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Title: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: mcdonaat on May 26, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Driving west along US 190, I noticed that, in Newton, you had "Loop 505." However, it wasn't a loop, since SH 87 does the looping, and it basically is a different name for "Business SH 87."

Maybe someone from that area could help me figure out why it's called Loop 505 instead of Business 87 or just SH 505.
Title: Re: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: Brian556 on May 26, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
This is a somewhat common practice in Texas to give the old alignment of a highway through a town a loop designation instead of a business [parent highway] designation. Some are even given FM designations.

Prior to 1991, all Business Routes had a hidden loop or spur designation. In 1991, they eliminated these hidden designations. There also were and still are some, like the one mentioned, that are actually signed as a loop, and that is their only designation.
Title: Re: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: mcdonaat on May 27, 2014, 12:01:39 AM
That's weird, because we never sign our loops as loops, just bypasses, but I actually took Loop 505 today (GPS-free trip) and ended up going through a residential part of Newton... only to give up and turn around, and take 190 out of town.

Is it just a SW Texas thing to have EVERY CR signed on the main road? Also, what's up with vague destinations? Post office? To Co Rd XXXX? I even thought I saw a sign pointed to a school that closed a few years ago.
Title: Re: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: Brian556 on May 27, 2014, 10:54:26 AM
QuoteIs it just a SW Texas thing to have EVERY CR signed on the main road? Also, what's up with vague destinations? Post office? To Co Rd XXXX? I even thought I saw a sign pointed to a school that closed a few years ago.

Depends on what area you are in. They do this in Wise County, but not Denton County.
Title: Re: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: US71 on May 27, 2014, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on May 26, 2014, 11:57:32 PM
This is a somewhat common practice in Texas to give the old alignment of a highway through a town a loop designation instead of a business [parent highway] designation. Some are even given FM designations.

Prior to 1991, all Business Routes had a hidden loop or spur designation. In 1991, they eliminated these hidden designations. There also were and still are some, like the one mentioned, that are actually signed as a loop, and that is their only designation.


Loop 157 in Tenaha appears to be Old US 59 and old US 96.
Title: Re: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: US81 on May 27, 2014, 01:09:04 PM
Quote from: mcdonaat on May 27, 2014, 12:01:39 AM

Is it just a SW Texas thing to have EVERY CR signed on the main road? Also, what's up with vague destinations? Post office? To Co Rd XXXX? I even thought I saw a sign pointed to a school that closed a few years ago.

I definitely see it in mostly rural counties and not so much in the more urban areas.
Title: Re: A question about loops in Texas
Post by: US71 on May 27, 2014, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: mcdonaat on May 27, 2014, 12:01:39 AM

Is it just a SW Texas thing to have EVERY CR signed on the main road? Also, what's up with vague destinations? Post office? To Co Rd XXXX? I even thought I saw a sign pointed to a school that closed a few years ago.
I saw in Bowie, Cass, Van Zandt, and numerous other counties. Longview even has signs pointing the way to various politician offices (like Louie Gohmert).