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Title: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: SSOWorld on November 01, 2014, 04:42:02 AM
2 1:00 hours?

Too bad we can't use the second one to roadgeek since it's too dark :-D

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Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: NE2 on November 01, 2014, 10:05:07 AM
Yay, less traffic at sunrise.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: oscar on November 01, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
The famous "21 states in one day" exploit used the extra hour from the shift to standard time, plus another extra hour from changing time zones, to make the trip in a 26-hour day.  Both extra hours were needed to get to Mississippi just in time to make that state #21.

I also wonder when this forum's server makes the changeover, and whether you can post a reply with an earlier time stamp than the original post. 
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: hotdogPi on November 01, 2014, 10:14:01 PM
24-hour stores have to be closed for one hour (they're not 25-hour stores).
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: vtk on November 02, 2014, 05:18:41 AM
Quote from: oscar on November 01, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
I also wonder when this forum's server makes the changeover, and whether you can post a reply with an earlier time stamp than the original post.

I believe internally the forum uses Unix timestamps, so there is no changeover.  When those timestamps are converted to your local time zone for display, the forum must decide between (for example) EDT and EST; I'm not sure whether it uses the one currently in effect, or the one that was in effect at the time being referenced.  If the latter, you could have a reply that appears to predate the original message, but only for users in one time zone.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2014, 02:17:20 PM
It happened last week here :sombrero:. I had the forum time one hour ahead from my actual time for that week.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: vtk on November 02, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2014, 02:17:20 PM
It happened last week here :sombrero:. I had the forum time one hour ahead from my actual time for that week.

Ours would have been last week as well, but Trick Or Treat is big here and a few years ago people realized it's safer for the kids in daylight.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Laura on November 02, 2014, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: vtk on November 02, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on November 02, 2014, 02:17:20 PM
It happened last week here :sombrero:. I had the forum time one hour ahead from my actual time for that week.

Ours would have been last week as well, but Trick Or Treat is big here and a few years ago people realized it's safer for the kids in daylight.

Grumble grumble rant this annoys me still because the whole point of going treat-or-treating is that it is IN THE DARK. I've found that kids go out later and now don't have as long because a lot of neighborhoods enforce an 8pm "end time". rant grumble Grumble.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Roadrunner75 on November 02, 2014, 10:46:55 PM
When I was young it seemed that Trick or Treat went later (and darker).  Definitely safer for kids during the day/early evening, but it's a chore to get home from work for both of us during daylight to hand out treats as well as take our own little guy out.  Now, once it hits 7-7:30 it's absolutely dead until a handful of young punks show up without costumes around 8-8:30.

-Halloween Curmudgeon

Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 02, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
When we were all younger, there were different things to be scared of on Halloween than there are today.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Laura on November 03, 2014, 06:58:26 AM

Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 02, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
When we were all younger, there were different things to be scared of on Halloween than there are today.

Like what? Don't leave me hanging!


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Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: NE2 on November 03, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Like razor blades in apples. Oh wait, that's a hoax.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 03, 2014, 08:30:02 AM
One of the issues come about for those working those hours.  The NJ Turnpike would pay employees for 9 hours, since they work 1 extra hour.  In the spring, they still pay for an 8 hour shift when DST takes effect, even though one would have worked only 7 hours. 

Bars are open based on what the time should have been without a change (at least in Jersey), so you're not drinking an extra hour Sunday morning if the bars close at 2am or later.

A particular intersection in Trenton, NJ has a different light timing for rush hour vs. non-rush hour.  But the internal calendar was based on the old Daylight Savings Time.  So every year, for a week in the fall and a few weeks in the spring, the timing was off for an hour, and that hour can really foul up traffic for the rest of the rush hour.  Over the past week I didn't notice any issues though, so maybe they finally updated the controller with the new DST dates.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2014, 09:09:18 AM
One of the church bells around here usually remains off the correct hour anywhere from one to all months after the switch. 

Quote from: Laura on November 03, 2014, 06:58:26 AM

Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 02, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
When we were all younger, there were different things to be scared of on Halloween than there are today.

Like what? Don't leave me hanging!

Ghosts, witches, and high school kids.  Not as much sex offenders and whatnot as is the custom today.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Laura on November 03, 2014, 11:13:50 AM


Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2014, 09:09:18 AM
One of the church bells around here usually remains off the correct hour anywhere from one to all months after the switch. 

Quote from: Laura on November 03, 2014, 06:58:26 AM

Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 02, 2014, 11:02:58 PM
When we were all younger, there were different things to be scared of on Halloween than there are today.

Like what? Don't leave me hanging!

Ghosts, witches, and high school kids.  Not as much sex offenders and whatnot as is the custom today.

Lol, do NOT get me started down that rabbit trail. Ninety percent of sexual offenses are committed by someone the victim knows.

Quote from: NE2 on November 03, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Like razor blades in apples. Oh wait, that's a hoax.

Haha, don't worry, the media has moved onto other hoaxes, like the dangers of colored contact lenses and potheads giving out Mary Janes with Mary Jane in them.


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Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: vdeane on November 03, 2014, 01:08:19 PM
In the area where I grew up, you'd normally start seeing kids around 6:30, peak from 7-8, and then die down from 8 until 8:30 or 9.  While the volume has gone way down over the years, the trend is still largely the same as far as I know.

Didn't have any at my apartment.  Guess people didn't feel like going around the complex.

Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2014, 09:09:18 AM
Not as much sex offenders and whatnot as is the custom today.
Sex offenders were always around; they just have a ton of media hype these days.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: 02 Park Ave on November 03, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
The official hours for children to go aound in Cherry Hill NJ were 4:00 to 7:00.  They seemed to adhered to this year.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2014, 05:29:57 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 03, 2014, 01:08:19 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2014, 09:09:18 AM
Not as much sex offenders and whatnot as is the custom today.
Sex offenders were always around; they just have a ton of media hype these days.

Well, my point was that the source of public fear changes.  Whether it reflects a change in what there is to be feared is another story.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: SSOWorld on November 03, 2014, 05:57:29 PM
Source of public fear?

Politicians and the mass media.

That is all.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2014, 09:59:24 PM

Quote from: SSOWorld on November 03, 2014, 05:57:29 PM
Source of public fear?

Politicians and the mass media.

That is all.

And simple pronouncements that let an awful lot of culpable members of society off the hook. 
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: PHLBOS on November 04, 2014, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 03, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Like razor blades in apples. Oh wait, that's a hoax.
Funny, you should say that.  This past Halloween, both Towamencin Twp., Montgomery County PA (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/11/01/police-razor-blade-found-in-wrapped-candy-bar/) and Vineland, NJ (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/11/03/vineland-police-investigate-report-of-razor-blade-found-in-candy/) had incidents where trick-or-treaters found razor blades in some of their candy.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: NE2 on November 04, 2014, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 04, 2014, 04:05:10 PM
trick-or-treaters claimed to find razor blades in some of their candy.
Fixed for you.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: PHLBOS on November 05, 2014, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 04, 2014, 04:19:30 PMFixed for you.
Don't shoot the messenger, but...

Quote from: Towamencin Twp. linkTowamencin Township Police say the incident happened on Friday night after a young boy got home from trick-or-treating in area of Woodlawn Drive and Walnut Lane.
"A mother was with her child and saw him open up a piece of candy, and inside was a large razor blade,"  says Sergeant John Cutrone. "The wrapping appeared to be sealed."

FWIW

On-site news interview regarding the Towamencin Incident

Vineland Incident Update from NJ.com

Quote from: NJ.com Vineland Incident LinkA razor blade was found in a Tootsie Roll, according to Vineland Police Department.

The Tootsie Roll was collected in East Vineland, in the neighborhood near Spring Road and Pennsylvania Avenue.
Title: Re: Tonight is DO-OVER night
Post by: Laura on November 06, 2014, 11:46:27 PM

Quote from: PHLBOS on November 05, 2014, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 04, 2014, 04:19:30 PMFixed for you.
Don't shoot the messenger, but...

Quote from: Towamencin Twp. linkTowamencin Township Police say the incident happened on Friday night after a young boy got home from trick-or-treating in area of Woodlawn Drive and Walnut Lane.
"A mother was with her child and saw him open up a piece of candy, and inside was a large razor blade,"  says Sergeant John Cutrone. "The wrapping appeared to be sealed."

FWIW

On-site news interview regarding the Towamencin Incident

Vineland Incident Update from NJ.com

Quote from: NJ.com Vineland Incident LinkA razor blade was found in a Tootsie Roll, according to Vineland Police Department.

The Tootsie Roll was collected in East Vineland, in the neighborhood near Spring Road and Pennsylvania Avenue.

Right, now if this stuff happens, it's because of copycats. It's why suicides aren't mentioned in the nightly news. It's also why I believe we shouldn't give media attention to mass shootings.


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