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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Traffic Control => Topic started by: Pink Jazz on October 23, 2014, 05:49:34 PM

Title: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: Pink Jazz on October 23, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
I was wondering, does anyone know which states refer to such lanes as either "HOV" lanes or "Carpool" lanes?

Here is what I know:


Specifically, do any states other than California call them Carpool lanes?
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: Brandon on October 23, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
Illinois has neither - there are no HOV or Carpool lanes in the entire state.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: 1995hoo on October 23, 2014, 06:07:32 PM
I've seen "HOV" signs in New York as well.

Back in the 1970s, Virginia had signs referring to "Pool Cars." The first "HOV" signs in Virginia appeared in 1982.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: SectorZ on October 23, 2014, 06:07:49 PM
http://www.mhd.state.ma.us/default.asp?pgid=car/FAQ-HOV-93N&sid=about

Guess Massachusetts in the matter of a few sentences can manage to call them both, but colloquially people call them the HOV lane.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: dfilpus on October 23, 2014, 06:31:15 PM
North Carolina: HOV
Michigan: HOV
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: Scott5114 on October 23, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 23, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
Illinois has neither - there are no HOV or Carpool lanes in the entire state.

Likewise for Oklahoma, and unless something's changed Kansas. I don't think there's any in MO, but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 23, 2014, 06:39:59 PM
NJ: HOV
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: sdmichael on October 23, 2014, 06:44:57 PM
California is switching to the new MUTCD standards for HOV lanes, which includes signing them as HOV lanes.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: NE2 on October 23, 2014, 06:47:08 PM
Virginia also uses "restricted lane" in the DC and Hampton Roads areas. DC uses HOV on its access points.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: Kacie Jane on October 23, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
Washington calls them HOV lanes 99% of the time, but there are signs on I-405 saying "No trucks in carpool lane" and VMS messages seen to run about 50/50 between "HOV" and "carpool".
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: SSOWorld on October 23, 2014, 07:26:29 PM
HOV == Carpool.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: sdmichael on October 23, 2014, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on October 23, 2014, 07:26:29 PM
HOV == Carpool.

Yes, we are aware. The question was about how they are actually signed. In California, they have been signed as "Carpool" where other jurisdictions call them "HOV". New HOV lanes in California are being changed to HOV instead of Carpool and older lanes will be modified in time.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: SSOWorld on October 23, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
IC.  gotta love PC eh?
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: Roadsguy on October 23, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
PennDOT uses "Restricted Lanes" on all of the one set of HOV lanes in the state.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: roadfro on October 23, 2014, 08:37:16 PM
Nevada uses HOV.

I would think most jurisdictions would use HOV term since that is what is present in the MUTCD. Those that don't probably are facilities that predate the adoption of MUTCD's HOV standards (such as, most likely, California's use of Carpool).
Title: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: 1995hoo on October 23, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: NE2 on October 23, 2014, 06:47:08 PM
Virginia also uses "restricted lane" in the DC and Hampton Roads areas. DC uses HOV on its access points.

The "Restricted Lanes" signs in the I-95 corridor are disappearing because of the HO/T project. Signs north of the project are being changed (somewhat inconsistently, to be sure) to read "HOV LANES." Makes sense because the HO/T lanes will be "restricted" but will carry a different restriction from the HOV lanes to the north.

This sign said "Restricted Lanes" until a few weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FHOVlanesinsteadofRestrictedLanes_zpsd6745447.png&hash=681a38bdee91572b7224790ca58dd41c0ca10d58)


Edited to add: Here is the old "Pool Cars" sign I mentioned. This is just about the same location as the other picture above, but it was the better part of 40 years ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2Ff7c13517.jpg&hash=3ce3d7dbc2445ce24eea91444c162da445e604ac)
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: jakeroot on October 24, 2014, 02:06:48 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on October 23, 2014, 07:09:18 PM
Washington calls them HOV lanes 99% of the time, but there are signs on I-405 saying "No trucks in carpool lane" and VMS messages seen to run about 50/50 between "HOV" and "carpool".

If you take a gander through historical street view, you can see signs along the 405 used to say "carpool", but have slowly been replaced with, well, icons:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuDKiCWo.png&hash=f85d56e8a4a61280dab64f0ed3e5ae94149ee195)
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: froggie on October 24, 2014, 07:46:36 AM
Minnesota's former HOV lanes have now become HO/T lanes and are officially called "MnPASS Express Lanes" (referring to the brand of ETC used).  Overhead signs use the term "Car Pools" (two words, not one) such as in this I-35W example (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/13925117022/in/set-72157644122507621).  Except for the dynamic shoulder lane on northbound I-35W from 42nd St to ~26th St, the MnPASS lanes are open to all traffic during non-peak hours.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: roadman on October 24, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: Cjzani on October 23, 2014, 06:07:49 PM
http://www.mhd.state.ma.us/default.asp?pgid=car/FAQ-HOV-93N&sid=about

Guess Massachusetts in the matter of a few sentences can manage to call them both, but colloquially people call them the HOV lane.
All signing on I-93 now refers to the lanes both north and south of Boston as "HOV 2+ Lane".
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on October 24, 2014, 01:50:14 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 23, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
Illinois has neither - there are no HOV or Carpool lanes in the entire state.

Also none in Indiana.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: GaryV on October 24, 2014, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: dfilpus on October 23, 2014, 06:31:15 PM
Michigan: HOV
Where?
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: dfilpus on October 24, 2014, 08:00:10 PM
Michigan Avenue, in Detroit.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: oscar on October 24, 2014, 08:15:04 PM
Hawaii seems to use the diamond symbol followed by "Buses and Car Pools", no use of the HOV abbreviation.  Since Hawaii DOT mimics Caltrans in many ways, that makes sense.

Alaska has no restricted lanes on its freeways.
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: mass_citizen on October 28, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
I think the real question is what percentage of drivers know what "HOV" stands for versus know the definition of "carpool" 
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 29, 2014, 12:13:36 AM
Ontario uses HOV. I don't recall ever seeing the term used on a sign though, due to bilingualism here. Pictures are used instead. Haven't really looked hard though.

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/traveller/hov/faq.shtml#a7
Title: Re: HOV vs. Carpool Lanes by state
Post by: KEK Inc. on October 29, 2014, 04:12:11 AM
Oregon uses Restricted Lane or Carpool for its one carpool lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5505312,-122.6785382,3a,15.3y,-3.55h,92.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sk7qK_8zB_wCoXQhMGtTUgw!2e0