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Title: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2014, 10:06:20 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.857866,-71.399023,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZN_W-jIe4zyjYQCwiA7aIQ!2e0
I was amazed how Rhode Island sign the US 1 and RI 122 split in Pawtucket with not only a little green sign, but a very petite US and RI route shields as well.

Any other finds like this other than traditional mile markers?
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Brian556 on August 21, 2014, 10:35:05 AM
The ones on street name signs.
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: US71 on August 21, 2014, 10:46:05 AM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2638/3783104449_e51aef4d8a_z_d.jpg)
Baton Rouge

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3178/2886383876_594604aa2a_z_d.jpg)
Iowa

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3544/3787302540_a0c0c41034_z_d.jpg)
Dumas, AR

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8179/7897217094_54d9d38c91_z_d.jpg)
Kansas Highway Commission souvenir (roughly 4x4)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: hotdogPi on August 21, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
I have seen them on street signs (specifically, US 30 in Philadelphia and County 537 in Camden).
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Zeffy on August 21, 2014, 11:19:25 AM
Mercer County loves to use rather small county route markers for their street name signs.
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: US71 on August 21, 2014, 11:27:21 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 21, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
I have seen them on street signs (specifically, US 30 in Philadelphia and County 537 in Camden).
I know of one near Memphis
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2406/2259963888_e9c1a9ca57_z_d.jpg?zz=1)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: hbelkins on August 21, 2014, 12:03:02 PM
West Virginia uses some tiny markers for some of its county routes.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2009_Milford_PA_Day_5%2FImages%2F52.jpg&hash=d9fc516707d9fe5f0160014c7171a546588399a8)

To see how small, here is the marker next to a standard speed limit sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2009_Milford_PA_Day_5%2FImages%2F53.jpg&hash=238ae07eb5e940d3627077f74a56af24897b6929)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 21, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 21, 2014, 11:19:25 AM
Mercer County Hopewell Township loves to use rather small county route markers for their street name signs.

FTFY. (they do it randomly on the state intersections ones too: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.37228,-74.798183&spn=0.014746,0.066047&cbll=40.372273,-74.798173&layer=c&panoid=8-8vLXnHKsoiwjqg1T3LAQ&cbp=11,156.87,,2,-0.06&t=m&z=15 )
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: PHLBOS on August 21, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Those of us who were at last year's Portsmouth, NH meet (when the US 1 bridge was still closed for construction repairs) may remember seeing some orange contruction signs that had small US 1 shields on them.
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: spooky on August 21, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 21, 2014, 10:06:20 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.857866,-71.399023,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZN_W-jIe4zyjYQCwiA7aIQ!2e0
I was amazed how Rhode Island sign the US 1 and RI 122 split in Pawtucket with not only a little green sign, but a very petite US and RI route shields as well.

Any other finds like this other than traditional mile markers?

RI is terrible at consistently signing US 1 through Providence and Pawtucket.
Title: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: formulanone on August 21, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Found this tiny interstate sign in Peoria, Illinois.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5555/14773169661_239c8937ee_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ovsmDK)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Alex on August 21, 2014, 03:13:03 PM
Yes, it is part of a mile marker, but it is a separate mini shield nonetheless:

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/IA/IA19610301i1.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=IA19610301)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: mrsman on August 22, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 21, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Found this tiny interstate sign in Peoria, Illinois.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FToInt74signSmall-StoplightComparison.jpg&hash=6893c070c7a4f79c0308f9a0fc022c2c973e739f)

While a sign like this is an interesting find, it's terrible for a DOT to post something like this.  How would it be possible to navigate with a sign this small?
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: formulanone on August 25, 2014, 04:55:40 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 22, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
While a sign like this is an interesting find, it's terrible for a DOT to post something like this.  How would it be possible to navigate with a sign this small?

I don't see the iss...ummm, the sign...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FWMKumpfAveStoplightPeoria.jpg&hash=8a2a90ceab436816b2eef787636645ecf432d2ee)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: jakeroot on August 25, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
The roundabout directional signs on BC roads . . . I think they're around 6 or 8 inches tall.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfAlrdtv.jpg&hash=36e0998c08d7f6f18737e7852db3ad9ba355377b)
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Brandon on August 25, 2014, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 22, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 21, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
Found this tiny interstate sign in Peoria, Illinois.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2FToInt74signSmall-StoplightComparison.jpg&hash=6893c070c7a4f79c0308f9a0fc022c2c973e739f)

While a sign like this is an interesting find, it's terrible for a DOT to post something like this.  How would it be possible to navigate with a sign this small?

DOT?  More like the City of Peoria.

Here it is on GSV (next to, of all things, a FYA signal): https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.691163,-89.595617&spn=0.001651,0.002642&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.69121,-89.595654&panoid=rFmnHhB47-SJStIeCRyi8A&cbp=12,114.05,,1,-7.54

It has a friend as well at the same intersection (William Kumpf Blvd & John H Gwynn Ave):

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=40.691163,-89.595617&spn=0.001651,0.002642&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.69121,-89.595654&panoid=rFmnHhB47-SJStIeCRyi8A&cbp=12,296.06,,1,-7.08
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Zeffy on August 28, 2014, 10:39:12 AM
Found these really small shields/markers on the US 1 Freeway when you are about to enter Trenton:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.206357,-74.773422,3a,27.7y,51.76h,103.26t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srGkDtiRl1LRBUTUetBZ7fA!2e0

I don't think I would notice them if I were going anywhere near highway speed driving past those signs.
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: US71 on August 28, 2014, 12:07:40 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4097/4791924506_544fb72e69_z_d.jpg)
Emporia, KS

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3439/3904047122_f37b105f4f_z_d.jpg)
Wichita, KS

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2503/4200723816_88e8d65b2b_z_d.jpg)
Cheyenne, WY
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 28, 2014, 01:06:12 PM
New Jersey uses them on the cross-street-name signs hanging under traffic light arms.
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: odditude on August 28, 2014, 01:17:13 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 28, 2014, 01:06:12 PM
New Jersey uses them on the cross-street-name signs hanging under traffic light arms.
That usage is defined in the MUTCD (2D.43, D3-1a).
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: roadfro on August 29, 2014, 03:29:42 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 28, 2014, 12:07:40 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3439/3904047122_f37b105f4f_z_d.jpg)
Wichita, KS

I wouldn't count this one for purposes of this thread. While the route sign is separate from the mile marker sign, the purpose of this one seems to be to achieve the effect of an enhanced reference marker sign without fabricating an entirely new mile marker with all the information on one panel.

Quote
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2503/4200723816_88e8d65b2b_z_d.jpg)
Cheyenne, WY

These don't look tiny at all...
Title: Re: Tiny US and route shields other than mile markers
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 25, 2014, 12:09:27 AM
Well, time to bring this thread back.

If you look above the arrow on the right sign, there is a tiny ON 11 shield with "one block north" written next to it. I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to read that..  :hmmm:

The signs have since been replaced with better, more decent signs.

GSV: http://goo.gl/maps/BKpeh