In metro Detroit, M-53 has a freeway portion that does not connect to any other freeways - not at its north end, not at its south end, no interchanges. The closest it comes is with M-59, whose freeway section ends a mile west of M-53. M-53's freeway will likely never touch another freeway, unless traffic volumes someday justify extending it north to I-69.
How many other freeways out there have no connections with any other freeways?
Isolated freeway "systems" also count - for example, PA 611 and US 202 around Doylestown, PA have an interchange, but you can't reach any other freeways from the two. Essentially, these are freeways from which you can't access the Interstate Highway System without using surface roads somewhere.
Would NJ90 count, Without crossing the bridge you have only NJ73, a county road, US130 to connect to. NJ 33 has an isolated freeway section that only connects to US9
Many bypass routes. Also, the US 40 freeway in Baltimore wasn't supposed to be this, but it is.
Perhaps the category should be narrowed to exclude freeways that continue on in expressway/semi-expressway form on one or both ends. That said:
* The Elgin-O'Hare Expressway in Illinois, although construction is currently underway on the eastward extension that will connect it to I-290.
* The Amstutz Expressway/IL 137 in Waukegan - Originally intended though to connect to I-94 at the IL 137 interchange, although the east-west section along the east-west part of IL 137 didn't survive the EIS process. The isolated north-south section was supposed to be much longer though.
* IL 8/IL 116 from Washington Street in Peoria to Main Street in East Peoria
US 1 from just north of the Maryland state line to Kennett Square, PA.
Also, US 1 between Brunswick and Bath, ME.
NY 13 in Ithaca
NY 5S
Actually, pretty much every freeway in Region 2 is a partial example (due to the Thruway/I-790 interchange; also: the arterial)
Part of the Lake Ontario State Parkway if you're being anal
US 209/NY 199
US 4 west of Rutland
There's quite a lot of these - many bypass routes as mentioned above, including freeway segments with two lane roads on each end - Kutztown bypass (US 222) in PA for example.
US-20 in Norwalk, OH
US-62 and it's unnumbered segment US-62B in Alliance, OH
US-40/I-170 in Baltimore.
- Several outstate Minnesota bypasses.
- US 3/NH 11 Laconia, NH
- If we're including Super-2's, NH 101 Milford, NH
- US 7/VT 279 around and north of Bennington, VT
In California, we have the SR 29 bypass of Lakeport and the SR 20-49 bypass of Grass Valley/Nevada City. Neither of these short freeways connect to any other freeway.
As mentioned, there are many such roads along bypasses. The most interesting to me is the bypass around Seymour, Texas. It's built as a freeway, although it carries fewer than 3,000 vehicles per day and is in an isolated area that's losing population, which makes it seem like it may have been a bit overdesigned.
For Connecticut:
- Willmantic bypass on US 6
- CT 2 bypass of Mohegan Sun
- CT 78 (teeechnically)
The Kensington bypass was a former example but it is now hooked into CT 9.
US 123 in Upstate SC - Easley to Clemson
Rome, GA bypass
Griffith, GA bypass
Monroe, GA bypass
MidBay Connector around Niceville, FL
Amstutz Expressway - IL 137 north of Chicago.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 12, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
* IL 8/IL 116 from Washington Street in Peoria to Main Street in East Peoria
I never considered that to be a freeway, although I can see it now.
An isolated system that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned is I-2, I-69C, and future(?) I-69E in South Texas.
It's not surprising that most of these are bypasses. A fun one will be Georgia's Athens Perimeter once its last traffic light is removed, since it's essentially a beltway example of this!
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 12, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
Would NJ90 count, Without crossing the bridge you have only NJ73, a county road, US130 to connect to.
Why wouldn't you count the bridge? Because it crosses a state line? It's still a freeway that has a full interchange with I-95.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 12, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
Perhaps the category should be narrowed to exclude freeways that continue on in expressway/semi-expressway form on one or both ends.
Yeah, there's too many expressway examples to list, and I'd prefer to stay away from those. (I guess my first post breaks this rule, since M-53 has an expressway section at the northern end of its freeway section... but it doesn't break the spirit, since it is a surface highway when it reaches both I-696 and I-69.)
The Humelstown Bypass in PA for US 322. At both ends it connects to expressway segments of either US 322 or US 422 with also US 322 exiting at its east end for a two lane road.
US 202 between the Delaware River and NJ 31 in New Jersey.
Quote from: andy3175 on June 13, 2014, 12:04:36 AM
In California, we have the SR 29 bypass of Lakeport and the SR 20-49 bypass of Grass Valley/Nevada City. Neither of these short freeways connect to any other freeway.
Other California examples I can think of:
- Route 65 in Porterville
- La Cienega Boulevard (was to have been part of Route 170) through Kenneth Hahn Recreation area
- Route 1 between Castroville and Monterey
- Route 99 in Chico
- Route 29 in Napa
- Route 70/149 through Oroville
- Route 99 in Yuba City
All American Freeway - Fayetteville NC - Until I 295 (Future) connects to it, it continues as city streets on both ends.
MA 116 in Hadley, Mass. Pretty much serves to divert move-in/move-out/commencement traffic for UMass.
Virginia has a lot of these. US 23 between Norton and Big Stone Gap (basically, the Alternate US 58 concurrency) is the closest one to me.
US 70/270 and US 70B in Hot Springs, AR. The 70/70B interchange is not quite a freeway to freeway interchange as it has one ramp from EB 70 to WB 70B that has an at-grade at 70B.
US 31 at Kokomo, IN definitely qualifies as one until Indiana upgrades the rest of US 31 between Indy and South Bend.
The US 13/50 bypass around Salisbury MD is one.
The topic really should have been one that said "Isolated freeways that aren't bypasses" because there are literally hundreds of freeway bip-asses that don't connect to any other freeways.
In Ontario, near Sudbury, there are sections of both ON-17 and ON-69 that have freeway segments that do not connect to any other freeways.
PA 309 north of Hatfield, PA. It may be a bypass, but it is actually an isolated freeway as its endpoints are far from the business center along the route it replaces as well as part of a larger network of the PA road system. PA 309 is a major corridor between Philadelphia and Allentown which is mostly four lanes of both freeway and expressway grade. This section is isolated from the rest of the state's freeway system as arterial environment exists on both ends.
US 15 near Gettysburg is also more than a bypass of the historic borough as it is quite lengthy and in fact extends a few miles north of where Business US 15 terminates.
Louisiana:
* Three stretches of US 90 on the "future I-49" route.
* Earhart Expressway in metro New Orleans.
Pineville Expressway barely fails the test since it is now connected to I-49 via ramps.
If you're talking about freeways that don't connect to the larger freeway/Interstate network, there are a a ton in PA alone (some of which have already been mentioned)
US 6:
Youngsville bypass
Warren bypass
US 11:
Duncannon bypass (with US 15)
Selinsgrove bypass (with US 15)
US 15:
Gettysburg bypass
Duncannon bypass (with US 11)
US 22 :
Armagh bypass
Lewistown to Amity Hall
US 30:
Greensburg bypass
Everett bypass
West York bypass
US 119:
Kittanning bypass (connects to US 422 freeway only)
US 202:
Doylestown bypass
US 219:
Meyersdale bypass
Somerset to north of Ebensburg
Bradford bypass
US 220:
Mill Hall to Jersey Shore
US 222:
Kutztown bypass
US 322:
Milroy to Amity Hall
Hummelstown bypass
Cornwall bypass
US 422:
Prospect bypass
Butler bypass
Kittanning bypass (connects to PA 28 freeway only–which arguably doesn't connect directly to any other freeways)
Indiana bypass
PA 8:
Wesley to Pecan
PA 28:
Etna to Kittanning (arguably–because it doesn't connect directly to the PA Turnpike)
PA 56:
Johnstown
PA 248:
Bowmanstown to Walnutport
PA 309:
South of Quakertown to Souderton
PA 611:
Doylestown bypess
Not signed as a numbered route:
Harvey Taylor Bypass - Harrisburg
Depending on how you look at it, the entirety of I-99/US 220 (and the connected US 30, US 322, and PA 26 freeways) are also "isolated" because there isn't a direct connection to the PA Turnpike at the southern end, and the I-99 freeway ends before you reach the I-80 ramps at the northern end.
There are a few of those in Bakersfield. First there is the Alfred Harrell Highway. Then there is the Route 178 Crosstown which ends about a mile and a half or so from 99. There is also the Westside Parkway, as it stands in its current form (of course that will change, so it may not count).
I think Wayne Gretzky Drive in Edmonton, AB would qualify as well.
Would US 84 north of Santa Fe, NM would qualify? All of the Alaska freeways?
* The MO 21/Blood Alley Replacment Freeway south of St. Louis:
Map (Google got the coloration correct) (https://www.google.com/maps?q=Hillsboro,+MO&hl=en&ll=38.362118,-90.341263&spn=0.468409,1.056747&sll=38.668356,-90.802002&sspn=7.460832,16.907959&oq=hillsbo&hnear=Hillsboro,+Jefferson+County,+Missouri&t=m&z=11)
Never planned for a tie in to either I-55 or I-270 on the north end, may have been connected to by a freeway to I-55 if the Outer Belt proposals for the MO 109/Rte W/Rte MM/Rte M corridor had been fully realized.
Quote from: TheStranger on June 13, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on June 13, 2014, 12:04:36 AM
In California, we have the SR 29 bypass of Lakeport and the SR 20-49 bypass of Grass Valley/Nevada City. Neither of these short freeways connect to any other freeway.
Other California examples I can think of:
- Route 65 in Porterville
- La Cienega Boulevard (was to have been part of Route 170) through Kenneth Hahn Recreation area
- Route 1 between Castroville and Monterey
- Route 99 in Chico
- Route 29 in Napa
- Route 70/149 through Oroville
- Route 99 in Yuba City
Freeport Blvd in Sacramento, CA near Florin rd. it was supposed to be CA-160 according to some maps Near Sacramento executive airport.
CA 1 near Point Mugu, too, as well as the portion of CA 1 between San Luis Obispo and Morro Bay.
Quote from: bing101 on June 13, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: TheStranger on June 13, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on June 13, 2014, 12:04:36 AM
In California, we have the SR 29 bypass of Lakeport and the SR 20-49 bypass of Grass Valley/Nevada City. Neither of these short freeways connect to any other freeway.
Other California examples I can think of:
- Route 65 in Porterville
- La Cienega Boulevard (was to have been part of Route 170) through Kenneth Hahn Recreation area
- Route 1 between Castroville and Monterey
- Route 99 in Chico
- Route 29 in Napa
- Route 70/149 through Oroville
- Route 99 in Yuba City
Freeport Blvd in Sacramento, CA near Florin rd. it was supposed to be CA-160 according to some maps Near Sacramento executive airport.
Freeport Blvd WAS State 160 until a few years ago when it was relinquished.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=831757236853825&set=oa.253418661527818&type=1&theater
Here is a shot of Freeport blvd in Sacramento, CA it looks like a freeway near Florin Rd but its really a city street.
Quote from: roadman65 on June 13, 2014, 12:41:32 PM
PA 309 is a major corridor between Philadelphia and Allentown which is mostly four lanes of both freeway and expressway grade. This section is isolated from the rest of the state's freeway system as arterial environment exists on both ends.
And it should still be a US highway.
CT 187/189 in Windsor/East Granby.
Quote from: bing101 on June 13, 2014, 09:53:43 PM
Here is a shot of Freeport blvd in Sacramento, CA it looks like a freeway near Florin Rd but its really a city street.
Except that it has no grade separations of its own at any point, notwithstanding the interchanges with the WX Freeway and I-5 (both of which are traffic-light controlled). Not really a freeway.
Does having an interchange make it a freeway? If so, there's a Very Short Section of freeway on US-127 at the M-57 interchange.
And to stretch a point, the I-75 freeway between St. Ignace and Sault Ste. Marie is isolated, as it has a non-freeway bridge at either end.
James Ruse Drive, a suburb away from where I live. Part of the A40 and the A28/A40 duplex.
http://goo.gl/AF710u (http://goo.gl/AF710u)
Quote from: briantroutman on June 13, 2014, 06:19:18 PM
If you're talking about freeways that don't connect to the larger freeway/Interstate network, there are a a ton in PA alone (some of which have already been mentioned)
US 11:
Selinsgrove bypass (with US 15)
US 119:
Kittanning bypass (connects to US 422 freeway only)
PA 28:
Etna to Kittanning (arguably–because it doesn't connect directly to the PA Turnpike)
PA 56:
Johnstown
PA 248:
Bowmanstown to Walnutport
US 11/15 Selinsgrove bypass will eventually connect to the southern end of the PA 147 freeway, so this will be connected
US 119 I think you meant Indiana Bypass
PA 28 is getting connected to I-279/I-579
PA 56 connects to US 219 at the east end
PA 248 - just an interesting note...at the east end, they had to "cantilever" part of the westbound lanes over the eastbound lanes to fit the highway into the gap in the mountain.
Quote from: GaryV on June 14, 2014, 07:31:32 AM
Does having an interchange make it a freeway? If so, there's a Very Short Section of freeway on US-127 at the M-57 interchange.
And to stretch a point, the I-75 freeway between St. Ignace and Sault Ste. Marie is isolated, as it has a non-freeway bridge at either end.
It's debatable. I don't count them for my exit lists, though a couple interchanges in a limited access area makes me think about it. I do appreciate it when maps mark single interchanges on a limited access section of otherwise non-freeway with the freeway color though.
In New York:
Pearl River Bypass (NY 304)
Heathcote Bypass (Westchester CR 143)
US 9 in Poughkeepsie
NY 107 in Glen Cove
In New Jersey:
Freehold Bypass (NJ 33)
In Rhode Island:
Westerly Bypass (RI 78)
NJ 15 in New Jersey near Sparta.
Texas 199 has a few disconnected freeway segments connected by future frontage roads. One segment doesn't have any overpasses or ramps, but we know TxDOT considers all of the segments freeways because they put up "freeway ends" signs.
RI 138, in Jamestown.
Quote from: hbelkins on June 13, 2014, 10:09:21 AM
Virginia has a lot of these. US 23 between Norton and Big Stone Gap (basically, the Alternate US 58 concurrency) is the closest one to me.
Va. 7 (Harry Flood Byrd Highway) between Round Hill in the west (near the crest of the Blue Ridge) and Va. 9 near Clarke's Gap and Hamilton qualifies for this list.
Va. 37 around the west side of Winchester barely qualifies, but IMO it does since it lacks full freeway-to-freeway connections with I-81.
The "new" Warrenton Bypass (parts of U.S. 15, U.S. 17 and U.S. 29) has full freeway access control, but does not connect to any other freeway.
South of Warrenton, the Culpeper Bypass (parts of U.S. 15 and U.S. 29) also qualifies.
Maryland has the Salisbury Bypass (parts of U.S. 50 and U.S. 13) that is full freeway, but has no connection to any other freeway and the (short) Vienna Bypass (part of U.S. 50) and bridge over the Nanticoke River, which also lacks connection to any other freeway.
One might be able to make the case that Md. 5 where it bypasses Hughesville should be on the list.
Md. 4 (Pennsylvania Avenue Extended and Southern Maryland Boulevard) between Md. 258 (Bristol) in Anne Arundel County and the at-grade signalized intersection at Dower House Road near Andrews AFB in Prince George's County qualifies, though it seems that Maryland SHA is finally going to get rid of the three wreck-prone intersections on Md. 4 between Dower House Road and I-95/I-495.
Quote from: jemacedo9 on June 14, 2014, 07:59:23 AM
US 119 I think you meant Indiana Bypass
You're right.
Quote from: jemacedo9 on June 14, 2014, 07:59:23 AM
PA 56 connects to US 219 at the east end
Yes, but the US 219 freeway running from Somerset to Ebensburg doesn't directly connect to any other freeways, so the two together are essentially "off the grid" .
Quote from: jemacedo9 on June 14, 2014, 07:59:23 AM
PA 248 - just an interesting note...at the east end, they had to "cantilever" part of the westbound lanes over the eastbound lanes to fit the highway into the gap in the mountain.
I always thought this was an interesting little Easter egg that never got much attention.
Does GA 204 count near Savanah? If I am not mistaken it is not a direct freeway to freeway connection between it and I-95 sort of like I-99 to I-80 in PA.
There are several that I can think of in southern Virginia.
- The US 58 bypass around Franklin.
- On a technicality, the 13/58/460 bypass around Suffolk. There are some at-grade intersections between the east end of the business routes and I-664, which automatically downgrades that section to expressway in my mind.
- VA 10's Super 2 around Smithfield.
- The freeways emanating from Danville (until I-785 is completed).
- The bypasses around Lynchburg and Martinsville.
- US 58's bypass around Hillsville (ends about a mile from I-77).
For Indiana, the Vincennes and Kokomo bypasses should count. And small portions of the Bloomington (from SR 48 to SR 45) and Muncie (from US 35 to SR 32) bypasses should also work.
As for non-bypass isolated freeways, two separate sections of the Lloyd Expressway (west of US 41 and east of US 41, but not including the interchange with US 41.) And even when the Lloyd/41 interchange is rebuilt it will still be isolated unless it is ever connected to I-69 as a full freeway. I guess the SR 49 highway (a bypass but also a through-way as well) from US 30 to Vale Park interchange is another decent stretch of freeway. Finally SR 641, but only temporarily until a connection with I-70 is made.
Quote from: briantroutman on June 14, 2014, 04:39:25 PM
Yes, but the US 219 freeway running from Somerset to Ebensburg doesn't directly connect to any other freeways, so the two together are essentially "off the grid" .
Ah, yes, you're correct...
How about Westside Parkway in Bakerfield and Alfred Harrel Highway in the Same area they are Isolated freeways.
http://www.bakersfieldfreeways.us/project_westside_parkway.html
http://socalregion.com/highways/socal_unsigned/alfred_harrell_hwy/
http://socalregion.com/highways/socal_unsigned/foothill_fwy/
Now known as Oak Hill Drive in Pasadena Old 118 and I-210.
or This
http://socalregion.com/highways/socal_unsigned/pacific-highway-in-san-diego/
WIS 11 around Monroe, WI https://goo.gl/maps/BaMRB
I couldn't really think of any Kentucky examples, with the possible exception of the US 23 Pikeville cut-through, but then I thought of the limited-access portion of KY 4 (New Circle Road) in Lexington.
The Henderson Expressway in the Providence, RI area, and TX 6 through Bryan and College Station. I-2 and the 69's in the Rio Grande Valley, as of now.
Also, A-70 around Saguenay, Québec, and a short segment of ON 11 north of Thunder Bay.
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 12, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
Perhaps the category should be narrowed to exclude freeways that continue on in expressway/semi-expressway form on one or both ends. That said:
* The Elgin-O'Hare Expressway in Illinois, although construction is currently underway on the eastward extension that will connect it to I-290.
* The Amstutz Expressway/IL 137 in Waukegan - Originally intended though to connect to I-94 at the IL 137 interchange, although the east-west section along the east-west part of IL 137 didn't survive the EIS process. The isolated north-south section was supposed to be much longer though.
* IL 8/IL 116 from Washington Street in Peoria to Main Street in East Peoria
You can add to the Illinois list,
* Lawrenceville/Vincennes Bypass (US-50)
* Elgin Bypass (US-20)
* Lake Shore Drive (US-41) north of the Loop
Quote from: Brandon on June 14, 2014, 10:26:01 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 12, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
Perhaps the category should be narrowed to exclude freeways that continue on in expressway/semi-expressway form on one or both ends. That said:
* The Elgin-O'Hare Expressway in Illinois, although construction is currently underway on the eastward extension that will connect it to I-290.
* The Amstutz Expressway/IL 137 in Waukegan - Originally intended though to connect to I-94 at the IL 137 interchange, although the east-west section along the east-west part of IL 137 didn't survive the EIS process. The isolated north-south section was supposed to be much longer though.
* IL 8/IL 116 from Washington Street in Peoria to Main Street in East Peoria
You can add to the Illinois list,
* Lawrenceville/Vincennes Bypass (US-50)
* Elgin Bypass (US-20)
* Lake Shore Drive (US-41) north of the Loop
more maybes for IL
parts of Palatine Road it's an junior expressway
parts of Skokie Highway US 41
Kansas examples:
- US 169 most of the way through Miami County.
- K-18 from just east of I-70, all the way to K-113 (isolated because of the lack of a freeway-to-freeway connection to I-70, plus the at-grade intersection with Boller Road).
- US 54/400 approximately between Kingman and Goddard, although this isolation is probably only temporary.
Ohio:
- US 23 in the middle of Delaware. Not really a bypass, as it cuts right through town. Not an expressway directly north or south of Delaware. Almost too short to count, having only one complete and one partial interchange, though until ca 2001 it had another partial interchange on its south end.
- OH 104 Frank—Refugee Expressway in Columbus. Isolated from I-71 and US 33 because OH 104 does not retain freeway characteristics into those interchanges.
There might be an example or two in the Cincinnati area...
Quote from: roadman65 on June 14, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
Does GA 204 count near Savanah? If I am not mistaken it is not a direct freeway to freeway connection between it and I-95 sort of like I-99 to I-80 in PA.
Truman Parkway east from GA 204 to President Street yes, but GA 204 itself is not a freeway at all. There is an interchange at US 17, but the route is at grade on either side of the exit.
You can add Ronald Reagan Parkway (http://www.southeastroads.com/ronald_reagan_parkway.html) east of Atlanta as a bona fide isolated freeway too.
All of Lynchburg's Freeways (US-29/460 bypass, US-29 Madison Heights Bypass, US-29-BR/501 Lynchburg Expy) are disconnected from each other.
Quote from: bing101 on June 14, 2014, 07:48:51 PM
http://socalregion.com/highways/socal_unsigned/pacific-highway-in-san-diego/
Pacific Highway/old US 101 directly connects with I-5, so it's not isolated from the local freeway network at all.
The old I-15/US 395 freeway (Kearny Villa Road) between Miramar Road and Route 163 ALMOST is, but does have a direct ramp from the southbound side to 163 south.
Quote from: bing101How about Westside Parkway in Bakerfield and Alfred Harrel Highway in the Same area they are Isolated freeways.
http://www.bakersfieldfreeways.us/project_westside_parkway.html
http://socalregion.com/highways/socal_unsigned/alfred_harrell_hwy/
The Westside Parkway is only isolated for the time being - it is slated to be future Route 58 (with a connection to Route 99 and the existing Route 58 freeway).
Quote from: hbelkins on June 14, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
I couldn't really think of any Kentucky examples, with the possible exception of the US 23 Pikeville cut-through, but then I thought of the limited-access portion of KY 4 (New Circle Road) in Lexington.
The Hal Rogers Parkway and US 68 in Maysville. Although both of those are 2 lane freeways.
I thought about the Hal Rogers, but didn't count it because of the at-grades it has in the middle of the route. The KY 66 and KY 118 interchanges are at-grades, and there are others that have been built in Clay and Leslie counties.
Only example I can think of in LA is the Earhart Expressway in NOLA...the upcoming construction of ramps to Airline Highway will help some, but until there is a connection to I-310 or I-10, it would count as an "isolated" freeway, right??
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 14, 2014, 12:42:08 AM
CT 187/189 in Windsor/East Granby.
Ehhhh... I dispute that being a "freeway". It's a section of divided highway that has an interchange. The speed limit is only 50 and it's less than a mile from the 187/189 trumpet to the intersection where they split apart again.
I will grant you, for Connecticut that is special. But in the greater scheme of things if "it's divided and it has an interchange but no driveways or intersections for some length" qualifies something as a freeway, there are a bajillion little segments of ARC roadways, urban overpasses, and random roads wherever that also count.
Here is a similar length segment of road that is divided and has an interchange but no driveways or intersections. (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.444236,-79.2260069/40.4472184,-79.2057937/@40.4465479,-79.2243874,2561m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m3!4m2!1m0!1m0)Is this a freeway? No, it's an interchange on a divided highway.
I guess the US 30 freeway around Delphos, OH could be considered an "isolated freeway."
The portions of the US 52 freeways between Portsmouth, OH and around Ironton, OH could also be considered as "isolated freeways."
The new OH 73 freeway bypass of Wilmington, OH is also one.
Quote from: on_wisconsin on June 14, 2014, 08:07:33 PM
WIS 11 around Monroe, WI https://goo.gl/maps/BaMRB
Besides WI 11 at Monroe, also in Wisconsin:
-WI 54 (Mason St Fox River bridge) in Green Bay;
-Campus Dr in Madison;
-US 51 in the Windsor-De Forest area, also in the McFarland area;
-US 14 from just south of the Beltline in Madison to Oregon;
-(until the WI 29 and US 53 freeways were completed in the Eau Claire area in the 2000s, US 53 from the City's north side area to the Rice Lake/Haugen area was an isolated freeway as per the definitions of the O.P. - ditto WI 29 from WI 124 in Chippewa Falls to just east of WI 27 at Cadott);
-US 53 from the north edge of La Crosse through Holmen (its interchange at I-90 includes ramp intersections).
-WI 64 in the Somerset/New Richmond area (note, when the currently under construction Saint Croix River bridge is complete, it will still be isolated - MN 36, which it will feed into, is a suburban surface arterial street);
-WI 26 from NE Janesville to the north end of Milton, from the south end of Fort Atkinson to the north end of Jefferson and around Watertown.
(Note, I am not including several stretches of WI 29, US 10, US 151 NE of Madison, etc, where one and/or the other ends of the major four lane highway directly connect to a system-connected interstate or compatible highway via a true freeway-to-freeway interchange with no intermediate signalized or STOP sign intersections nor roundabouts. The freeway sections of US 151 west of Madison are thus 'isolated' under this criterium.)
Mike
Quote from: GaryV on June 14, 2014, 07:31:32 AM
Does having an interchange make it a freeway? If so, there's a Very Short Section of freeway on US-127 at the M-57 interchange.
Then NJ would be teeming with them, State routes 10, 38, 41, 70, 73, US 1, 130, 46. That's just off the top of my head.
Quote
And to stretch a point, the I-75 freeway between St. Ignace and Sault Ste. Marie is isolated, as it has a non-freeway bridge at either end.
NJ 55 northbound narrows to 1 lane before entering NJ 42
What about US 70 through downtown Jackson, TN? I seem to remember that there are a couple of interchanges downtown. US 70 has been rerouted so many times in Jackson, TN it is hard to keep up with it.
US 35 freeway from Gallipolis, OH to northwest of Rio Grande, OH as well as the Jackson, OH bypass.
US 20 freeway near Cherry Valley, NY.
I question some of the earlier California examples listed. I don't believe that Pacific Highway, Kearney Villa, or La Cienega Blvd are long enough to be considered freeways. They are merely express portions of local streets (or possibly expressways in the California sense of the term) with no at-grade crossings.
Also, in California there are Freeway Entrance signs when entering a freeway. These roads don't have them. Nor are there end freeways signs at the end. Even short freeways like the Marina Freeway have these signs.
La Cienega may come close (and in fact was a historical alignment for the never built 170 southern extension) but the light on northbound La Cienega at Stocker kills the freeway treatment.
Quote from: mrsman on June 16, 2014, 07:47:31 PM
I question some of the earlier California examples listed. I don't believe that Pacific Highway, Kearney Villa, or La Cienega Blvd are long enough to be considered freeways. They are merely express portions of local streets (or possibly expressways in the California sense of the term) with no at-grade crossings.
Simply using "freeway entrance" signs as a strict determiner whether a route is a freeway or not in California is a little bit of a misnomer; by California standards, that would include the one-interchange Skyline Boulevard/Route 35 segment from Hickey Boulevard to Westmoor Avenue in Daly City. (Conversely, the north part of Junipero Serra Freeway along Route 1 in San Francisco isn't given the freeway entrance signs at all, even though there are three interchanges north of 280!) The examples brought forth here all have multiple interchanges in a row, which I think is sufficient for purposes of the thread.
1. Pacific Highway wouldn't count anyway as isolated (it's connected to I-5) but it was built as a US 101 freeway alignment in the 1940s. It DOES have four interchanges before I-5: a Y at Barnett Avenue, Witherby Street, the frontage road, and Washington Street.
2. Kearny Villa
was the I-15 (originally US 395) freeway until 1984 and has two interchanges (Miramar Way, Harris Plant Road) before reaching Route 163.
3. La Cienega, which IS an isolated freeway through Kenneth Hahn State Recreation Area, has actually four interchanges as well: Wrightcrest Drive (southbound), the recreation area road, Stocker Street (northbound), Slauson Avenue.
TCH-1 and BC-5 was until they got linked with the South Fraser perimeter highway, a sort of hybrid freeway/expressway with BC-99.
TCH-1 (16th avenue east), is a freeway who stop short from AB-2 and AB-201 in Calgary.
Ring road in Regina and Circle Drive in Saskatoon.
A-70 in Saguenay and A-20 at Rimouski but there a plan to link the orphan gap with the main line.
there some freeway orphan gap of TCH-1 at Corner Brook and St.John's.
The garden state parkway has an isolated section between Exit 0 and exit 9, between 9 and 11 it is an at grade road with cross traffic, thereby isolating the "Freeway" section between the start and exit 9 from the rest of the highway.
QuoteThe garden state parkway has an isolated section between Exit 0 and exit 9, between 9 and 11 it is an at grade road with cross traffic, thereby isolating the "Freeway" section between the start and exit 9 from the rest of the highway.
Not for much longer, as replacing the at-grade intersections with interchanges is well underway.
Quote from: froggie on June 17, 2014, 05:59:07 PM
QuoteThe garden state parkway has an isolated section between Exit 0 and exit 9, between 9 and 11 it is an at grade road with cross traffic, thereby isolating the "Freeway" section between the start and exit 9 from the rest of the highway.
Not for much longer, as replacing the at-grade intersections with interchanges is well underway.
True, but until then it counts, right?
I only just remembered this one today...
US-101's bypass of Sequim, WA is up to freeway standards, and is completely isolated.
Quote from: Alex on June 15, 2014, 09:23:01 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 14, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
Does GA 204 count near Savanah? If I am not mistaken it is not a direct freeway to freeway connection between it and I-95 sort of like I-99 to I-80 in PA.
Truman Parkway east from GA 204 to President Street yes, but GA 204 itself is not a freeway at all. There is an interchange at US 17, but the route is at grade on either side of the exit.
You can add Ronald Reagan Parkway (http://www.southeastroads.com/ronald_reagan_parkway.html) east of Atlanta as a bona fide isolated freeway too.
GA 204 is mis-marked on the state highway map as a freeway–or GDOT considers it a freeway between Gateway Blvd and King George Blvd, but hasn't erected any restriction signage to that effect, unlike the US 19/41 Griffin bypass and, apparently, at least some of the US 41 Barnesville bypass (see here (https://www.flickr.com/photos/87345328@N00/9639508493)) and GA 166 south of Carrollton.
There are plans to replace the King George intersection with an interchange, which I suppose would effectively make GA 204 more of a freeway - but it'd no longer be isolated, since it would now connect to Veterans Parkway.
Also in Savannah: the Jimmy Deloach Pkwy extension parallel to Augusta Road is being built as a freeway and will be isolated from I-95 and I-516, at least for now (presumably GDOT's long-term plan is to extend it to I-516, since the extension is designed to allow a southern extension at GA 307).
More isolated ones: Liberty Expressway in Albany GA (part US 19, part US 82); GA 28 (Calhoun Expressway) and GA 104 (Riverwatch Pkwy) in Augusta; and part of Sugarloaf Pkwy near Lawrenceville (although the GA 316 freeway is sneaking eastward at a glacial pace, and eventually should get to the GA 10 Loop in Athens).
Then you have the two oddballs involving the two SEC schools in Mississippi: US 278/MS 6 and MS 7 in Oxford, which only connect to each other at a substandard, and now signalized interchange, and the US 82 freeway between some random point northwest of Starkville and the AL/MS state line, although there are two stubby bits of MS 25 and MS 12 that are de facto freeways that connect at the west end.
You've also got the similarly-weird case of the US 51 freeway between Union City and South Fulton, TN, which only connects to two freeways (the TN stub of the Purchase Pkwy and the TN 22 freeway between Union City and Martin) in substandard ways. And when I-69 is built around Union City, the TN 22 connection will actually become even more circumspect.
Quote from: CrystalWalrein on June 14, 2014, 10:12:56 PMlso, A-70 around Saguenay, Québec, and a short segment of ON 11 north of Thunder Bay.
What's interesting is that, while being only a bypass, A-70 still bears an Autoroute designation... and is a several hours' drive from the closest Autoroute.
I didn't have time to check 'upstream', but would I-587 (NY) be considered 'isolated', as per the criteria of this thread?
:hmmm:
Mike
Given the lack of interchanges, it could be argued that I-587 isn't even a freeway.
Quote from: froggie on June 18, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Given the lack of interchanges, it could be argued that I-587 isn't even a freeway.
Which brings up another good question, Does a freeway necessarily need interchanges, or can it be a section with no grade crossings without interchanges?
I can see both arguments.
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 18, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Given the lack of interchanges, it could be argued that I-587 isn't even a freeway.
Which brings up another good question, Does a freeway necessarily need interchanges, or can it be a section with no grade crossings without interchanges?
I can see both arguments.
If it doesn't have any interchanges, it can only be a freeway if it has at least one overpass/underpass (and even then, not always).
^ That sounded Alanlandish! :spin:
Not sure if this was already mentioned before, but I-22 is isolated... for now. :spin:
Also, something that wasn't mentioned was that in Indiana, the Logansport bypass is isolated.
In Maryland, US-29 is an isolated freeway for about 3 miles. It's between: a very unusual at-grade intersection with Old Columbia Rd. (which not only does not allow cross-street traffic through, but allows exactly one left-turn movement) and a signalized T-intersection with Rivers Edge Rd. North and south of there, US-29 is a "wishy-washy" freeway, with a mixture of interchanges and at-grades. I think there's a long-range plan to make it all freeway between White Oak and I-70.
The Osceola Parkway in Kissimmee may be isolated if you consider the small section of highway from just east of FL 535 to just west of Polynesian Islands Boulevard. The section east of 535 to the toll booth cannot be a freeway because it has u turn pockets and is allowed for future development to have driveways and at grade intersections along the road.
Between FL 535 and Polynesian Islands Boulevard it is a raised structure built on top of an artificial hill with absolutely no access to and from Polynesian Islands Boulevard ( Osceola crosses over Polynesian Isles) and both FL 535 and Poinciana Boulevard have interchanges.
I would say it counts being at both ends Osceola Parkway is arterial. That is what makes this a contraversial toll road because of its design unlike other toll roads.
Quote from: 1 on June 18, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 18, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Given the lack of interchanges, it could be argued that I-587 isn't even a freeway.
Which brings up another good question, Does a freeway necessarily need interchanges, or can it be a section with no grade crossings without interchanges?
I can see both arguments.
If it doesn't have any interchanges, it can only be a freeway if it has at least one overpass/underpass (and even then, not always).
I-587 does have an overpass. And a ramp to a park-and-ride.
Whether or not it's connected to I-87 or not depends on whether you think that it goes through the roundabout to the toll plaza.
Quote from: billtm on June 18, 2014, 06:09:36 PM
Not sure if this was already mentioned before, but I-22 is isolated... for now. :spin:
Only by signage, and the freeway continues west to US 45 which is a freeway (and semi-coincidentally is where the I-22 designation technically ends per FHWA; MDOT just hasn't erected signs yet).
New York I-587 is about as worthless as Wyoming I-180. Both are as worthless as tits on a boar hog, which is a saying my dad has been saying all my life and HB mentioned that he had heard.
US 301 approaching the summit bridge has a section built to freeway standards, there are no exits along it, but there is an overpass. it starts at a 4 way intersection with DE71 and running to a Four way with Bethel Church Road on the other side of the canal. This freeway was built for later expansion of US301 to a full freeway
Actually, AK 1 south of Anchorage and Minnesota Drive have no free-flowing connection to each other. Neither does the Johansen Expressway in Fairbanks....
I'd have more respect for I-587 if its parent did. I-87 doesn't even acknowledge I-587's existence.
Quote from: Jim on June 23, 2014, 08:02:28 AM
I'd have more respect for I-587 if its parent did. I-87 doesn't even acknowledge I-587's existence.
Plus many New Yorkers do not even acknowledge I-87 being its part of the NYS Thruway, people often call it "The Thruway."
Quote from: bing101 on June 14, 2014, 07:48:51 PM
http://socalregion.com/highways/socal_unsigned/foothill_fwy/
Now known as Oak Hill Drive in Pasadena Old 118 and I-210.
or This
Actually it's Oak Grove Drive. I know because I went to La Canada High School, right next to the 210 Freeway.
In Ohio:
- Harshman Ave. in Dayton is a freeway between the RR and the at-grade intersection with Airway Rd. Actually, it's more of an arterial that had a Jersey barrier placed in the middle. It has a full interchange with Springfield St.
- US-127 around Greenville is a "wishy-washy" freeway, alternating between interchanges and at-grade intersections. At OH-121, there's an oddball hybrid of the two; a grade separation and a single ramp that meets 127 at-grade, covering all movements.
- US-24 around Defiance. Also around Napoleon; it almost doesn't count because the new "Fort-to-Port" upgrade of 24 to I-475 in Toledo is full freeway (I'm pretty sure), but there's a lone at-grade between this and the Napoleon bypass.
- US-6 becomes a freeway just for its crossing of the Maumee River near Napoleon. If the missing movement in its interchange with US-24 were included, it, too, would connect to the new Fort-to-Port section and not count.
- Someone else mentioned US-23 through Delaware, OH. It's also freeway as it passes Marion. There are also several wishy-washy sections along the way, especially around Upper Sandusky. Same with US-30 and OH-15; a (arbitrary?) mixture of interchanges and at-grades.
Quote from: Duke87 on June 16, 2014, 12:31:26 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 14, 2014, 12:42:08 AM
CT 187/189 in Windsor/East Granby.
Ehhhh... I dispute that being a "freeway". It's a section of divided highway that has an interchange. The speed limit is only 50 and it's less than a mile from the 187/189 trumpet to the intersection where they split apart again.
I will grant you, for Connecticut that is special. But in the greater scheme of things if "it's divided and it has an interchange but no driveways or intersections for some length" qualifies something as a freeway, there are a bajillion little segments of ARC roadways, urban overpasses, and random roads wherever that also count.
Here is a similar length segment of road that is divided and has an interchange but no driveways or intersections. (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.444236,-79.2260069/40.4472184,-79.2057937/@40.4465479,-79.2243874,2561m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m3!4m2!1m0!1m0)Is this a freeway? No, it's an interchange on a divided highway.
It was actually supposed to be part of a freeway that the NIMBYs killed off. http://www.kurumi.com/roads/ct/woodsriver.html (http://www.kurumi.com/roads/ct/woodsriver.html)
Quote from: lepidopteran on June 24, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
In Ohio:
- US-127 around Greenville is a "wishy-washy" freeway, alternating between interchanges and at-grade intersections. At OH-121, there's an oddball hybrid of the two; a grade separation and a single ramp that meets 127 at-grade, covering all movements.
- Someone else mentioned US-23 through Delaware, OH. It's also freeway as it passes Marion. There are also several wishy-washy sections along the way, especially around Upper Sandusky. Same with US-30 and OH-15; a (arbitrary?) mixture of interchanges and at-grades.
Those are called expressways. Since expressways often do have chunks a few miles long that meet full freeway standards, such isolated freeways embedded in expressway corridors are supposed to be excluded from this thread.
Between my parent's house and their neighbor's house, the street I grew up on has no cross streets or driveways. Therefore, this is an isolated super-2 freeway. :pan:
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11). Not only isolated, but poorly maintained
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11). Not only isolated, but poorly maintained
And underposted. 55 mph for a freeway!?!
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11). Not only isolated, but poorly maintained
And underposted. 55 mph for a freeway!?!
If it's poorly maintained, going faster than 55 might be unsafe. I have never been there, so I'm not sure.
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 18, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Given the lack of interchanges, it could be argued that I-587 isn't even a freeway.
Which brings up another good question, Does a freeway necessarily need interchanges, or can it be a section with no grade crossings without interchanges?
I can see both arguments.
I would think it has to have Interchanges, otherwise, it is just a road with no Intersections. Then again, they gave a freeway designation, and an Interstate number to a glorified ramp in NW Indianapolis.
Quote from: 1 on June 26, 2014, 09:55:50 AM
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11). Not only isolated, but poorly maintained
And underposted. 55 mph for a freeway!?!
If it's poorly maintained, going faster than 55 might be unsafe. I have never been there, so I'm not sure.
The portion of Hwy 11 around Monroe itself is in need of resurfacing; the 4-lane portion eastward towards Juda is newer and in much better condition.
Not sure how much it counts as a "isolated" freeway; there's a pedestrian trail crossing (formerly a railroad crossing) at-grade. Granted, for the level of traffic the bypass gets, it's probably adequate.
US 130, the yardville bypass, it has a short freeway section with overpasses.
I remember US 1 in Southern Pines, NC is not connected to the rest of the state's freeway system. It turns arterial at both of its ends.
The US 30 freeway near Downingtown, PA was isolated before it was extended to connect with US 202.
The US 1 Freeway between the MD State Line and just north of Kennett Square is still isolated from other freeways.
NJ 29 partially counts in my book, between S Warren St and Lee Ave it has a freeway section that is only connected to US1 south, northbound requires the use of either NJ 129, or NJ33.
Quote from: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 26, 2014, 06:19:35 AM
The Monroe bypass (WIS 11). Not only isolated, but poorly maintained
And underposted. 55 mph for a freeway!?!
Oregon says hi. We even have some at 50 and 45 (though the 45 is debatable whether or not it's a freeway).
Although it's a super-2 MD 90 counts.
The betsy ross bridge and approach on the NJ side is 45mph, with 50 once you get past US130.
I-78 is 50mph on the NJ Turnpike Extension.
I-95 through PA is 55mph even in the rural sections outside trenton
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 27, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
I-95 through PA is 55mph even in the rural sections outside trenton
...which few people actually obey, considering I see people flying by at 80+ in the left lane.
-US 97 - Bend, OR.
:nod:
Mike
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on June 18, 2014, 09:17:03 AM
Quote from: CrystalWalrein on June 14, 2014, 10:12:56 PMlso, A-70 around Saguenay, Québec, and a short segment of ON 11 north of Thunder Bay.
What's interesting is that, while being only a bypass, A-70 still bears an Autoroute designation... and is a several hours' drive from the closest Autoroute.
Well, what you are saying can be true from one point of view. The closest autoroute is A-20 in Rivière-du-Loup (127 kilometres as a crow flies), but is several hours away as you would have to take an hour-long ferry to go from one to the other
Meanwhile, A-73 is 141 km (ACF) southward, but a mere 1h40 by car ― which is not, IMHO, "several" hours.
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Also, I would point out this 148-kilometre section of NB-8 and NB-11 (two designations, but actually acts as a single continuous road) between Jeanne-Mance Corner and Tide Head in northern Acadie, although I know some purists like their freeways with a median.
According to Google, it's 2h11m. Of course, Google Maps always goes the speed limit (and often slower).
Quote from: mgk920 on June 28, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
-US 97 - Bend, OR.
The Bend Parkway has always struck me as odd. It was built in the late 20th century/early 21st but yet it was built through the city. I always thought modern freeways were built around cities?
Also, the right turn slip ramp (http://goo.gl/a3kGU4) from Reed Market towards the Parkway..WHY?
Maybe someone mentioned it? The ones that come to mind are the freeway loops/bypasses in Albany, Georgia and Athens, Georgia. Since they're not interstate highways, Georgia decided to keep the sequential number sequence on them when everything was converted in 2000 (just like GA 400 in Fulton and Forsyth Counties).
Quote from: vdeane on June 29, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
According to Google, it's 2h11m. Of course, Google Maps always goes the speed limit (and often slower).
Your Goog's weird; 175 is the only R-route to have 100 km/h posted.
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Quote from: webfil on July 02, 2014, 12:53:56 PMYour Goog's weird; 175 is the only R-route to have 100 km/h posted.
That one and R-132 through Boucherville (which retains the 100 km/h limit after A-20 exits itself at the city line; granted, it's a canceled autoroute, A-430).
Quote from: jake on June 29, 2014, 10:02:14 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 28, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
-US 97 - Bend, OR.
The Bend Parkway has always struck me as odd. It was built in the late 20th century/early 21st but yet it was built through the city. I always thought modern freeways were built around cities?
Also, the right turn slip ramp (http://goo.gl/a3kGU4) from Reed Market towards the Parkway..WHY?
Yeah that's a sketchy ramp. It's marked with a yield sign, and it's hard to see cars coming at you because bushes are in the way, and there's no acceleration lane at all for it after the turn. It doesn't get much traffic though. Probably my biggest gripes with the parkway though are the 45 MPH speed limit, which makes it really dangerous because everyone's going 60 in the left lane and if it's crowded, 40-45 in the right lane, which is really dangerous, as well as the traffic signals on the south end (which they're working to fix, except the one at Powers) and especially the north end (Cooley and Robal). There's long term plans to extend the parkway along the railroad tracks to bypass the shopping center at the north end, but their latest plans have the bypass intersecting current US-97 north of Bend...with another traffic signal! Could they really not find the money for one flyover ramp (it doesn't need to be a full interchange)? It will be many years before this happens, though. Oh, and they should add more/longer accel/decel lanes on the RIROs. Oh, and get rid of the damn at grade crosswalks!
And with the rapid growth of Bend the past 20 years, there's no way our arterials would have been adequate for local traffic if the bypass was built around the east side of town. I wasn't around pre-parkway (well, not in my memory anyways), but my Dad told me horror stories about 3rd St being backup up for a mile at the underpass where it drops to two lanes (total). And Bend has grown even more since the parkway has been built. If it wasn't there now, Bend's traffic would be atrocious, even with an eastern bypass.
And on topic with the thread, you can add the US-97 bypass around Klamath Falls (northern half is super-2, southern half 4 lanes). Not sure if the short Redmond bypass counts (there is only one grade separated interchange).
For those interested in the current proposal for a northern bypass: http://www.us97solutions.org/PDF/East_DS2_Modified_Alternative.pdf
Quote from: webfil on July 02, 2014, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 29, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
According to Google, it's 2h11m. Of course, Google Maps always goes the speed limit (and often slower).
Your Goog's weird; 175 is the only R-route to have 100 km/h posted.
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Ah, you started from the northern end of the freeway. I started from A-40 in Quebec City.
It's not an "isolated freeway" but I find it interesting how the US 69 freeway peters out in Fort Scott, KS. It goes from a full freeway to a dangerous 4 lane arterial type road with little warning.
Quote from: Zeffy on June 27, 2014, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on June 27, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
I-95 through PA is 55mph even in the rural sections outside trenton
...which few people actually obey, considering I see people flying by at 80+ in the left lane.
Same in Delaware, although, doing the speed limit anywhere west of Wilmington is suicide.
The 89A Freeway near Prescott, Arizona.