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Title: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 09, 2014, 05:43:02 PM
I'm making this thread for signs along highways that used to contain information about roads or highways that no longer exist in that location.
I'll start it off with some from Huntsville. Along I-565, there are some signs that still have places where a state route shield used to go. I think they were for AL-20, but I can't say for sure. All that's left of the shields are places where the signs aren't as faded that are in the shape of Alabama.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.718533,-86.632533&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.718533,-86.632533&panoid=UcU8ySAYgTuga2GdayoS1Q&cbp=12,139.26,,1,-18.6
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.721343,-86.62295&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.721343,-86.62295&panoid=OhThkfihkg_Tu6H4u1o-Yg&cbp=12,235.6,,2,-16.3
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.718513,-86.632643&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.718513,-86.632643&panoid=ZSEzheexEIXmKLV8gnczTg&cbp=12,114.22,,2,-13.26
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.703722,-86.682224&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.703722,-86.682224&panoid=Q94YIwZ89WRHpnvE1li9lw&cbp=12,70.74,,2,-12.88

There are also some remainders of it at the interchange with Research Park Blvd (AL 255).
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.708335,-86.671313&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.708412,-86.671315&panoid=pjjvKP9LmQ5_BQNqWW4n1g&cbp=12,184.23,,2,-14.78
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.705743,-86.671383&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.705743,-86.671383&panoid=_kQkBhsh30gkBTK3HFmcag&cbp=12,185.71,,1,-20.5
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.705869,-86.671087&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.70595,-86.671085&panoid=GziY3Q5G4fsR1COPeXdkWg&cbp=12,28.87,,0,-38.1
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.707686,-86.671043&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.707602,-86.671047&panoid=sQHpgoXYYYa2KwL05Rop2w&cbp=12,43.66,,0,-31.11

Over at the Huntsville International Airport, there is also a space on a cantilever for a sign over an unused turn lane. Looking at Google Maps, it would've been for a parking lot entrance.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.652608,-86.774349&spn=0.000012,0.008256&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=34.652608,-86.774349&panoid=pFjnxmuM3uy26tweRIdd3w&cbp=12,225.87,,3,-1.92
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Eth on July 09, 2014, 10:00:17 PM
If you squint at this one on I-285 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.734432,-84.230892,3a,37.5y,33.56h,94.2t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqQ_iAohNrUKDe55LOWIkw!2e0), you can see the outline of a Georgia state route shield above the text. That would be GA 260, which was truncated to I-20 in 2006. I expect this sign won't be here much longer; the advance signs for this exit were recently replaced and bear only the road name.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: hbelkins on July 10, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
I have some old pictures of the exit signage for US 68 on I-24 in the Paducah area where you can see the outline for the Downtown Loop I-24 and US 68 markers before it became Business Loop I-24 and was moved from that exit to the Husband Road exit, and the US 68 marker was centered on the sign.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: roadman on July 10, 2014, 01:19:09 PM
On I-95 approaching Neponset Street (exit 11) in Norwood, MA, there are BBS panels for Norwood Hospital.  When the signs were first installed, Norwood Hospital was owned by a firm called Caritas.  At some point, the hospital changed ownership and the Caritas portion of the legend was removed from the signs.  However, you can still see the outline of the letters on the sign background.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: DandyDan on July 10, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Numerous roads in Iowa which used to be state highways still have mile markers for highways which no longer pass along that particular road.

Also, Center St./W. Center Road in Omaha has old mile markers from when it was NE 38.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 10, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
plenty of greenout in California.  one sign even has the ears.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19580103i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: TEG24601 on July 10, 2014, 05:25:39 PM
There used to be a lot of these on and around I-69 when I drove it regularly after US-27 was truncated to Ft. Wayne.  I also remember seeing an US-10 dust shadow on the Saginaw St. Exit of I-75 south of Flint, MI before the sign was replaced.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Pete from Boston on July 10, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
There is a plethora of signs along or near Providence Highway, VFW Parkway, the Jamaicaway and the Riverway in/near Boston for US 1, that hasn't run there in 25 years.  Nobody at the dcr seems to care.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: bing101 on July 10, 2014, 08:22:05 PM
California seems to have the most examples of this with greenout on Button Copy signs.
although Newer signs are removing the greenouts

How About "Historic Routes" I know in Monrovia, CA and Arcadia, CA, Huntington Drive has "Historic Route US-66" signs but its city and county managed. "Lincoln Highway" is co-signed with CA-113 and "Historic US-40" in Dixon, CA. do these count.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Laura on July 10, 2014, 08:59:51 PM
There used to be 2 button copy BGSs that were modified once I-195 was built (south of Baltimore). These photos are from Alps' site (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-95/s2.html, with the first one taken by Lou Corsaro):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fmd%2Fi-95%2Fs47.jpg&hash=a24125f53e09d77d842f58bbccac9b2959f15478)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fmd%2Fi-95%2Fs47r.jpg&hash=4f840b0a9383fd6f8c972ca61feb101d3f46bf07)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: SectorZ on July 10, 2014, 11:40:58 PM
Until the freeway stretch of US 3 in Massachusetts was widened, the last exit (36) for Middlesex Ave had a missing space to the left that appeared to be a state route shield that was removed. Odd thing is, there has never been a state route on it, but methinks someone put a 3A sign up there, because at the end of the off ramp there is an erroneous "3A North" sign pointing left into Nashua NH. Eons ago, before the US 3 freeway, Middlesex Rd was US 3, but 3A there has always been on the other side of the Merrimack River from Tyngsboro center northward.

Also another odd instance on 3, down in Chelmsford. On the northbound side, the MA 110 junction used to have an A-B exit for each direction. Upon widening the highway, they built a long c/d ramp for I-495 and 110, and knocked 110 down to just one exit (like the southbound side). However, on the c/d ramp, there is a sign for 110 and "Exits 31 A-B", which haven't now existed since 2002. Been wondering how long that will last, and why that sign was a handful not replaced when they widened the highway.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: roadman on July 11, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
Most of the signing on US 3 between Burlington and Tyngsborough had been updated a few years before the widening project began.  As such, the sign panels were incorporated into the widening project "as-is", or with minor changes - usually relocating structures on new foundations.  Because the widening project was an accellerated design-build contract, it doesn't surprise me that some legend modifications were overlooked.

And yes, the Exit 36 sign Cjzani mentions did have a 3A shield on it when first installed as part of the pre-widening sign replacement project.  It was removed shortly thereafter once the error was pointed out to MassHighway.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: SidS1045 on July 12, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
Perhaps the best examples are the signs on the German autobahnen with the legend "Ehemalige innerdeutsche Grenze" (former border between East and West Germany), with an illustration of the fortified walls and watchtowers.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: BakoCondors on July 12, 2014, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on July 12, 2014, 02:49:59 PM
Perhaps the best examples are the signs on the German autobahnen with the legend "Ehemalige innerdeutschen Grenze" (former border between East and West Germany), with an illustration of the fortified walls and watchtowers.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/12625973.jpg (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/12625973.jpg)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: cl94 on July 12, 2014, 07:12:45 PM
Many of New York's current/former state highways have reference markers showing former designations. There used to be some US 15 signs in Rochester (don't know if still there). In Glens Falls, NY, there's an "end" marker for NY 9L at its former southern terminus, three blocks north of the current terminus. Until recently, there were some REALLY old hand-painted wooden crossbucks on NY 240 about halfway between Orchard Park and Springville, the railroad line being abandoned and torn up for several years. Signs in Manhattan point to I-495 West at the Lincoln Tunnel.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: cpzilliacus on July 13, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
My FTP is not working right now (which is how I normally get images online for display on AAROADS), but here are some that might be appropriate for this thread - buttoncopy signs in Maryland from the completion of I-495 in 1964 - on Facebook (you do not need a Facebook account to see these):

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10203354853424196.1073741843.1596953667&type=1&l=fbc3fcfc56 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10203354853424196.1073741843.1596953667&type=1&l=fbc3fcfc56)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: roadman65 on July 13, 2014, 11:44:01 AM
I-78 in New Jersey on the One and one quarter mile guide signs for WB Exit 18 show clearly that there was a NJ 31 South Shield on it once as NJDOT wanted you to use two local streets through Annandale, NJ to make the connection instead of exiting NB on NJ 31 and making the turnabout to NJ 31 SB for Flemington like they do now.

The New Brunswick Avenue overpass across both US 9 and the Garden State Parkway in Fords, NJ, I believe, still has a sign at the base of the bridge on NB US 9 that was left over from when the GSP NB used to use current US 9 NB lanes as its carriageway before NJ 440 was built.  Only the GSP used this type of signing for overpasses as other places place the street name on the girders above the freeway.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Alps on July 20, 2014, 02:58:03 AM
Quote from: Laura on July 10, 2014, 08:59:51 PM
There used to be 2 button copy BGSs that were modified once I-195 was built (south of Baltimore). These photos are from Alps' site (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-95/s2.html, with the first one taken by Lou Corsaro):
Negative, the photos you pulled were 4th and 5th in the run, and Lou only took the first one.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: DevalDragon on July 20, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
The one at Georgia Avenue is gone now? There was one left in Aug of 2013.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5574/14703744634_dc0789d91f_b.jpg)

Quote from: cpzilliacus on July 13, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
My FTP is not working right now (which is how I normally get images online for display on AAROADS), but here are some that might be appropriate for this thread - buttoncopy signs in Maryland from the completion of I-495 in 1964 - on Facebook (you do not need a Facebook account to see these):

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10203354853424196.1073741843.1596953667&type=1&l=fbc3fcfc56 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10203354853424196.1073741843.1596953667&type=1&l=fbc3fcfc56)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: DevalDragon on July 21, 2014, 02:52:40 AM
And Interstate 95 doesn't go to Richmond anymore.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14683254736_b4c262306e_b.jpg)

Still don't know why they went through the trouble to take this off the sign.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Billy F 1988 on July 21, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/montana999/aviation_wy_wb_at_johnson_bell_rd.jpg)

Well, US 10 isn't completely gone from Montana's not-too-distant past, despite it being truncated to West Fargo, ND in 1986. Just in case you happen to be on West Broadway Street and wondered what it was, there 'ya go. It was once multiplexed with US 93 and possibly MT 200 before Missoula County approved building the bridge over the Clark Fork River to move Reserve Street traffic down to US 12 and shifted US 93's mainline role from Broadway to Reserve. This explains why we have US 93 Business because of US 93 being multiplexed with I-90 and MT 200.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: huskeroadgeek on July 21, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
The freeway portion of Sam Cooper Blvd. in Memphis is still signed as it was when it was part of I-40. The exit numbers follow what would have been the mile markers on I-40 if it had gone through the middle of the city as originally proposed and there is still pull-through signage eastbound for Nashville and westbound for Little Rock with a big green space where the I-40 shield would go. I'm surprised they've kept the pull-through signs, particularly for WB traffic since the road carries primarily local traffic and there's no signage at the end of the road to tell anyone which direction to head to get to Little Rock anyway.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: PHLBOS on July 23, 2014, 01:51:39 PM
In Birmingham Twp., Chester County PA along PA 926, remnants (bare posts) of signage that once carried PA 100 shield & NORTH cardinal as well as a destination LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/Cb1Em).

I'm surprised that nobody yet mentioned this gem (http://goo.gl/maps/DPKRM) in Cambridge, MA that's had a ghost I-95 shield since 1975.

Further east, in Charlestown, MA; remnants of a similar (early-70s) vintage overhead gantry post (http://goo.gl/maps/XNgUo) at the Rutherford Ave./MA 99 intersection.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: The Nature Boy on July 23, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: DevalDragon on July 21, 2014, 02:52:40 AM
And Interstate 95 doesn't go to Richmond anymore.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14683254736_b4c262306e_b.jpg)

Still don't know why they went through the trouble to take this off the sign.

I'm actually confused here. I-95 does still go through Richmond and it seems like a logical control city for that area of Maryland. Why get rid of it?
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: PHLBOS on July 23, 2014, 05:04:29 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on July 23, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: DevalDragon on July 21, 2014, 02:52:40 AM
And Interstate 95 doesn't go to Richmond anymore.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14683254736_b4c262306e_b.jpg)

Still don't know why they went through the trouble to take this off the sign.

I'm actually confused here. I-95 does still go through Richmond and it seems like a logical control city for that area of Maryland. Why get rid of it?
I guess MDSHA no longer wanted 2 control destinations listed on pull-through signs.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: bugo on July 23, 2014, 08:51:25 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3852/14729217742_8538c434de_o.jpg)

Taken on July 25, 2000.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: roadman65 on July 24, 2014, 07:40:44 PM
I saw in Indiana a few interchanges where the US 27 shields are still up on span wires approaching the NAFTA interstate in some places.  When I get to putting it up on my flickr page, I will post the link to it.  Right now I am finishing up my home state of Florida and have some other states I have traveled that I have to do first.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2014, 08:04:25 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6002/5917439496_56a8d15d5f_z.jpg)

A 3-digit wide I-95 shield covers an I-495 shield on the Maine Turnpike (I-95) near Portland. For those not familiar with Maine highways, before 2004, the Maine Turnpike between Falmouth and Gardiner was numbered I-495. I-95 used to take this exit, follow the Falmouth Spur, and up what is now an extended I-295 north of Falmouth.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Mergingtraffic on April 09, 2015, 05:16:59 PM
A little late to the party....but this sign could count you can see it said Harbor City underneath.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8607/15891598093_99fb9ae769_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Bruce on April 10, 2015, 09:36:45 PM
The last US 99 shield in Seattle. Don't know what WSDOT will do with it once the viaduct is eventually demolished. I hope it gets preserved at one of our local history museums.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7454/16390496537_875e3fea5d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qYnzzT)
US 99 shield at 1st & Columbia (https://flic.kr/p/qYnzzT) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/people/70175722@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 10, 2015, 09:58:31 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FOld%2520Sign_zpsnez0twah.jpg&hash=1903fbf8487cf5e2f0f1919cfc5ab0b4f25bb395)

Hwy 2 was downgraded to county road 2 in 1998.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: PHLBOS on April 13, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
When 65 mph speed limits were once again allowed on rural Interstates circa 1987; many governors in northeastern states still kept the 55 maximum everywhere.

PA (under Gov. Bob Casey, Sr.) went as far as posting signs along highways at every border that read: PENNSYLVANIA'S MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT STILL 55 MPH.  Within the first year of Tom Ridge becoming Governor in 1995; these signs were taken down when PA adopted a 65 mph speed limit along initially rural Interstates.

Post remnants of said-sign along I-95 northbound just north of PA 452/Exit 2 (http://goo.gl/maps/n3ozs).

Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: ekt8750 on April 13, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 13, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
When 65 mph speed limits were once again allowed on rural Interstates circa 1987; many governors in northeastern states still kept the 55 maximum everywhere.

PA (under Gov. Bob Casey, Sr.) went as far as posting signs along highways at every border that read: PENNSYLVANIA'S MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT STILL 55 MPH.  Within the first year of Tom Ridge becoming Governor in 1995; these signs were taken down when PA adopted a 65 mph speed limit along initially rural Interstates.

Post remnants of said-sign along I-95 northbound just north of PA 452/Exit 2 (http://goo.gl/maps/n3ozs).

And we're still waiting on 65 MPH zones outside the rural areas.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Bickendan on April 13, 2015, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 10, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
plenty of greenout in California.  one sign even has the ears.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19580103i1.jpg)
Is that a 3dus hiding under there? 395?
Or is the 2dus on CalTrans BGSes a little wider than the 2dca, making that 60?
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: wphiii on April 14, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
This isn't a highway, but I've always enjoyed this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.451722,-79.907992,3a,45.5y,211.86h,88.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sqb3j0qaG0YlKfQYwWM3gMQ!2e0) delightfully anachronistic sign still in place at the intersection of Dallas Ave and Penn Ave here in Pittsburgh. U.S. 22/30 haven't been routed along Penn Ave for decades.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: roadman65 on April 14, 2015, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: ekt8750 on April 13, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 13, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
When 65 mph speed limits were once again allowed on rural Interstates circa 1987; many governors in northeastern states still kept the 55 maximum everywhere.

PA (under Gov. Bob Casey, Sr.) went as far as posting signs along highways at every border that read: PENNSYLVANIA'S MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT STILL 55 MPH.  Within the first year of Tom Ridge becoming Governor in 1995; these signs were taken down when PA adopted a 65 mph speed limit along initially rural Interstates.

Post remnants of said-sign along I-95 northbound just north of PA 452/Exit 2 (http://goo.gl/maps/n3ozs).

And we're still waiting on 65 MPH zones outside the rural areas.
US 1 in Chester County on the Oxford Bypass?  I take this is one of them along with I-78 from Hamburg to Allentown that is STILL 55 mph.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: NE2 on April 14, 2015, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: wphiii on April 14, 2015, 11:34:08 AM
This isn't a highway
Huh?
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: bugo on April 14, 2015, 08:30:44 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2795/4382734859_e04362b91d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 14, 2015, 08:51:09 PM

Quote from: PHLBOS on April 13, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
PA (under Gov. Bob Casey, Sr.) went as far as posting signs along highways at every border that read: PENNSYLVANIA'S MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT STILL 55 MPH

Funny, almost this exact statement (well, with "New York" substituted, and the insertion of "is" and "contrary to popular belief") was yelled at me during a traffic stop in late 1995, during the Northeast's 65 lag period.  Fortunately it was Christmas, so he just followed me out of the state and didn't write me a ticket.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: thefraze_1020 on June 08, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Exit signs on WB I-90 in Seattle pay homage to when WA-900 extended to I-90 at Rainier Ave (not since 1992):

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.590547,-122.304234,3a,75y,322h,90.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbOAuqLYF916q1JMXveRvJA!2e0?hl=en

WA-99 in Tukwila, where it used to exit itself and continue south through Tukwila, until the city had their section of WA-99 decommissioned in the early 2000's. It is now simply referred to as "Tukwila International Blvd".

SB WA-99: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.501622,-122.298194,3a,75y,199.51h,89.08t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1szCiR899CG1LHZcAx5NsB5A!2e0?hl=en
NB WA-599 where it transitions into WA-99: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.498641,-122.295482,3a,75y,332.15h,86.8t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1smIMK7suVZVxziChMrUa5uA!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: roadman65 on June 09, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
In Tampa along I-275 S Bound at US 92 exit there is a TO US 41 SOUTH on the guide sign which was there and copied over for years as remnants of when I-75 terminated in Downtown Tampa and US 41 was the through route south of there.

I am only guessing at this, of course, but originally I-75 was to end at I-4 where I-4 now ends at I-275 via I-275 from the north which is proven here by you users and on many road history websites.  So it makes sense that having US 41 SOUTH, although only one block to the east cosigned with US 92 East, the reason why it is worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Bruce on June 09, 2015, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on June 08, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Exit signs on WB I-90 in Seattle pay homage to when WA-900 extended to I-90 at Rainier Ave (not since 1992):

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.590547,-122.304234,3a,75y,322h,90.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbOAuqLYF916q1JMXveRvJA!2e0?hl=en

Here's a picture I took from the west end of the Mount Baker lid:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5444/17652366182_a4af0063f9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sTSZt5)
I-90 Exit 3 signage (https://flic.kr/p/sTSZt5) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: noelbotevera on June 09, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on April 13, 2015, 01:51:35 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 10, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
plenty of greenout in California.  one sign even has the ears.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19580103i1.jpg)
Is that a 3dus hiding under there? 395?
Or is the 2dus on CalTrans BGSes a little wider than the 2dca, making that 60?
That is 60. CA 60 was routed on the part where US 60 drifted away from I-10.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: meestersam on June 09, 2015, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on June 08, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Exit signs on WB I-90 in Seattle pay homage to when WA-900 extended to I-90 at Rainier Ave (not since 1992):

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.590547,-122.304234,3a,75y,322h,90.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbOAuqLYF916q1JMXveRvJA!2e0?hl=en

THANK YOU.  I've been wondering for years and figured it had to do with 167 or something.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2015, 02:11:03 AM
Quote from: meestersam on June 09, 2015, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on June 08, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Exit signs on WB I-90 in Seattle pay homage to when WA-900 extended to I-90 at Rainier Ave (not since 1992):

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.590547,-122.304234,3a,75y,322h,90.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbOAuqLYF916q1JMXveRvJA!2e0?hl=en

THANK YOU.  I've been wondering for years and figured it had to do with 167 or something.

The route's were decommissioned at roughly the same time. I don't think there's any reason that it couldn't be SR-167. Historic maps seem to suggest a concurrency near this point.

I'm surprised that WSDOT even put the 900 or 167 on the signs. The 90 was finished to 5 around the same time as these routes were decommissioned.

EDIT: I think the "SOUTH" green-out hides a 167 shield, and the "NORTH" green-out hides a 900 shield. Maybe.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: noelbotevera on June 10, 2015, 02:41:43 AM
SR 167 did go along Rainier Ave, but then SR 900 was routed over Rainier. I looked at an old map showing SR 167 along Rainier and SR 900 along Rainier too, but this would have been a pointless duplex. One old sign shows SR 167 along Rainier north of I-405 in Renton, but past that I do not know where SR 167 would have ended. So those are SR 900 shields covered, since SR 900 connected to I-90 at both ends, but the west end was truncated to I-5 (note the mileposts - the mileposts start at mile 5 and not mile 0 reflecting the former setup).
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Kacie Jane on June 10, 2015, 06:55:47 AM
SR 900 continued from its current end up MLK Way. 167 continued from downtown Renton up Rainier Avenue. Then in south Seattle where MLK Way & Rainier Avenue intersect, it was inexplicably 900 that continued to I-90 where it ended. I don't think 900 and 167 were multiplexed on that section of Rainier, but I could be wrong.

Both were truncated at the same time in 1992.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: busman_49 on June 10, 2015, 07:32:27 AM
Not along a highway, but note the US 33 sign on the far left of the photo.  This is on Main St. in Columbus, Ohio, which hasn't been US 33 in 30 years!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5441/9161173253_deec3ceb65.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/eXxpCZ)US 33 sign, Main St. Columbus 2013 06 23 (https://flic.kr/p/eXxpCZ) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

75 south at the Glendale-Milford Rd. exit.  OH 126 used to run along Glendale Milford Rd until sometime in the 1990s
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3919/15013520382_d12baec7ba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oSGdxG)P1160502 (https://flic.kr/p/oSGdxG) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5579/14827247400_6a5890a947.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oAew5y)P1160510 (https://flic.kr/p/oAew5y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3898/15013885425_1d6146d396.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oSJ64x)P1160504 (https://flic.kr/p/oSJ64x) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Dr Frankenstein on June 10, 2015, 12:06:24 PM
Until recently (late 2014), A-13 in Laval, QC still had one pull-through sign with "AƩroport de Mirabel" as its control city. The highway was open up to A-640 in 1975 and never completed past that.
The sign was also blue, a colour formerly used for toll highways. Tolls were lifted in 1985.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Kacie Jane on June 10, 2015, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2015, 02:11:03 AM
Quote from: meestersam on June 09, 2015, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on June 08, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
Exit signs on WB I-90 in Seattle pay homage to when WA-900 extended to I-90 at Rainier Ave (not since 1992):

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.590547,-122.304234,3a,75y,322h,90.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbOAuqLYF916q1JMXveRvJA!2e0?hl=en

THANK YOU.  I've been wondering for years and figured it had to do with 167 or something.

The route's were decommissioned at roughly the same time. I don't think there's any reason that it couldn't be SR-167. Historic maps seem to suggest a concurrency near this point.

I'm surprised that WSDOT even put the 900 or 167 on the signs. The 90 was finished to 5 around the same time as these routes were decommissioned.

EDIT: I think the "SOUTH" green-out hides a 167 shield, and the "NORTH" green-out hides a 900 shield. Maybe.

I-90 was finished to I-5 in 1991-1992 (I've still yet to find an exact date I'm confident in), but the basic geometry of the interchange was in place as far back as at least 1957 when it was US 10.  (Here's 1968 from historicaerials.com (http://historicaerials.com?layer=1968&zoom=16&lat=47.58958026766777&lon=-122.30669595301151); I have a Shell map from 1957 that I picked up at Pike Place a year or two ago.)  It was really only that last mile hugging Beacon Hill that was left incomplete for so long.

What's really weird though is that 900 North from that point would technically be an error. (Or come to think of it so is South, shouldn't it have been East?)*  1970 Traffic Reports (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/mapsdata/travel/pdf/1970_ATR.pdf) (warning: big PDF) confirm that milepost 0 for SR 900 was at the "SR 90 UXING W BND", and milepost 1.07 was at "JCT SR 167", and it's exactly 1.07 miles from I-90 to MLK Way along Rainier Avenue.  That said, I find it odd that the bit of Rainier from I-90 to Dearborn wasn't on the state highway system, even if US 10/Temp I-90 followed Corwin Place.

*(And no, that's not an indication that those are actually 167 shields under there.  Rainier was definitely at least 900 and most likely only 900.  They probably just decided to sign that section North-South to avoid confusion.  Trying to tell someone to take Rainier Avenue eastbound wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.)
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: noelbotevera on June 10, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
Is there any date stamp or anything on the back of the sign? Did anyone find sign plans for this gantry?
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Kacie Jane on June 10, 2015, 02:16:07 PM
I got you decades-old traffic reports and now you want sign plans?  Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker. :P

The 2C panel (I-5 North) has a 96 sticker on the back, but that can't be right for ones we care about, and I feel you can tell by looking at them that they were manufactured at different times (different font in the exit tab, etc).  I got that from looking at Google Street View; I couldn't see any stickers on the Exit 3 signs.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2015, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on June 10, 2015, 02:16:07 PM
I got you decades-old traffic reports and now you want sign plans?  Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker. :P  The 2C panel (I-5 North) has a 96 sticker on the back, but that can't be right for ones we care about, and I feel you can tell by looking at them that they were manufactured at different times (different font in the exit tab, etc).  I got that from looking at Google Street View; I couldn't see any stickers on the Exit 3 signs.

Well, the only other option is to run out into the middle of the freeway and snap off some shots. Who wants to volunteer?
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: thefraze_1020 on July 19, 2015, 01:54:54 PM
In the same area, this may be a reminder of when I-90 was on city streets. The "to" sign was most likely added later:

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.59576,-122.312784,3a,75y,88.5h,83.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6033tIzg6o1eDh3rXsPCnw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: vtk on July 19, 2015, 04:51:35 PM
In Lancaster, OH at the interchange of Memorial Drive (old US 33) and Broad Street (old OH 793)...

793 was decommissioned first, so ODOT scraped the 793 shields off the BGS on 33. Shortly thereafter, 33 was routed onto the bypass, ODOT said "not our problem", so all the BGS were left as-is, including the ones on Broad Street indicating the entrances to US 33 which isn't US 33 anymore.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: Pink Jazz on July 19, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
On I-40 in Albuquerque, the old NM 345 shields on the BGS for the Unser Blvd exit have been greened out.
Title: Re: Signage along highways with reminders of what once was
Post by: admtrap on July 19, 2015, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 10, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
plenty of greenout in California.  one sign even has the ears.

Ran across another set of ears this week going up 99 to Sacramento

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.340273,-120.590018,3a,41.9y,291.53h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spIMycJvECvaKN5NQrsEuXQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656