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Title: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Jim on June 27, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
This went up within the last week on I-87 North between exits 5 and 6 in Latham, NY, as part of the ongoing reconstruction of the Exit 6 overpass and nearby roads.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20090625%2Fexit6.jpg&hash=b754d107428fb6fd0a5450ee01d090ed8afcfb3b)

I've never seen this combination of large caps and small lowercase letters around here.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Ian on June 29, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Oh boy, a new New York highway sign marvel for me to see. So I assume, that sign in the background is going to be replaced? Also that font looks a little ugly IMHO. I also see the exit tab a little to far off to the right like Florida does. Thanks for sharing!
Ian
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 29, 2009, 06:27:25 PM
I wonder what the originator of that spec is.  There are some signs like that here in California in a construction zone on I-15 southbound, just south of Escondido.  But they're temporary orange signs so I suppose they can be forgiven.

To me, it seems like a bastardization of the old California black guide sign font.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19550151i1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Dougtone on June 29, 2009, 06:44:24 PM
Quote from: Jim T. on June 27, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
This went up within the last week on I-87 North between exits 5 and 6 in Latham, NY, as part of the ongoing reconstruction of the Exit 6 overpass and nearby roads.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20090625%2Fexit6.jpg&hash=b754d107428fb6fd0a5450ee01d090ed8afcfb3b)

I've never seen this combination of large caps and small lowercase letters around here.


I saw this from the corner of my eye yesterday as I was driving southbound on the Northway, and I was thinking that the signs were fugly (yes, fugly).  Since I was in a hurry to get to Binghamton, where I live these days, I didn't turn around for the photo.  Oddly enough, the Getting There article in today's Times Union referred to these very signs.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Michael on June 30, 2009, 08:51:37 AM
I've seen some sign pictures from the NJ Turnpike that looked similar to this!  I'll post if I find them again.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: vdeane on June 30, 2009, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on June 29, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
So I assume, that sign in the background is going to be replaced?
Probably just removed; NY has a nasty habit of leaving old signs up behind the new ones they add.  I-490 in Rochester currently has two sets of signs for many exits between I-390 and the Inner Loop due to this.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: akotchi on June 30, 2009, 05:19:13 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on June 29, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Oh boy, a new New York highway sign marvel for me to see. So I assume, that sign in the background is going to be replaced? Also that font looks a little ugly IMHO. I also see the exit tab a little to far off to the right like Florida does. Thanks for sharing!
Ian

I have seen this before, but only when using software to design guide sign panels.  Usually, destinations are specified as having, for instance, 16" uppercase and 12" lowercase letters.  This is a standard combination commonly used, so specifying the whole word to have that combination (i.e. one button)should show the message normally.  To use the example of "Cohoes," if the "C" were specified as 16" uppercase, and the "ohoes" were specified separately as 12" lowercase, the result is like what appears on the sign.

It's a long explanation, but somebody goofed in the sign shop, it appears.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: njroadhorse on June 30, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Michael on June 30, 2009, 08:51:37 AM
I've seen some sign pictures from the NJ Turnpike that looked similar to this!  I'll post if I find them again.
I think I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember where they are.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Alps on June 30, 2009, 07:41:41 PM
Quote from: njroadhorse on June 30, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Michael on June 30, 2009, 08:51:37 AM
I've seen some sign pictures from the NJ Turnpike that looked similar to this!  I'll post if I find them again.
I think I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember where they are.
I don't think there are any signs like this on the Turnpike.  Parkway, I think so, though I don't remember offhand where.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Dougtone on June 30, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
Oh, it gets worse in regards to the signs regarding the Northway Exit 6 project...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3676961470_8f46a30973.jpg?v=0 (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3676961470_8f46a30973.jpg?v=0)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2598/3672874469_7479cd30da.jpg?v=0 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2598/3672874469_7479cd30da.jpg?v=0)

Both photos taken by John Krakoff, yesterday.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Snappyjack on July 03, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
I'd like to know the genius idea behind the making of these signs. Not only is Watervaliet spelled wrong.. the Albany Airport sign has two totally different fonts on it.

Another wonderous New York mess. :-P
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Jim on July 03, 2009, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: Snappyjack on July 03, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
I'd like to know the genius idea behind the making of these signs. Not only is Watervaliet spelled wrong.. the Albany Airport sign has two totally different fonts on it.

Agreed on the font issues, but at least the ones I have seen do spell it all correctly, including Watervliet.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Snappyjack on July 04, 2009, 02:01:19 AM
Yes, actually, I stand corrected.. that is the correct spelling. I always assumed there was another a in the word. But regardless, very shoddy sign work here.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2009, 12:21:00 AM
Older NH signs have the font...
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewHampshireTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5353907423483655474 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewHampshireTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5353907423483655474)
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewHampshireTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5353907433296219298 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewHampshireTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5353907433296219298)
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: SidS1045 on July 06, 2009, 08:11:23 PM
Not too much different, I guess, from what NY did with their parkways:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hutchinson_River_Pkwy_Shield.svg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hutchinson_River_Pkwy_Shield.svg)
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 07, 2009, 09:14:04 AM
I got to see those signs and noticed they were different and looked weird while in  NY last week.  IMHO I'm not sure how to compare this to clearview
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Jim on December 04, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
Quote from: Jim on June 27, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
This went up within the last week on I-87 North between exits 5 and 6 in Latham, NY, as part of the ongoing reconstruction of the Exit 6 overpass and nearby roads.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20090625%2Fexit6.jpg&hash=b754d107428fb6fd0a5450ee01d090ed8afcfb3b)

I've never seen this combination of large caps and small lowercase letters around here.


Sorry to resurrect such an old topic, but I noticed this morning that the fonts on these signs have been fixed.  No more giant uppercase and tiny lowercase.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Michael in Philly on December 04, 2010, 06:40:16 PM
Quote from: Jim on December 04, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
Sorry to resurrect such an old topic, but I noticed this morning that the fonts on these signs have been fixed.  No more giant uppercase and tiny lowercase.


Don't apologize:  it gives me the opportunity to ask how to pronounce "Watervliet" - "WAter-vly (rhymes with "fly")-it"?  The Dutch would be something like "wah-ter-fleet."
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Jim on December 04, 2010, 07:55:27 PM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on December 04, 2010, 06:40:16 PMDon't apologize:  it gives me the opportunity to ask how to pronounce "Watervliet" - "WAter-vly (rhymes with "fly")-it"?  The Dutch would be something like "wah-ter-fleet."

The locals would say something like "wah-ter-vah-LEET" .  Maybe someone else also familiar with the pronunciation can come up with a better phonetic for it.
Title: Re: New Exit 6/7 sign on the Northway (I-87 NY)
Post by: Ian on December 04, 2010, 08:16:43 PM
Quote from: Jim on December 04, 2010, 07:55:27 PM
Quote from: Michael in Philly on December 04, 2010, 06:40:16 PMDon't apologize:  it gives me the opportunity to ask how to pronounce "Watervliet" - "WAter-vly (rhymes with "fly")-it"?  The Dutch would be something like "wah-ter-fleet."

The locals would say something like "wah-ter-vah-LEET" .  Maybe someone else also familiar with the pronunciation can come up with a better phonetic for it.


My uncle who lives in Voorheesville pronounces it as "wah-ter-vleet."