Couldn't find a thread like this anywhere, so I decided to make one. I was just cruising on roads on GM Street View, when I noticed this. http://prntscr.com/4pr2qb
This is on FL SR 50 in Clermont, Florida. As you can see, they must've done a restriping job, and the old striping is still visible, as I circled.
Anybody else want to share some striping fails or mistakes they've seen/found?
This is unfortunately the norm in NYSDOT Region 5. When a road gets resurfaced, they'll often put full-size temporary markings down immediately, followed by "permanent" markings a month or so later. Sometimes, the new markings are over the old ones. On more than one occasion in the past few years, the new markings were placed exactly halfway between the temporary ones. Occasionally, they'll leave them, but more often than not, the old ones get ground off. NY 952Q/Walden Ave was redone last year and the temp markings were scraped off. After the bad winter, the ground areas were starting to chip away, forcing them to patch a highway that was resurfaced less than a year prior. This is the case everywhere they got rid of the old markings.
I haven't been on NY 33 since the new markings went down, so I can't say what happened there, but knowing Region 5, I wouldn't be shocked if they pulled another "stupid".
Old Lincoln Highway in Trenton (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2134846,-74.7624411,3a,40.1y,172.74h,80.69t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s83rmZsZ7cG5aJQEn9lAZNg!2e0) - On the right side of the center line, there's a spot where the lines don't meet up at all.
EDIT:
US 206 NB (N Broad St) in Trenton (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2190859,-74.7641511,3a,38y,354.59h,73.16t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sidkuwIPH2IpvcBwFhcJ4Rg!2e0) - Unusually thick lane striping with very tight spacing. Further up ahead, it looks like there's markings for the center lane up ahead, but they don't connect to the actual lane at the signal of E State St. On the same stretch of road past the signal, the tight and thick lane striping continues with a lack of shoulder markings. IIRC, the other side of US 206 is more normal than the north side. Why that may be - I have no clue.
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This was on Dixon Ln in Flower Mound, TX a few years ago. The contractor did it.
Also, in the 1980's, in Marion County, TN, the county painted a broken white stripe down the center of a two-lane, two way rural road.
I have a smaller wobble in front of my house. Look at it every trip to the mailbox.
ARRRGGGGGHHHHHH !!!!!
Quote from: Brian556 on September 24, 2014, 12:52:05 AM
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This was on Dixon Ln in Flower Mound, TX a few years ago. The contractor did it.
Also, in the 1980's, in Marion County, TN, the county painted a broken white stripe down the center of a two-lane, two way rural road.
Since that appears to be a construction area, the yellow shoulder stripe may be on purpose.
I've seen some minor striping mistakes here in Huntsville since they restriped a lot of the roads around here lately. I'll post about them later once I can remember all of them.
I need to dig out the photos I took circa 2000 of a stripe being painted over some old roadkill on US 421 in Frankfort. I'd seen pictures on the Internet, but when I saw it in person, I did a double-take and braved afternoon rush-hour traffic to go out and get pictures.
Contractor-applied white center line ... I-90 over Snoqualmie Pass, Washington. Has since been fixed.
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I think I have one of the worst re-painting jobs you will ever see. The City of Anniston re-painted the lines along Coleman Road, in poor fashion. Here are some of my photos, to see the rest go to: http://geekalabama.com/2013/06/05/roadscapes-wednesday-new-road-paint-along-coleman-road/ (http://geekalabama.com/2013/06/05/roadscapes-wednesday-new-road-paint-along-coleman-road/)
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Oof, that striping is hideous :ded:
I don't think I've ever in my life seen anything that sloppy, Lordy Jesus. :-o
Quote from: barcncpt44 on October 23, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
I think I have one of the worst re-painting jobs you will ever see. The City of Anniston re-painted the lines along Coleman Road, in poor fashion...
Looks like a typical Erie County, NY paint job, except the dashes are the proper length in your pics
Here's one I pass almost every day here in Huntsville:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.683125,-86.5534&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.683125,-86.5534&panoid=2avpyVyqv4lWi8YdJiUcQQ&cbp=12,167.69,,0,33.8
Welcome to Erie County, NY (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9217536,-78.672143,3a,50.9y,1.81h,77.22t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_V9SwXtlWlQD1dSaJPVAQA!2e0?hl=en). Stuff like this is the norm on county-maintained highways (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8806519,-78.6785583,3a,46.4y,290.99h,74.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sduVnLn3ymW9BcQJ-XPEIWQ!2e0?hl=en). And they love extra-long dashed lines (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9057575,-78.7282208,3a,75y,17.96h,69.42t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swus9fZPE_b1XgpczaXLHBA!2e0?hl=en).
I-94 in Wisconsin has 2 yellow and 2 white lines for both Eastbound and Westbound directions.
http://goo.gl/maps/oyTTo The double line stretch for about 3 miles from MM 290 to 282.
Quote from: Jim920 on October 29, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
I-94 in Wisconsin has 2 yellow and 2 white lines for both Eastbound and Westbound directions.
http://goo.gl/maps/oyTTo The double line stretch for about 3 miles from MM 290 to 282.
I've seen this in Michigan too (or maybe it was IN? or both?)
One of the white lines on the Michigan route is painted over the sawed-in rumble strips, am I correct?
That's actually a safety feature they call "rumble stripes;" the reflective paint on the vertical walls of the sawed-in cuts is supposed to be more visible at night.
I think some of this can be termed "Striping Nitpicking".
Often times, when lines are repainted and they need to revise the position of the line, they won't go thru the effort of sandblasting the old line away. They'll just paint the new line where it's needed, and eventually the old line will wear away. I could site numerous county roads near me where they've reduced the lane width from 12' to 11', but are leaving the old line behind to fade out.
If it's a serious concern, such as trying to figure out which lines truly mark a travel lane, then yes they should take the time to remove the line. But if it's clear the new line is a few inches inside of a fading old line, then it's not so much a fail as it is they are just redefining the travel lane.
Quote from: barcncpt44 on October 23, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
I think I have one of the worst re-painting jobs you will ever see. The City of Anniston re-painted the lines along Coleman Road, in poor fashion. Here are some of my photos, to see the rest go to: http://geekalabama.com/2013/06/05/roadscapes-wednesday-new-road-paint-along-coleman-road/ (http://geekalabama.com/2013/06/05/roadscapes-wednesday-new-road-paint-along-coleman-road/)
Drinking and striping. Don't do it.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 30, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
If it's a serious concern, such as trying to figure out which lines truly mark a travel lane, then yes they should take the time to remove the line.
otherwise, you end up with the San Bernardino Freeway, which has something like four distinct sets of lane stripes, and they are indistinguishable when driving into the sun.
Quote from: kkt on October 30, 2014, 03:56:52 PM
Quote from: barcncpt44 on October 23, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
I think I have one of the worst re-painting jobs you will ever see. The City of Anniston re-painted the lines along Coleman Road, in poor fashion. Here are some of my photos, to see the rest go to: http://geekalabama.com/2013/06/05/roadscapes-wednesday-new-road-paint-along-coleman-road/ (http://geekalabama.com/2013/06/05/roadscapes-wednesday-new-road-paint-along-coleman-road/)
Drinking and striping. Don't do it.
See also this:
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It happens in the UK as well. We had to bring a contractor back after they painted wobbly centre lines on a major road to fix it at their own expense.
The driver of the vehicle that did the temporary striping on I-405 SB in Bellevue, WA, probably got a DUI.
Definitely not the worst of the worst, but the restriping on this section of US 40 (parallel to I-70) near Golden, Colorado certainly isn't the best of the best :)
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/127322363@N08/15308386973/
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Anyone see a coyote chasing a roadrunner through here? It looks like the paint truck pulled off the road, but forgot to turn off the paint. They tried to cover it with black paint, but it didn't work very well. I think it will wear off, as well. ADOT needs to sandblast off the old paint. There is a nasty dropoff past the shoulder here. (AZ 89 north of Wilhoit)
From http://www.arizonaroads.com/index.html
This could be considered a striping fail and in the pic, the right lane turns into a right-turn only lane that doesn't get much traffic. The left lane has the option of left-turn or going straight. Traffic in the left-turn-only lane backs all the way up the hill blocking the left lane.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Middletown,+CT/@41.5619936,-72.6516345,88m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e64a65bdf7146f:0x6c1c794f3958b866
In my opinion, since the left-turn-only lane has a lot of traffic, it should be restriped as the left lane transitions into the left-turn-only lane and the right lane should have the option of going straight and turning right. The current lane designation has a lot of people wishing to go straight crossing over into the right lane only to cross back over into the straight lane.
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0227011,-73.0835266,3a,75y,14.41h,82.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKlrVm6cZUlQc25J3vBNBAw!2e0
QC 133 (what I-89 turns into after it reaches the US-Canada border), right near the border. Not too bad, but another restriping job where they put the new broken stripes in the gaps between the old broken stripes.
Maybe this belongs in a "Bad traffic control in shopping centers" thread, but the Ocean County Mall has a thing for separating lanes of traffic in the same direction with yellow solid or dashed stripes, as in this example:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.982102,-74.178883&spn=0.000016,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.981999,-74.180999&panoid=DPkz0zmakaUr77HIeTsd0w&cbp=12,123.77,,0,1.41 (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.982102,-74.178883&spn=0.000016,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.981999,-74.180999&panoid=DPkz0zmakaUr77HIeTsd0w&cbp=12,123.77,,0,1.41)
A few of the entrances/exits feature the solid yellow, and the loop road in the parking lot has some dashed yellow striping separating lanes.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on December 20, 2014, 09:43:16 PM
Maybe this belongs in a "Bad traffic control in shopping centers" thread, but the Ocean County Mall has a thing for separating lanes of traffic in the same direction with yellow solid or dashed stripes, as in this example:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.982102,-74.178883&spn=0.000016,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.981999,-74.180999&panoid=DPkz0zmakaUr77HIeTsd0w&cbp=12,123.77,,0,1.41 (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.982102,-74.178883&spn=0.000016,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.981999,-74.180999&panoid=DPkz0zmakaUr77HIeTsd0w&cbp=12,123.77,,0,1.41)
A few of the entrances/exits feature the solid yellow, and the loop road in the parking lot has some dashed yellow striping separating lanes.
I've seen traffic control practices in private parking lots so bad that they are not worthy of mention. Anything goes when you're not required to follow standards.
I suppose that means that they can't enforce speed limits and stop signs and the like. They are really there only for knowing who has the right of way in the event of a traffic collision. Whoever violated the stop bar should have stopped to prevent an accident, but they made no moving violation if there is no red stop sign.
I see wacky striping ideas all the time on anything that is not an actual road.
An example is on this parking-lot-road at Walnut Square Mall here in Dalton:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7585079,-84.9310357,3a,75y,55.84h,83.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s97h8Iv9JFID5RYSthvF1_w!2e0
They do use yellow striping to separate traffic going in the opposite direction but they also use it to separate traffic going in the same direction :crazy: :confused:
EDIT: I actually just noticed this looking at the street view (I never see it nowadays, probably because its completely faded now I guess), that there apparently used to be white striping where the dashed yellow striping dividing travel in the same direction is now. The fact that they changed the color during a restriping makes it all the wackier!! :confused:
Not sure what happened here:
http://goo.gl/maps/HRtPr
Looks pretty bad.
Common in NY, especially in the North Country.
R7, during yearly restriping projects, does one side at a time, often months apart; this can often yield messy setups, especially since the old stripes aren't removed. Clearly the truck took the corner at a slightly different angle every single time the road was restriped...
Here in Huntsville, the city messed up the striping on Andrew Jackson Way north of Pratt Avenue. I'll see if I can get some pictures soon.
Quote from: cu2010 on January 15, 2015, 02:08:35 AM
Common in NY, especially in the North Country.
R7, during yearly restriping projects, does one side at a time, often months apart; this can often yield messy setups, especially since the old stripes aren't removed. Clearly the truck took the corner at a slightly different angle every single time the road was restriped...
Erie County does this. They'll also paint over potholes. In very rare circumstances, they'll fix the pothole at some point, but the lines are never repainted over the filled-in spot.
I-5 near the border.
http://goo.gl/maps/2yxg5
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 28, 2015, 11:44:19 PM
I-5 near the border.
http://goo.gl/maps/2yxg5
Basically all of Whatcom County is this bad. I've been trying to figure out for years why the striping is so bad through here, so far I haven't been able to figure it out.
I wouldn't call this a mistake, since it looks intentional, and maybe it's really more appropriate for this old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4439.msg97294#msg97294
But I've been wanting to share this--thing--that really annoys me:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.616365,-88.99121&spn=0.002618,0.004935&t=k&z=18
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.616654,-88.990948&spn=0.002601,0.004935&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.616723,-88.990904&panoid=v7Td2lzgept-HCBdE_eoXA&cbp=12,208.07,,0,4.3
What's wrong with it? Well, what's right with it? Not only is it an unstriped auxiliary lane on a freeway, but since the exit it approaches has two lanes, it leaves open two possible interpretations: (1) the auxiliary lane remains a single lane all the way to the theoretical gore, at which point it splits into two lanes, or (2) the middle lane is an option lane. I assume (1) is the correct interpretation, since, for all practical purposes, an option lane needs to be indicated by striping; however (2) would make more sense from a design perspective. The problem with this is that, if two drivers have different interpretations, a driver in the auxiliary lane assuming (1) could take the left of the two lanes for I-24 while a driver in the center lane assuming (2) could treat it as an option lane and crash with the driver coming from the auxiliary lane.
Seriously, what was the thought process behind the decision to leave the lane unstriped here? And I'm convinced that it was, actually, a decision since (a) the lane is striped for some distance after the on-ramp joins the mainline, and (b) having seen the same thing on the satellite image, in Street View, and IRL leads me to believe that it's been that way for a rather long time.
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj
Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done. :hmmm:
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj
Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done. :hmmm:
That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.
Quote from: cl94 on April 03, 2015, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj
Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done. :hmmm:
That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.
At worst, it's simply a way to narrow down a lane to widen the shoulder and allow the older line to eventually fade away. Or, the GSV vehicle simply made it's way down the road after the new line was stripped, but before the old line was sandblasted away. Hardly a stripping fail imo, but rather an intentional decision.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 04, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 03, 2015, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj
Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done. :hmmm:
That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.
At worst, it's simply a way to narrow down a lane to widen the shoulder and allow the older line to eventually fade away. Or, the GSV vehicle simply made it's way down the road after the new line was stripped, but before the old line was sandblasted away. Hardly a stripping fail imo, but rather an intentional decision.
Any chance the double white is indicating no crossing? As in, "don't use this area of the road for anything ever"?
Quote from: jakeroot on April 04, 2015, 03:40:59 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 04, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 03, 2015, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj
Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done. :hmmm:
That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.
At worst, it's simply a way to narrow down a lane to widen the shoulder and allow the older line to eventually fade away. Or, the GSV vehicle simply made it's way down the road after the new line was stripped, but before the old line was sandblasted away. Hardly a stripping fail imo, but rather an intentional decision.
Any chance the double white is indicating no crossing? As in, "don't use this area of the road for anything ever"?
Can't vouch for Canada, but not in the MUTCD. Double-white is supposed to be used between lanes where crossing is illegal, not the shoulder. By design, there's no reason for that shoulder to be restricted.
By scrolling up and down the road a bit, much of the shoulder outside where this picture was taken is gravel. The second line appears for only a short area. Additionally, the spacing between the lines is much wider than normal for a double line marking. And at one point, there's a turn lane where the older lane was more intentionally removed.
My opinion stands: the older line made the lane too wide, and they simply restriped the roadway to narrow the lane down and make the shoulder a bit wider. Every other reasoning is simply reading into this wayyyyyyy too much.
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V
I doubt this was intentional.
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V
I doubt this was intentional.
California does that for upcoming exits. Something to do with there being heavy fog and if you can barely see, you can at least see the lines / that pattern in them.
Quote from: colinstu on June 22, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V
I doubt this was intentional.
California does that for upcoming exits. Something to do with there being heavy fog and if you can barely see, you can at least see the lines / that pattern in them.
Ok, thanks. Wasn't sure. Never seen that before.
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I done did a good job, yes I done did!
Quote from: Rothman on June 22, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I done did a good job, yes I done did!
More like "Damn, I knew I should have stayed away from the Tequila the night before that job".
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 22, 2015, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 22, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I done did a good job, yes I done did!
More like "Damn, I knew I should have stayed away from the Tequila the night before that job".
"You just don't appreciate my art! It's way ahead of it's time!"
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Looks like an adhesive striping tape that wasn't properly applied, or maybe the adhesive wasn't sufficiently sticky and has come loose over time.
Quote from: Rothman on June 22, 2015, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 22, 2015, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 22, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I done did a good job, yes I done did!
More like "Damn, I knew I should have stayed away from the Tequila the night before that job".
"You just don't appreciate my art! It's way ahead of it's time!"
You dun goofed!
Isn't really a mistake per se, but I don't know what to call this. Is it option or exit lane?
https://goo.gl/maps/WadGf8zQnak
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 30, 2015, 10:16:38 PM
Isn't really a mistake per se, but I don't know what to call this. Is it option or exit lane?
https://goo.gl/maps/WadGf8zQnak
Yes.
Off-topic, but just out of wild curiosity, are you required to learn English and French in Canada? Or just one of the two depending on where you are?
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 30, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 30, 2015, 10:16:38 PM
Isn't really a mistake per se, but I don't know what to call this. Is it option or exit lane?
https://goo.gl/maps/WadGf8zQnak
Yes.
Off-topic, but just out of wild curiosity, are you required to learn English and French in Canada? Or just one of the two depending on where you are?
Sort of? It's part of the curriculum in elementary school to be taught basic French (I had it in 4th-8th grade). In Ontario (where I did my schooling), it's also required for students to take one French course in high school. But no, you don't have to speak both languages fluently to graduate or anything. It helps though to be bilingual, especially for jobs. Many government jobs require both languages, though that depends too on what and where you're working.
Quebec road signs are pretty easy to understand for English speakers; the MTQ does a good job of making signs multilingual. The black on yellow part is 'exit only', though of course those words aren't there (it would be 'sortie seulement'). The yellow tabs are the exit numbers, with the upper part pointing to the direction of the exit (both right exits in this case). Cardinal directions are also pretty easy to understand: EST = EAST, NORD = NORTH, SUD = SOUTH, OUEST = WEST. In 'Federal' areas (such as border crossings), the signs must be in both English and French. An example:
https://goo.gl/maps/Pdzdw5n8siA2
Sorry for rambling. Quebec signs are my favourite from Canada in general. The Clearview is neatly done, and the mix of American and other styles makes it look unique in North America.
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 30, 2015, 10:16:38 PM
Isn't really a mistake per se, but I don't know what to call this. Is it option or exit lane?
https://goo.gl/maps/WadGf8zQnak
Auxiliary lane. Though when you see them like this in the States, usually the lane ends about 100 feet to 100 yards or so past where the exit ramp peels away. (Eastbound US 190 at I-12 is a good example.)
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 30, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
Sorry for rambling. Quebec signs are my favourite from Canada in general. The Clearview is neatly done, and the mix of American and other styles makes it look unique in North America.
Pfff. You know you love BC.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 30, 2015, 11:14:59 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 30, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
Sorry for rambling. Quebec signs are my favourite from Canada in general. The Clearview is neatly done, and the mix of American and other styles makes it look unique in North America.
Pfff. You know you love BC.
BC is more European IMO (APL's and traffic circle design). I didn't say I didn't like BC style, in fact I do like it too for similar reasons as Quebec. But, I'm not a fan of Helvetica under any circumstance, and I find BC still has work to do with regard to the size of the cardinal directions on BGS's.
Clearview doesn't have a lot to do with it. I like Quebec signs more than Ontario's, and Ontario uses FHWA. And I have no major problems with Ontario's signing techniques either.
Might not count because 'construction zone', but for about a mile, the Exit 132 southbound carriageway of I-5 near Tacoma, WA has all white markings. It actually looks really good against the relatively dark asphalt, but it does little to compensate for the horrid signing in the area.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7651/26860035762_c8b4f28947_b.jpg)
The Drunkard's Crosswalk, in Tuscumbia, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7626/26405699794_f84044d1d8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7A7)Badly Painted Crosswalk (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7A7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7783/26405699474_3bd47a17d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7uA)Badly Painted Crosswalk (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7uA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: colinstu on June 22, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V
I doubt this was intentional.
California does that for upcoming exits. Something to do with there being heavy fog and if you can barely see, you can at least see the lines / that pattern in them.
I though this marking was to discourage cars from stopping on the part of the shoulder that is too close to the exit off ramp.
Quote from: kendancy66 on May 14, 2016, 02:30:07 PM
Quote from: colinstu on June 22, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V
I doubt this was intentional.
California does that for upcoming exits. Something to do with there being heavy fog and if you can barely see, you can at least see the lines / that pattern in them.
I though this marking was to discourage cars from stopping on the part of the shoulder that is too close to the exit off ramp.
It's for fog. The markings are more heavily used in Northern California where fog is a bigger issue. See page 52 of 81 of this PDF, where they are called "flared right edgelines": http://goo.gl/eZ3Gsl
This is not how you do a TWLTL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/26409854474_6b7fe6ce7a_z.jpg) (here (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6051943,-122.6289805,3a,60y,272.34h,64.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb7fz6FiXWO3ilyzI69ho3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en))
I hope this doesn't get built as shown:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/26409854664_499ffd09ed_z.jpg) (here (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2671831,-119.1828269,126m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en))
The UW sucks at lane arrows... (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6603486,-122.3012515,57m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/26907602120_5e6f59da0b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZJuEu)
Each direction of travel is about 20-22 feet wide, so traffic sorts itself into two lanes in each direction. Surely they didn't intend for one 22' lane of travel. Here's the location on GSV- you can see cars sorting into two lanes there, too. File this under the "negligence" folder for striping fails.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0002432,-87.806769,3a,65.5y,2.7h,80.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.902046%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of.
Each direction of travel is about 20-22 feet wide, so traffic sorts itself into two lanes in each direction. Surely they didn't intend for one 22' lane of travel. Here's the location on GSV- you can see cars sorting into two lanes there, too. File this under the "negligence" folder for striping fails.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0002432,-87.806769,3a,65.5y,2.7h,80.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.902046%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
If I ended up on this road and didn't know any better, I would just assume it was a single lane in each direction with parking lanes - especially with the centerline striped for passing (not a big fan of that either on urban roadways)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
That was my thought. In many cities, something like that is intended to have parking on either side. Once upon a time, there were probably streetcar tracks in the middle, hence the wide ROW in many places.
Quote from: cl94 on May 22, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
That was my thought. In many cities, something like that is intended to have parking on either side. Once upon a time, there were probably streetcar tracks in the middle, hence the wide ROW in many places.
In looking at the signs in Street View, Parking appears to be allowed, except during weekday rush hours and when snow is more than 2".
Given the residential nature of the street with no other cues, I also would have assumed only one travel lane.
Quote from: roadfro on May 24, 2016, 12:40:57 AM
Quote from: cl94 on May 22, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
That was my thought. In many cities, something like that is intended to have parking on either side. Once upon a time, there were probably streetcar tracks in the middle, hence the wide ROW in many places.
In looking at the signs in Street View, Parking appears to be allowed, except during weekday rush hours and when snow is more than 2".
Given the residential nature of the street with no other cues, I also would have assumed only one travel lane.
I think the public has kind of repurposed the road in the way they saw fit. Maybe it's time CDOT put some kind of marking there to make things clear, whether skip dashes or parking outlines. Of course, however, that would mean CDOT would have to ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. Sorry guys I figured out the actual problem. The problem is that the road is in the Chicago city limits
NY 30 in western Schenectady County (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7646977,-74.2457418,3a,31.3y,1.53h,75.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGdrOGbyiFE3k_CTgDo0LSw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). How the hell they managed this is beyond me.
While we're in the area, classic Region 2 median striping (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9554862,-74.2225794,3a,75y,294.8h,63.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8csCICayr8TBUAqsEfVqeA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) on NY 5 in Amsterdam. That hatching pattern is R2 standard and is only found there.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 24, 2016, 12:40:57 AM
Quote from: cl94 on May 22, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
That was my thought. In many cities, something like that is intended to have parking on either side. Once upon a time, there were probably streetcar tracks in the middle, hence the wide ROW in many places.
In looking at the signs in Street View, Parking appears to be allowed, except during weekday rush hours and when snow is more than 2".
Given the residential nature of the street with no other cues, I also would have assumed only one travel lane.
I think the public has kind of repurposed the road in the way they saw fit. Maybe it's time CDOT put some kind of marking there to make things clear, whether skip dashes or parking outlines. Of course, however, that would mean CDOT would have to ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. Sorry guys I figured out the actual problem. The problem is that the road is in the Chicago city limits
This example brings up an interesting question. How do you stripe a road if you permit passing (crossing the yellow line when safe to do so) only during part of the day, but prohibit it during other parts of the day (when parking is not allowed, people should change lanes and not pass over the yellow)? I don't believe you are allowed to have broken yellow dash and broken white dash on the same street, because it is confusing. With sun glare, the yellow and white lines look similar.
One possibility may be to have a broken double yellow striped along the median and broken white to differentiate the two parallel lanes.
Most streets like this in other cities are striped with a double yellow and broken white. Drive 2 lanes during rush and drive 1 lane during non-rush - and no passing over the yellow line is ever permitted. That is probably the safest configuration.
Quote from: mrsman on May 26, 2016, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 24, 2016, 12:40:57 AM
Quote from: cl94 on May 22, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
That was my thought. In many cities, something like that is intended to have parking on either side. Once upon a time, there were probably streetcar tracks in the middle, hence the wide ROW in many places.
In looking at the signs in Street View, Parking appears to be allowed, except during weekday rush hours and when snow is more than 2".
Given the residential nature of the street with no other cues, I also would have assumed only one travel lane.
I think the public has kind of repurposed the road in the way they saw fit. Maybe it's time CDOT put some kind of marking there to make things clear, whether skip dashes or parking outlines. Of course, however, that would mean CDOT would have to ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. Sorry guys I figured out the actual problem. The problem is that the road is in the Chicago city limits
This example brings up an interesting question. How do you stripe a road if you permit passing (crossing the yellow line when safe to do so) only during part of the day, but prohibit it during other parts of the day (when parking is not allowed, people should change lanes and not pass over the yellow)? I don't believe you are allowed to have broken yellow dash and broken white dash on the same street, because it is confusing. With sun glare, the yellow and white lines look similar.
One possibility may be to have a broken double yellow striped along the median and broken white to differentiate the two parallel lanes.
Most streets like this in other cities are striped with a double yellow and broken white. Drive 2 lanes during rush and drive 1 lane during non-rush - and no passing over the yellow line is ever permitted. That is probably the safest configuration.
In downtown Naperville, Illinois, they have provided both the white skip dash and the parking stall corners. This is on Washington Street, where 4 lanes of traffic are allowed during peak hours and parallel parking is allowed at other times. I think I'd rather see both forms of striping rather than neither. https://goo.gl/maps/QzvTSxERbms
Quote from: mrsman on May 26, 2016, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:18:06 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 24, 2016, 12:40:57 AM
Quote from: cl94 on May 22, 2016, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2016, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of
Is parking permitted along the edge?
In my town, there are a lot of wide roads that have parking along the edge, and sometimes between blocks, there will be lane markings, and sometimes there won't. It can be pretty random. You'll be driving along the outer lane, when suddenly there's a car in front of you.
That was my thought. In many cities, something like that is intended to have parking on either side. Once upon a time, there were probably streetcar tracks in the middle, hence the wide ROW in many places.
In looking at the signs in Street View, Parking appears to be allowed, except during weekday rush hours and when snow is more than 2".
Given the residential nature of the street with no other cues, I also would have assumed only one travel lane.
I think the public has kind of repurposed the road in the way they saw fit. Maybe it's time CDOT put some kind of marking there to make things clear, whether skip dashes or parking outlines. Of course, however, that would mean CDOT would have to ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. Sorry guys I figured out the actual problem. The problem is that the road is in the Chicago city limits
This example brings up an interesting question. How do you stripe a road if you permit passing (crossing the yellow line when safe to do so) only during part of the day, but prohibit it during other parts of the day (when parking is not allowed, people should change lanes and not pass over the yellow)? I don't believe you are allowed to have broken yellow dash and broken white dash on the same street, because it is confusing. With sun glare, the yellow and white lines look similar.
One possibility may be to have a broken double yellow striped along the median and broken white to differentiate the two parallel lanes.
Most streets like this in other cities are striped with a double yellow and broken white. Drive 2 lanes during rush and drive 1 lane during non-rush - and no passing over the yellow line is ever permitted. That is probably the safest configuration.
The standard method includes signage, overhead arrows and X's and/or broken double yellows. Since there's numerous variations, what method(s) are used will depend on the particular conditions that exist.
Here's the MUTCD regarding reversible lanes: http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part4/part4m.htm
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 14, 2016, 02:10:47 PM
The Drunkard's Crosswalk, in Tuscumbia, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7626/26405699794_f84044d1d8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7A7)Badly Painted Crosswalk (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7A7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7783/26405699474_3bd47a17d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7uA)Badly Painted Crosswalk (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7uA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
That appears to just be "rolled carpet" effect from cars stopping, which drags the slightly flexible asphalt back and forms noticeable bulges in the sides of the lane right before intersections, and "smears" striping like shown there. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/F4aDDJa8m2m) is another example.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/26907602120_5e6f59da0b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZJuEu)
Each direction of travel is about 20-22 feet wide, so traffic sorts itself into two lanes in each direction. Surely they didn't intend for one 22' lane of travel. Here's the location on GSV- you can see cars sorting into two lanes there, too. File this under the "negligence" folder for striping fails.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0002432,-87.806769,3a,65.5y,2.7h,80.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.902046%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Actually in response to Jake's question, yes on street parking was allowed there in the 1980's. I am not sure if that is still the case now. I did my freshman year of college just a few blocks north of this street view link at Niles College of Loyola University. Alas, it is gone now (my dorm was in what is now Pioneer Park at the corner of Harlem and Touhy).
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/26907602120_5e6f59da0b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZJuEu)
Each direction of travel is about 20-22 feet wide, so traffic sorts itself into two lanes in each direction. Surely they didn't intend for one 22' lane of travel. Here's the location on GSV- you can see cars sorting into two lanes there, too. File this under the "negligence" folder for striping fails.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0002432,-87.806769,3a,65.5y,2.7h,80.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.902046%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
How is that a striping fail? Edge lines aren't required, and I've seen numerous roads like this. Personally, it appears the street is only supposed to be one lane per direction, and somehow it became quasi-permitted for it to be 2 lanes per direction...with a passing zone as well!
Reminds me of MA 3A in Burlington, MA.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/MA-3A,+Burlington,+MA+01803/@42.5143504,-71.2038675,3a,66.8y,326.31h,76.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjGYJYxx23lKMSQ0wwLdrCw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e3633e313b4005:0xe9eb4180b47fe976
Edgelines and wider shoulders appear once you head north into Billerica.
Agreed on not seeing how that's a fail. It's the norm in most of Wisconsin.
The only places where it's different is where a road has been recently 'updated' and made safer, normally by either striping in a bike lane, adding curb bumpouts at intersections/ped crossings, and/or both.
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 31, 2016, 08:16:33 AM
Actually in response to Jake's question, yes on street parking was allowed there in the 1980's. I am not sure if that is still the case now. I did my freshman year of college just a few blocks north of this street view link at Niles College of Loyola University. Alas, it is gone now (my dorm was in what is now Pioneer Park at the corner of Harlem and Touhy).
There are time restrictions on the parking, but there are times when it's allowed:
https://goo.gl/OV8vQd
Quote from: colinstu on May 31, 2016, 09:12:43 AM
Agreed on not seeing how that's a fail. It's the norm in most of Wisconsin.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 31, 2016, 08:34:52 AM
How is that a striping fail? Edge lines aren't required, and I've seen numerous roads like this. Personally, it appears the street is only supposed to be one lane per direction, and somehow it became quasi-permitted for it to be 2 lanes per direction...with a passing zone as well!
We already discussed this on the last page. The edges are for parking. We already came to the conclusion that there was no error.
Another TWLTL fail (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2560735,-119.8938038,3a,75y,131.52h,56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCXW12SuW6nOkHUg99VFN-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en)... repeated the whole rest of the block!
End of MA 88 S in Westport. Lane stripes seem to disappear past the bridge. No signage indicating a lane drop. Not even the exit lane is striped (though that's par-for-the-course for the former MassHighway/current MassDOT): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5155127,-71.0671227,3a,75y,167h,73.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sr_JZf6Zhha5Ju7UAyRK66g!2e0!5s20120901T000000!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5155127,-71.0671227,3a,75y,167h,73.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sr_JZf6Zhha5Ju7UAyRK66g!2e0!5s20120901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/27087874024_212a7da22d_k_d.jpg)
striping fail or does the sign need to change now? :D
I wish I had storage to take a picture at the time, but they resurfaced Interstate 75 in Georgia from Dalton to the Tennessee line back in Summer 2016. They completely messed up with the striping on the section from roughly Exit 350 (GA SR 2; Battlefield Parkway) to the TN line. There was much disparity between the first set of broken stripes, and the final (larger) set of broken stripes that is usually fitted right on top of the previous set (after a resurfacing). The disparity was so much going Southbound that instead of three regular travel lanes it looked like three HOV lanes (going by Georgia's style of HOV lane striping). They seem to have fixed it up now by getting rid of the broken stripes that weren't in the right place.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/26907602120_5e6f59da0b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZJuEu)
Each direction of travel is about 20-22 feet wide, so traffic sorts itself into two lanes in each direction. Surely they didn't intend for one 22' lane of travel. Here's the location on GSV- you can see cars sorting into two lanes there, too. File this under the "negligence" folder for striping fails.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0002432,-87.806769,3a,65.5y,2.7h,80.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.902046%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Less to do with negligence than with Chicago driving habits. This is intended to be a two-lane street with parking. The locals (called FIBs by Cheeseheads for a very good reason) tend to turn any street wide enough for four lanes into a four-lane street.
Quote from: Brandon on January 03, 2017, 12:19:41 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:51:54 PM
This was a pretty glaring/terrifying error. On IL43 on the far northern edge of Chicago, there are no white skip dashes to speak of.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/26907602120_5e6f59da0b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZJuEu)
Each direction of travel is about 20-22 feet wide, so traffic sorts itself into two lanes in each direction. Surely they didn't intend for one 22' lane of travel. Here's the location on GSV- you can see cars sorting into two lanes there, too. File this under the "negligence" folder for striping fails.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0002432,-87.806769,3a,65.5y,2.7h,80.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DYnHzAIy9nBfZHAU-OiX3ZA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.902046%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Less to do with negligence than with Chicago driving habits. This is intended to be a two-lane street with parking. The locals (called FIBs by Cheeseheads for a very good reason) tend to turn any street wide enough for four lanes into a four-lane street.
I agree. I have seen roads just like this in the neighborhoods of Birmingham, Alabama. Very wide roads with dashed yellow stripes, and no dashed
or solid white striping whatsoever. I agree that it is simply intended to be a two-lane road with room for parallel parking on the edges. On these roads I have seen on Birmingham, often times the edges were in fact partially filled up with parked cars.
Can't remember where, but saw on Facebook over the weekend a picture that showed striping over dog crap.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Can't remember where, but saw on Facebook over the weekend a picture that showed striping over dog crap.
That's not a striping fail, just a candidate for the "not my job" contest.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Can't remember where, but saw on Facebook over the weekend a picture that showed striping over dog crap.
Back in 1996, PennDOT actually
paved over a deer carcass along PA 895 (http://articles.mcall.com/1996-08-31/news/3103159_1_walter-bortree-bowmanstown-mayor-keith-billig-deer).
Wouldn't call this a fail or mistake, but I am intrigued as to why this was done, considering the lines were painted at the same time:
https://goo.gl/maps/Nm9X1FfNxsz
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 08, 2017, 12:08:09 AM
Wouldn't call this a fail or mistake, but I am intrigued as to why this was done, considering the lines were painted at the same time:
https://goo.gl/maps/Nm9X1FfNxsz
Maybe they designed the extra asphalt as a bike lane, so they painted a double-solid to disallow driving in said lane (otherwise it would be a shoulder, and vehicles would be allowed to drive in it).
The OH-16 offramps (https://goo.gl/maps/czGgNfDEVdt) to Old Riley Road near Frazeysburg have the left and right turn lanes separated with yellow stripes and crosshatches. (They were originally built with two lanes to turn south, but the center lanes were striped over...in yellow...after the decline of the Longaberger factory down the road.)
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 03, 2017, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Can't remember where, but saw on Facebook over the weekend a picture that showed striping over dog crap.
Back in 1996, PennDOT actually paved over a deer carcass along PA 895 (http://articles.mcall.com/1996-08-31/news/3103159_1_walter-bortree-bowmanstown-mayor-keith-billig-deer).
Recent example of at least the Mercer Co., NJ DOT not striping over a skunk (though since it was in the shoulder, the white stripe's already there): link, NSFsqueamish (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3wCVW1Xcecc/WDi4gYliVpI/AAAAAAAAvwk/I8cmgZSRhdg3zpJWg3RzbfiRme2IYI7dgCLcB/s1600/112516%2B13%2BAlternate%2BStriping%252C%2BCarter%2BRd.JPG)
(From this blog I occasionally read (http://perpetualheadwinds.blogspot.com/2016/11/gloomy-november-impromptu-black-friday.html))
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3175174,-90.9776936,3a,67.3y,244.1h,73.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2mg1nxtoRsDPRI0hh9mOLA!2e0!5s20110301T000000!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) seems like a serious issue -- a marked left turn lane that would send you the wrong way down a dual carriageway!
Quote from: jay8g on February 18, 2017, 01:18:47 AM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3175174,-90.9776936,3a,67.3y,244.1h,73.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2mg1nxtoRsDPRI0hh9mOLA!2e0!5s20110301T000000!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) seems like a serious issue -- a marked left turn lane that would send you the wrong way down a dual carriageway!
Holy crap! Maybe a left turn was eliminated but the turn lane was not? That's a pretty egregious error regardless.
Looking at old street view, the main road was already divided by the time the side road was built, and there is no trace of a left-turn cut through. I'm guessing that the developer was following a template, and no one reviewed it properly...
If I were the one painting the arrow on the pavement, I'd definitely be making a phone call first.
Here's some photos I posted in the Western Canada Road Projects thread. These were taken on TCH 16 east of Saskatoon. The white lines are the current markings, while the yellow lines are the old markings.
Quote from: 7/8 on April 28, 2017, 10:45:51 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtFULd9P.jpg&hash=09edb361be26eb26157c71dca4bee2d8ef52ffe6)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyF2n19d.jpg&hash=09ab3a0ecf0040b7976dbbd0e1957090fc68d76c)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrELvZsp.jpg&hash=4c8fa62458603b11b6aecc67cdd42154ee7d6632)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgAjjIA9.jpg&hash=90a9cf4ac11822cef61a230a7b0a9b4191839482)
Saw this today on a one way street.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/V4EzViU1ycFlzfcgOL0gnrhl1T_b8SLJWrGpPvaJw8LGiCRyNScZba86AEgfMiw26tW-QX7beZH2jMfqKR7bey-1BB9N31J0CzXc376TD_dFNmJo9Bi1BzLwt-IefIPWBSJbisobdlD05yZdQ3w8W_LO7bd3y3AzB0NZf23mbo2DN4gKKgl44YJ4BcinbeRWKE_WtOW0A3ftE6F7bIxt4xRu0wGEGnEvccqMaINT6I_3mLYetjZeN5xMz87Qg6WfJqkbXO4ea7KJq8E8XDyirnTl6Y3ywPVz7OzJmFGX0zcPLZ-fwuWivmW-heR-uMIuxUw7gqWxYhofryRcRs_RwX1i1N2LHl_uaB_IEeH9N-oDLCJ1_dlt5igq9OqrGxOUXoi-fKxrEd85mYBoKsO8FEHirF2u4IizYoeTbL8121eO0dxHychgBaa1AOZbu5HN7dniZSpUZRRNrpEGKKU8TpwQ7rPBXswWM21DiX1lMgu7YtAd3aGtzTPR0CDbPUyL0Wjgq3tNZJRNLVipqX6QInSMazMkii-E_5eDLhoG26KGwi5v2osySYqGCcb0nNdZ1awUS8696nWLPoyKQeiklAfTyKb249Nw4y63UpPJ2kOUx0Nh5mnGYYmT=w479-h638-no)
Hard to tell, but for some reason the lane marking nearest the bottom left is yellow. White paint was partially painted on top of it.
This relatively minor interchange on I-90 in western Montana has the yellow and white lines switched.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F168d3j4.png&hash=d96b2eafa0a954c4e7696f7ad89e6e85910479de)
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3126537,-115.2337958,3a,75y,227.68h,67.8t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAlF_En8RJ8jKVvoDUbR31A!2e0!5s20110301T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en
The major of the town of Cangas del Morrazo, in Galicia, Northern Spain, wanted to have the largest pedestrian crossing in the country so...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2Fabkvpv.jpg&hash=5e8ab98bf17884ea05b6784739cc090aa48d14e1)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F2wcpoxi.jpg&hash=75f6ec8850179ab19bf339cd3366e8ca79334bbd)
They didn't even erase the previous markings! Rainy days will be hell for bikers and pedestrians... :pan: