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Title: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Chris on July 20, 2009, 03:10:14 PM
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I noticed Wyoming Route 230 in the Rand McNally atlas... It runs from Laramie to near Riverside, but it dips into Colorado as Colorado Routes 127 and 125 before it continues as WY 230 in Wyoming again. Does it happens a lot that the same road number is split up by passing through another state?

I will show it on this map:
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Title: Re: Wyoming 230
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2009, 03:38:03 PM
NY 17 (soon to be I 86) dips into Pennsylvania for a very short while, and the stretch is maintained by New York.  There is an exit in PA (for US-220), implying the presence of NY 17 shields on Pennsylvania soil. 

Arizona state route 95 is implied to go through Needles, California.  In Needles, it comes across the Colorado River and is signed northbound as "to AZ 95" with ADOT-provided signs.  The route southbound is then down to I-40 (and US-95!) and back across the border at Topock, and splitting off I 40 at exit 9.

The older alignment (splits off I-40 northbound at Topock, taking the old US 66 routing, then County Route 1) is intermittently signed as 95 as well, but I believe the road was returned to tribal control, leaving only "through Needles" as the possible routing.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2009, 03:39:39 PM
oh and for a US route ... US 395 goes California-Nevada-California.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Chris on July 20, 2009, 04:16:53 PM
US 54 goes Texas-New Mexico-Texas, but I guess state routes are more rare to have something like that.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: njroadhorse on July 20, 2009, 04:17:52 PM
I-24 goes Tennessee, Georgia, Tennessee
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Chris on July 20, 2009, 04:18:59 PM
I also believe I-86 dips into Pennsylvania for a short section near Waverly, but that's for like a few hundred feet.

edit:

I-684 also runs New York - Connecticut - New York for a minor distance.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: corco on July 20, 2009, 04:26:43 PM
This happens on several other occasions in Wyoming too

WYO 89 goes into Utah near Cokeville WY/Randolph UT, connected by Utah SR-16 and SR-30

US-212 enters Wyoming from South Dakota, passes into Montana, and then enters Wyoming again on the other side of the state

WYO 70 dips into Colorado but keeps its designation as Wyoming 70 even in Colorado

US 191 also leaves Wyoming, enters Montana, and then briefly re-enters Wyoming in Yellowstone

Notably, there are no WYO 89 or WYO 230 trailblazers in their Utah/Colorado segments
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: cu2010 on July 20, 2009, 04:28:02 PM
PA426 in northwestern Pennsylvania is also split into two sections by New York, with the NY section being signed as NY426.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Chris on July 20, 2009, 04:35:39 PM
I guess it's not so weird for Interstate and US Highways to have something like this, becuase they form a nationwide numbering system, and their main purpose is to connect states and cross state lines.

The list of State Highways to have this feature should be pretty short I think. Maybe mostly in states with a different shape than a rectangular form.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Bryant5493 on July 20, 2009, 05:05:55 PM
Georgia State Route 94 and Florida State Route 2.


Be well,

Bryant
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Chris on July 20, 2009, 05:32:44 PM
US 50 runs through Maryland twice, in the far west panhandle, then through Virginia + D.C. and then from Washington to Ocean City in Maryland again.  :clap:

edit:

US 340 runs from Virginia into West Virginia and enters Virginia briefly again before entering Maryland.

edit 2:

US 460 runs Virginia - West Virginia - Virginia in the Princeton, WV area.

Why do I know such things?  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: florida on July 20, 2009, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Bryant5493 on July 20, 2009, 05:05:55 PM
Georgia State Route 94 and Florida State Route 2.


Be well,

Bryant

Exactly what I was gonna say  :D

Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2009, 06:22:18 PM
in somewhat related, yet more absurd, numbering schemes ... Nevada 266 enters California and becomes CA-266 ... wait, no, it becomes CA-168, which then turns into CA-266 about 5 miles later, and then CA-266 returns to Nevada to become NV-264. 
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: ctsignguy on July 20, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Chris on July 20, 2009, 04:18:59 PM
I also believe I-86 dips into Pennsylvania for a short section near Waverly, but that's for like a few hundred feet.

edit:

I-684 also runs New York - Connecticut - New York for a minor distance.

Don't forget NY 120A that is on the same general neighborhood...it runs a short distance in Connecticut, but NYDOT is responsible for maintenance and upkeep
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 20, 2009, 10:35:30 PM
VA 259 starts in VA and goes into WV for a while before ending at US 50 in VA.  There are many others as well including VA 311.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Scott5114 on July 20, 2009, 10:51:10 PM
The famous OK-20/AR-43 concurrency wholly enters Oklahoma for a bit before returning to the state line.

I believe there is a situation where an NC route and a GA route do this.

There is a situation where a county road from Iowa enters Missouri, becomes Route V, then re-enters Iowa. Route V connects to no other Missouri state highway (and if I'm remembering right, possibly has no outlet to the rest of the MO highway system without going back into IA).
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: jdb1234 on July 20, 2009, 10:56:46 PM
GA Hwy 246 crosses the GA/NC state several times before staying in NC
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: dislocatedkid on July 20, 2009, 11:48:12 PM
What about MN-23 which enters Wisconsin for a couple tenths of a mile after crossing the St Louis River south of Duluth. Yet it is maintained Minnesota DOT.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 21, 2009, 12:44:46 AM
Quote from: Chris on July 20, 2009, 04:16:53 PM
US 54 goes Texas-New Mexico-Texas, but I guess state routes are more rare to have something like that.
US-62 and US-180 do the same thing.  In fact, all three go through El Paso (as did US-70, when it followed US-54's route).  54 and 62 end there, and 180 continues back into New Mexico, thereby alternating TX-NM-TX-NM.

US-2 also alternates two states twice: MI-WI-MI-WI.  If it were routed down 8 and up 141 in the Norway area, it would do so a third time.  Instead, US-141 by itself does it as well.

US-12 used to do this: MT-WY-MT-WY, between 1939 and 1956 or so.  Nowadays, it is US-212 that does this.  It is Beartooth Highway heading into Yellowstone.

US-52 goes WV-KY-WV-KY ... and then WV again! 
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Alex on July 24, 2009, 12:51:49 AM
Maryland 54 straddles the state line with Delaware, becomes Delaware 54, then exits as Maryland 54
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: leifvanderwall on October 07, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
SC-GA-FL 121 could make a good case ,but here's where it gets interesting: when GA 23 muliplexes w/ 121 from Folkston to the Fl/Ga line. One would ask why is GA 23 with 121 when it could've ended at US 1/23 north of Folkston? I think FL 121 was supposed to be FL 23 , but it was too close to US 23. So the Peach State decided to multiplex GA 23/121 to tell their Sunshine State counterparts "We don't follow your route designation scheme." There is actually a CR 23 A branch off of FL 121 at the I-10 jct. to prove FL 121 was supposed to be SR 23, eventhough FL did put a new SR 23 route in Duval-Clay Counties from FL 134 to FL 21. 23/121 is proof that there is animosity between Georgia & Florida and maybe that's why they play their annual college football game in Jacksonville. I also found this interesting: GA 23 runs exactly parallel to GA 121 from Folkston and muliplexes with it again from Reidsville to Metter and for the last time in Millen. Oh, and if that weren't enough I think it's the first time a state road with the same number multiplexes with its exact twin US Hwy. at Folkston with GA 23 & US 23.

Some more severe geekiness on my part: Territorial Rd. in Hillsdale County , just south of Waldron, goes right on the Michigan-Ohio State Line ; half of the road had Ohio street signs and the other half had Michigan signs. Then Territorial Rd. turns into Morenci Rd in Lenawee County and Morenci in turn is converted to Ohio 120 when it fully crosses the state line for good. By the way, Indiana 120 is actually converted into Hillsdale Co's Territorial Rd. ; so you have one route that is shared by three different states, but it is not a state designated hwy. in Michigan.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: hbelkins on October 08, 2009, 10:16:34 AM
KY 87 disappears into Tennessee for a short distance and re-emerges.

WV 46 disappears into Maryland for a short distance and re-emerges, as well.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: florida on October 08, 2009, 12:24:30 PM
Quote from: leifvanderwall on October 07, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I think FL 121 was supposed to be FL 23

It was originally SR 23. SR 121 used to be three separately numbered roads, but that's for another thread.  ;-)
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on October 08, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
I see its apparent we missed NJ 440, which wouldn't be true if they didn't decommission NJ 169, but now NJ 440 ends at the border in both directions with County Route 501
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: leifvanderwall on October 08, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
But you must agree Florida, there is some animosity between the Sunshine State and Georgia. It seems the Peach State was making fun of Florida putting 23/121 together from Folkston. Why did Florida change SR 23? Because of US 23?
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: texaskdog on August 11, 2011, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: dislocatedkid on July 20, 2009, 11:48:12 PM
What about MN-23 which enters Wisconsin for a couple tenths of a mile after crossing the St Louis River south of Duluth. Yet it is maintained Minnesota DOT.

Perfect example! 
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: 1995hoo on August 11, 2011, 04:24:46 PM
VA-311 crosses into West Virginia and becomes WV-311; it then crosses back into Virginia, maintaining the same number again, and later it crosses into West Virginia, again as WV-311, before ending at I-64 out near White Sulphur Springs (the town where the Greenbrier is located). But I have no idea whether there are mileposts on the road nor whether they're sequential. Each state maintains its own portion.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: formulanone on August 11, 2011, 08:07:25 PM
Georgia State Road 94, by Florida SR 2 (which is also a two-parter).
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: hbelkins on August 12, 2011, 12:29:17 AM
Also in West Virginia: WV 46.

Also in Virginia: VA 102
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: ftballfan on August 12, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 11, 2011, 08:07:25 PM
Georgia State Road 94, by Florida SR 2 (which is also a two-parter).
Florida SR 2 is actually a three-parter, with at least one end of each segment being at the Georgia state line.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: NE2 on August 12, 2011, 09:14:29 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on August 12, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
Florida SR 2 is actually a three-parter, with at least one end of each segment being at the Georgia state line.
No it's not; the east part is CR 2.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: formulanone on August 12, 2011, 10:23:57 PM
...close enough, since most signed Florida county routes were just state routes that were decom'd for mileage sake.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: roadfro on August 13, 2011, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2009, 06:22:18 PM
in somewhat related, yet more absurd, numbering schemes ... Nevada 266 enters California and becomes CA-266 ... wait, no, it becomes CA-168, which then turns into CA-266 about 5 miles later, and then CA-266 returns to Nevada to become NV-264. 

Actually, NV 266 goes west into California, immediately becomes CA 266, then the road curves north and reenters Nevada as NV 264. 168 ends at 266 in Fish Lake Valley.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: Sykotyk on August 14, 2011, 12:27:37 AM
It's funny, I drove the eastern leg of WY-230 and never noticed that on my way down toward Rabbit Ears Pass.
Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: newyorker478 on September 24, 2011, 05:22:03 PM
Quote from: ctsignguy on July 20, 2009, 07:44:18 PM
Quote from: Chris on July 20, 2009, 04:18:59 PM
I also believe I-86 dips into Pennsylvania for a short section near Waverly, but that's for like a few hundred feet.

edit:

I-684 also runs New York - Connecticut - New York for a minor distance.

Don't forget NY 120A that is on the same general neighborhood...it runs a short distance in Connecticut, but NYDOT is responsible for maintenance and upkeep

NY 120a straddles the CT border for 75% of its length...however it only dips in a few times, and is entirely NYSDOT maintaned and signed, save an accidental CT 120A shield at the Merrit Parkway exit.

Title: Re: Wyoming 230 (and other routes split by a neighboring state)
Post by: TheStranger on September 24, 2011, 06:43:08 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 13, 2011, 12:40:26 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 20, 2009, 06:22:18 PM
in somewhat related, yet more absurd, numbering schemes ... Nevada 266 enters California and becomes CA-266 ... wait, no, it becomes CA-168, which then turns into CA-266 about 5 miles later, and then CA-266 returns to Nevada to become NV-264. 

Actually, NV 266 goes west into California, immediately becomes CA 266, then the road curves north and reenters Nevada as NV 264. 168 ends at 266 in Fish Lake Valley.

IIRC, 168 used to extend on one of the legs of 266 to the Nevada state line, until some time in the 1980s.