If you go to a CVS in the Jackson area, chances are that a Walgreens is very close by. I also tend to see a Walmart whenever there's a Lowe's.
BTW, I'm looking for specific business names, rather than something generic like a check-cashing store near a liquor store.
Quote from: golden eagle on August 17, 2014, 10:55:51 AM
If you go to a CVS in the Jackson, chances are that a Walgreens is very close by. I also tend to see a Walmart whenever there's a Lowe's.
Both of those seem to be regional things. Outside of the South, I never see a Lowe's/Walmart coupling. it's pretty prevalent in the South though (for some reason).
What about McDonalds/Burger King? If you see one then you can be assured that the other is close by.
Quote from: The Nature Boy on August 17, 2014, 10:57:53 AM
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What about McDonalds/Burger King? If you see one then you can be assured that the other is close by.
Not around here. McDonald's locations are far more ubiquitous than Burger King. Often this is due to zoning regulating how many "drive-thru" type restaurants are allowed in a particular area. When I was in high school, the operator of the Roy Rogers across from the school protested when a McDonald's was to open nearby, claiming the zoning prohibited it. The McDonald's operator responded that the zoning only allowed one "drive-in" restaurant but the McDonald's was to have a "drive-thru" facility (the Roy's didn't). He won.
Further to the south I've frequently seen Wal-Mart and Sam's Club located together (I believe they're owned by the same outfit). Around here that's not generally the case.
Sam's is owned by Walmart. The one in Pearl is several miles from the closest Walmart.
There aren't nearly as many Burger Kings here as McDonald's. There's a BK a mile to my southwest. They're about a mile southeast of McDonald's.
Burger King is almost always near McDonald's.
However, I know of a Burger King without a McDonald's nearby. It's on the small patch of land surrounded by MA 114, MA 125, and MA 133. This small triangular patch of land also has a Bertucci's and an Ethan Allen.
I'm also starting to see Dollar General and Family Dollar stores being by each other, too.
Quote from: golden eagle on August 17, 2014, 11:38:44 AM
I'm also starting to see Dollar General and Family Dollar stores being by each other, too.
Don't forget about Fred's. I know of 4 places near me that have Fred's, Dollar General, and Family Dollar very close to each other: Arcadia, Grambling, Homer, & Haynesville (Louisiana). In Haynesville, all 3 stores are within walking distance and were built less than 3 years ago. The Family Dollar store gave up and closed its doors last month. Yep, they were only around about 2 years or less and gave up...sad to see such a waste of a brand-new building. :-( :no:
Near me are two Fred's that are about a third of a mile from each other. I have no idea how that happened.
Since Dollar Tree just bought Family Dollar, maybe the closed FD in Haynesville will reopen as a Dollar Tree.
Quote from: golden eagle on August 17, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Since Dollar Tree just bought Family Dollar, maybe the closed FD in Haynesville will reopen as a Dollar Tree.
Oh really???? When did that happen?
Couple of weeks ago.
In my experience, Family Dollar and Dollar Tree serve two different types of clientele and two different markets. Family Dollars (and Dollar Generals, which used to be headquartered in Kentucky but now is HQ'd in Nashville) serve small towns and rural areas as well as larger towns. Even the smallest Kentucky county seat towns have a DG or FD, or both. And DG in particular is expanding into rural areas where no towns are around.
Dollar Trees are primarily in the larger towns and can usually be found in strip malls.
For awhile as they were gaining momentum in the late 80s/early 90s, Wawa seemed to be opening their convenience stores as close as possible to their national rival, 7-11. In this case, Wawa opened a store right next door to a 7-11 (which eventually, as expected, closed and became a mom and pop "In and Out").
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It worked well, and 7-11s have somewhat gone down the tubes in NJ/PA. Very few sell gas or fresh made food and they have not kept up with the times - many being rather run down dumps. At first when I was young I liked my Slurpees and didn't like the seemingly more expensive Wawas encroaching on my 7-11s. Now Wawa is king, supplies me with my gas and meatball classics and will be slowly invading an area near you.
Dollar Tree tends to really cheap-looking items. Yeah, it's a dollar store, but they tend to carry lesser-known brands than DG and FD.
If a Walgreens goes up on one corner, then the other corner must have a CVS here in Florida. Even though there are many other intersections that each rival drug store could use, they like to have it out on the same corner. Even Home Depot in a war with Lowes, manages to put up their stores miles from each other, but these two pharmacy giants have to go for the same intersection.
Discount Auto Parts and Auto Zone are always neighbors. Now, of course, O' Reilly's Auto Parts is entering the contest for auto parts as well as Bennett Auto Parts.
Wawa is taking off strong in Orlando and Tampa Bay. They have the lowest price in gas other than Costco, BJ's, and Sams who are all members only only places. Their hoagies are to die for and yes they have specials on one product at one time always including the 79 cents fountain drink special this Summer, the 4.79 hoagiefest, and the occasional dollar coffee. IMO they are the king of fast food now. They even knocked one 7-11 out on John Young and Silver Star just weeks after opening, but Racetrac is giving them a run though.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 17, 2014, 12:59:33 PM
Couple of weeks ago.
In my experience, Family Dollar and Dollar Tree serve two different types of clientele and two different markets. Family Dollars (and Dollar Generals, which used to be headquartered in Kentucky but now is HQ'd in Nashville) serve small towns and rural areas as well as larger towns. Even the smallest Kentucky county seat towns have a DG or FD, or both. And DG in particular is expanding into rural areas where no towns are around.
Dollar Trees are primarily in the larger towns and can usually be found in strip malls.
When it comes to Dollar Tree and Family Dollar, did not one of those just buyout the other?
Never heard of Wawa. Must be an east-coast thang...but I like hoagies! :sombrero:
Here in Ruston, LA, Lowes located behind Wal-Mart a few years ago, but there isn't a Home Depot any closer than 40 miles away (Monroe).
At the corner of California Ave. and Vienna St. in Ruston Wal-Greens located across from a Rite-Aid pharmacy (formerly K&B Drug...remember that name from the past?). Wal-greens also located close to I-20 on the northside, but no CVS anywhere nearby.
Quote from: roadman65 on August 17, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
If a Walgreens goes up on one corner, then the other corner must have a CVS here in Florida.
It's not much different in most places; although for Florida, Walgreens edged out Eckerd Drugs and CVS bought most of them out.
Five Guys Burger 'n' Fries; Firehouse Subs
These two often seem to be located in the same building (along with a few other small retailers). I think this is more because both have expanded aggressively in Columbus at about the same time, and the available retail space has been in new retail strips.
There are a number of retirement communities in the Pine Barrens not far from where I live. All they get are drug stores, banks and doctor's offices. As soon as I see a new building pad in that area, or a business closing, I know it's going to be one of those three soon after. Granted, getting Pinelands approval to put in a Walmart or other large retailer is not going to happen, but even a liquor store or a fast food joint would add some variety that is sorely needed out there.
Quote from: vtk on August 17, 2014, 03:47:01 PM
Five Guys Burger 'n' Fries; Firehouse Subs
These two often seem to be located in the same building (along with a few other small retailers). I think this is more because both have expanded aggressively in Columbus at about the same time, and the available retail space has been in new retail strips.
I was going to mention this one; they seem to have both expanded in their expansion in the past five years. Oddly, Columbus is one of the regions where you'd find them in the same plaza. But your reasoning is probably correct: Firehouse Subs uses the franchise model; I recall you have to purchase between 5-10 stores at a time, but Five Guys stores are entirely company-owned.
At least around here:
Qdoba & Chipotle
Subway & Cousins (although not as frequent anymore)
Target & Walmart
Menards & Home Depot
Milios & Jimmy Johns
Kohls & ShopKo
Probably not what the OP had in mind but every Walmart now seems to have a Subway inside.
In my area, the most obvious is Walgreens and CVS. I've noticed a lot of Menards and Home Depots near each other pretty much everywhere I've been except the Quad Cities.
As for Lowe's and Walmart, I had never heard of that combination going up next to each other, but there used to be a Walmart across from the Lowe's here in Davenport, and the Lowe's in Coralville, IA is across the interstate from Walmart.
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on August 17, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
When it comes to Dollar Tree and Family Dollar, did not one of those just buyout the other?
Dollar Tree is buying Family Dollar.
Drug stores. The deal is not really that they want to be near each other so much as they want to be near hospitals or medical office parks. Obviously that means near each other.
Old guy mode on.
Kroger used to own a drug store chain called SupeRX. Always next to a Kroger, and Kroger did not have a pharmacy inside nor did is sell the types of items that drug stores do. Sold them off. And then just put a pharmacy in the store. Whoever bought SupeRX didn't have a good lawyer, or they would have got a non-compete.
Back in the old days when general credit cards were not common for common people, Holiday Inn took Gulf Oil cards, and many Holiday Inns had a Gulf station on property.
Another one was that Shoney's used to own Captain D's, and they were often very near one another. Shoney's is dying, but the new owners of Captain D's have it going well.
How many Burger King's are located right near McDonalds? I never pay attention to that one, but mainly most interchanges have both. That could also be a coincidence being everybody wants to be near a freeway interchange. However what about in the cities and towns themselves? To me it seems like it varies.
Quote from: The Nature Boy on August 17, 2014, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: golden eagle on August 17, 2014, 10:55:51 AM
If you go to a CVS in the Jackson, chances are that a Walgreens is very close by. I also tend to see a Walmart whenever there's a Lowe's.
Both of those seem to be regional things. Outside of the South, I never see a Lowe's/Walmart coupling. it's pretty prevalent in the South though (for some reason).
Not just in the South: In my hometown (north-central PA) the first Wal-Mart and Lowe's in the region opened essentially next door to each other and about the same time (I think 1994). Similar couplings followed in Mill Hall, Shamokin Dam, and Buckhorn–accounting for 80% of Wal-Marts and every Lowe's in a seven-county region. It was enough to cause family members of mine to wonder whether the two were somehow connected.
My understanding is that these repeated pairings are sometimes more than just coincidental–that often a smaller retailer will mimic the expansion patterns of a larger retailer. If there's enough overlap in their target markets, a smaller retailer basically lets the larger one do all of the heavy groundwork of market surveying, site selection, and getting the wheels of local government turning.
A college textbook of mine said something similar of Red Roof Inns (referring to the era when they were consistent, company-owned properties–not the franchised mess they are today), but the difference being that Red Roof would allow Holiday Inn or Howard Johnson buy the expensive real estate right at the foot of the off-ramp, and Red Roof would intentionally buy the cheaper parcel slightly further back with less exposure. The intent being that a motorist would see Holiday Inn's towering sign and barrage of billboards, choose to exit for the night, but then when he was put off by Holiday Inn's high rates, he'd notice the lower-priced Red Roof Inn next door.
Quote from: The Nature Boy on August 17, 2014, 10:57:53 AM
What about McDonalds/Burger King? If you see one then you can be assured that the other is close by.
I've never noticed this–except to the extent that if you have a small town with one strip of franchised fast food places, there's a decent chance that nation's #1 and #2 burger chains are both going to be on that same strip. If anything, my experience is more that fast food burger chains tend to be "peppered" around an area, so that there may be a Burger King on one block, a Wendy's on another, and a McDonald's on a third, but I can't recall seeing many on opposing corners or next door to each other.
There's an economic theory on why a lot of this happens, which I first heard of in an intermediate microeconomics course in college. Look up "Hotelling's Law" or "Hotelling location theory" (named for Harold Hotelling, not specific to hotels though it can apply to them as well).
In a simple case of a town with only one main street, and customers are evenly distributed along the street, if there are only two competitors and location is the most important thing to customers, the competitors will tend to locate right next to each other, at the street's midpoint so that each has the inside track for half the market. If one of them locates at one end of the street, the other can take away most of its market share by setting up shop at the midpoint, whereupon the first guy will move also to the midpoint as soon as he can to erase his competitive disadvantage.
It gets much more complicated with more competitors, or more major streets, or customers who care more about things other than location. And sometimes not following the herd can be the best strategy, even theoretically. But the basic pressure to make your business locationally as much like your competitors as possible remains. I'm sure all the big retail chains have figured this all out.
A lot of it also has to do with zoning. For the most part it makes sense to be around other businesses, because people are traveling in that general direction anyway. And businesses near residential areas tend to draw the ire of nearby residents because of lighting, trash, noise, etc.
Like-business types (drug stores, big-box home improvement stores, etc) tend to feed off each other. I don't know the absolute specifics behind it, but studies and research have consistently shown businesses do better when they are near their competitors.
Sure, there are some businesses that are by themselves, without any other businesses around. And it's convenient if you happen to live near that business and are in need of that businesses' items. But in general, they don't tend to bring in as much revenue as businesses in more-established business districts.
Since "jeffandnicole" mentioned zoning, how does this sort of thing work out in Houston, since they don't have zoning there? If I've ever been to Houston it was when I was less than one year old and thus I wouldn't remember it. I've heard some stories from people who have lived there about arrangements that'd never be allowed in Virginia–one couple said their church backed up to a titty bar and they shared a dumpster, for example.
Quote from: golden eagle on August 17, 2014, 11:38:44 AM
I'm also starting to see Dollar General and Family Dollar stores being by each other, too.
Spiro, OK just had a Dollar General open about a block from Family Dollar. FD quickly imploded and closed.
Surprising, since in most areas I've seen, the two coexist quite well.
In a lot of small towns and rural communities, the dollar stores are the closest things to department stores you can find. Prices are a little higher than Walmart, store brands are not quite as good as the Walmart store brands, and the selection of products is not as varied as Walmart, but sometimes it's easier to run into a Family Dollar or Dollar General than it is to fight the crowd at Walmart.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 18, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
Surprising, since in most areas I've seen, the two coexist quite well.
In a lot of small towns and rural communities, the dollar stores are the closest things to department stores you can find. Prices are a little higher than Walmart, store brands are not quite as good as the Walmart store brands, and the selection of products is not as varied as Walmart, but sometimes it's easier to run into a Family Dollar or Dollar General than it is to fight the crowd at Walmart.
DG opened a new store here about a year and closed their old one. The FD up the street is still there, but looks "tired'
My one red light hometown got a Dollar General in about 2001 which was a big thing and Family Dollar popped up a few blocks away about 3 years later. You would think for a town of about 2000 people there isn't enough business for both but they co-exist pretty well.
Shreveport definitely tends to have all three drugstores near each other (Walgreens, CVS, and Rite Aid). Pines Rd at West 70th St. has them at 3 out of the 4 corners. There are also many strip malls I can think of that have some combination of the following: Best Buy, Lifeway Christian Bookstore, PetCo or PetSmart, TJMaxx or Marshall's, and maybe Michael's.
I was in Stuttgart, AR over the weekend. All the motels were within 2-3 blocks from each other. The "el roachos" were at one end of the "strip", the overpriced franchises at the other end. But nothing to eat after dark unless you drove across town to McDonald's or Dodge's Store.
Quote from: SP Cook on August 17, 2014, 08:58:59 PM
Old guy mode on.
Kroger used to own a drug store chain called SupeRX. Always next to a Kroger, and Kroger did not have a pharmacy inside nor did is sell the types of items that drug stores do. Sold them off. And then just put a pharmacy in the store. Whoever bought SupeRX didn't have a good lawyer, or they would have got a non-compete.
Is that when Kroger Sav-On became Kroger Food & Drug?
Tuscaloosa county must be heaven for Dollar General. We have two stores literally within eyesight of each other, and 2 others within a 2 mile radius. I was bored one day at work and counted up how many there were in the phonebook, and there were something like 20 or 22 listed for a population of under 200,000 people. I'm all for variety as far as grocery stores go, but how many Dollar Generals does one area really need?
There always seems to be a Qdoba right near a Noodles & Company. Like in the same strip mall building that's between the big box store/mall and the arterial street.
Sometimes the Qdoba is a Chipotle, but those are effectively the same restaurant. (Seriously, all their food is identical.) So a Chipotle near a Noodles & Co counts.
If you have those two chains around, then it will not be far to the nearest Jimmy Johns. Once you have all three, then the odds of finding a college campus in the neighborhood just went up exponentially. Gee, I wonder why? :rolleyes:
In smaller cities (particularly if there's one freeway interchange), a "restaurant row" will tend to develop, sating consumer expectation. In larger cities which have developed over time, the fast food joints could definitely be scattered. I've noticed that some Wendy's locations have been closer to residential areas than other chains in the market segment. (It was definitely the closest primarily burger chain [since I count DQ as primarily soft serve] one to where I grew up in Kalamazoo's Milwood neighborhood, although that particular location closed a couple years ago and is now the site of local breakfast chain East Egg.)
At least as far as pharmacies go, I'm wondering if one will eventually occupy the old Walgreens location in the Verona neighborhood in Battle Creek, since Walgreens built a brand new store across the street. Rite Aid seems to not be in the mood to have as many locations as Walgreens, and I don't think CVS has ever tried Battle Creek. The "dollar" chains seem to be a dime a dozen, as they exist close to residential areas (one of those could easily occupy the old Walgreens space.).
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 18, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
Since "jeffandnicole" mentioned zoning, how does this sort of thing work out in Houston, since they don't have zoning there?
Wait, what? Houston doesn't have zoning? I seriously never knew that.
Anyway, I used to work for a company that ran stores under the name The Shoe Dept. They locate a huge number of stores (around 1100 when I left) near Walmarts. They are notoriously cheap and avoid advertising so being in high traffic centers is a plus.
Quote from: 6a on August 20, 2014, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 18, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
Since "jeffandnicole" mentioned zoning, how does this sort of thing work out in Houston, since they don't have zoning there?
Wait, what? Houston doesn't have zoning? I seriously never knew that.
IIRC, the series
How The States Got Their Shapes had at least part of an episode devoted to Houston's lack of zoning.
Some used-to-be's:
Radio Shack and Tandy Leather
Outback Steakhouse and Carrabba's Italian Grill
In Ohio: SOHIO and Dutch Pantry
How about Sears and JCPenney? If you found one anchoring a mall, you'd often find the other there as well. And I guess you could say the same about any number of stores, past and present, that locate primarily if not exclusively in malls, e.g., Foot Locker, Kay-Bee Toys, etc.
Regarding Kroger and SuperX, you'd often find a drug store near a supermarket, back in the days before pharmacies inside supermarkets became the rule rather than the exception. (This is why if a supermarket has a pharmacy, a sign on the outside would say so, or add the words "Food and Drug" in the case of Kroger, or pair the store name with that of a drug store, e.g. "Kroger Sav-on", "Jewel-Osco", etc.) You were also likely to find a liquor store next to a grocery -- and still do in states where supermarkets cannot sell alcoholic beverages.
Then there's the collection of core businesses that locate together in the "neighborhood shopping center" in planned communities:
Supermarket
Drug Store (if not combined)
Liquor Store (again, if not combined)
Pizza Place
Bagel Place
Chinese Restaurant
Dry Cleaner
Bank
Sports Bar/Nightclub/Lounge
Quote from: lepidopteran on August 20, 2014, 09:15:46 PM
Outback Steakhouse and Carrabba's Italian Grill
On Arkwright Rd. off of I-75 in Macon, GA there is an Outback & a Carrabba's right next to eachother on the north side of the exit.
Also, agreeing with other posts on this thread, I see Walgreen's, CVS, Rite Aid Pharmacy,
any combination of two of those three chains is
very common at some intersections, at least around here.
Quote from: 6a on August 20, 2014, 07:31:58 PM
Anyway, I used to work for a company that ran stores under the name The Shoe Dept. They locate a huge number of stores (around 1100 when I left) near Walmarts. They are notoriously cheap and avoid advertising so being in high traffic centers is a plus.
Strip malls seem to be popping up next to alot of Wal-Marts in my area. They seem to all have the same stores:
Shoe Show (Shoe Dept.'s arch nemesis)
Game Stop
Dollar Tree
Anytime Fitness
at least one or two eateries...the one next to the Ruston Wal-Mart has Cheeburger-Cheeburger and Ronin Hibachi Grill
Red Lobster and Olive Garden
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2014, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: 6a on August 20, 2014, 07:31:58 PM
Anyway, I used to work for a company that ran stores under the name The Shoe Dept. They locate a huge number of stores (around 1100 when I left) near Walmarts. They are notoriously cheap and avoid advertising so being in high traffic centers is a plus.
Strip malls seem to be popping up next to alot of Wal-Marts in my area. They seem to all have the same stores:
Shoe Show (Shoe Dept.'s arch nemesis)
I'll let you in on an insider secret: those are the same company :) In practice the two have nothing to do with each other but the corporate name is actually Shoe Show Inc.
I know of a handful of places that have both inside the same mall/center. The Dept is just an upscale version.
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Quote from: US71 on August 20, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
Red Lobster and Olive Garden
They both used to be part of Dardens Restaurant concepts...Possibly a Longhorn Steakhouse and/or Bahamas Breeze nearby, as well.
Same with http://www.bloominbrands.com/home/index.aspx - Outback, Carrabba's, Bonefish Grill, etc. After Chi-Chi's went under (RIP), many of their restaurants were purchased by the Outback corporation, and were divided into two restaurants. In a case near me, it became Outback & Bonefish (and the Outback is even open for lunch during weekdays; a relative rarity within that chain).
In Delaware near I-95's Exit 4, a Chi-Chis became a Cheeseburger in Paradise & the remainder was leased for a Dunkin Donuts. Cheeseburger is no longer part of Outback's portfolio...and this particular location has since shut down completely.
Barber Shops and Beauty Salons
These two, located near each other or even adjacent, are not as common as they used to be. It was once very simple: men go to the barber, women to the beauty parlor. But nowadays, the term "Beauty Salon" has given way to the more mundane "Hair Salon", as they're more likely to be unisex. Or even a fancy-sounding "Day Spa" if they offer other services like manicures and facials. Yet barber shops are still around, complete with the rotating red-white-and-blue pole out front. Barbers are actually my preference, per that old joke:
Q: What's the difference between a barber and a hairstylist?
A: About 20 bucks.
Quote from: lepidopteran on August 21, 2014, 01:54:23 PM
Q: What's the difference between a barber and a hairstylist?
A: About 20 bucks.
I disagree with that statement - whenever I actually want a haircut, I go to a salon, and I pay equivalent to a barbershop, plus I don't risk getting that buzzcut I managed to get in 8th grade when I asked for an inch off and not "leave me with an inch". God damn I think that's when I stopped going to barbers. (That, and I grew my hair out much longer than before after that fiasco) My average haircut costs roughly $20, and that's with a tip. At least in the 'Boro, there's no difference in cost between a barber and a salon.
Quote from: lepidopteran on August 20, 2014, 09:15:46 PM
Then there's the collection of core businesses that locate together in the "neighborhood shopping center" in planned communities:
Supermarket
Drug Store (if not combined)
Liquor Store (again, if not combined)
Pizza Place
Bagel Place
Chinese Restaurant
Dry Cleaner
Bank
Sports Bar/Nightclub/Lounge
With the exception of a lounge / bar, the shopping center(s) in Hillsborough has
at least one of each item on that list.
Quote from: Zeffy on August 21, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on August 21, 2014, 01:54:23 PM
Q: What's the difference between a barber and a hairstylist?
A: About 20 bucks.
I disagree with that statement - whenever I actually want a haircut, I go to a salon, and I pay equivalent to a barbershop, plus I don't risk getting that buzzcut I managed to get in 8th grade when I asked for an inch off and not "leave me with an inch". God damn I think that's when I stopped going to barbers. (That, and I grew my hair out much longer than before after that fiasco) My average haircut costs roughly $20, and that's with a tip. At least in the 'Boro, there's no difference in cost between a barber and a salon.
Wow, that's pricey! When I was in college, there was a place in Houghton, MI doing hair cuts (decent ones too) for $6. Now, I usually spend $13 with the tip.
Whenever I get a haircut (which currently is rarely, lol. I've had long hair since 4th grade.) it's about 10 bucks. I go to a barber but he does a good job.
Quote from: Brandon on August 21, 2014, 03:05:24 PM
Wow, that's pricey! When I was in college, there was a place in Houghton, MI doing hair cuts (decent ones too) for $6. Now, I usually spend $13 with the tip.
One of my friends in Minnesota spends $25 more than I do and claims "it's worth it because cheaper = worse job" which I say is bullshit. Plus, I guess it depends on HOW you get your hair cut - if I recall correctly, it is cheaper to get a clipper cut rather than using scissors in most places.
my wife cuts my hair.
I will not under any circumstances attempt to return the favor. she believes her $50-60 stylist trips are worth the money, and I - having no data points apart from the result and the knowledge that I couldn't achieve it - believe her.
Around me, it's getting pretty hard to even find a traditional barber anymore. Seems like every time I turn around another chain hair care place is opening up (Cost Cutters, Great Clips, Sport Clips, etc.). With tip, I usually only spend about $18...and I've only had one "bad" haircut, (which was partially my fault anyway).
Quote from: DaBigE on August 21, 2014, 05:18:56 PM
Around me, it's getting pretty hard to even find a traditional barber anymore. Seems like every time I turn around another chain hair care place is opening up (Cost Cutters, Great Clips, Sport Clips, etc.). With tip, I usually only spend about $18...and I've only had one "bad" haircut, (which was partially my fault anyway).
That's happening everywhere. The "hair salons" are taking over. My local hair guy just remodeled his shop so he can lease space to a professional stylist. He has hired two, but neither lasted more than 3 days...don't know why.
I haven't paid for a haircut in 18 years! Not hard to shave your own hair bald.
My haircuts are something like $50 but I have longer hair, and only get it cut every 3 months or so. My wife and I even go to the same stylist.
I was paying $15-$20 to get my hair cut but since the first of the year, my wife has been using the clippers on me. Not terribly hard to do when you use a #1 guard on the back and sides, and a #3 guard on the front and top.
When are the haircut chains going to roll out a "Free Hat Guarantee"? Get a good haircut or they'll throw in a free hat to wear until it grows back.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on August 21, 2014, 11:49:27 PM
When are the haircut chains going to roll out a "Free Hat Guarantee"? Get a good haircut or they'll throw in a free hat to wear until it grows back.
The hat would probably be as bad as the haircut.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 21, 2014, 08:26:08 AMIn Delaware near I-95's Exit 4, a Chi-Chis became a Cheeseburger in Paradise & the remainder was leased for a Dunkin Donuts. Cheeseburger is no longer part of Outback's portfolio...and this particular location has since shut down completely.
There's a Fuddruckers there now.
Quote from: elsmere241 on August 22, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 21, 2014, 08:26:08 AMIn Delaware near I-95's Exit 4, a Chi-Chis became a Cheeseburger in Paradise & the remainder was leased for a Dunkin Donuts. Cheeseburger is no longer part of Outback's portfolio...and this particular location has since shut down completely.
There's a Fuddruckers there now.
Off of I-75 in Ga on Exit 333 (in Dalton) off of SR 52 a
long time ago there was a Fuddrucker's. I can't remember what year it close but it was at least five years ago, and the sign is
still up, though the building is closed and abandoned, never being turned into anything new. There's also an abandoned Kroger next to the abandoned Fuddrucker's a new Kroger being built just a little ways down the street in a huge shopping area. I miss Fuddrucker's and now Dalton doesn't have one :pan:
Quote from: elsmere241 on August 22, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 21, 2014, 08:26:08 AMIn Delaware near I-95's Exit 4, a Chi-Chis became a Cheeseburger in Paradise & the remainder was leased for a Dunkin Donuts. Cheeseburger is no longer part of Outback's portfolio...and this particular location has since shut down completely.
There's a Fuddruckers there now.
Luby's owns both Fuddruckers and Cheeseburger In Paradise* now.
*Not to be mistaken with Cheeseburger Restaurants in California and Hawai'i.
Quote from: 6a on August 21, 2014, 07:28:40 PM
My wife and I even go to the same stylist.
That's why it costs $50.
Quote from: Zeffy on August 21, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
I disagree with that statement - whenever I actually want a haircut, I go to a salon, and I pay equivalent to a barbershop, plus I don't risk getting that buzzcut I managed to get in 8th grade when I asked for an inch off and not "leave me with an inch". God damn I think that's when I stopped going to barbers.
That's the standard middle school haircut you see on 80% of middle school boys though. If you ask me it looks terrible on kids that age.
Quote from: GCrites80s on August 22, 2014, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 21, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
I disagree with that statement - whenever I actually want a haircut, I go to a salon, and I pay equivalent to a barbershop, plus I don't risk getting that buzzcut I managed to get in 8th grade when I asked for an inch off and not "leave me with an inch". God damn I think that's when I stopped going to barbers.
That's the standard middle school haircut you see on 80% of middle school boys though. If you ask me it looks terrible on kids that age.
Not really, at least where I live. All the football players this year
have to be shaved, and in general not that many people have buzz cuts. I have fairly long hair, which a good bit of the kids have.
On the rare occasion that I get a haircut, I walk to the Hair Cuttery down the street. I think I've had it cut once in the past year? Maybe it was $15 and a $5 tip? My hair doesn't want to grow past my chest, and since I like it this length, there it stays.
Back in my undergrad days when I was more adventurous, I had a friend who worked in a salon who did my hair. I think she was $30? (My hair was also shorter then.)
Also, having worked at two different Rite Aids and having had a father who worked an upper management position, it's intentional that Rite Aid/CVS/Walgreens are right next to each other. People generally have their personal preference of drug store brand and will gravitate toward it, unless the competition is closer or more convenient. When they expanded the size of their stores in the late 90's and 2000's, they would intentionally upgrade the stores next to or near the ones that the competition was also upgrading.
Quote from: golden eagle on August 21, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
I haven't paid for a haircut in 18 years! Not hard to shave your own hair bald.
x2!! The cost of razors & shaving gel are so much cheaper!
Quote from: cjk374 on August 22, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on August 21, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
I haven't paid for a haircut in 18 years! Not hard to shave your own hair bald.
x2!! The cost of razors & shaving gel are so much cheaper!
Throw in heavy doses of sunscreen. That'll even it out. Even with hair, I go from zero to burn in no time flat.
Quote from: Brandon on August 23, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 22, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on August 21, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
I haven't paid for a haircut in 18 years! Not hard to shave your own hair bald.
x2!! The cost of razors & shaving gel are so much cheaper!
Throw in heavy doses of sunscreen. That'll even it out. Even with hair, I go from zero to burn in no time flat.
I don't use sunscreen on my head, much to the shagrin of my fiance...I burn (hurts like hell :evilgrin: ), I tan, then it doesn't burn as often.
Beside zoning considerations, businesses do their market research. If it turns out that corner would be a good place for Walgreens, CVS might find out the same thing.
We had a consultant say that if you're looking for a place for a new church, look for a new McDonald's. Let them pay for the research.
A few years ago I noticed that several strip malls in the area would have the same unrelated businesses in them. I don't recall what they were now, but it was something like specialty retailers and a haircut chain. I wasn't aware of them being owned by a common parent corporation. Perhaps their parent corporations got together and convinced the strip mall owner(s) to give them a discount for renting 2 or 3 places at the same time?
Quote from: cjk374 on August 23, 2014, 12:07:04 AM
Quote from: Brandon on August 23, 2014, 12:00:40 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 22, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on August 21, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
I haven't paid for a haircut in 18 years! Not hard to shave your own hair bald.
x2!! The cost of razors & shaving gel are so much cheaper!
Throw in heavy doses of sunscreen. That'll even it out. Even with hair, I go from zero to burn in no time flat.
I don't use sunscreen on my head, much to the shagrin of my fiance...I burn (hurts like hell :evilgrin: ), I tan, then it doesn't burn as often.
What's tanning? :-D For me, it's pink, burn, peel, repeat. Hair and hat for me is the only way to go in the sun. :sombrero:
Quote from: Laura on August 22, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
Also, having worked at two different Rite Aids and having had a father who worked an upper management position, it's intentional that Rite Aid/CVS/Walgreens are right next to each other. People generally have their personal preference of drug store brand and will gravitate toward it, unless the competition is closer or more convenient. When they expanded the size of their stores in the late 90's and 2000's, they would intentionally upgrade the stores next to or near the ones that the competition was also upgrading.
Sounds like the Hotelling location theory (which I mentioned upthread) at work.