http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Route_N7_(California)#N7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Route_N7_(California)#N7)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_107 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_107)
CA-107 Harthorne Blvd is multiplex with County route N7 in Los Angeles county is this true in other places besides Florida.
I believe Alabama state route 210 has no independent segments.
Illinois 110. Completely concurrent with interstates, US highways, and state routes. Only reason for being is business boosters from the Quincy area.
NJ 165 is totally multiplexed with NJ 29.
IN 265 is entirely duplexed with IN 62
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
I believe Alabama state route 210 has no independent segments.
There's no overlap in the circle's gap between US 231 (11 o'clock) and US 431 (1 o'clock). I don't think there are any completely standalone AL 210 shields, though.
FL 5, 15, 25, 35, 700 come close, but they each have a short non-concurrency. They were planned and numbered before US Routes were extended over them (or moved away from them). There's several other secret numbers for interstates and freeways that aren't signed multiplexes, which don't count.
while we're at it, I believe every US route in Georgia (and possibly Alabama as well) has a state number as well. sometimes these diverge (GA-25 follows most of current US-17, but some of old US-17 as well) but I think some are entirely underneath current US routes.
the only example I could find offhand is GA-7 is entirely under US-41 and US-341.
As best as I can tell, Alabama doesn't expose the secret state numbers on US Routes like Georgia does (GA 1 for US 27, for example). Sometimes a contractor in Florida lets a few slip by.
Quote from: formulanone on May 22, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
I believe Alabama state route 210 has no independent segments.
There's no overlap in the circle's gap between US 231 (11 o'clock) and US 431 (1 o'clock). I don't think there are any completely standalone AL 210 shields, though.
That's US 84, unless that's changed in just the last few months (which, interestingly, Google Maps seems to be saying it has, though I can't corroborate that with the ALDOT website).
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
while we're at it, I believe every US route in Georgia (and possibly Alabama as well) has a state number as well. sometimes these diverge (GA-25 follows most of current US-17, but some of old US-17 as well) but I think some are entirely underneath current US routes.
the only example I could find offhand is GA-7 is entirely under US-41 and US-341.
Sit back, this may take a while...
(note: some of these might follow Business US routes in some cities, but you get the idea)
GA 1: US 27
GA 3: US 41 north of Atlanta, US 19 south of Atlanta (forgot about that section north of Thomasville where it stays on old US 19)
GA 4: US 1 (independent segment in Augusta, per Mapmikey below)
GA 7: US 41 and US 341 (as you mentioned)
GA 8: US 78 west of Atlanta, US 29 east of Atlanta
GA 12: US 278
GA 35: US 319
GA 38: US 84
GA 50: US 82
GA 89: US 441
GA 282: US 76
GA 365: US 123, US 23, and I-985
(Okay, maybe not as many as I thought.)
Quote from: Eth on May 22, 2014, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 22, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
I believe Alabama state route 210 has no independent segments.
There's no overlap in the circle's gap between US 231 (11 o'clock) and US 431 (1 o'clock). I don't think there are any completely standalone AL 210 shields, though.
That's US 84, unless that's changed in just the last few months (which, interestingly, Google Maps seems to be saying it has, though I can't corroborate that with the ALDOT website).
I think US 84 Business just continues through, splitting The Circle in half. I had my kids in the car last month when I was down there, so I might have been distracted...but you're right, it should be US 84. Unless it did change very recently (more likely to be a Google error).
WV 55 comes close. It is 228 miles long but only the westernmost 12 miles between US 19 at Muddlety and WV 20 at Craigsville and a 0.9-mile connector roadway to US 48 in Moorefield are not multiplexed. From Craigsville, it is multiplexed with WV 20, WV 39, US 219 (plus US 250/WV 92), US 33, WV 28, US 220, and US 48 (plus WV 259).
Quote from: Eth on May 22, 2014, 04:09:03 PM
GA 1: US 27
GA 3: US 41 north of Atlanta, US 19 south of Atlanta (forgot about that section north of Thomasville where it stays on old US 19)
GA 4: US 1
GA 7: US 41 and US 341 (as you mentioned)
GA 8: US 78 west of Atlanta, US 29 east of Atlanta
GA 12: US 278
GA 35: US 319
GA 38: US 84
GA 50: US 82
GA 89: US 441
GA 282: US 76
GA 365: US 123, US 23, and I-985
(Okay, maybe not as many as I thought.)
GA 4 has an independent segment in Augusta - http://goo.gl/maps/s1WjS
How about GA 515?
Mapmikey
Quote from: bing101 on May 22, 2014, 11:41:11 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Route_N7_(California)#N7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_107
CA-101 Harthorne Blvd is multiplex with County route N7 in Los Angeles county is this true in other places besides Florida.
State 107 isn't cosigned with County N7. They end at the same spot (State 1) but do not overlap.
FL 93 multiplexes the entire length with I-75 then with I-275 after splitting in Tampa and then again with I-75.
Quote from: Bitmapped on May 22, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
WV 55 comes close. It is 228 miles long but only the westernmost 12 miles between US 19 at Muddlety and WV 20 at Craigsville and a 0.9-mile connector roadway to US 48 in Moorefield are not multiplexed. From Craigsville, it is multiplexed with WV 20, WV 39, US 219 (plus US 250/WV 92), US 33, WV 28, US 220, and US 48 (plus WV 259).
The last several times I've been through there, WV 55 is routed off that connector route (that exit for East Moorefield is one of the old ends of Corridor H when only the segment between there and Baker was open) and stayed concurrent with US 48 to the US 220/WV 28 exit. IIRC, exit signage westbound is for US 220 and WV 55 with no mention of WV 28, and exit signage eastbound is for 220 and WV 28 with no mention of 55.
In that case, GA 515 and GA 520 would seem to also fit the bill, but they also denote "corridors".
GA 520 has two independent segments: between US 280 and GA 45 (about 25 miles long), and the eastern end at Jekyll Island.
515 would count, though.
NJ 64 is entirely multiplexed with CR 571.
How about all Utah state routes whose main service is being an Interstate's business route?
There's UT-19 (BL-70 Green River), UT-34 (St. George, part of BL-15), UT-58 (Wendover, part of BL-80), UT-99 (BL-15 Fillmore), UT-120 (BL-70 Richfield), UT-160 (BL-15 Beaver), UT-271 (Parowan, part of BL-15), and UT-274 (Parowan, another part of BL-15).
Not sure about BL-15/84 from Brigham City/Tremonton and their actual routings, but possibly UT-13 could carry BL-15 all the way up to Plymouth. Not likely though.
my 1965 map shows UT-99 heading north out of Delta. was this ever connected to the Fillmore area, or are they two completely different uses of the same number?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 09:08:00 PM
my 1965 map shows UT-99 heading north out of Delta. was this ever connected to the Fillmore area, or are they two completely different uses of the same number?
According to Wikipedia (and Dan Stober's defunct site), UT-99 was assigned to a road connecting the Topaz War Relocation Center to Delta, from the 1930s to 1969. This iteration was assigned in 1969, coinciding with I-15's construction through the area. So, I would probably guess not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_19
CA-164 is a hidden Route within CA-19
If LA 3175 is still in the system, although unsigned, it shares pavement with 1 and 6 around Natchitoches
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
while we're at it, I believe every US route in Georgia (and possibly Alabama as well) has a state number as well. sometimes these diverge (GA-25 follows most of current US-17, but some of old US-17 as well) but I think some are entirely underneath current US routes.
the only example I could find offhand is GA-7 is entirely under US-41 and US-341.
Tennessee is the same way. All interstates have a secret state number
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If we are including business routes - State 204 in Bakersfield, CA is entirely cosigned with State 99 Business.
Quote from: Rover_0 on May 22, 2014, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 09:08:00 PM
my 1965 map shows UT-99 heading north out of Delta. was this ever connected to the Fillmore area, or are they two completely different uses of the same number?
According to Wikipedia (and Dan Stober's defunct site), UT-99 was assigned to a road connecting the Topaz War Relocation Center to Delta, from the 1930s to 1969. This iteration was assigned in 1969, coinciding with I-15's construction through the area. So, I would probably guess not.
thanks for the info! I drove what I believe is old 99 and there are some older green signs present, but I don't know if they are so old that they date back to before 1969.
I think Iowa 27 is since it's meant to be avenue of the saints
Quote from: texaskdog on May 23, 2014, 09:57:00 AM
I think Iowa 27 is since it's meant to be avenue of the saints
The south end of IA-27 is an independent route from U.S. 218 to the Iowa-Missouri border. It used to have a different designation (394?).
I believe in California, US-70 ran concurrently with US-60 and/or US-99 for its entire length.
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on May 23, 2014, 02:48:48 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
while we're at it, I believe every US route in Georgia (and possibly Alabama as well) has a state number as well. sometimes these diverge (GA-25 follows most of current US-17, but some of old US-17 as well) but I think some are entirely underneath current US routes.
the only example I could find offhand is GA-7 is entirely under US-41 and US-341.
Tennessee is the same way. All interstates have a secret state number
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All designated US highways have a secret state number in Tennessee, however, the interstates do not. Are you saying that they do? If so what are they?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 10:37:58 AM
I believe in California, US-70 ran concurrently with US-60 and/or US-99 for its entire length.
Yes, US 70 was never on its own in California. US 466 was also cosigned with another US route (US 93 and US 91) in Arizona and Nevada, respectively.
US-466 went up 91 and down 93 in the Vegas area? there was never an independent routing?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 12:15:37 PM
US-466 went up 91 and down 93 in the Vegas area? there was never an independent routing?
Correct. It wasn't until Barstow that US 466 was finally on its own. It really should have started in Barstow, though would have been briefly cosigned with US 91 across the ATSF Barstow yard.
Quote from: sdmichael on May 23, 2014, 12:39:22 PM
Correct. It wasn't until Barstow that US 466 was finally on its own. It really should have started in Barstow, though would have been briefly cosigned with US 91 across the ATSF Barstow yard.
or it could have been US-291 or something. I forget how the number parities work for branch US routes that run perpendicular to their parents, so I'm using US-299 as a reference.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on May 23, 2014, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on May 23, 2014, 02:48:48 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 22, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
while we're at it, I believe every US route in Georgia (and possibly Alabama as well) has a state number as well. sometimes these diverge (GA-25 follows most of current US-17, but some of old US-17 as well) but I think some are entirely underneath current US routes.
the only example I could find offhand is GA-7 is entirely under US-41 and US-341.
Tennessee is the same way. All interstates have a secret state number
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All designated US highways have a secret state number in Tennessee, however, the interstates do not. Are you saying that they do? If so what are they?
I'll see if I can find it. It seems looking at Tennessee state maps that interstates were numbered. I want to say I-75 was TN 2. I'll look when I get home from work. I could be mistaken
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
or it could have been US-291 or something. I forget how the number parities work for branch US routes that run perpendicular to their parents, so I'm using US-299 as a reference.
IIRC, until the 4xx numbers came into being, the original run of 3-digit US routes were numbered in order of creation, with no factoring in of direction or returning to parent route at all.
Quote from: TheStranger on May 23, 2014, 03:45:02 PM
IIRC, until the 4xx numbers came into being, the original run of 3-digit US routes were numbered in order of creation, with no factoring in of direction or returning to parent route at all.
that makes sense for why the x60 branches are so oddly located.
160 - 1930
260 - 1932
360 - 1933
460 - 1934
I think for simultaneous creations, there was an ordering from north to south, or from east to west. at least, this fits with the x01s, x99s, x66es, etc. (the first 466 slotted in logically between 366 and 566)