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Title: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 10, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
I saw an exit where the pavement just deadended on a cloverleaf in Kansas i forget the exact exit # but it is in the 300s
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Bickendan on November 10, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
If I remember right, the MTR FAQ mentioned I-229's northern terminus (476th Ave) was an unpaved road.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: cl94 on November 10, 2014, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 10, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
If I remember right, the MTR FAQ mentioned I-229's northern terminus (476th Ave) **was** an unpaved road.

Paved in 2006 per Wikipedia. GSV shows it as such.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 10, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
I'm not sure if this is along the lines of what the OP is looking for, but there are plenty of exits where the interchange area is paved, but not beyond, such as here, exit 160 of I-70 in Green River, Utah.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fi2ujgj.png&hash=122d8828f898e4ea7ea6de8bbb01bd4956e2dbb4)
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
There are some tight folded diamonds out west where even the crossover/under is unpaved. Example: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.21553,-106.350157&spn=0.005483,0.012392&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=44.21553,-106.350157&panoid=iTNKmU44E2yFTqx3TPadkw&cbp=12,30.45,,0,0
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 10, 2014, 02:43:10 PM

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 10, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
I'm not sure if this is along the lines of what the OP is looking for, but there are plenty of exits where the interchange area is paved, but not beyond, such as here, exit 160 of I-70 in Green River, Utah.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fi2ujgj.png&hash=122d8828f898e4ea7ea6de8bbb01bd4956e2dbb4)

This the first thing I thought of.  IIRC these are signed "Ranch Exit."
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: DandyDan on November 10, 2014, 04:10:15 PM
I'm assuming what the OP is looking for is exits which lead to unpaved roads.  If so, the "County Road" exit on I-680 in Iowa going east between the Missouri River and I-29 is one of them.  There are several I'm aware of in both Iowa and Nebraska where one direction from the exit is unpaved (the direction that doesn't lead into town).
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 10, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 10, 2014, 02:43:10 PM
This the first thing I thought of.  IIRC these are signed "Ranch Exit."

Usually, yes. This one in particular, though, is signed I-70-BUS UT-19 Green River.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 10, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on November 10, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
I saw an exit where the pavement just deadended on a cloverleaf in Kansas i forget the exact exit # but it is in the 300s

Was it one of these?  I didn't see any clover leaf interchanges on I-70 in Kansas, but I did see these, with loop ramps, that exit to unpaved roads.

exit 311, 39.065764,-96.578497
exit 316, 39.066514,-96.501976
exit 318, 39.065948,-96.457779
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
Are there any public exits on Interstates where the ramps are unpaved? This one (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.21553,-106.350157&spn=0.005483,0.012392&t=k&z=17&layer=c&cbll=44.21553,-106.350157&panoid=iTNKmU44E2yFTqx3TPadkw&cbp=12,30.45,,0,0) in Wyoming comes close, but pavement extends to the cattle grate after the ramps converge. I'm thinking of something like this half diamond (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.452279,-81.030865&spn=0.026903,0.049567&gl=us&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.45229,-81.030665&panoid=YmDRb6H1j8QJFcbJLyQdwg&cbp=12,84.76,,0,3.3) on SR 528; although it serves a private road, the ramps are not posted as such.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: seicer on November 10, 2014, 04:41:57 PM
Exit 49 on I-75 essentially goes to KY 909 and a dirt forest road: http://goo.gl/maps/O4jJA
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 10, 2014, 05:24:39 PM
There is a public exit on I-70 in Kansas, i forgot the exact number, the exit ramp is paved until the ramp curves to go underneath. so maybe 1/4th of it is paved
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: GaryV on November 10, 2014, 06:24:57 PM
As I recall, Gotfredson Road was unpaved when M-14 opened (OK, not an Interstate, but a freeway).  I'm not sure where the pavement started or ended; I believe it was paved between both ramps and over the bridge, and the pavement ended shortly north and south of the ramps.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: SteveG1988 on November 10, 2014, 06:57:48 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Humboldt+Creek+Rd,+Kansas/@39.0656882,-96.5771956,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87bc3080b279ee1b:0x3dde0a22e68e3e1

Exit 311, it is due to a nature area.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: dfwmapper on November 10, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
I-10 has a bunch in the desert.

Exit 162 in California (signed as Frontage Road) is only paved enough to cross under the freeway, and otherwise serves dirt roads. Its primary function is to serve a natural gas compressor station, but there are other roads off of it that don't appear to be gated off. http://goo.gl/maps/QTZBC

Exit 182, Red Cloud Road, is unpaved except for the part linking the ramps. http://goo.gl/maps/bm1Av

Exit 5 in Arizona, Tom Wells Road, is only paved within the ROW and to serve the adjacent businesses before turning to dirt/gravel. http://goo.gl/maps/39wKr

Exit 26, Gold Nugget road, is only paved within the ROW. http://goo.gl/maps/JPlfI

Exit 53, Hovatter Road, is paved to the south towards the CAP Canal facility, but unpaved to the north towards Salome. http://goo.gl/maps/MYrWM

Exit 69, Ave 75E, is paved only within the ROW. http://goo.gl/maps/RTvWv
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: The Nature Boy on November 10, 2014, 11:03:54 PM
What used to be Exit 14 in Lumberton, North Carolina (onto what used to be US 74) was an unpaved dirt incline that locals would illegally use. It took the NC DOT awhile to finally block it off.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: 1995hoo on November 11, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
.... I'm thinking of something like this half diamond (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.452279,-81.030865&spn=0.026903,0.049567&gl=us&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.45229,-81.030665&panoid=YmDRb6H1j8QJFcbJLyQdwg&cbp=12,84.76,,0,3.3) on SR 528; although it serves a private road, the ramps are not posted as such.

I always wondered what those ramps were for. I assumed the cops used them for running radar, though I've never actually seen a cop there.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: NE2 on November 11, 2014, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 11, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
.... I'm thinking of something like this half diamond (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.452279,-81.030865&spn=0.026903,0.049567&gl=us&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.45229,-81.030665&panoid=YmDRb6H1j8QJFcbJLyQdwg&cbp=12,84.76,,0,3.3) on SR 528; although it serves a private road, the ramps are not posted as such.

I always wondered what those ramps were for.
Probably part of the agreement to build the road back in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Brandon on November 11, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 11, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
.... I'm thinking of something like this half diamond (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.452279,-81.030865&spn=0.026903,0.049567&gl=us&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.45229,-81.030665&panoid=YmDRb6H1j8QJFcbJLyQdwg&cbp=12,84.76,,0,3.3) on SR 528; although it serves a private road, the ramps are not posted as such.

I always wondered what those ramps were for. I assumed the cops used them for running radar, though I've never actually seen a cop there.

Might be for a maintenance crossover.  It's a hell of a lot safer than cutting through the median.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: NE2 on November 11, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 11, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 11, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
.... I'm thinking of something like this half diamond (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.452279,-81.030865&spn=0.026903,0.049567&gl=us&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.45229,-81.030665&panoid=YmDRb6H1j8QJFcbJLyQdwg&cbp=12,84.76,,0,3.3) on SR 528; although it serves a private road, the ramps are not posted as such.

I always wondered what those ramps were for. I assumed the cops used them for running radar, though I've never actually seen a cop there.

Might be for a maintenance crossover.  It's a hell of a lot safer than cutting through the median.

Nope, it clearly serves private property on both sides of the road.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Bickendan on November 11, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 10, 2014, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 10, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
If I remember right, the MTR FAQ mentioned I-229's northern terminus (476th Ave) **was** an unpaved road.

Paved in 2006 per Wikipedia. GSV shows it as such.
Hence my use of past tense...
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: SD Mapman on November 11, 2014, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 11, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on November 10, 2014, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on November 10, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
If I remember right, the MTR FAQ mentioned I-229's northern terminus (476th Ave) **was** an unpaved road.
Hence my use of past tense...
Paved in 2006 per Wikipedia. GSV shows it as such.
That's growth for ya.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: seicer on November 11, 2014, 03:36:56 PM
I would say Alaska's Interstate 1 has several (http://goo.gl/maps/ufdr3), but they are freshly paved in the streetview. Perhaps it's winter grime and salt?
Title: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: formulanone on November 11, 2014, 05:12:13 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 11, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 11, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 11, 2014, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
.... I'm thinking of something like this half diamond (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.452279,-81.030865&spn=0.026903,0.049567&gl=us&t=k&z=15&layer=c&cbll=28.45229,-81.030665&panoid=YmDRb6H1j8QJFcbJLyQdwg&cbp=12,84.76,,0,3.3) on SR 528; although it serves a private road, the ramps are not posted as such.

I always wondered what those ramps were for. I assumed the cops used them for running radar, though I've never actually seen a cop there.

Might be for a maintenance crossover.  It's a hell of a lot safer than cutting through the median.

Nope, it clearly serves private property on both sides of the road.

There used to be large-ish signs denoting two of FL 528's exits as "Private Road", with no other advance warning signs. I think one serves a ranch and the other is for a prison. Last I'd driven that route was back in '96, I'm working on hazy memory, at best.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: NE2 on November 11, 2014, 05:17:01 PM
Nah, the prison is ICP Boulevard, which now connects to Alafaya.
There was formerly a third private interchange just east of SR 417, west of the toll plaza (the retention ponds show the shape), and Dallas Boulevard was also one.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Roadrunner75 on November 11, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Runaway truck ramps.   :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 11, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on November 11, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Runaway truck ramps.   :sombrero:

You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: dfwmapper on November 12, 2014, 12:03:12 AM
Pretty sure it's illegal to drive on a runaway truck ramp if you're not actually in a runaway vehicle. Can't count those. Bureaucrat, you are hereby demoted.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: SD Mapman on November 12, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on November 11, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Runaway truck ramps.   :sombrero:

Pardon my ignorance, but where are any of these on interstates? The only ones I've seen have been on non-interstates (but then I'm not really familiar with mountainous interstates)
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: adventurernumber1 on November 12, 2014, 12:26:47 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on November 12, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on November 11, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Runaway truck ramps.   :sombrero:

Pardon my ignorance, but where are any of these on interstates? The only ones I've seen have been on non-interstates (but then I'm not really familiar with mountainous interstates)

There are some runaway truck ramps on I-24 near Monteagle, TN, where the two bounds split going down the plateau.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: dfwmapper on November 12, 2014, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on November 12, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but where are any of these on interstates? The only ones I've seen have been on non-interstates (but then I'm not really familiar with mountainous interstates)
Arizona has a pair on I-17 headed into the Verde Valley.
Northbound (http://goo.gl/maps/7UNZL)
Southbound (http://goo.gl/maps/lL7PR)
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: spooky on November 12, 2014, 06:58:45 AM
There is a runaway truck ramp on the Mass Pike (I-90) EB approaching the bridge over the Westfield River. This is near the end of the 30-mile gap between Exits 2 and 3, where the Turnpike climbs to 1,724 ft (highest point on I-90 until Oacama, SD)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1576445,-72.8169999,1031m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 12, 2014, 09:12:26 AM

Quote from: spooky on November 12, 2014, 06:58:45 AM
There is a runaway truck ramp on the Mass Pike (I-90) EB approaching the bridge over the Westfield River. This is near the end of the 30-mile gap between Exits 2 and 3, where the Turnpike climbs to 1,724 ft (highest point on I-90 until Oacama, SD)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1576445,-72.8169999,1031m/data=!3m1!1e3

I knew there was a really familiar one I couldn't think of.

I haven't driven that stretch in a couple of years, but I believe the Turnpike runs almost continuously downhill for something like six miles from that highest point. 

I'm curious a) if the ramp was installed proactively or reactively, and b) how much use it's seen. 
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: spooky on November 12, 2014, 09:35:10 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 12, 2014, 09:12:26 AM

Quote from: spooky on November 12, 2014, 06:58:45 AM
There is a runaway truck ramp on the Mass Pike (I-90) EB approaching the bridge over the Westfield River. This is near the end of the 30-mile gap between Exits 2 and 3, where the Turnpike climbs to 1,724 ft (highest point on I-90 until Oacama, SD)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1576445,-72.8169999,1031m/data=!3m1!1e3

I knew there was a really familiar one I couldn't think of.

I haven't driven that stretch in a couple of years, but I believe the Turnpike runs almost continuously downhill for something like six miles from that highest point. 

I'm curious a) if the ramp was installed proactively or reactively, and b) how much use it's seen. 

I drove this route around 10-15 times per year for most of the 90s, and I can tell you that it was rare that there were fresh looking tracks - maybe once or twice the entire time.

I can also attest to the downhill nature of the Turnpike in that area, based on a ticket for going 80 in a 55 in a 1980 Pontiac Sunbird that had no business going 80 mph. (This was approximately 10 days before the speed limit increased to 65)
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Roadrunner75 on November 12, 2014, 10:07:15 AM
Here's one on I-176 approaching the PA Turnpike entrance south of Reading:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.167482,-75.886023&spn=0.000008,0.005611&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.167504,-75.887167&panoid=FbQDZP2ZTqCFfSZgmKzJJA&cbp=12,131.78,,0,1.25 (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.167482,-75.886023&spn=0.000008,0.005611&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=40.167504,-75.887167&panoid=FbQDZP2ZTqCFfSZgmKzJJA&cbp=12,131.78,,0,1.25)
Also one along I-68 here:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.710113,-78.305743&spn=0.000004,0.002806&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.710179,-78.305665&panoid=OcsDGfAlz0KxL7XChVAEQg&cbp=12,245.82,,0,-3.44 (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.710113,-78.305743&spn=0.000004,0.002806&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.710179,-78.305665&panoid=OcsDGfAlz0KxL7XChVAEQg&cbp=12,245.82,,0,-3.44)


Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: cl94 on November 12, 2014, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on November 12, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on November 11, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Runaway truck ramps.   :sombrero:

Pardon my ignorance, but where are any of these on interstates? The only ones I've seen have been on non-interstates (but then I'm not really familiar with mountainous interstates)

There are two on the SB side of I-77 in Virginia south of Exit 8. Other than those and the aforementioned ones, they're much more common out west where steep grades are unavoidable and in TN/NC. IMO, New York should have some on I-87 in the Adirondacks and NY 17/Future I-86 near Wurtsboro given conditions and the amount of accidents, but that's probably asking too much.

Off Interstates, there's one on MA 2 just east of the NY border, one on NY 28 south of Herkimer, and a couple pretty well-known ones on US 219 near Ridgway (including on the truck lane), but even those are rare in the mountainous parts of the northeast.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: Mr_Northside on November 12, 2014, 11:56:59 AM
I-376 has one descending down Greentree hill towards the Ft. Pitt Tunnels

Of course, I also wouldn't count runaway truck ramps, mostly cause, while they split from the primary carriageway, they don't really exit to anywhere (at least everyone I've seen).
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: hbelkins on November 12, 2014, 01:10:30 PM
I-26 after crossing the Tennessee state line in North Carolina. Can't remember if there's one on the Tennessee side or not.

I-64 east of Beckley descending the mountain down to the New River.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: seicer on November 12, 2014, 02:08:37 PM
VA I-64, Exit 1 for Jerry's Run Road is gravel and dirt: http://goo.gl/maps/vjRad
VA I-64, Exit 43 goes to a gravel road to the south: http://goo.gl/maps/poIrj
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: bassoon1986 on November 12, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
Exit 169 on I-49 in Louisiana leads to unpaved Asseff Rd.

Exit 132 on I-49 used to be going east on LA 478, but it is now paved.

On I-10 in Louisiana:
Exit 121 for Butte La Rose going northbound turns to dirt or gravel
Exit 127 for Whiskey Bay you can see the (fuzzy) state highway shield past the pavement: https://www.google.com/maps/@30.368317,-91.635014,3a,75y,348.96h,77.91t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sg5GJIBHtTp-aC1BRlNQ99g!2e0
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: myosh_tino on November 13, 2014, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on November 12, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on November 11, 2014, 06:09:35 PM
Runaway truck ramps.   :sombrero:

Pardon my ignorance, but where are any of these on interstates? The only ones I've seen have been on non-interstates (but then I'm not really familiar with mountainous interstates)

In California...

* I-80 westbound near Alta --- http://goo.gl/maps/mU5YL
* I-5 northbound at the Grapevine --- http://goo.gl/maps/o2LWq and http://goo.gl/maps/3VhZV
* I-15 eastbound at Mtn Pass --- http://goo.gl/maps/8cIGb

There are probably more in California but these are the ones I have personally seen.
Title: Re: Unpaved Exits on interstates
Post by: GCrites on November 14, 2014, 07:38:08 PM
jeez guys