I was driving in DC/Maryland yesterday coming back from Verizon Center via I-295 and when I passed near the sign with the extreme "dancing arrow" (see bottom of post), I found myself thinking of Maryland's peculiar usage of horizontal exit arrows on BGSs and exit signs. Off the top of my head I can't think of another state where I've seen the usage nearly as often as I have in Maryland. Strikes me as a potentially useful style if a ramp is a particularly sharp curve directly off the mainline (prime example that comes to mind is some of the exits from I-295 in New Jersey in the area south of I-76), but it can also have the effect of exaggerating and making the ramp appear to be a sharper curve than it is.
Can anyone think of anywhere else where this sort of arrow is common? Not a big deal, I'm just curious.
See Street View here showing an example: http://goo.gl/maps/3E0A1
I won't paste the image because it might draw more interest than the other query, but AARoads has a photo of the extreme "dancing arrow" that prompted me to think about it: https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/maryland295/i-295_sb_exit_001b_01.jpg
I want to say I've seen this on OH 15 at the Lima St exit in Findlay. Makes sense, as that interchange is basically a pair of RIROs with an overpass to the side.
I can think of similar places in Ohio where this would be warranted, but I can't say I've seen horizontal exit direction arrows there.
I don't think the previous BGS had a horizontal arrow, but the current BGS for exit 81 on the Garden State Parkway in Toms River, NJ has one:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.957431,-74.205842&spn=0.000004,0.002615&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.957431,-74.206353&panoid=BK8sRd4UIH6lYWY9YIEuJw&cbp=12,195.5,,0,-3.25 (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.957431,-74.205842&spn=0.000004,0.002615&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.957431,-74.206353&panoid=BK8sRd4UIH6lYWY9YIEuJw&cbp=12,195.5,,0,-3.25)
It's a pretty tight turn, similar to the exits on 295 in Gloucester County, mentioned above.
Pretty sure there are some in Cincinnati along I-75's split alignment.
https://flic.kr/p/egnsKg Here is one on I-95 SB in Ewing, NJ at Exit 1 for NJ 29.
I don't ever remember seeing an example of this in Louisiana, except for Airline Hwy at Scenic Hwy in Baton Rouge where the BUS sections of US 61 and US 190 begin. The ramps are incredibly tight and the arrow makes sense there. I had to look in old AARoads pics to find an example since Streetview has all the recent Clearview and new arrows.
https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/louisiana060/us-061_sb_190_nb_at_us-061_nb_01.jpg
Quote from: 1995hooSee Street View here showing an example: http://goo.gl/maps/3E0A1
Don't know if anyone saw it, but in the OP's GSV link, while the exit gore sign and the BGS above have horizontal arrows, the "H" hospital service sign uses an angled arrow underneath it.
I want to say I've seen exit gore signs and/or shields on posts with horizontal arrows somewhere here or there (can't remember), in some cases the intersection/interchange warranted it, but in some others, the angled kind would have been better.
I have seen them when the exit is a RIRO, like in the middle of the Dakotas, Wyoming, or Montana. It makes sense there.
Exit 21, MA 128 north.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmaps.googleapis.com%2Fmaps%2Fapi%2Fstreetview%3Fsize%3D400x400%26amp%3Blocation%3D42.570327%2C-70.911432%26amp%3Bfov%3D20%26amp%3Bheading%3D77%26amp%3Bpitch%3D6&hash=d91420e936bb96148d6766e24018e55548ad7998)
This ramp from I-695 to the Baltimore Washington Parkway has one http://goo.gl/maps/5i7h0
It doesn't show it (outdated), but there's a 15 mph advisory speed for the ramp. Do you think this has something to do with whether horizontal arrows are used?
How about 90 degree arrows?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9044237,-83.369895,3a,75y,68.45h,83.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sD4VfmqNly-nnfN0fvqb6wQ!2e0
In NJ: http://goo.gl/maps/xoeni
This one actually replaced a 180 degree upside down "U" arrow: http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n139.jpg
This one on NJ-17 remains: http://goo.gl/maps/iiLzm
Can't forget the famous Alps Rd. sign either: http://goo.gl/maps/aLZs8
All of these ramps have low posted advisory speeds.
NY 198 in Buffalo (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9342275,-78.8661359,3a,68y,266.35h,85.68t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scNczlN1qZ6QsZLRTeCgGfw!2e0). Button copy went away shortly after this was taken, but the horizontal arrow still exists.
Then there's everybody's favorite RIRO on NY 17, Exit 111 in Sullivan County (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6066938,-74.5650662,3a,75y,147.16h,82.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sY_OjMuruCbc39MY2NdMSDA!2e0). It will be closed as part of the I-86 conversion with all traffic being directed to Exit 110 not even a mile upstream, but there's quite a bit of opposition from the gas station at the "exit".
Until recently, I-80 west in Auburn, Calif., had one (Street View image):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNCNUmOV.png&hash=4a5160da7fefe7f18e3326d9abf3c1a895216615)
The sign was replaced when CA 49 was realigned, and the new one has a 270-degree curving arrow instead. (Sorry, no pic.)
Not horizontal, but unusual nonetheless. TX 78 at President George Bush Turnpike, Garland, TX: http://goo.gl/maps/fVps5
And a couple that most would probably guess exist just based on every other goofy thing it does, on the Arroyo Seco Parkway (CA 110), the overhead signs for the southbound exits for York Blvd and Avenue 60 use horizontal arrows. http://goo.gl/maps/waIol and http://goo.gl/maps/X6fid
Quote from: NJRoadfan on September 22, 2014, 06:05:53 PM
In NJ: http://goo.gl/maps/xoeni
That has changed considering that it once at an upside down u arrow.
Interesting as this new one seems more effective to motorists than the previous one.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 22, 2014, 11:00:15 AM
https://flic.kr/p/egnsKg Here is one on I-95 SB in Ewing, NJ at Exit 1 for NJ 29.
Ugh, that interchange. If you're trying to head towards Trenton, good luck on a busy day. Three yields
in a row! Who thought that was a good idea? Aren't they supposed to convert this to a roundabout so we don't have to play the yield-frenzy game?
On that note though, as soon as the roadway splits from I-95, it is a decent sharp turn, so I can see the use of a horizontal arrow here instead of a diagonal-right one.
I never got off there as I always was straight through on I-95 or NJ 29, but seen the interchange from Google images. Yeah it is a strange one at that, I must agree.
Quote from: countysigns on September 22, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
How about 90 degree arrows?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9044237,-83.369895,3a,75y,68.45h,83.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sD4VfmqNly-nnfN0fvqb6wQ!2e0
I actually think a 90° arrow is a better way to represent this, unless it's a RIRO situation.
Quote from: hbelkins on September 22, 2014, 10:45:29 AM
Pretty sure there are some in Cincinnati along I-75's split alignment.
If one ever existed, it was most likely on the southbound side at Exit 12 (the Reading/Lockland exit). The exit has a standard up/right arrow and the advisory sign next to it has a curved 90 degree arrow with a 15 mph speed limit posted.
In fact, I got a photo of that set of signs last year while preparing for the Cincinnati meet.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnX9LWjZ.jpg&hash=0eacc5e39ecef95e4eee53ccc7e416fe91c6f5d3)
That's fairly new signage. Not sure I've been through there since the button copy was replaced.
There's one that I know of on ON 400 (exit 58). Has an exit speed of 20 km/h.
GSV: http://goo.gl/maps/JB1XW
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.604907,-122.3390308,3a,56.4y,1.85h,88.53t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sJYcwdl_yOndOPT7iHJjpPg!2e0
SR-99 in Seattle.
Haven't seen as many horizontal arrows ever as I did in Maryland. There's a shitload on US-50 east of DC.
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Two I know of in CT.... Exits 15 and 16, both on Route 9 in Middletown. And there's a reason why horizontal arrows are used... these two exits are at-grade intersections.
Here's a street view of Exit 15 NB. The BGS is mounted on the reverse side of the SB overhead assembly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5624463,-72.6475438,3a,75y,312.62h,88.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh3ExkmpG-oZQnKdZvovBRQ!2e0
And NB for Exit 16:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5671743,-72.6501305,3a,75y,340.58h,76.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sAGXNhL80NqGI1eBLkKK9Qg!2e0
Both gore exit signs have usual "angled" arrows... to the left for the NB exits and to the right for the SB exits. The SB exits have a small chanelized island so the angled gore signs are correct, but NB, they should be horizontal left arrows on the gore signs.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9932348,-72.1285318,3a,75y,65.69h,85.62t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYVuhVcWjIKPz0yuvXpLI9w!2e0
Not a BGS, but I've seen a few of these in Vermont.
Quote from: Cjzani on October 05, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.9932348,-72.1285318,3a,75y,65.69h,85.62t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYVuhVcWjIKPz0yuvXpLI9w!2e0
Not a BGS, but I've seen a few of these in Vermont.
The US shield on the right looks awful. The arrow is interesting though. Don't think I've seen that before.