I have decided to start a thread for posts of roads that are in desperate need of resurfacing. There are countless roads out there in need of a repaving, but there are some that are just so awful they are beyond worthy of being posted on this thread. I will start the thread off with a road in my area:
Most of I-75 in northern Georgia needs to be resurfaced desperately (excluding a section in Calhoun which was repaved in recent years), but one section in Ringgold is really bad; I call it the "decayed asphalt"
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9090711,-85.1168573,3a,75y,276.49h,80.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sEtyvf32bZhqmku9tmwjnbg!2e0
Here is also a pic of I-75 in Dalton, GA which isn't looking so good (hopefully when they're done with the construction on Exit 336, they'll resurface some of I-75):
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Forrest Circle and Valley Drive here in Huntsville, AL are in need of repaving. They are extremely extremely rough.
Much of the asphalt wearing course of the Baltimore-Washington Parkway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore%E2%80%93Washington_Parkway) (National Park Service maintenance, "secret" Md. 295) was in terrible condition not more than a month or two ago, but NPS and the Federal Highway Administration, Eastern Federal Lands, has had the pavement milled and re-paved.
Big improvement.
80+% of county-maintained highway mileage in Erie County, NY. Some of these stretches have needed it since I moved to the area 7 years ago. There are more places than I could possibly count where it is impossible for one to avoid a pothole because they cover the entire lane. Due to lack of funds, it takes state/federal aid or a condition-related accident for them to even think about doing anything.
US 219 between Orchard Park and Springville was pretty bad until this year, when Region 5 finally did a mill and fill. This stretch notably had "rough road" signs for over a year. Still haven't gotten around to fixing quite a few surface roads, NY 952T/Sweet Home Road in particular, which was a victim of a poor asphalt overlay that fell apart the winter after it was applied.
Most of DE 279 could desperately use a repaving job, especially near the intersection with DE 4, the right turn lane onto DE 4 is getting incredibly bumpy and hard yo navigate.
The stretch of I-83 immediately coming into PA from MD is really bad, but after a mile or so, it gets much better. Not exactly the first thing you'd want people to see coming into PA...
John Young Parkway in Orange County, FL from Whisper Lakes Boulevard to Taft- Vineland Road is terrible. What is more interesting is nearby Central Florida Parkway has been repaved numerous times over the past two decades and JYP has only been resurfaced here once with a cheap ass job to boot.
The asphalt that was used is very thin and its wearing through down to the original pavement beneath it. Not to mention it makes your tires sound weird as well. There would be more if Orange County did not widen JYP in other areas, as the widened parts did get new asphalt as part of the project, but this part has not been touched or altered since 1989 when this part of JYP was first opened.
Most roads in Chicago
Van Dorn Street (secondary route 613) just south of Franconia Road (secondary route 644) near our neighborhood:
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US 80 in Louisiana:
1) Minden to Ada/Taylor to the church where a new railroad overpass is being built.
2) Gibsland to Arcadia
3) Simsboro to Ruston
4) 4-lane through Ruston on the west side of town
5) Choudrant to Lincoln/Ouachita parish line
6) most everything east of Monroe
What is the purpose of patch resurfacing?
Earlier I mentioned JYP in Orlando, which brings me to the Hunters Creek section where big sections of road would be milled up and replaced with new asphalt. All along John Young from Whisper Lakes Boulevard southward to Osceola County would have sections of the roadway in 100 feet increments where one whole lane is replaced with non matching asphalt (not questioning the different grades of it BTW) and it would be in many places in different lanes.
I heard that there is a device that is being used now that scans the integrity of the road, and tells engineers which part of the roadway needs to be redone. I do not know the nature of how the scan is done or what it accomplishes, but if that is what Orange County did here, I am curious to know what was dyer need to have only certain parts of a roadway resurfaced and not the rest.
BTW if you ride on JYP from Whisper Lakes Boulevard to Osceola County, you can see the difference in color of the new verses old and feel the difference on your wheels as you drive along.
Quote from: ET21 on November 02, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
Most roads in Chicago
You can add to that most every IDOT road in the state.
US 1 from north of Port St. John to the Beachline was getting real long in the tooth, but they are in the process of repaving it as we speak.
From north of Port St. John to Titusville could stand a couple of layers.
What about that awful stretch of road somewhere in the midwest (I've already forgotten where), I think on a US highway? There were either pix or a video posted online either here or somewhere else previously. I don't remember if the conditions were of neglect, weather-related, or sinking/shifting.
I've wondered since seeing them, whether anything got done about it or not.
The loop ramps for I-295 to I-95 in DE heading south are in pretty bad shape.
i haven't been on them in years, but I-95 from GWB to New Haven.
I've been scoping around Arkansas on GMSV, and I just noticed that AR SR 22 in Fort Smith seems to be in horrid shape: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3716021,-94.3903132,3a,75y,126.72h,89.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4ch6Lb2YhR0DlwyPFPbJjw!2e0
This is probably some of the worst pavement I've seen on any road.
I-278 in Staten Island. Good god.
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Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on November 05, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
I-278 in Staten Island. Good god.
I-278 needs
way more than a resurfacing.
Quote from: Zeffy on November 05, 2014, 04:46:15 PM
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on November 05, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
I-278 in Staten Island. Good god.
I-278 needs way more than a resurfacing.
Wasn't most of that part rebuilt pretty recently. The SIE is far from the worst stretch of I-278, dare I say one of the best?
I was there in September and it's god awful. The outer crossing is awesome, but once you get on 278 prepare for your dental fillings to fall out
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Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on November 05, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
I was there in September and it's god awful. The outer crossing is awesome, but once you get on 278 prepare for your dental fillings to fall out
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Interesting. I thought they had gotten to all of it. I know the eastern part was rebuilt 2 years ago.
Quote from: cl94 on November 05, 2014, 06:27:38 PM
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on November 05, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
I was there in September and it's god awful. The outer crossing is awesome, but once you get on 278 prepare for your dental fillings to fall out
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Interesting. I thought they had gotten to all of it. I know the eastern part was rebuilt 2 years ago.
The part between 440 and Verrazano—Narrows Bridge. Where all the construction is.
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I-55 in AR, just the entire length once you get past the MO state line heading south, north is fine.
Oklahoma 63 between US 69 and US 270
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on November 05, 2014, 03:26:55 PM
I've been scoping around Arkansas on GMSV, and I just noticed that AR SR 22 in Fort Smith seems to be in horrid shape: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3716021,-94.3903132,3a,75y,126.72h,89.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4ch6Lb2YhR0DlwyPFPbJjw!2e0
This is probably some of the worst pavement I've seen on any road.
I'm not sure about this particular section of Rogers (AR 22), but I know most of it has been resurfaced recently.
I know this isn't a major road, but Germann Road in Gilbert, Arizona definitely needs a resurfacing between Val Vista and Greenfield. However, I expect this segment to eventually be widened, and the road will probably be resurfaced during future widening.
Quote from: DevalDragon on November 06, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Can we just say that Indiana as a whole needs to redo a lot of their roads?
Half the streets in New Orleans.
US 77 from Waco, TX south.
US 1 in all of Chesterfield County, SC, which is about 35 miles.
All of I-26 in SC that hasn't been repaved in the past 3-4 years, which amounts to at least half of it statewide.
Then if there's any money left over, repave at least half of the rest of SC. But get those roads first!
In Phoenix, Glendale Avenue between Arizona 51 and I-17. Also Camelback Road east of 40th Street to the Scottsdale line. Thunderbird Road between I-17 and 7th Street is another one.
In the Los Angeles area, more freeways than you can shake a stick at need a good repaving or resurfacing.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 07, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on November 06, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Can we just say that Indiana as a whole needs to redo a lot of their roads?
Some, but not as bad as Illinois.
Quote from: Brandon on November 11, 2014, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 07, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on November 06, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Can we just say that Indiana as a whole needs to redo a lot of their roads?
Some, but not as bad as Illinois.
Or Pennsylvania. Cross into PA from a neighboring state and it's as if the pavement suddenly ends. And whatever they put into the red asphalt doesn't seem to wear well.
After having been in Indiana the last several days, traveling mainly on I-74 and I-65 (and I-465), I can tell you that Indiana's interstates are downright awful. The state highways, especially their two lane routes, are actually pretty nice, but the interstates take a pounding. Here are my observations:
* Most of the pavement is over 40 years old and has just been resurfaced with asphalt. In many construction zones that I've seen, base patching has not been completed and I've seen new asphalt fail within weeks.
* The concrete under underpasses and near bridges often fails. Less than ten year old concrete near Greensburg along I-74 has failed spectacularly and has been patched extensively. Newer concrete near bridges and underpasses has failed much quicker than that. What's the purpose of these anyways? Can they just asphalt it and keep it consistent?
Quote from: hm insulators on November 11, 2014, 04:22:09 PM
In the Los Angeles area, more freeways than you can shake a stick at need a good repaving or resurfacing.
Challenge accepted. If/when I make it out to Los Angeles, I shall find a stick and shake it at every freeway there.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 07, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on November 06, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Can we just say that Indiana as a whole needs to redo a lot of their roads?
What's the problem? Don't you like how your government blew all that Major Moves money?
Quote from: cl94 on November 11, 2014, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 11, 2014, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 07, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on November 06, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Can we just say that Indiana as a whole needs to redo a lot of their roads?
Some, but not as bad as Illinois.
Or Pennsylvania. Cross into PA from a neighboring state and it's as if the pavement suddenly ends. And whatever they put into the red asphalt doesn't seem to wear well.
That's the mantra, but the FHWA
begs to differ (http://articles.mcall.com/2013-08-21/news/mc-pa-interstates-ranking-20130820_1_interstates-international-roughness-index-steve-chizmar). Pennsylvania ranks 15th for Interstate smoothness, which is better than any adjacent state except West Virginia, apparently.
Quote from: Gnutella on November 15, 2014, 05:59:16 AM
Quote from: cl94 on November 11, 2014, 06:15:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 11, 2014, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 07, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: DevalDragon on November 06, 2014, 01:53:04 AM
Indiana:
Interstate 65 - especially between Gary and Lafayette. Also 94 between Lake Station and New Buffalo is getting pretty rough.
Can we just say that Indiana as a whole needs to redo a lot of their roads?
Some, but not as bad as Illinois.
Or Pennsylvania. Cross into PA from a neighboring state and it's as if the pavement suddenly ends. And whatever they put into the red asphalt doesn't seem to wear well.
That's the mantra, but the FHWA begs to differ (http://articles.mcall.com/2013-08-21/news/mc-pa-interstates-ranking-20130820_1_interstates-international-roughness-index-steve-chizmar). Pennsylvania ranks 15th for Interstate smoothness, which is better than any adjacent state except West Virginia, apparently.
That's a bunch of BS. New York has its spots (I-86 in Region 5, anyone?), but everything tends to be in good shape. Same for Ohio. Ever driven on I-90 in Pennsylvania? Certainly not a smooth ride. There's also a big difference between PTA and PennDOT roads.
Pennsylvania interstates tend to be OK, but the few two lane roads I've been on there were all really bad. For example, this
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becomes this
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after entering NY.
I think I might need to do a double take here, on CA 99 in Bakersfield: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3716912,-119.0434193,3a,75y,172.61h,94.8t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4bjN5m6ylFsrTEAbhMHStQ!2e0
I have no words. I knew California had quite a few rough roads, but... :wow:
Middlesex CR 622 (River Road), south of I-287. Holy shit, this is seriously one bumpy road all the way down until you get to NJ 18. To an extent, US 130 could use one as well, at least in the Middlesex area. As you get down into the Mercer County region, it improves dramatically.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on October 29, 2014, 07:43:28 PM
Most of I-75 in northern Georgia needs to be resurfaced desperately (excluding a section in Calhoun which was repaved in recent years), but one section in Ringgold is really bad; I call it the "decayed asphalt"
Most of the interstates in Alabama use the same Open Graded Friction Course asphalt as a wearing surface. While it is great for reducing spray when it rains, it is also not as good under heavier loads, especially as traffic comes off of a bridge.
I-20/59 southwest of Tuscaloosa really needs a repaving job, as it has old OGFC, particularly in Tuscaloosa and Greene Counties. The portions of I-20 between Anniston and the Georgia State Line that have yet to be widened to six lanes also need resurfacing. Pavement conditions are so bad there that the speed limit was dropped to 55 mph (although it could also be a revenue-making scheme). I don't think the pavement conditions are due to OGFC, but just really old pavement.
A lot of the roads in Ohio look pretty dadgum rough.
I-71 a little southwest of Columbus (look at all the patches, too): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7071437,-83.4301049,3a,75y,249.7h,90.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3sVJrVziuaU6-OOof7yCBQ!2e0
This spot of I-70 in between Dayton & Columbus (though it really needs a restriping; the pavement isn't too awfully bad): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9399115,-83.5479156,3a,75y,264.77h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sq9kZs6tiiJlD25MiaZCMUw!2e0
US 33 near East Liberty: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3244851,-83.5984199,3a,75y,274.87h,89.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sI-PUYKmFE9wLichd5K_62Q!2e0
The Ohio Turnpike (I-80/I-90): https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3519209,-82.8603444,3a,75y,277.08h,88.5t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sScZA458AnS1f-OIhkIl-Ug!2e0
And others. But of course every state has its share of this :)
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on November 20, 2014, 07:39:57 PM
A lot of the roads in Ohio look pretty dadgum rough.
I-71 a little southwest of Columbus (look at all the patches, too): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7071437,-83.4301049,3a,75y,249.7h,90.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3sVJrVziuaU6-OOof7yCBQ!2e0
That was repaved about five years ago (IIRC) and was failing within months. It's been patched, repatched and repatched many times. I'm sure that it was a mixture problem in the asphalt.
QuoteUS 33 near East Liberty: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3244851,-83.5984199,3a,75y,274.87h,89.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sI-PUYKmFE9wLichd5K_62Q!2e0
If you look around that area, you'll see three eras or types of concrete pavement. Some with rumble strips, others without. For this section (http://goo.gl/maps/jnVM9), it seems to be continuously reinforced but without joints, hence the natural cracking. Virginia does this a lot.
U.S. 89 between Flagstaff and Cameron has very deep ruts in the pavement.
U.S. 89 between the split with U.S. 89A and it's intersection with U.S. 160. Horrible.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 02, 2014, 01:52:43 PM
Van Dorn Street (secondary route 613) just south of Franconia Road (secondary route 644) near our neighborhood:
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This received a half-arsed repair recently. The road wasn't resurfaced, but the worst of the holes were filled in with lumpy patches. Still rides like a washboard, though.
A batch of roads with pretty horrid-looking pavement I've found in Pennsylvania:
US 11/US 15 in Enola (near Harrisburg): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3107137,-76.922724,3a,75y,195.15h,81.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sw2QYETmIxuXlDy6Md6vMrA!2e0
US 422 near Collegeville: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1562915,-75.4693007,3a,75y,306.88h,86.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZcSOyZ8EgpOaBKQ7YbpyTg!2e0