I think this is a rare occurrence. I don't think I have ever seen a street name signed on a pullthrough sign! Image below (from GMSV):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FPullthru-StreetName-1_zps6ede1abd.png&hash=ac3ddbec19dbf6d16af5dce35d83ffeb6422cbd3)
As seen in the photo, US 1 has a destination legend containing Warren Street, which is the last exit in Trenton NJ before crossing over into PA on the toll bridge. However, I don't think I've seen many street names signed as a pullthrough legend even before exiting a city!
There's also another sign before this interchange, right after the Perry Street one:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FPullthru-StreetName-2_zps0014f74e.png&hash=e049bc661b31322cacda428b506473a4178a2d4c)
As you approach the exit for Warren Street, the pullthrough changes back to a standard format:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FPullthru-StreetName-3_zps2233d81f.png&hash=bbb37d8482ae6213078cc57ff081a31acb54121a)
Has anyone else seen instances of this?
The pull-through's on I-287 in northern New Jersey use "N.Y. Thruway" (http://goo.gl/maps/MlzTS) as one of the control cities.
It's worth noting that those BGS examples are likely of similar 90s vintage.
Here's one that's an older (80s) vintage: In Philly, along US 1 South along City Ave. just past I-76. (http://goo.gl/maps/JUFQh)
Does it matter if the gantry with the pull thru is on a non-freeway that has BGS anyway?
US 23 at I-670 in Columbus comes to my mind.
Also, I think OH 4 at railroad overpasses in Marion (bonus: kickass ancient button copy!)
It's more of a "control city", but...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2727_zpse2f483f1.jpg&hash=7a5298fe49c0a7fbc0e0c1bb0a6f36a6d9eff5ed) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2727_zpse2f483f1.jpg.html)
Quote from: Brandon on May 06, 2014, 01:59:06 PM
It's more of a "control city", but...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2727_zpse2f483f1.jpg&hash=7a5298fe49c0a7fbc0e0c1bb0a6f36a6d9eff5ed) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2727_zpse2f483f1.jpg.html)
Still counts. Anyone know of another like the Trenton one where there aren't any arrows on the sign?
Has arrows, unfortunately
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corcohighways.org%2Fhighways%2Fmt%2F90%2F276to115%2F3.jpg&hash=901aae43498710a858b94573eed9a8b642d31cab)
No arrows- something similarly weird where they combined a pullthrough with an exit sign- this sign indicates that we're on I-25/US-87, and that McKinley Street will exit soon.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corcohighways.org%2Fhighways%2Fwy%2F25%2F220to25casper%2F1.jpg&hash=28a118c9350bdb28ef1025f2a135cd8d00c2130d)
That last example is definitely close to what I had in mind. At the time of that gantry, are you on I-25 / US 87? I was looking for this sign but I'm not having luck finding it...
Yes, on 25 South right where it crosses the North Platte.
The inbound HOV bridge on I-395 in the District of Columbia used to have a pull-through sign listing "12th Street" underneath the I-395 NORTH legend. It's been replaced with a new sign listing Capitol Hill, Verizon Center, and Nationals Park (which correspond to the signs over the non-HOV carriageway). I suppose sports venues probably aren't all that standard on pull-through signs either!
Two examples from Ohio. Both are instances of freeways that come to an end at the interchange and continue on as local roads. The first is the I-675 terminus at I-70, and the second is OH-444 (which is really only a freeway for about a mile).
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.866397,-83.993531,3a,75y,358.78h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swTiLfkn7OtOAtjMLmQZ7QQ!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.866397,-83.993531,3a,75y,358.78h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swTiLfkn7OtOAtjMLmQZ7QQ!2e0)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.800761,-84.102038,3a,75y,304.52h,97.42t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snI-1U6A76Ny0Ep6-lZVOMA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.800761,-84.102038,3a,75y,304.52h,97.42t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snI-1U6A76Ny0Ep6-lZVOMA!2e0)
The former south end of I-69 in nw Indianapolis has a sign for Binford Blvd.
NB I-75 in Detroit (at the Fisher/Chrysler interchange) has a sign for Gratiot Ave (although that is M-3).
Quote from: vtk on May 06, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Does it matter if the gantry with the pull thru is on a non-freeway that has BGS anyway?
US 23 at I-670 in Columbus comes to my mind.
Also, I think OH 4 at railroad overpasses in Marion (bonus: kickass ancient button copy!)
US 23 SB (Summit St) at I-670 https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.976939,-83.00011&spn=0.004686,0.007081&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.977048,-83.000131&panoid=mvbHqW6zL5hrfpFZUSmU4Q&cbp=12,163.87,,1,-3.95
US 23 NB (4th St) at I-670 https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.970411,-82.997385&spn=0.004687,0.007081&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.970304,-82.99739&panoid=mPoIpCBLkbmqvC872_Xz2A&cbp=12,359.67,,1,-4.84
I-670 WB at I-71 (this one's kind of cheating) https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.978929,-82.981474&spn=0.009438,0.014162&t=m&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.979001,-82.98202&panoid=64B8hKFRxOorI1W8fLlx6Q&cbp=12,280.23,,1,-5.59
Do these count? (OH 4 in Marion) https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.592212,-83.130605&spn=0.002338,0.003541&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=40.592407,-83.130618&panoid=tiNovyoiiyylfReU1ndEeQ&cbp=12,182.51,,0,-5.15 and https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.588802,-83.12729&spn=0.002338,0.003541&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=40.588705,-83.127188&panoid=JeoMqGSHl6rCAlYSaPmSGw&cbp=12,343.46,,1,-5.76
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.736224,-74.085793,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIKaMZo6QyVptVNo-yaRcPg!2e0
This faded one is on US 1 and 9 in Jersey City, NJ. With the Pulaski Skyway being redone, I am sure that NJDOT will not only replace the sign panels that are beyond worn, but remove "Tonelle Ave." as well and maybe use NYC instead.
Quote from: GaryV on May 06, 2014, 09:34:10 PM
The former south end of I-69 in NE Indianapolis has a sign for Binford Blvd.
FTFY.
That brought to mind another Indy example, sort of:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fdbnujq.png&hash=d2570d06358459e834688817e52fe404e926ed4c)
I know it says "exit only" but Southeastern Ave. is truly the "through" option here, considering how the interchange is constructed:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F20jsg8p.png&hash=853d1698a525789ef5b8059343f8c7bcf20b9081)
Quote from: vtk on May 06, 2014, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: vtk on May 06, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Does it matter if the gantry with the pull thru is on a non-freeway that has BGS anyway?
US 23 at I-670 in Columbus comes to my mind.
Also, I think OH 4 at railroad overpasses in Marion (bonus: kickass ancient button copy!)
US 23 SB (Summit St) at I-670 https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.976939,-83.00011&spn=0.004686,0.007081&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.977048,-83.000131&panoid=mvbHqW6zL5hrfpFZUSmU4Q&cbp=12,163.87,,1,-3.95
US 23 NB (4th St) at I-670 https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.970411,-82.997385&spn=0.004687,0.007081&t=m&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.970304,-82.99739&panoid=mPoIpCBLkbmqvC872_Xz2A&cbp=12,359.67,,1,-4.84
I-670 WB at I-71 (this one's kind of cheating) https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.978929,-82.981474&spn=0.009438,0.014162&t=m&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.979001,-82.98202&panoid=64B8hKFRxOorI1W8fLlx6Q&cbp=12,280.23,,1,-5.59
Do these count? (OH 4 in Marion) https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.592212,-83.130605&spn=0.002338,0.003541&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=40.592407,-83.130618&panoid=tiNovyoiiyylfReU1ndEeQ&cbp=12,182.51,,0,-5.15 and https://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=40.588802,-83.12729&spn=0.002338,0.003541&t=m&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=40.588705,-83.127188&panoid=JeoMqGSHl6rCAlYSaPmSGw&cbp=12,343.46,,1,-5.76
US 23 SB - Counts, albeit arrows
US 23 NB -
Definitely CountsI-670 WB - Yes and no
OH 4 - Kind of, I was looking for route number, no arrows, like the US 23 NB example
Quote from: roadman65 on May 07, 2014, 08:38:18 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.736224,-74.085793,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIKaMZo6QyVptVNo-yaRcPg!2e0
This faded one is on US 1 and 9 in Jersey City, NJ. With the Pulaski Skyway being redone, I am sure that NJDOT will not only replace the sign panels that are beyond worn, but remove "Tonelle Ave." as well and maybe use NYC instead.
Definitely counts.
This example no longer exists, but I think it's kinda what you're looking for.
In Las Vegas, when the 215 beltway was first constructed, the western end was a short distance from I-15 at the Decatur Blvd interchange. At that point, CC 215 had not even been designated yet. So they had about 1.5 miles between I-15 and Decatur with no number designation. If you were on westbound 215 going through the I-15 interchange, this was the sign you saw (Image from AARoads):
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/nevada215/i-215_il_exit_010b_02.jpg)
The concept here, in 1994 when that sign bridge was originally installed, was that you're pulling through to the Decatur Blvd interchange at that point...there was no other destination ahead. When the picture was taken, the sign was actually outdated as you pulled through to more than Decatur Blvd at that time.
That sign persisted for a little while after the frontage road network was built west of Decatur Blvd (that image was taken in 2000, after frontage roads were opened). If memory serves, that sign was replaced with a "BEGIN 215" pull-through around 2003 or so, when some of the freeway stretches opened on the western segment of the beltway.
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 06, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
The inbound HOV bridge on I-395 in the District of Columbia used to have a pull-through sign listing "12th Street" underneath the I-395 NORTH legend. It's been replaced with a new sign listing Capitol Hill, Verizon Center, and Nationals Park (which correspond to the signs over the non-HOV carriageway). I suppose sports venues probably aren't all that standard on pull-through signs either!
Alps has a photo of the sign I mentioned:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Falpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fdc%2Fi-395%2Fnw1_1.jpg&hash=11b6ea0c0ed33e329ddefdcd7f99490dfd0d23b4)
Quote from: roadfro on May 08, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
This example no longer exists, but I think it's kinda what you're looking for.
In Las Vegas, when the 215 beltway was first constructed, the western end was a short distance from I-15 at the Decatur Blvd interchange. At that point, CC 215 had not even been designated yet. So they had about 1.5 miles between I-15 and Decatur with no number designation. If you were on westbound 215 going through the I-15 interchange, this was the sign you saw (Image from AARoads):
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/nevada215/i-215_il_exit_010b_02.jpg)
Was there ever a shield on that sign? Looks like there's a lot of space for one. Or is it just Nevada keeping signs uniform in height?
California examples that come to mind:
- Route 35 at Route 1 in Daly City, where the pullthroughs identify "Skyline Boulevard" along the short freeway segment of 35 with no control city in either direction:
http://goo.gl/maps/1cnDD
http://goo.gl/maps/HR37N
- US 101 south at Route 1 in San Francisco's Presidio, with "Marina Boulevard" as the control city. (For many years, the Doyle Drive through lanes - which would have carried 480 to the unbuilt Fisherman's Wharf section - led to Marina Boulevard with 101 using a semi-directional Y to access Richardson Avenue; this is no longer the case with the newer Presidio Parkway alignment)
http://goo.gl/maps/wDhRX
- I-280 north at US 101 in San Francisco, with "Sixth Street" as a control city:
http://goo.gl/maps/wVRaA
This was repeated a few miles further down at the Cesar Chavez (Army) exit, though not sure if the sign is still up:
http://goo.gl/maps/zZ4Ot
Sixth eventually exits off of 280 near its north terminus (providing a street-level connector to I-80), but the mainline lanes lead to King Street (which eventually becomes The Embarcadero). Prior to the construction of the ballpark, the northbound mainline lanes continued on until a ramp at 3rd Street.
- Route 1 at I-280 in Daly City, even though 1 is marked as an exit off 280 - signed for 19th Avenue (which is a mile from this junction). (In the original SF freeway planning, 280 was supposed to continue north along the Junipero Serra Freeway here to Golden Gate Park, though that route was only completed to Brotherhood Way)
http://goo.gl/maps/P1K1A
- I-710 north at I-10 in Monterey Park, signed for the terminus at Valley Boulevard:
http://goo.gl/maps/99dHk
- I-380 east at US 101 in San Bruno; while listed as an exit, "North Access Road" is what the mainline becomes after crossing the Bayshore Freeway:
http://goo.gl/maps/JkbPN
- Route 125 north at Route 52 in Santee, mainline signed for Mission Gorge Road/end freeway.
http://goo.gl/maps/q8npU
- I-8 west near the San Diego Sports Arena, signed for Nimitz Boulevard/Sunset Cliffs Boulevard
http://goo.gl/maps/mTXVu
- Route 78 west at I-5 in Oceanside, the through lane is signed for Vista Way
http://goo.gl/maps/4rl3J
- I-105 west at Route 1 in El Segundo, signed for Imperial Highway
http://goo.gl/maps/6rWmG
- US 101 north at Mission Street in SF, the mainline Central Freeway is signed as an exit for Octavia Boulevard. (Prior to 1989 this was indeed the 101 mainline heading towards Golden Gate Avenue)
http://goo.gl/maps/goKvg
Dyckman Street at the northern end of the Harlem River Drive.
This practice is somewhat confusing, since my first impression of these is that the road listed is the one I am on (i.e. in the first image in the thread, I would interpret that as the freeway being called Warren Street). There is precedent for this; in Kansas City, KS, US-69 follows a freeway called 18th Street Expy.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@28.559973,-81.190966,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5b4HZevW1eXeGy5_3cXYHg!2e0)
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.559973,-81.190966,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5b4HZevW1eXeGy5_3cXYHg!2e0
This one here at the end of FL 408 (eastern terminus) where the freeway defaults onto Challenger Parkway.
IIRC, the pullthrough signs along the MN 77 freeway include "Cedar Ave", the name of the highway.
At the southern end on the Adirondack Northway in Albany, NY near exits 1E-W, we have the sign, "TO US 20 WESTERN AVENUE" with two pull-throughs.
I noticed the no-arrow provision. That would invalidate my last example as well as this one: Hillside Ave./NY 25 at the end of the Clearview Expressway in Queens Village.
Quote from: Zeffy on May 08, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 08, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
This example no longer exists, but I think it's kinda what you're looking for.
In Las Vegas, when the 215 beltway was first constructed, the western end was a short distance from I-15 at the Decatur Blvd interchange. At that point, CC 215 had not even been designated yet. So they had about 1.5 miles between I-15 and Decatur with no number designation. If you were on westbound 215 going through the I-15 interchange, this was the sign you saw (Image from AARoads):
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/nevada215/i-215_il_exit_010b_02.jpg)
Was there ever a shield on that sign? Looks like there's a lot of space for one. Or is it just Nevada keeping signs uniform in height?
That sign never had a shield. It always just said "Decatur Blvd". Signs on the ramps from I-15 to the 215 heading towards this westbound direction also said Decatur Blvd. At some point, all were changed (with greenout, I think) to remove Decatur Blvd and add West CC-215 shields.
Likely, it was uniform sign height.
No photo at this time, but I-49 in Shreveport has I-20 as an exit, while the pull through sign is for Pete Harris Drive and Murphy Street.
Nexus 7
Cincinnati's Sixth Street Viaduct has "River Rd" on all its WB pull thrus:
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101629,-84.523718&spn=0.003301,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.10161,-84.52396&panoid=v3foALYXOmwGTyWom_H-tg&cbp=12,246.91,,0,-7.15
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101042,-84.527575&spn=0.003301,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.101072,-84.527407&panoid=NccYZFhNNMQv1YYUv_xPjg&cbp=12,236.66,,0,-4.59
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101338,-84.54326&spn=0.001495,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.101339,-84.54326&panoid=991V_a0Mqzf75JB4bkoPBg&cbp=12,267.41,,0,-5.56
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101991,-84.545991&spn=0.001494,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.102006,-84.546126&panoid=1ZKdnzQS05Gu36VP-IFNuQ&cbp=12,274.38,,0,-2.47
There are some along SR 43 in Canton, OH:
- NB at 11th St SE: http://goo.gl/maps/6p1mT
- SB at 11th St SE: http://goo.gl/maps/2IKrW
- SB at 3rd St SE is a sloppy one that omits SR 43 and calls it Cherry Lane rather than Cherry Avenue: http://goo.gl/maps/ypX06
I-287 service road in Westchester Cty, NY
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3682/9883098994_467a902160.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/9422312741_151d8cfcae.jpg)
Quote from: doofy103 on May 22, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
I-287 service road in Westchester Cty, NY
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3682/9883098994_467a902160.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/9422312741_151d8cfcae.jpg)
The caveat here is that the service road
is Westchester Ave.
Here's one that makes me cringe often.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.088332,-75.303181,3a,75y,292.91h,92.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sqTKT_mGHxqT5TN0a2ggYMA!2e0
Quote from: roadman65 on May 07, 2014, 08:38:18 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.736224,-74.085793,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIKaMZo6QyVptVNo-yaRcPg!2e0
This faded one is on US 1 and 9 in Jersey City, NJ. With the Pulaski Skyway being redone, I am sure that NJDOT will not only replace the sign panels that are beyond worn, but remove "Tonelle Ave." as well and maybe use NYC instead.
The panels and structure will indeed be replaced. The right panel will be more of an advance exit panel, as U.S. 1&9 exits itself in about 3/4 mile. Downstream will be a pull-through sign for NJ 139.
Man, how could I forget this one (http://goo.gl/maps/DEjtF) in Northeast Philly.
Quote from: upstatenyroads on May 28, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Here's one that makes me cringe often.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.088332,-75.303181,3a,75y,292.91h,92.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sqTKT_mGHxqT5TN0a2ggYMA!2e0
Ahhh! The _______ boxed road names! :no: (Feel free to fill in the blank--no need to post, though.)
I like the boxed road names. Always have.
Quote from: vtk on May 17, 2014, 05:36:50 PM
Cincinnati's Sixth Street Viaduct has "River Rd" on all its WB pull thrus:
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101629,-84.523718&spn=0.003301,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.10161,-84.52396&panoid=v3foALYXOmwGTyWom_H-tg&cbp=12,246.91,,0,-7.15
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101042,-84.527575&spn=0.003301,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.101072,-84.527407&panoid=NccYZFhNNMQv1YYUv_xPjg&cbp=12,236.66,,0,-4.59
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101338,-84.54326&spn=0.001495,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.101339,-84.54326&panoid=991V_a0Mqzf75JB4bkoPBg&cbp=12,267.41,,0,-5.56
https://maps.google.com/maps?vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&ll=39.101991,-84.545991&spn=0.001494,0.005466&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.102006,-84.546126&panoid=1ZKdnzQS05Gu36VP-IFNuQ&cbp=12,274.38,,0,-2.47
Some or all of these may be gone now. I noticed a brand new gantry today just beyond the Gest St exit, with a Lynn/Dalton advance guide sign and a FREEWAY ENDS 1 MILE BYS, and no pull-thru. Also, some weird boxy gantry structures on I-75 SB and related ramps in this area; not sure if those were there before.