http://www.kcet.org/socal/departures/columns/intersections/beyond-the-valley-demography-failed-secession-and-urban-politics-in-san-fernando-valley.html (http://www.kcet.org/socal/departures/columns/intersections/beyond-the-valley-demography-failed-secession-and-urban-politics-in-san-fernando-valley.html)
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29666348 (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29666348)
Here are 2 US cities that I can think of for now Saint George and Baton Rouge in Louisiana and
San Fernando Valley from Los Angeles back in 2002 (failed in the Los Angeles Case).
http://www.dailynews.com/20121104/secession-drive-changed-san-fernando-valley-los-angeles (http://www.dailynews.com/20121104/secession-drive-changed-san-fernando-valley-los-angeles)
This does not include San Fernando City near the CA-118 @ I-210 interchange.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fernando,_California
I remember hearing from a tour guide in Key West how the Florida Keys were considering seceeding at one time. I do not know if that was a joke, but nonetheless that is how the term "Conch Republic" got to be coined.
There was talk 10 years ago or so about Killington wanting to secede from Vermont and join New Hampshire. Obviously it didn't go anywhere.
I am surprised that San Diego does not want to go with Baja California in the neighboring country. With all the talk of California splitting into multiple states, you figure that would have been an option.
Atlanta
Chattanooga
Richmond
etc.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 20, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
I remember hearing from a tour guide in Key West how the Florida Keys were considering seceeding at one time. I do not know if that was a joke, but nonetheless that is how the term "Conch Republic" got to be coined.
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Quote from: roadman65 on October 20, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
I remember hearing from a tour guide in Key West how the Florida Keys were considering seceeding at one time. I do not know if that was a joke, but nonetheless that is how the term "Conch Republic" got to be coined.
I think this thread is about seceding from another city, not from a state.
Another example: There have been various times in Albuquerque for the west side of the city to secede and form their own city.
I would say that Washington DC seceded from Maryland and Virginia to form their own city. Not only did they attempt to secede, but they succeeded in seceding. Say the last three words of that sentence five times fast.
Quote from: 1 on October 20, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
I would say that Washington DC seceded from Maryland and Virginia to form their own city. Not only did they attempt to secede, but they succeeded in seceding. Say the last three words of that sentence five times fast.
Actually, Virginia got their part back. It was over slavery and the slave trade in Alexandria, if I remember correctly.
Quote from: 1 on October 20, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
I would say that Washington DC seceded from Maryland and Virginia to form their own city. Not only did they attempt to secede, but they succeeded in seceding.
So it's true what they say about kids today spending too much time on the Internet and not listening in class.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 20, 2014, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 20, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
I would say that Washington DC seceded from Maryland and Virginia to form their own city. Not only did they attempt to secede, but they succeeded in seceding.
So it's true what they say about kids today spending too much time on the Internet and not listening in class.
A simple correction isn't enough? Maybe he hasn't taken American history at the high school level yet. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 20, 2014, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 20, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
I remember hearing from a tour guide in Key West how the Florida Keys were considering seceeding at one time. I do not know if that was a joke, but nonetheless that is how the term "Conch Republic" got to be coined.
I think this thread is about seceding from another city, not from a state.
Another example: There have been various times in Albuquerque for the west side of the city to secede and form their own city.
Nawh! You don't say! Of course I know that, the Keys are not one whole city, but it is noteworthy that it might of been an entity that tried to seceed. I believe that in this case, it would not make any harm to go a little bit off topic. Believe me it is still related, as I whether an area has a charter or not, does not mean that it is different to pose the chance to want to seceed. I have seen others go further away from the topic on other threads. I mean way off to another topic. At least this is the same act that is being discussed.
Quote from: 1 on October 20, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
I would say that Washington DC seceded from Maryland and Virginia to form their own city. Not only did they attempt to secede, but they succeeded in seceding. Say the last three words of that sentence five times fast.
Um, no. Washington, DC, was reserved and carved out of Virginia and Maryland by the federal government. Virginia got their part back prior to the Civil War. It never seceded from anything.
I can't think of any municipalities in Illinois that seceded from any other municipalities in Illinois. Mostly, municipalities are created out of unincorporated land in order to stave off annexation by another municipality.
I think Key West's secession as the Conch Republic lasted roughly half a day in 1982, and had no serious reasons to do so...Because Key West.
Quote from: formulanone on October 20, 2014, 04:42:39 PM
I think Key West's secession as the Conch Republic lasted roughly half a day in 1982, and had no serious reasons to do so...Because Key West.
It did have a very serious reason for doing so. US Border Patrol was stopping every vehicle coming out of Key West looking for illegal immigrants and drugs. It seriously pissed off the locals, and I can't blame them.
Quote from: roadman65 on October 20, 2014, 04:23:07 PM
Believe me it is still related, as I whether an area has a charter or not, does not mean that it is different to pose the chance to want to seceed.
well at least you cleared that up for us.
Some splits happened after the 1926 Miami hurricane. For example, Dania was split out of Fort Lauderdale and Hollywood in 1927, and Boynton Beach (now Ocean Ridge) was split out of Boynton in 1931.
There is periodic discussion of Staten Island seceding from the city and even the state of New York (in the latter case, joining New Jersey, with the assumption that either state would agree to this, never mind both). I don't think it will ever do either, instead using the clamor to highlight perceived inequities between it and the other boroughs.
Quote from: Molandfreak on October 20, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 20, 2014, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 20, 2014, 03:56:51 PM
I would say that Washington DC seceded from Maryland and Virginia to form their own city. Not only did they attempt to secede, but they succeeded in seceding.
So it's true what they say about kids today spending too much time on the Internet and not listening in class.
A simple correction isn't enough? Maybe he hasn't taken American history at the high school level yet. :rolleyes:
Oh, come on. This board is so full of so much more insulting rebukes that never get so much as a blink.
In any case, the issue's already been addressed since my post. I'll only add that the whole issue was a complex web of deals woven to get all parties on board with the new constitution. In fairness, in quick and casual searching I haven't found much to indicate the sentiments of the Virginia or Maryland population or governments in the 1790s regarding the choice to cede land to the federal government, but it is safe to say that these areas did not "secede"–i.e. leave of a specific desire to do so–based on the expression of their residents' desire to leave their respective states.
Quote from: bing101 on October 20, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
Here are 2 US cities that I can think of for now Saint George and Baton Rouge in Louisiana and
I don't get it. St. George is in unincorporated East Baton Rouge Parish.
http://www.stgeorgelouisiana.com/the-map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Village_St._George,_Louisiana
Apparently the National media and international media got this one wrong its really Saint George wanting to become a city incorporated and is trying to get Baton Rouge Parish and State of Louisiana approval.
http://theadvocate.com/home/7751103-125/business-leaders-launch-campaign-against
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 20, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
There is periodic discussion of Staten Island seceding from the city and even the state of New York (in the latter case, joining New Jersey, with the assumption that either state would agree to this, never mind both). I don't think it will ever do either, instead using the clamor to highlight perceived inequities between it and the other boroughs.
Honestly, it's closer and more connected to NJ, so it's odd that it's still a part of NY. It would be even more logical if Long Island ever succeeds in seceding like they want to.
For whatever reason, Charles II didn't give it to Sirs Berkeley and Carteret along with everything else in that side of the bay, and in New York it has remained.
The Keys did secede, declared war, fired one shot, surrendered, and applied for government assistance. I was there that day. Did not get far. No one took us seriously
Thank you for sharing with me.
The problem with misspelled thread titles is this: the first time you see it, you know it's wrong. But the 50th time, you have to think a bit before remembering which spelling is correct.
For this reason, I'm seceding from this thread.
Quote from: NE2 on October 23, 2014, 07:50:36 PM
The problem with misspelled thread titles is this: the first time you see it, you know it's wrong. But the 50th time, you have to think a bit before remembering which spelling is correct.
For this reason, I'm seceding from this thread.
I don't have to think about it at all. I know the thread title is misspelled, but I don't care because I know what the correct spelling is even without autocorrect. I've made enough typos of my own over the years that I don't feel the need to harp on it unless it's a really bad typo or it results in something funny.
(An example of something funny, if perhaps in a tasteless way, was when pictures of Princess Diana's car accident were posted online and someone I knew accidentally referred to the "Princess Die photos.")
Actually it was April 21. 1982. It was over the border guards and it was Key West and the Florida Keys. Meaning all the Keys from Key Largo to Key West. The Keys were winding down then from the smuggling businesses at that time
Thank you for sharing with me.
Quote from: NE2 on October 23, 2014, 07:50:36 PM
The problem with misspelled thread titles is this: the first time you see it, you know it's wrong. But the 50th time, you have to think a bit before remembering which spelling is correct.
For this reason, I'm seceding from this thread.
In a spineless attempt at appeasement I fixed it for you.
This is on-topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising