide whether to accept or reluctantly reject having several more volunteers involved.
A plain text file is the second simplest solution for users, falling behind only having no file to mess with at all.
Note for NJ, which you haven't yet implemented - you're missing some routes: 139 162 163 167 324. Any questions about where those are, feel free to ask.
324 is out due to being unsigned.
139 is a headache...
QuoteNJ139 is the (mostly underground) portion of the Pulaski Skyway that connects US1/9 with I-78 in Jersey City, shown here). Except, it's also the surface street Hoboken Ave, which has interchanges the lower ("Skyway") portion does not. I have no idea how to handle this one. Two routes ("Upper" and "Lower")? One route with no intermediate intersections? One route with intersections (probably the two I have on the Hoboken Ave segment)?
...we have yet to figure out how to deal with.
As for the other routes, I know nothing about those; I'll forward your comment to the CHM forum.
Quote from: yakra on July 27, 2010, 07:38:58 PM
324 is out due to being unsigned.
There are definitely unsigned routes in the database, like Quebec A-920. So that's no excuse. Three key points - western end, junction the one road that leads out somewhere, dead end.
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139 is a headache...
139 itself starts at 1/9, next point would be merge with 139_U (Upper), next point would be junction I-78 at Jersey Ave., next point would be the state line probably.
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As for the other routes, I know nothing about those; I'll forward your comment to the CHM forum.
The others are unsigned. 163 needs two ends (western and US46), 167_S would be US9 and end, 167_N would be end and US9. 162 also just needs two ends. It looked like you had NJ 13 in there despite being unsigned - again, I'd argue to include any officially designated route.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on July 28, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
Quote from: yakra on July 27, 2010, 07:38:58 PM
324 is out due to being unsigned.
There are definitely unsigned routes in the database, like Quebec A-920. So that's no excuse. Three key points - western end, junction the one road that leads out somewhere, dead end.
FYI, Interstates don't count. Hidden or un-hidden, Interstates will stay.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on July 28, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
Quote from: yakra on July 27, 2010, 07:38:58 PM139 is a headache...
139 itself starts at 1/9, next point would be merge with 139_U (Upper), next point would be junction I-78 at Jersey Ave., next point would be the state line probably.
The lower route starts at 1/9 and has its other endpoint at I-78. It has no other interchanges. The upper route's western end is Kennedy Blvd, there are surface streets that may be of interest, and its eastern end is I-78 where it joins the lower route. Neither route continues into the tunnel.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on July 28, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
It looked like you had NJ 13 in there despite being unsigned - again, I'd argue to include any officially designated route.
NJ 13 is more likely to get pulled than the others added, although there is at least some evidence that it exists as a separate designation (a 0 mile marker at its western end is visible in GMSV). The current policy for state routes is that unsigned routes are not intentionally included. I think many of us appreciate the ideal of completeness, but consider (for example) the hundreds of really short unsigned routes in Connecticut. There's a point of diminishing returns, at least for the first pass on the state routes, and whether the route is signed is a reasonable approximation of that point.
Not to mention the high degree of difficulty in determining if you've been on a route in a state where you aren't familiar with the unsigned routes.
Regarding unsigned routes, Tim's preference for state/provincial routes (as noted before, this doesn't apply to Interstates and Autoroutes) is that unsigned routes be left out, though some have remained in (or placed in) the system if they provide a major connection. It's looked at on a case-by-case basis.
Quote from: froggie on July 28, 2010, 01:40:17 PMthough some have remained in (or placed in) the system if they provide a major connection. It's looked at on a case-by-case basis.
I can just think of OR100 now... wat other examples are there?
In WI - I don't see any that would need to be in. I'm actually surprised that WIS 341 is included - it's not signed, but I guess it has a connection to Miller Park so that might be why. There are two spurs, one (WIS 794) of which is listed. The other is so short that it shouldn't even be mentioned in the state books. These aren't signed. - I just noticed that WIS 794 spur is on the wrong road too :-D
Quote from: yakra on July 28, 2010, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: froggie on July 28, 2010, 01:40:17 PMthough some have remained in (or placed in) the system if they provide a major connection. It's looked at on a case-by-case basis.
I can just think of OR100 now... wat other examples are there?
Not that OR100 provides a major connection... but it is well signed (not by number), and most people going through the Gorge will take OR100 at one point or another. OR209, however...
I see it's not in the HB... another unsigned one that?
Oh yeah... and above, I wasn't asking for examples of major connection so much as just examples of unsifned routes in the HB
OR 209 got pulled; it got decommed in the late '50s and was a Google artifact when I drafted the route, and Google's corrected the error.
If we ever did a NP set, it'd go there.
Five more highway systems are now mappable at the Clinched Highway Mapping site.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Users can now track their cumulative travels on these systems:
- Massachusetts State Highways - compiled by Jim Teresco
- France Motorways (Autoroutes) - Si Hollett and me.
- Belgium Motorways (Autosnelwegen) - me.
- Martinique Motorways (Autoroutes) - me.
- Luxembourg Expressways (Schnellstrossen) - me.
What exactly is required to "compile" a highway system?
I'm interested in getting Indiana State Highways on the site.
Quote from: oxlahun on July 28, 2010, 01:01:28 AM
Quote from: AlpsROADS on July 28, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
Quote from: yakra on July 27, 2010, 07:38:58 PM139 is a headache...
139 itself starts at 1/9, next point would be merge with 139_U (Upper), next point would be junction I-78 at Jersey Ave., next point would be the state line probably.
The lower route starts at 1/9 and has its other endpoint at I-78. It has no other interchanges. The upper route's western end is Kennedy Blvd, there are surface streets that may be of interest, and its eastern end is I-78 where it joins the lower route. Neither route continues into the tunnel.
Wrong, the lower route is concurrent with I-78 until the state line. Check it out.
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Quote from: AlpsROADS on July 28, 2010, 12:11:17 AM
It looked like you had NJ 13 in there despite being unsigned - again, I'd argue to include any officially designated route.
NJ 13 is more likely to get pulled than the others added, although there is at least some evidence that it exists as a separate designation (a 0 mile marker at its western end is visible in GMSV). The current policy for state routes is that unsigned routes are not intentionally included. I think many of us appreciate the ideal of completeness, but consider (for example) the hundreds of really short unsigned routes in Connecticut. There's a point of diminishing returns, at least for the first pass on the state routes, and whether the route is signed is a reasonable approximation of that point.
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I'd vote to remove NJ 13 then. It truly is unsigned - every NJ route has a mile marker 0 more or less, signed or not.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on September 07, 2010, 07:50:45 AMWrong, the lower route is concurrent with I-78 until the state line. Check it out.
You're correct. I'll submit the correction soon (with a few others that are coming up as we proof the system).
Quote from: AlpsROADS on September 07, 2010, 07:50:45 AMI'd vote to remove NJ 13 then. It truly is unsigned - every NJ route has a mile marker 0 more or less, signed or not.
Done before you voted for it. :)
Mexican autopistas -- both the federal and state -D expressways -- have been added to the Clinched Highway Mapping site. Now most of the North American freeway systems are included.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Cool - when does Japan get started :P
Hey I figured I'd better bring this to someone's attention. The updates for my data haven't been showing up lately. I've sent my list file in twice within the past two weeks and the updates have not showed up. It showed a mileage increase, but when I went to check the highways I updated, there was no change. Also, the date for one of my highways is not recognized anymore on the website and it did before.
1. Look at the email you sent and make sure you sent it to the right address and that a properly named .list file is attached.
2. If the email and .list file were both in order, then allow 7 days for processing.
3. On the 8th or subsequent day, contact the webmaster (not this forum) if there is a problem.
Quote from: njroadhorse on October 03, 2010, 01:32:56 PM
Hey I figured I'd better bring this to someone's attention. The updates for my data haven't been showing up lately. I've sent my list file in twice within the past two weeks and the updates have not showed up. It showed a mileage increase, but when I went to check the highways I updated, there was no change. Also, the date for one of my highways is not recognized anymore on the website and it did before.
It looks like you've signed up for The CMap project's forum (http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/) - it's probably the best place for discussions of this nature.
I see in your log file (http://cmap.m-plex.com/trav/njroadhorse.log.txt) there's a lot of entries for FL and NJ state highways. These two systems are still In Development (and thus grayed out in the Highway Browser); I imagine that's your biggest reason for updates not showing.
I bet the mileage increase was due to newly traveled segments on highways that have already been activated on the site, and that rather than check those you just had a look at some of the in-development routes.
For the route no longer recognized, there should be a line in the log file indicating what the problem is - most likely listing a bad point in your list file.
We try to avoid changes to the highway data that'll break anyone's .list file...
If a waypoint label changes (e.g. due to a route being renumbered or decommissioned, a street renamed, etc.) we'd leave an invisible copy of the waypoint in place with the old label, so people don't have to change their lists. ...That is, if somebody's using the label. Otherwise we don't bother making the invisible copy.
One possibility is a point label in your .list got changed out from under you when the person maintaining that highway forgot to check whether that label was in use. Again, we try not to do that.
Another possibility: a highway was relocated, removing a point.
When the Brookfield bypass opened CT US7 just didn't connect to CT25 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.482444&lon=-73.409615&zoom=15) anymore.
Check the updates page (http://cmap.m-plex.com/updates.php); if this was the case the change is most likely listed here.
HTH!
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 02, 2010, 07:42:20 AM
What exactly is required to "compile" a highway system?
I'm interested in getting Indiana State Highways on the site.
Tim, would you care to field this question? :happy:
Anything more specific aside, best I can offer at the moment is:
"Come hang out at the CHM forum (http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/)"
and maybe a "contact the webmaster"
Can't speak directly for Tim, but he did mention sometime over the summer that he's at his limit for collaborators.
There was the recent thread about finally easing a few new collaborators into the process, but I've not seen any more there in a bit (including Tim helping Hawaii get started; I know James and Andy were polishing up their respective states' I/US routes first). Three new collabs joining the project already seems Borderline A Lot, and I don't know how much crazier a fourth would make things, so `sprolly best to leave that question to Tim.
Is something wrong with the site? Everything's 403ing for me.
Tim's trying something.
Two new highway systems are available in Europe at Clinched Highway Mapping.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php
Travelers can now mark their travels on these highways:
- Italy Select Named Motorways (these include the named motorways without an explicit A designation and include a few raccordi autostradale and tangenziale). Data provided by me.
- Spain Select Autonomous Community Motorways (these include the autonomous community routes with an explicit motorway designation and some of the other A. C. routes that are mostly or completely composed of motorway sections): Data provided by Christopher Steig and me.
We have one motorway system remaining to finish before completing the first phase of our Europe coverage.
Here are the highways we presently cover in Europe:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fimages%2Feuropemap.png&hash=1b7c4055941984a5b5155fb75e638db9c7822d76)
Two new highway systems are available for tracking cumulative travel at http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php .
- New Jersey State Highways. Data provided by J. Proctor.
- International European Roads in Austria and Denmark. Data provided by me.
The latter system is the E-Road network that spans Europe and western Asia. In Austria, these highways are mostly redundant with the motorways and expressways (A & S routes), and in Denmark, these constitute much of the principal trans-national motorway network. We will be adding more countries' worth of E Roads over the coming months.
Since the last update here, lots more highways have been added to the Clinched Highway Mapping site.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/
1. New Brunswick Provincial Highways have been added. Data provided by Eric Bryant.
2. Spain National Motorways have also been added. Data provided by Christopher Steig and me.
This latter addition nearly completes our coverage of European motorway systems. One European traveler's map now looks like this:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fimages%2Feuromway.png&hash=1894814668255e4131b4d1ca5f24b2b50146d3a5)
3. Si Hollett and I have also made a lot of progress on the extensive International European Road network. This system largely duplicates the motorways and expressways of countries full of them, serves as the motorway network in other countries, and fills in the gaps there and in the countries without extensive motorway networks.
Progress map:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fimages%2Feuroeure.png&hash=0eb6bbfa3285c46e75fe58aefc908aca63b65d81)
Could someone put in a request in the CHM forum to add IL-97? I forgot my password
Many thanks
IL 97 (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?mt=g&r=il.il097&sys=usail&rg=all&gr=p&off=0) is in there.
Since the last update, we have more highways available for travel tracking and mapping:
- Albania Motorways - provided by me.
- Hawaii State Highways - provided by Oscar Voss.
- International European Roads in Netherlands, Latvia - by Si Hollett.
- International European Roads in Croatia, Italy, Poland, Slovakia - by me.
The CHM forum's been down for a few days now - any idea when it'll be back up?
Quote from: english si on April 20, 2011, 08:16:59 AM
The CHM forum's been down for a few days now - any idea when it'll be back up?
It is back up, but hard to get into. You might have the best luck getting into it via Firefox. Because I'm personally still having problems getting into it via IE (still getting the "Server Maintenance" message), but can access it via FF with no problems (besides it being a tad slow).
http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/
thanks
QuoteBecause I'm personally still having problems getting into it via IE (still getting the "Server Maintenance" message),
For the record, I have not had the same problems with IE.
Quote from: froggie on April 20, 2011, 08:53:58 AM
QuoteBecause I'm personally still having problems getting into it via IE (still getting the "Server Maintenance" message),
For the record, I have not had the same problems with IE.
What version of IE are you running Froggie? I have IE9 on my system. And I've done everything to try to get them to load in it (deleting cookies, cache, you name it) with no luck.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on April 20, 2011, 08:55:38 AM
Quote from: froggie on April 20, 2011, 08:53:58 AM
QuoteBecause I'm personally still having problems getting into it via IE (still getting the "Server Maintenance" message),
For the record, I have not had the same problems with IE.
What version of IE are you running Froggie? I have IE9 on my system. And I've done everything to try to get them to load in it (deleting cookies, cache, you name it) with no luck.
FWIW, I'm having no problem accessing the forum with IE7 at home, or with Firefox at work.
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QuoteBecause I'm personally still having problems getting into it via IE (still getting the "Server Maintenance" message),
For the record, I have not had the same problems with IE.
What version of IE are you running Froggie? I have IE9 on my system. And I've done everything to try to get them to load in it (deleting cookies, cache, you name it) with no luck.
FWIW, I'm having no problem accessing the forum with IE7 at home, or with Firefox at work.
Well, I just got it to work in IE again. Had to add the "index.php" to the end of the normal URL and it now works again in IE9. But if I use the URL without that, it gives me the "Server Maintenance" message. Weird, ain't it?
IE 8 is working fine as well.
It's been my hope to use this thread to let others know about the site and project, to let those interested know about our expanding highway coverage, and to interact with those interested or curious about the work being offered for free to community. I don't think that personal browser problems are relevant. CHM site outages are rare but are usefully reported to me by email rather than to this venue.
Back on topic...
Tonight another set of Int'l European Roads is available. Norwegian E Roads can now be marked and highlighted as clinched for those who would like to record their travels there. Thanks to Si Hollett for providing the data.
More highways have been added to the Clinched Highway Mapping site.
http://cmap.m-plex.com/
- Jamaican Motorways. Data provided by me.
- Int'l European Roads in Moldova, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Data provided by Si Hollett and me.
Join us if you'd like in creating maps and seeing stats about one's cumulative highway travel in North America and Europe.
Clinched Highway Mapping now features the entire ~171,000 km International European Road system (E Roads). Users can now highlight their travels on these highways in all 46 countries across Eurasia. This also completes the 2 major sets of highway systems across Europe: motorways/expressways and E roads.
Site: http://cmap.m-plex.com/
International European Roads map:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcmap.m-plex.com%2Fimages%2Feure.png&hash=c91919d77bbb0a622e1644c7e9c1a3cee6c1b580)
Also new since the previous announcement are the following highway systems:
- Kosovo Motorways. Kosovo opened their first motorway, R1, last fall.
- Nebraska State Highways. Data provided by Eric Bryant.
I just changed my email address for the Clinched Highway mapping forum last night and have yet to receive my reactivation email. Has anyone else had this issue and solved it?
Sorry for the uberbump, but I didn't want to start a new thread. Should I have?
Anyway, where on the site is the Google-styled map for the highway browser? For me it's just a search thing. Clicking next... next... next... oops, back... doesn't seem as easy as dragging around a map... :P
I see they revamped the HB this week. It works fine here, so the question is... why did it switch to static for you? Maybe someone who works on CHM can investigate the issue.
So it still should be an actual map?
That's promising at least...
Am I missing something? From the main page (http://cmap.m-plex.com/index.php), I click on Highway Browser (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/selecthwys.php). Once my search results (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/selecthwys.php?sys=allav&rg=usa.me&gr=s#r) are returned, I click on a shield and there's my map (http://cmap.m-plex.com/hb/hwymap.php?sys=allav&rg=usa.me&gr=s&r=me.me026agra).
As for the Static Maps, I'm pretty sure those have been discontinued with this recent revamp of the HB.
Roadsguy, Do you just see the "<- Prev Page" and "Next Page ->" links, with no highway shields or something? I'm not too sure exactly what problems you're experiencing. Can you provide a URL for the page you're looking at?
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on October 29, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
I see they revamped the HB this week.
No they didn't. I"m still the same as I ever was! :-D :-D :-D
Apologies for bumping, but I've been trying to submit my data file for a few months now, since they revamped the site at least, and I have not seen my updates appear. I haven't changed my email address, and I've emailed my log file to the same email address. Has anyone else had this problem?
Quote from: njroadhorse on March 10, 2013, 06:00:26 PM
Apologies for bumping, but I've been trying to submit my data file for a few months now, since they revamped the site at least, and I have not seen my updates appear. I haven't changed my email address, and I've emailed my log file to the same email address. Has anyone else had this problem?
AFAIK, the admin email address hasn't changed in years. The forums for the project at http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/ are fairly active. You should ask over there.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know the timeline for the next highway systems to be added? There have been no new highway systems added since August.
The CHM forum (http://clinched.s2.bizhat.com/) itself would be a better place for this question. I don't know what level of contribution you'd be looking for, but with Tim being as occupied as he is, I bet that taking on any new fully-fledged collaborators and showing them the ropes isn't doable at this time. The best I can offer is to check out the highway systems in the Highway Browser, both activated and in-devel previews, and report any errors you find or comments you have in the forum.
CHM just processed site updates a couple of days ago, though it doesn't appear to have included any data updates and the route mileages/percentages are off. Everything from my last site update displays properly on the map and in the highway browser highlight, but the mileage count and percentages traveled didn't update with the maps.