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My state of Florida has 7 general DOT districts plus the Florida's Turnpike Enterprise composing 8 DOT districts.

The Wisconsin Department of Transportation has five:

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NJDOT has 3 regions (north, central, and south), but 4 districts (north is split into 2)
NJ Turnpike has 9 maintenance districts
Don't know how many the GS Parkway or AC Expressway have if any

A dozen districts for Kentucky. Each is known by a district number rather than by a region name or city name.

http://transportation.ky.gov/Pages/Highway-Districts.aspx

Iowa has 6 districts, and Illinois has 5 regions split into 9 districts. The only region in Illinois that has one district is Region/District 1 (Chicago).

California has 12 districts.  Like Kentucky, districts are numbered.

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VDOT has 9:

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We have 5 in Ontario, geographically named.

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Years ago we had as many as 18 districts (each both numbered and geographically named by the district office location), but consolidation has whittled it down. Some work is still geographically subdivided within the individual regions.

Quote from: pianocello on August 19, 2014, 11:33:43 AM
Iowa has 6 districts, and Illinois has 5 regions split into 9 districts. The only region in Illinois that has one district is Region/District 1 (Chicago).

And each one has a number and a name.

1 - Chicago/Schaumburg (actual location)
2 - Dixon
3 - Ottawa
4 - Peoria
5 - Paris
6 - Capital/Springfield
7 - Effingham
8 - Collinsville
9 - Carbondale

Quote from: myosh_tino on August 19, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
California has 12 districts.

11.  I don't recognize the secession of Orange County.

PennDOT has eleven, numbered beginning in the northwest corner and continuing roughly clockwise around the state to the southwest. There's no District 7 (which logically would be in the Berks-Lancaster area), and I've never found an explanation as to why. (This old Post-Gazette article (http://old.post-gazette.com/transportation/20030713gratacol0713p2.asp) basically says "Don't ask–there's no logical reason. It's PennDOT."

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Each district is further divided into sub-districts with the -0 denoting the primary engineering office for the entire district (shown as the red cross on the map) and then -1, -2, identifying secondary maintenance offices, stockpiles, etc. by county.

For example District 8 has an engineering office in Harrisburg (8-0). Any maintenance office or stockpile in Adams County would be identified 8-1; Cumberland County is 8-2.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 19, 2014, 02:06:49 PM

Quote from: myosh_tino on August 19, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
California has 12 districts.

11.  I don't recognize the secession of Orange County.

:rofl:

FWIW, there was a push a while back to split off Santa Clara County into it's own district but I haven't heard much about this lately.

Yeah, why is Orange Co its own district?

Anyway, Ohio has twelve:

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Alaska has Northern, Central, and Southeastern regions.  Central is Anchorage area and southwestern Alaska; Southeastern is the panhandle; Northern is the rest of the state.

Hawaii has Kauai, Oahu, Maui, and Hawaii divisions, corresponding to Kauai County, Honolulu County, Maui County, and Hawaii County (the Big Island).

Quote from: 6a on August 19, 2014, 04:04:59 PM
Yeah, why is Orange Co its own district?

belly-aching.

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-01-22/local/me-323_1_orange-county-office

QuoteEvery so often Orange County officials get upset with the California Department of Transportation over how much money is allocated for county projects, the delay in completing scheduled projects, or both. That's when the "let's have an office of our own" fever breaks out.

This was the gist of Santa Clara County's beef with District 4 (too much focus on San Francisco, Alameda and Contra Costa counties, not enough on Santa Clara).

Quote from: pianocello on August 19, 2014, 11:33:43 AM
Iowa has 6 districts, and Illinois has 5 regions split into 9 districts. The only region in Illinois that has one district is Region/District 1 (Chicago).

Iowa DOT has the goal of a single district, right around Des Moines.  The rest of the state can be all gravel county roads for all they care.


Grrrr.


:-o

Quote from: 6a on August 19, 2014, 04:04:59 PM
Anyway, Ohio has twelve:

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To expand on this, the districts are primarily identified by number, at least on the public-facing side of things. They are also identified by the city where the district office is located, and I get the feeling this is more prominent within ODOT. However, the twiter account for district 6, rather than using that number or a reference to the city of Delaware, is called @odot_columbus .

NYSDOT has 11:

1- Albany, extreme northern Hudson Valley/Catskills, eastern Adirondacks
2- Utica, Herkimer, southern and central Adirondacks
3- Syracuse, Ithaca, eastern Finger Lakes
4- Rochester, western Finger Lakes, Genesee Valley
5- Buffalo, Niagara Falls (Western New York)
6- Corning, Hornell, Elmira, Southern Tier
7- Watertown, Plattsburgh (North Country)
8- Hudson Valley, eastern Catskills
9- Western Catskills, Binghamton
10- Long Island
11- NYC

Region Map (https://www.dot.ny.gov/jobs/repository/Tab/Tab/NYSDOT%20Regional%20Map.pdf)

Edit: NYSTA has 4:

Buffalo- West of Exit 45, I-190
Syracuse- East of 29A to 45
Albany- 18 to west of 29, Berkshire Spur
New York- South of Exit 18, I-287, GSP connector, New England Thruway/I-95

Indiana has six:

Northwest - LaPorte
Northeast - Fort Wayne
West Central - Crawfordsville
East Central - Greenfield
Southwest - Vincennes
Southeast - Seymour

It would seem that geographic name and city name (where the main office is located) are used about equally.

Maryland has 7.  Baltimore City is not in any of them because the SHA does not maintain any roads in the city.

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Alabama has 9 currently. They missed the office in Marshall County just north of Guntersville on the map though.
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North Carolina has 14.

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Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2014, 06:19:29 PM
NYSDOT has 11:

1- Albany, extreme northern Hudson Valley/Catskills, eastern Adirondacks
2- Utica, Herkimer, southern and central Adirondacks
3- Syracuse, Ithaca, eastern Finger Lakes
4- Rochester, western Finger Lakes, Genesee Valley
5- Buffalo, Niagara Falls (Western New York)
6- Corning, Hornell, Elmira, Southern Tier
7- Watertown, Plattsburgh (North Country)
8- Hudson Valley, eastern Catskills
9- Western Catskills, Binghamton
10- Long Island
11- NYC

Region Map (https://www.dot.ny.gov/jobs/repository/Tab/Tab/NYSDOT%20Regional%20Map.pdf)

Edit: NYSTA has 4:

Buffalo- West of Exit 45, I-190
Syracuse- East of 29A to 45
Albany- 18 to west of 29, Berkshire Spur
New York- South of Exit 18, I-287, GSP connector, New England Thruway/I-95

Each DOT region also has a number of residencies that store construction equipment and handle things like bridge inspections.  I get the impression that the NYSTA regions are like NYSDOT residencies.

Also: http://www.nysroads.com/regions.php

Georgia has seven (http://www.dot.ga.gov/informationcenter/maps/Documents/GDOTDistricts_CountyFIPS/GDOTDistrictEngineersMap.pdf).

District 1 - northeast Georgia
District 2 - east central Georgia
District 3 - west central Georgia
District 4 - southwest Georgia
District 5 - southeast Georgia
District 6 - northwest Georgia
District 7 - inner metro Atlanta (Clayton, Cobb, DeKalb, Douglas, Fulton, and Rockdale counties)

Quote from: vdeane on August 19, 2014, 07:28:55 PM

Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2014, 06:19:29 PM
NYSDOT has 11:

1- Albany, extreme northern Hudson Valley/Catskills, eastern Adirondacks
2- Utica, Herkimer, southern and central Adirondacks
3- Syracuse, Ithaca, eastern Finger Lakes
4- Rochester, western Finger Lakes, Genesee Valley
5- Buffalo, Niagara Falls (Western New York)
6- Corning, Hornell, Elmira, Southern Tier
7- Watertown, Plattsburgh (North Country)
8- Hudson Valley, eastern Catskills
9- Western Catskills, Binghamton
10- Long Island
11- NYC

Region Map (https://www.dot.ny.gov/jobs/repository/Tab/Tab/NYSDOT%20Regional%20Map.pdf)

Edit: NYSTA has 4:

Buffalo- West of Exit 45, I-190
Syracuse- East of 29A to 45
Albany- 18 to west of 29, Berkshire Spur
New York- South of Exit 18, I-287, GSP connector, New England Thruway/I-95

Each DOT region also has a number of residencies that store construction equipment and handle things like bridge inspections.  I get the impression that the NYSTA regions are like NYSDOT residencies.

Also: http://www.nysroads.com/regions.php

Except each Thruway "region" has several separate maintenance residencies (http://www.thruway.ny.gov/about/factbook.html#maintenance). I can't find a list, but I know that there's a district out of Batavia, for example.

Louisiana has nine highway maintenance districts:

http://wwwsp.dotd.la.gov/Inside_LaDOTD/Divisions/Multimodal/Data_Collection/Mapping/Misc%20Documents/State_Map_Districts.pdf

02 - Bridge City (includes New Orleans and Houma)
03 - Lafayette
04 - Bossier City (includes Shreveport)
05 - Monroe
58 - Chase
61 - Baton Rouge
62 - Hammond
07 - Lake Charles
08 - Alexandria

The DOTD districts are based on old congressional district boundaries. Since Louisiana historically had 8 congressional districts there are up to eight DOTD districts numerically. US House District 1 comprised only the city of New Orleans historically, so DOTD absorbed it into District 2 (it is unclear if there ever was a highway district 1). As you can guess, 61 and 62 are splits of old district 6, and 58 is a split of parts of districts 5 and 8 which was created in the 1950s.

There has been talk of eliminating and consolidating some districts to save costs, particularly District 58 which includes no major cities.

Does the Ohio Turnpike Authority have any kind of geographical divisions?

SD has 4
Pierre
Mitchell
Aberdeen
Rapid City

Quote from: briantroutman on August 19, 2014, 02:34:34 PM
PennDOT has eleven, numbered beginning in the northwest corner and continuing roughly clockwise around the state to the southwest. There's no District 7 (which logically would be in the Berks-Lancaster area), and I've never found an explanation as to why. (This old Post-Gazette article (http://old.post-gazette.com/transportation/20030713gratacol0713p2.asp) basically says "Don't ask–there's no logical reason. It's PennDOT."

There was at one time a Division 7-0, but I based on this (http://ftp://ftp.dot.state.pa.us/public/Bureaus/design/Design_Pride/DesignPrideWinterS1-2.pdf), the districts were redistricted in the 1930s and Division 7-0 just disappeared. No attempts to renumber the districts have been made.

WSDOT has eight regions (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Regions/), arranged on county lines:

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MnDOT has 7 Districts (numbered 1-4 and 6-8) plus Metro Division (yes, a Division instead of a District) which covers the 7-county Twin Cities metro area plus Chisago County.  Metro Division was created from Districts 5 (West Metro) and 9 (East Metro), hence the gap in current district numbering.  One can still see references to the old numbering in some documents.

Each outstate district is split into two or (in District 8) three maintenance areas, with each maintenance area having an office.  The District HQ doubles as the maintenance area office for the area it's located in.

The Districts are also known by the city their HQ is located in (such as District 1-Duluth) and some districts label both the HQ city and the other maintenance area office located in the district (like District 3-Brainerd/St. Cloud).

To echo what some others have said about how their state's districts/divisions are subdivided, Kentucky has done something similar. The current administration reorganized the district offices and combined construction and maintenance into one organizational unit. Now, each district office has four branches:

Project development (just what it sounds like, planning and designing projects)
Engineering support (equipment, traffic [signs and signals], permits, structures, roadside [spraying/vegetation/tree removal])
Project delivery and preservation I & II (two branches, each covering approximately half the district, for construction inspection and maintenance functions)

This does not include the district office staff that handles accounting, secretarial, payroll, personnel, buildings and grounds, public relations and other administrative functions.

Each county has at least one maintenance garage (Floyd County, in eastern Kentucky, has two garages; and Pike County, the largest county in the state, has three garages; there may be other counties with multiple garages of which I am unaware)

Each project delivery and preservation branch has two sections, headed by a section supervisor (section engineer) with responsibility over construction inspection and maintenance functions in the counties covered by that section.

This reorganization was opposed by many within the districts, as they felt it made no sense to combine construction and maintenance. (The old organization had five branches: Operations (maintenance), Construction, Pre-construction (project development), Planning and a fifth branch for which I cannot remember the formal title, but it handled traffic/permits/etc.)

In my district, we have one PD&P branch that covers the southernmost counties. A new section office was built at Hazard and a new section office was built adjacent to the district office in Jackson, which many feel was a waste of money. The other PD&P Branch covers the northernmost counties and the section offices are using existing facilities at Slade and West Liberty. Those section offices replaced what were called resident engineers' offices, whose responsibility was overseeing and inspecting construction and contractor jobs, and they were located at Jackson, West Liberty, Slade and Irvine. Due to politics, the Irvine office has remained open with just a couple of staffers.

If I ran things, I'd separate construction and maintenance again (if anything, I'd put construction in with project development and have the inspectors under the supervision of the developers/planners) and I'd place the traffic functions (signage and signals), roadside/agronomy and structures (bridges) in with maintenance, as it seems to me like those are the logical places for those functions.

Michigan has 7:  Superior, North, Grand, Bay, Southwest, University, Metro.

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Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2014, 08:22:58 PM

Quote from: vdeane on August 19, 2014, 07:28:55 PM

Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2014, 06:19:29 PM
NYSDOT has 11:

1- Albany, extreme northern Hudson Valley/Catskills, eastern Adirondacks
2- Utica, Herkimer, southern and central Adirondacks
3- Syracuse, Ithaca, eastern Finger Lakes
4- Rochester, western Finger Lakes, Genesee Valley
5- Buffalo, Niagara Falls (Western New York)
6- Corning, Hornell, Elmira, Southern Tier
7- Watertown, Plattsburgh (North Country)
8- Hudson Valley, eastern Catskills
9- Western Catskills, Binghamton
10- Long Island
11- NYC

Region Map (https://www.dot.ny.gov/jobs/repository/Tab/Tab/NYSDOT%20Regional%20Map.pdf)

Edit: NYSTA has 4:

Buffalo- West of Exit 45, I-190
Syracuse- East of 29A to 45
Albany- 18 to west of 29, Berkshire Spur
New York- South of Exit 18, I-287, GSP connector, New England Thruway/I-95

Each DOT region also has a number of residencies that store construction equipment and handle things like bridge inspections.  I get the impression that the NYSTA regions are like NYSDOT residencies.

Also: http://www.nysroads.com/regions.php

Except each Thruway "region" has several separate maintenance residencies (http://www.thruway.ny.gov/about/factbook.html#maintenance). I can't find a list, but I know that there's a district out of Batavia, for example.

Interesting.  I wonder what they actually do, given that the entire Thruway system has less roadway than a NYSDOT region.  I think they even do their pavement sufficiency from the main office (NYSDOT Main Office outsources that to the regions).

Quote from: vdeane on August 20, 2014, 12:46:27 PM

Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2014, 08:22:58 PM

Quote from: vdeane on August 19, 2014, 07:28:55 PM

Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2014, 06:19:29 PM
NYSDOT has 11:

1- Albany, extreme northern Hudson Valley/Catskills, eastern Adirondacks
2- Utica, Herkimer, southern and central Adirondacks
3- Syracuse, Ithaca, eastern Finger Lakes
4- Rochester, western Finger Lakes, Genesee Valley
5- Buffalo, Niagara Falls (Western New York)
6- Corning, Hornell, Elmira, Southern Tier
7- Watertown, Plattsburgh (North Country)
8- Hudson Valley, eastern Catskills
9- Western Catskills, Binghamton
10- Long Island
11- NYC

Region Map (https://www.dot.ny.gov/jobs/repository/Tab/Tab/NYSDOT%20Regional%20Map.pdf)

Edit: NYSTA has 4:

Buffalo- West of Exit 45, I-190
Syracuse- East of 29A to 45
Albany- 18 to west of 29, Berkshire Spur
New York- South of Exit 18, I-287, GSP connector, New England Thruway/I-95

Each DOT region also has a number of residencies that store construction equipment and handle things like bridge inspections.  I get the impression that the NYSTA regions are like NYSDOT residencies.

Also: http://www.nysroads.com/regions.php

Except each Thruway "region" has several separate maintenance residencies (http://www.thruway.ny.gov/about/factbook.html#maintenance). I can't find a list, but I know that there's a district out of Batavia, for example.

Interesting.  I wonder what they actually do, given that the entire Thruway system has less roadway than a NYSDOT region.  I think they even do their pavement sufficiency from the main office (NYSDOT Main Office outsources that to the regions).

Plowing, minor patching, striping, guard rail, mowing, emergency repairs. Each "section" does ~28 miles of highway, which, including interchanges, is likely no less than 100 lane-miles. Each "division"/region isn't much smaller than Region 11.

http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/districts/PublishingImages/districtmap.gif (http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/districts/PublishingImages/districtmap.gif)

WV has 10 districts, based strictly on county lines.   Each district is headed by either a District Engineer, who must be a PE, or a District Manager, which is a change the politicians did about 10 years ago and is bad IMHO.  Each county is headed by a County Superintendent who is in charge of all roads in the county (WV has no county roads in the sense that the term is used in most of the country) except for expressways.   Expressways (interstates, Appalachian Corridors, and US 35) are broken up into segments and operated as a de facto separate county called an "Expressway Organization" headed by an "Expressway Superintendent".  While still in a district, the borders of EOs are not the same, based on exits, rather than county lines.  (ex: I-64 EO Segment A, a part of District 2 (Huntington) and I-64 EO Segment B, a part of District 1 (Charleston) border at the Milton exit, rather than the Putnam-Cabell line.

Massachusetts originally had eight highway Districts, which were generally divided by county lines.  In general, District 1 covered Berkshire County, District 2 covered Franklin, Hampshire, and Hampden Counties, District 3 covered Worcester County, District 4 covered Middlesex and Norfolk Counties, District 5 covered Essex County, District 6 covered Bristol and Plymouth Counties, District 7 covered Barnstable, Dukes, and Nantucket Counties, and District 8 covered Suffolk County.

In 1992, as part of the reorganization under then Commissioner Jim Kerasiotes (who subsequently became Mass. Secretary of Transportation and then Mass. Turnpike Authority Chairman), which also resulted in the name change from Mass. Department of Public Works to MassHighway, the District offices were consolidated.  District 1 was expanded to include part of Franklin, Hampshire, and Hampden Counties in addition to Berkshire.  District 3 was left intact.  District 4 was expanded to include Essex County and most of Suffolk County, with the exception of the Big Dig and Downtown Boston - which became part of the then-newly created Metropolitan Highway System (overseen and entirely funded by the Turnpike Authority, creation of the MHS - which was done by Legislative Act - was the means the state used to satisfy FHWA financing requirements for the Big Dig).  District 5 had its number re-assigned to an expanded district covering Bristol, Plymouth, Barnstable, Dukes, and Nantucket Counties.  Districts 6, 7 and 8 were eliminated.

In 2009, as part of the MassDOT merger that eliminated the Turnpike Authority and the MHS, District 4 was shrunk to eliminate Suffolk County and part of Norfolk County - these counties because part of the new District 6.  The relevant portions of the Mass. Turnpike were absorbed into Districts 1, 2, 3, and 6 as well.

In response to hbelkin's post about DOT organization, as regards engineering activities, every MassDOT district has their own maintenance, traffic, structures, construction, projects, and planning sections.  All these sections are replicated in the Boston HQ office at 10 Park Plaza as well.  In addition, Boston HQ also has Project Management, Construction Management, and Construction Contracts sections, as well as the usual administrative sections you would find at a DOT (HR, Fiscal Management, and the like).

As far as the organization of these sections, most of the day to day work is done at the District level, with Boston HQ mostly providing support and policy level decisions.  The notable exceptions are for larger projects, which are designed and directly overseen through either Boston HQ Project Management or Traffic Engineering.  Once a construction project is awarded, oversight of the project is handled by the applicable District's construction office.

I take that the reason why Nantucket is not part of the districts is because it has no state highways on it?

Quote from: roadman65 on August 20, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
I take that the reason why Nantucket is not part of the districts is because it has no state highways on it?

Oops - forgot about Nantucket County, which IIRC has one (and only one) unnumbered state highway on it.  Have corrected my post - thanks.

To add to my info about Kentucky's district structure, and inspired by SP Cook's post about West Virginia, each district is headed by a person alternately known as either Chief District Engineer or Executive Director. This person is politically appointed and is in a non-merit position, not protected by civil service laws. He or she is required to be a PE.

Currently, each district also has an Administrative Coordinator who primarily handles personnel, but supervises the accounting and payroll staff. This position was created by the current administration and is also a politically appointed position. This position replaced the Deputy Executive Director position, which was first created by the previous administration and was also a politically appointed position.

Prior to that, administration and personnel were handled by a merit system employee called Administrative Manager. This is where lots of political abuse took place because the Administrative Manager was protected under civil service laws, yet they had pretty much gotten their jobs due to political patronage. And they in return handed out jobs through the patronage system. This position was not abolished under the previous administration, but many of the duties were transferred to the Deputy Executive Director. In my office, the Administrative Manager who had been there for years prior to me taking my job was notorious for playing politics with hiring. He was known to tell people that they would not be hired unless they were "the right religion," meaning a registered Democrat. I know people who actually changed their voter registration from Republican to Democrat so they would be considered for hiring. It was illegal as hell but they got away with it.

Each highway garage has a foreman who holds the title Superintendent II. This is a merit system position. There is also an assistant foreman who has the title of Superintendent I, also a civil service job.

O(regon)DOT  has 14 districts (though 2 is split into 2B and 2C, not quite sure what that means):

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Detailed Map (PDF) (http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/TD/TDATA/gis/docs/statemaps/DistrictMaintMap.pdf)

The headquarters are in Astoria, Clackamas (2B), Troutdale (2C), Salem, Corvallis, Springfield (Eugene), Roseburg, White City (Medford), The Dalles, Bend, Klamath Falls, Pendleton, LaGrande and Ontario.

They also have 5 regions, separate form the maintenance districts. I'm not sure if they really mean anything, but here they are:
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okay, I'll bite.  why 2B and 2C?  why no 2A?  and why no 6?

And what's with the hole?

Quote from: vtk on August 20, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
And what's with the hole?

that part actually made sense to me.  Crater Lake.  NPS maintenance.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 20, 2014, 08:32:49 PM
okay, I'll bite.  why 2B and 2C?  why no 2A?  and why no 6?

"Forget it, Jake, it's Oregontown."

ADOT here in Arizona has nine districts (Phoenix, Tucson, Yuma, Flagstaff, Prescott, Kingman, Holbrook, Globe, and Safford).

http://www.azdot.gov/docs/default-source/statewide-project-management/district_map.pdf?sfvrsn=2

NCDOT has 14 divisions, which are further broken down into districts within' them.

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SCDOT is broken into seven districts.

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Quote from: Bruce on August 20, 2014, 09:54:30 AM
WSDOT has eight regions (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Regions/), arranged on county lines:

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Not sure where you got that map from; there's nothing at the link labeled the "Baker" region.  From what I can tell, they divide the Northwest Region on the website to make it easier to find what you're looking for in the most populous area, but King, Snohomish, and "Baker" are still all one region.  (Also, the regions aren't strictly along county lines.  Pierce County is half Olympic and half Northwest -- the part of "King" that hangs down on your map.)

Quote from: briantroutman on August 19, 2014, 02:34:34 PMPennDOT has eleven, numbered beginning in the northwest corner and continuing roughly clockwise around the state to the southwest. There's no District 7 (which logically would be in the Berks-Lancaster area), and I've never found an explanation as to why. (This old Post-Gazette article (http://old.post-gazette.com/transportation/20030713gratacol0713p2.asp) basically says "Don't ask–there's no logical reason. It's PennDOT."

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PennDOT, or, rather, its predecessor agency, did used to have a District 7--Harrisburg was in it.  There is a map in an early 1940's edition of the Pennsylvania traffic manual that shows the full complement of 12 districts, but I don't know exactly when or why District 7 was abolished.  I suspect it fell by the wayside for efficiency reasons some time after World War II.

Some observations about district structure in some other jurisdictions:

*  Québec (initially Ministère de la Voirie, later Ministère des Transports) used to have a small number of districts.  Sometime in the 1970's they were abolished and replaced with the current system of 19 directions territoriales.

*  From 1920 to (approximately) the creation of the Highways Agency in 1991, Great Britain and its constituent nations were divided into geographical divisions by the Ministry of Transport for highway administration purposes.  (Northern Ireland was not included, though it is part of the UK, because it has its own traffic laws and system of highway administration.)  If memory serves, he original divisions were South West, South East, Eastern, Midlands, and Northern, and Wales and Scotland were their own divisions.  After a few years the Northern Division was split into two, North West and North East.  Later, greater London was broken out as its own Division (sometimes called the Metropolitan Division).  Then Scotland and Wales assumed responsibility for their own roads in 1956 and 1964 respectively.  When the Highways Agency was created as an executive agency and entrusted with responsibility for trunk roads in England (in a move widely seen at the time as a prelude to privatization, which so far has not occurred), the Division structure was ripped out and replaced with numbered Areas, which are auctioned off periodically to term maintenance contractors.

*  Kansas DOT currently has six districts, which comprise more or less equal chunks of the state.  However, most planning and design functions are handled out of Topeka, with the Northeast Kansas district being a sort of "tail wagging the dog" district because of the large projects it handles in the Kansas City metro area.

*  In California, where the district structure is very old (essentially in its present form sans District 12 by the 1920's), there are "superdistricts" in which planning and design functions for multiple districts are handled out of the offices for a neighboring more populous district.  For example, District 1 and 2 business is handled by the District 3 offices.

*  In France, there are two overlapping structures.  The country (or, at least, the metropolitan portion of it) is partitioned into Directions interdépartementales des routes (DIRs), which--as I understand it--generally handle fairly major projects.  It is also partitioned into a rather larger number of Directions regionales des équipements (DREs) which tend to focus on general upkeep.  (In French the term équipement has shades of meaning that the English cognate equipment does not.  For example, in a railway context, the French word would refer to the totality of the rolling stock--materiél roulant--and the permanent way--infrastructure.)

*  In Spain, the regional subdivisions (http://www.fomento.es/MFOM/LANG_CASTELLANO/INFORMACION_MFOM/ASISTENCIA_CIUDADANOS/CARRETERAS/DEMARCACIONES/) of the Ministerio de Fomento that handle highway business are demarcaciones.  They are structured so that no demarcacion straddles a boundary between two autonomous communities, but two of the latter have two demarcaciones each (Andalucía, Castilla y León).

The UK has four bodies that deal with trunk roads (Transport Scotland, Transport Wales, Highways Agency and Roads Service of Northern Ireland)

RSNI also deals with non-trunk roads in the province.

Transport Wales is split into two 'Trunk Road Agents' that deals with everything: South Wales and North & Mid Wales. Non-trunk roads are looked after by the 'Principle Areas'.

Transport Scotland is split into four 'Trunk Road Units' that deal with operating, but not building the system: NW, NE, SE and SW. Non-trunk roads are looked after by the local Councils.

The Highways Agency is split into thirteen 'Areas' (numbered 1-14, missing 11). Design, Build, Finance and Operate and Public-Private Partnership schemes get their own area number above 25. Non-trunk roads are looked after by the counties (administrative), except where there's no county council and the various district/city/borough councils look after it. Except London, where Transport for London looks after a layer of major roads* and the boroughs look after the rest (except traffic lights, which TfL deal with on all roads).

*basically almost every non-motorway trunk road that existed at its creation and several other major roads. Motorways in London are maintained by the Highways Agency (though TfL can maintain motorways).

On the "superdistrict" note, NYSDOT has them as well for the purpose of processing traffic counts (and possibly other functions).  Zone 1 is regions 1, 8, and 9; zone 2 is regions 2, 3, and 7; zone 3 is regions 4, 5, and 6; zone 4 is region 10; and zone 5 is region 11.  I believe there was even a short-lived proposal to make the zones official and disband the regions (it died when Utica complained).

Quote from: briantroutman on August 19, 2014, 02:34:34 PM
PennDOT has eleven, numbered beginning in the northwest corner and continuing roughly clockwise around the state to the southwest. There's no District 7 (which logically would be in the Berks-Lancaster area), and I've never found an explanation as to why. (This old Post-Gazette article (http://old.post-gazette.com/transportation/20030713gratacol0713p2.asp) basically says "Don't ask–there's no logical reason. It's PennDOT."

PA District 7 attempted a rebellion about 75 years ago and the Capitol wiped them off the map. It's forbidden to speak of it.

Connecticut has 4 districts: http://www.ct.gov/dot/cwp/view.asp?a=1410&Q=538856. Before the 1961 reclassification, there were 11 (I haven't found a map for that yet).

For any district N, its unsigned route numbers are in the range 400 + 100N to 499 + 100N -- except for the 400 series (to state parks and institutions) and the 900 series (miscellaneous tiny segments).

Quote from: kurumi on August 22, 2014, 12:53:58 PM

Quote from: briantroutman on August 19, 2014, 02:34:34 PM
PennDOT has eleven, numbered beginning in the northwest corner and continuing roughly clockwise around the state to the southwest. There's no District 7 (which logically would be in the Berks-Lancaster area), and I've never found an explanation as to why. (This old Post-Gazette article (http://old.post-gazette.com/transportation/20030713gratacol0713p2.asp) basically says "Don't ask–there's no logical reason. It's PennDOT."

PA District 7 attempted a rebellion about 75 years ago and the Capitol wiped them off the map. It's forbidden to speak of it.

Happy Schuster Games!

Quote from: hbelkins on August 20, 2014, 08:20:12 PM

In my office, the Administrative Manager who had been there for years prior to me taking my job was notorious for playing politics with hiring. He was known to tell people that they would not be hired unless they were "the right religion," meaning a registered Democrat. I know people who actually changed their voter registration from Republican to Democrat so they would be considered for hiring. It was illegal as hell but they got away with it.

In WV, the only job outside of HQ that is "will and pleasure" is the District Engineer (or Manager).  The County Superintendent used to be, but the last time the GOP got in (RINO Cecil Underwood in 96) they all sued and it went to the 5 to 0 democrat Supreme Court, which made a political decision.  The lone dissent gave an excellent discussion of why the job is a classic political job, as it mainly allocated limited resource to virtually unlimited wants.

In WV, blue collar hiring is 100% political.  You have to be a good democrat to get hired, period.  White collar and so-called pink collar jobs not so much, mainly because there  are generally few qualified applicants, especially outside the Huntington-Charleston metro area.  Many college degree required jobs, and many many many specific college degree required jobs outside the metro go unfilled for a long time.  Same can be said not just about Highways, but the whole state system.

Oddly, in WV, Highways is like a parallel state administration.  All other agencies, including the other parts of Transportation, get services from a unified system.  Things like legal, personnel, payroll, training, purchasing, property management,  all that "back office" stuff.  All done by a separate state agency, the Dept of Administration.  Except Highways, which does virtually everything for itself. 

Quote from: kurumi on August 22, 2014, 12:53:58 PM

Quote from: briantroutman on August 19, 2014, 02:34:34 PM
PennDOT has eleven, numbered beginning in the northwest corner and continuing roughly clockwise around the state to the southwest. There's no District 7 (which logically would be in the Berks-Lancaster area), and I've never found an explanation as to why. (This old Post-Gazette article (http://old.post-gazette.com/transportation/20030713gratacol0713p2.asp) basically says "Don't ask–there's no logical reason. It's PennDOT."

PA District 7 attempted a rebellion about 75 years ago and the Capitol wiped them off the map. It's forbidden to speak of it.

I get the allusion (I'm ashamed to admit), although ironically, District 7 was Harrisburg...site of the Capitol.

Quote from: WashuOtaku on August 21, 2014, 08:54:57 PM
SCDOT is broken into seven districts.

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Correct. And two-thirds of the CSRA counties (6 out of 9) are in the seventh district, including my home county of Barnwell.

Quote from: J N Winkler on August 22, 2014, 12:05:32 AM
*  In Spain, the regional subdivisions (http://www.fomento.es/MFOM/LANG_CASTELLANO/INFORMACION_MFOM/ASISTENCIA_CIUDADANOS/CARRETERAS/DEMARCACIONES/) of the Ministerio de Fomento that handle highway business are demarcaciones.  They are structured so that no demarcacion straddles a boundary between two autonomous communities, but two of the latter have two demarcaciones each (Andalucía, Castilla y León).

Notice how Basque Country and Navarre are absent from that list because all roads but AP-68 are maintained by those two communities. Also the two archipelagos are absent, but there are no 'A' motorways or 'N' roads there.

As for my region, Aragon, it is broken into seven zones. They are responsible of maintenance of all A-xxx and A-xxxx roads.

Despite the state being bigger in land area than many other states previously discussed, Nevada DOT only has 3 Districts, each headed by a District Engineer:

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District 1 - Southern Nevada (district offices in Las Vegas, major maintenance station in Tonopah)
District 2 - Northwestern Nevada (district offices in Sparks)
District 3 - Northeastern Nevada (district offices in Elko, major maintenance stations in Ely and Winnemucca)

Some department maps show Districts 1 & 3 as subdivided into smaller maintenance districts. (It is my understanding, although unconfirmed, that there were formerly 6 districts, with each of the major maintenance stations previously serving as district offices.)


NDOT is divided into 4 divisions: Administration, Engineering (includes design and project management), Operations (includes construction, maintenance and traffic operations), and Planning (includes most of the multi-modal transport functions).

It is my understanding that most of the major planning and engineering functions are centralized out of NDOT Headquarters in Carson City (although there are some staff at the district level), with administration and operations being the bulk of district staff. Due to the sheer volume and magnitude of projects in District 1 in the Las Vegas area, there is more planning and engineering staff in the district office–District 1 also has a Deputy Director to oversee coordination between that district office and NDOT Headquarters.

In the MassDPW days, the top person in each District was known as the District Highway Engineer, and each DHE was required to have a PE license.  One of the changes Jim Kerasiotes made as part of his MassHighway reorganization in the early 1990s was to change the title to District Highway Director, and to remove the PE requirement.

MDOT has six districts. I believe they mirror the current Congressional setup, which may explain why District 4 doesn't exist anymore.

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District 1 - Tupelo
District 2 - Batesville
District 3 - Yazoo City
District 5 - Newton
District 6 - Hattiesburg
District 7 - McComb

ConnDOT has four. Map (http://www.ct.gov/dot/LIB/dot/Documents/dpolicy/policymaps/ref/DOTDistricts.pdf#40763)

The borders follow municipal boundaries but do not follow county boundaries. Because CT doesn't officially have counties.

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These are the five regions for the Montana Department of Transportation's coverage area. Where I live is in Region V going as far north as Lincoln and Flathead County to Ravalli County in the south in Western Montana.

Is Yellowstone NP really not part of either Gallatin or Park Counties?  Is there a "paper county" occupying that territory?

Quote from: vtk on September 02, 2014, 05:15:55 PMIs Yellowstone NP really not part of either Gallatin or Park Counties?  Is there a "paper county" occupying that territory?

Wikipedia says not (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_County,_Montana):  "A small part of Yellowstone National Park is located in the extreme southern part of the county."

Quote from: Doctor Whom on August 19, 2014, 06:29:55 PM
Maryland has 7.  Baltimore City is not in any of them because the SHA does not maintain any roads in the city.

Then there's the Maryland Transportation Authority (toll roads and toll crossings), which is independent of SHA but does have a lot of infrastructure in the city and is organized into three regions.

MDTA Toll Facilites (http://www.mdta.maryland.gov/Toll_Facilities/facilities.html)

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