Excluding Hawaii, are there any state counties (or parishes as LA does not have counties) that have no US routes within them.
I have come up with these so far:
Cumberland, NJ
Nassau, NY
Suffolk, NY
Queens, NY
Kings, NY
Richmond, NY
Any other state counties?
Bristol, RI
Newport, RI
I'm guessing this will be a fairly long list. Without thinking beyond counties that are right in my area, I came up with 3: Montgomery, Fulton and Hamilton counties in NY.
Illinois:
Stark
Putnam (has I-180)
Menard
Calhoun
Macoupin (has I-55, formerly US-66; also formerly US-67)
Montgomery (has I-55, formerly US-66)
Crawford
Edwards
Wabash
Hamilton (formerly US-460)
Hardin
Pope
Randolph
Virginia:
Craig
Charles City
Westmoreland
Dickenson (for now)
plus 3 independent cities:
Poquoson
Manassas
Manassas Park
Mapmikey
Quote from: roadman65 on June 12, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
Excluding Hawaii, are there any state counties (or parishes as LA does not have counties) that have no US routes within them?
Alaska has boroughs and other county equivalents, none of which have US routes.
For a few more lower-48 examples, there are Storey County NV (not counting I-80 along its northern border); Alpine County CA; San Diego, Orange, Imperial, Alameda, and Contra Costa counties in CA (these five each have one or more Interstates); and Hinsdale County CO. But there are many, many more, especially in California which doesn't have much of a US route network any more.
how about any without even any STATE highways?
Quote from: texaskdog on June 12, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
how about any without even any STATE highways?
Alaska and Hawaii are the go-to places for that one, if you count only numbered highways:
Hawaii: Kalawao County (Hawaii DOT maintains its roads as needed for the state Department of Health which administers the county, but none of those roads are numbered or included in the state highway system)
Alaska (all have unnumbered Alaska DOT&PF-maintained roads -- most roads of any significance in Alaska are state-maintained):
Northwest Arctic Borough
Aleutians East Borough
Lake and Peninsula Borough
Bristol Bay Borough
Kodiak Island Borough
City & Borough of Yakutat
City & Borough of Sitka
City & Borough of Wrangell
also a bunch of census areas within the Unorganized Borough (some other census areas in that borough have numbered state highways), if you choose to treat census areas as county equivalents:
Aleutians West
Nome
Wade Hampton
Bethel
Dillingham
Hoonah-Angoon
Prince of Wales-Hyder
I want to say we've had a similar thread in the past, but I couldn't find it after a quick search.
In Vermont, only Lamoille County lacks US routes.
Minnesota has a dozen counties that lack US routes. The counties I list below with an asterisk also lack Interstate routes:
- Carlton
- Cook*
- Isanti*
- Kanabec*
- Lake*
- Lake of the Woods*
- Martin
- Pine
- Pope*
- Rice
- Roseau*
- Watonwan*
Mississippi also has some, all of which also lack Interstate routes:
- Attala
- Calhoun
- Neshoba
- Smith
- Winston
Seems like we've had this discussion before.
There are several in my area of Kentucky: Lee, Owsley, Breathitt, Estill, Powell, Wolfe, Perry, Elliott, Martin, Knott, Lewis and Clinton come to mind immediately. There are others...
Nantucket, MA
Dukes, MA
Cumberland, NJ
Quote from: texaskdog on June 12, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
how about any without even any STATE highways?
Virginia did have this condition in the system's early days...
Charles City County had no primary routes from the system creation in January 1918 until June 1923 when VA 41 was commissioned. Then they suffered the insult of their first state highway not connecting to any other state highway until January 1925.
Mapmikey
MD: St Mary's, Calvert, Caroline
The discussion we had before was County Seats That Never Had A US Route. Slightly different query.
Just in the Puget Sound area, Pierce, Kitsap, Island, Shake, and Whatcom all do not. Further south, I think Cowlitz and Clark are both US Route free. Beyond that, I'd have to double check boundaries and whatnot.
Michigan has a bigger club than I expected, and more counties are in it due to decommissionings and truncations than I thought:
Barry
Calhoun (lost 12, 27)
Chippewa (lost 2)
Eaton (lost 27)
Gladwin
Huron (lost 25)
Ionia (lost 16)
Lapeer
Leelanau
Luce
Macomb (lost 25)
Missaukee
Montmorency
Newaygo
Ogemaw
Oscoda
Otsego (lost 27)
Owosso
St. Clair (lost 25)
Sanilac (lost 25)
Tuscola
Georgia: Baker, Calhoun, Candler, Cherokee, Elbert, Fayette, Franklin, Glascock, Hancock, Jasper,Macon, Marion, Pickens, Washington counties.
This is a relatively small proportion of Georgia's 158 counties. I was surprised to see even that many, given how many US routes crisscross the state.
Several in Indiana with no US highway:
Blackford
Brown
Crawford (but has an interstate)
Monroe (but will soon have an interstate)
Morgan (but has an interstate)
Ohio
Perry (but has an interstate)
Pike (but has an interstate)
Posey (but has an interstate)
Switzerland
Warrick (but has an interstate)
Loving County TX
Lake County TN
Florida: Calhoun, Liberty, Union
Alabama: Wilcox, Clay
San Juan County, WA has no Interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways.
Quote from: rschen7754 on June 12, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
San Juan County, WA has no Interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways.
Technically incorrect- it doesn't have any physical state highways, but State Route 20 Spur is designated over the ferry routes that serve the county.
Quote from: corco on June 12, 2014, 02:30:52 PM
Quote from: rschen7754 on June 12, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
San Juan County, WA has no Interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways.
Technically incorrect- it doesn't have any physical state highways, but State Route 20 Spur is designated over the ferry routes that serve the county.
SR 20 really should end in the San Juans. It's a much better terminus than Discovery Bay.
More for New YorK:
Orleans (though it used to have US 104)
Monroe (though it used to have US 15 and US 104)
Wayne (though it used to have US 104)
Allegany
Yates
Schuyler
Tompkins
Chemung
I county I live in Orange County in CA has no US routes. It has 2 former routes that were decommissioned, US-91 and US-101 (Alt US-101 could count as a third former route)
Louisiana:
Cameron
Plaquemines
Iberville
West Carroll
Assumption
East Feliciana
St. Helena
Quote from: corco on June 12, 2014, 02:30:52 PM
Quote from: rschen7754 on June 12, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
San Juan County, WA has no Interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways.
Technically incorrect- it doesn't have any physical state highways, but State Route 20 Spur is designated over the ferry routes that serve the county.
Ach... I said Island, but meant San Juan and/or forgot they were two separate counties. (Both qualify for the thread; Island has several state highways.)
California has:
Alameda (used to have 40, 50)
Alpine
Amador
Butte (used to have 99)
Calaveras
Colusa (used to have 99)
Contra Costa (used to have 40)
Fresno (used to have 99)
Glenn (used to have 99)
Imperial (used to have 80, 99)
Kings
Lake
Madera (used to have 99)
Merced (used to have 99)
Napa
Nevada (used to have 40)
Orange (used to have 91 and 101)
San Diego (used to have 80, 101, and 395)
San Joaquin (used to have 50, 99)
Santa Cruz
Shasta (used to have 99, 299)
Solano (used to have 40)
Stanislaus (used to have 99)
Sutter (used to have 99)
Tehama (used to have 99)
Trinity (used to have 299)
Tulare (used to have 99)
Tuolumne
Yuba (used to have 99)
Hawaii does not even have a US Route. But they have state routes.
WI:
Burnett, Menominee, Adams, Green Lake, Door, Kewaunee, Sheboygan*, Ozaukee, Green
* - US-141 passed through this county before being replaced by I-43.
Looks like there are only six in West Virginia: Clay, Pleasants, Summers, Tyler, Webster and Wirt. And if I'm not mistaken, Wirt only went on this list because US 21 bit the dust. Ditto for Summers because it used to have Alt. US 50. And Clay and Summers have interstates.
Lincoln County (homeplace of my Elkins ancestors) gets clipped barely by US 119, but would have been without had not the new alignment been built.
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 13, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
WI:
Burnett, Menominee, Adams, Green Lake, Door, Kewaunee, Sheboygan*, Ozaukee, Green
* - US-141 passed through this county before being replaced by I-43.
Put the same asterisk for Ozaukee County. US 141 went down all the way to Milwaukee.
Iowa: Appanoose, Butler*, Emmet, Guthrie**, Keokuk***, Monona****, Pocahontas, Taylor, and Van Buren.
*Had US 20 until 1986, and US 218 misses it by about a mile.
**I-80 and US 6 miss it by about a mile.
***Not the city of Keokuk, which is in Lee County and served by three US highways (61, 136, and 218)
****Has I-29 and had US 75 until 1984.
TX: Aransas, Bandera, Briscoe, Burleson, Chambers, Cochran, Delta, Galveston*, Grimes, Hansford, Hutchinson, Jim Hogg, La Salle**, Loving, Martin***, Matagorda, Midland***, Mitchell***, Ward***, Winkler
* -- previously had US 75; ** -- previously had US 81; *** -- previously had US 80
Out of 254 counties, only 20 don't have US highways; if not for truncations, there would only be 14 counties without a US highway presence. Sounds like TX is quite represented by the (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpic20.picturetrail.com%2FVOL1724%2F9497942%2F24536499%2F409631968.jpg&hash=96ee865fca1f35f5711cb194783bd4ddb1a5e8dd).
Arkansas has several, and used to have more before US 63, 278, 371, and 412 were commissioned/extended. Cleburne, Izard, Perry, Stone, and Yell Counties have never had US routes. Bradley and Madison Counties didn't have a US highway until the extension boom of the '80s, '90s, and '00s. Several counties like Logan, Newton, and Dallas County have US highways barely cutting through the corner of the county but most of the county is US route free. If you went back to 1926 the list would be even longer.
Quote from: froggie on June 12, 2014, 10:34:06 AM
I want to say we've had a similar thread in the past, but I couldn't find it after a quick search.
Mississippi also has some, all of which also lack Interstate routes:
- Attala
- Calhoun
- Neshoba
- Smith
- Winston
I seem to recall such a thread, too.
Leake County, MS, also doesn't have an US route.
Oregon:
Wallowa Co. (remote area, city of Enterprise and Joseph)
Jackson Co. (Medford, Ashland; formerly US-99)
Yamhill Co. (McMinnville; formerly US-99W)
Marion Co. (Salem, formerly US-99E)
That's all of them I could find. I find it funny that most of these are along the most populated areas of the state (which, to be fair, is former US-99), while the more remote counties in eastern Oregon all have at least one US route (except Wallowa). Those counties are larger in size though.
New Mexico: Bernalillo (largest county in population) formerly US 66 & 85
Cibola (formerly US 66)
Los Alamos ( formerly none)
Harding (formerly none)
Mora (formerly US 85)
Sierra (formerly US 85 & 180)
Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 13, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
Louisiana:
Cameron
Plaquemines
Iberville
West Carroll
Assumption
East Feliciana
St. Helena
Also St. Bernard and Washington.
Iberville is interesting in that I-10 goes right through it, but it never had a US route.
St. Martin lucks out with a very short piece of US 90.
Washington:
San Juan County
Island County
Skagit County (formerly US 99)
Whatcom County (formerly US 99)
Pierce County (formerly US 99 and originally US 410)
Kitsap County
Wahkiakum County (Formerly US 830)
Cowlitz County (Formerly US 99/830)
Clark County (Formerly US 99/830)
Skamania County (Formerly US 830)
Quote from: jbnv on June 16, 2014, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 13, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
Louisiana:
Cameron
Plaquemines
Iberville
West Carroll
Assumption
East Feliciana
St. Helena
Also St. Bernard and Washington.
Iberville is interesting in that I-10 goes right through it, but it never had a US route.
St. Martin lucks out with a very short piece of US 90.
Does St Bernard have a portion of Bus 90 running through it? Doesn't it and Orleans parish have some strange lines that don't follow the river?
I remember the US 90 snippet of St Martin Parish near Broussard. But the southern St Martin parish doesn't have any :D
Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 18, 2014, 12:37:47 AM
Does St Bernard have a portion of Bus 90 running through it? Doesn't it and Orleans parish have some strange lines that don't follow the river?
There are quite a few zigzags in the parish lines in that area, but none of them give any part of BUS 90 to St. Bernard. Coming out of New Orleans and over the river on BUS 90, you enter Jefferson Parish at mid-river, go
back into Orleans Parish shortly after coming over land, then re-enter Jefferson Parish for good shortly after passing over General Degaulle Dr.
For fun, you could exit at General Degaulle Dr. and folloow LA 407 south to LA 406 to Belle Chasse. If you do that, you'll pass through Orleans, Plaquemines (over the waterway), Orleans (407 ramp to 406), Plaquemines (after left turn), Orleans, Plaquemines.
As far as I can tell, no such fun for St. Bernard.
US-61 passes through East Feliciana between Baton Rouge and St. Francisville and US-90 passes through Assumption just outside of Morgan City.
Quote from: jbnv on June 18, 2014, 02:57:18 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on June 18, 2014, 12:37:47 AM
Does St Bernard have a portion of Bus 90 running through it? Doesn't it and Orleans parish have some strange lines that don't follow the river?
There are quite a few zigzags in the parish lines in that area, but none of them give any part of BUS 90 to St. Bernard. Coming out of New Orleans and over the river on BUS 90, you enter Jefferson Parish at mid-river, go back into Orleans Parish shortly after coming over land, then re-enter Jefferson Parish for good shortly after passing over General Degaulle Dr.
For fun, you could exit at General Degaulle Dr. and folloow LA 407 south to LA 406 to Belle Chasse. If you do that, you'll pass through Orleans, Plaquemines (over the waterway), Orleans (407 ramp to 406), Plaquemines (after left turn), Orleans, Plaquemines.
As far as I can tell, no such fun for St. Bernard.
Uh, can't you read the topic? We're talking about counties, not parishes.
</attempt at humor>
Is Haskell County the only county in Oklahoma without a US route? Pontotoc County could technically qualify because US 377 north of Madill is not AASHTO approved.
Unless I'm missing something it looks like Pennsylvania has only one: Cameron. And that used to have US 120 until it was decommissioned in 1967.
Quote from: icemandrake on June 18, 2014, 05:44:24 PM
US-61 passes through East Feliciana between Baton Rouge and St. Francisville and US-90 passes through Assumption just outside of Morgan City.
Don't know how I missed both of these as I have driven both (the latter several times). X-(
Quote from: corco on June 12, 2014, 02:30:52 PM
Quote from: rschen7754 on June 12, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
San Juan County, WA has no Interstates, U.S. highways, or state highways.
Technically incorrect- it doesn't have any physical state highways, but State Route 20 Spur is designated over the ferry routes that serve the county.
I had forgotten just how tough that county is to clinch. I actually got it via the ferry from Victoria, back in 1998.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 14, 2014, 12:10:37 AM
Looks like there are only six in West Virginia: Clay, Pleasants, Summers, Tyler, Webster and Wirt. And if I'm not mistaken, Wirt only went on this list because US 21 bit the dust. Ditto for Summers because it used to have Alt. US 50. And Clay and Summers have interstates.
US 21 used to clip the corner of Wirt County. Alt US 50 was in Pleasants County, not Summers.
Quote from: Bitmapped on June 19, 2014, 11:24:10 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 14, 2014, 12:10:37 AM
Looks like there are only six in West Virginia: Clay, Pleasants, Summers, Tyler, Webster and Wirt. And if I'm not mistaken, Wirt only went on this list because US 21 bit the dust. Ditto for Summers because it used to have Alt. US 50. And Clay and Summers have interstates.
US 21 used to clip the corner of Wirt County. Alt US 50 was in Pleasants County, not Summers.
That's true, I had Pleasants and Summers mixed up. Summers is a long way away from US 50.
It'd be more common, I think, in states that have a lot of counties for their size. Probably Georgia, Texas, and Kentucky.
Georgia-
Candler County
Hancock County
Glascock County
Washington County
Jasper County
Baker County
Calhoun County
Macon County
Texas-
Hansford County
Hutchinson County
Jim Hogg County
La Salle County
Briscoe County
Loving County
Ward County
Winkler County
Martin County