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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Traffic Control => Topic started by: Brian556 on June 16, 2014, 11:31:26 PM

Title: Use of Road Flares in Daytime
Post by: Brian556 on June 16, 2014, 11:31:26 PM
This is a practice that is very common, but seems ridiculous to me. In my opinion, flares should be a night-time warning device only. The flares are not that visible in the daytime, and cones would be a much better choice. The only possible reason I could see to use flares over cones is that you can fit more of them in a police cruiser.

Even more ridiculous is railroad crews lighting them to stop traffic for a train. There is no reason not to use a STOP paddle or flag.
This picture on Railpictures is a good example. They are pulling train cars out of storage on an abandoned line, and have to pass through a signalized grossing where the signals are no functional.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=419162&nseq=2 (http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=419162&nseq=2)

Also, flares in my opinion, are an archaic warning device, that, thanks to modern technology is no longer needed. I think "LED Flares" should be used instead. They don't have to be lit, they are re-usable, they don't stink, and they don't leave that ceramic-like crap behind on the road.

So, why are they still being used? Are people so stuck in their old ways that they can't see the new, better way?
Title: Re: Use of Road Flares in Daytime
Post by: SignBridge on June 24, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
Old style flares (or fusees as some railroads call them) still have application. For one thing they can be left unattended, and will self-extinguish when they burn down completely. And second, they are still very bright and effective at night, though I agree that on a bright sunny day cones are more effective.
Title: Re: Use of Road Flares in Daytime
Post by: Pete from Boston on June 24, 2014, 11:16:37 PM
Because I'm kind of old like road flares, they still say "Stay the &$£#% away!" to me more emphatically than a reflector or light.

I think I started a conversation here about smudge pots once.  Those seem archaic to me.  Flares are current by comparison.  But they are probably as uncommon now as smudge pots were when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Use of Road Flares in Daytime
Post by: cjk374 on July 13, 2014, 01:49:49 PM
We still use fusees when one of our crossings have malfunctioning signals, but we won't burn one unless darkness has fallen.  Every now and then, a railroad official will perform an efficiency test for engineers by lighting a fusee and checking to see if the engineer will stop properly.
Title: Re: Use of Road Flares in Daytime
Post by: jakeroot on July 15, 2014, 01:58:59 PM
I saw WashDOT using flares the other day along SR 99 to indicate a lane closure. It was sunny and, personally, they were very easy to see. I still prefer cones, however.
Title: Re: Use of Road Flares in Daytime
Post by: Alex4897 on July 18, 2014, 01:19:43 AM
When the church I go to lets out they usually have a DE state cop directing traffic on SR 896 so as to give the hoard a chance to exit safely.  I've seen cops using flares there on several occaisions in varying weather conditions.