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Title: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: Mapmikey on November 18, 2014, 12:38:01 PM

Both the Columbia Pike and Crystal City Streetcar endeavors are cancelled...

Wonder if VDOT will re-establish VA 244 over the portions of Columbia Pike that were going to have the streetcars...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/arlington-officials-major-announcement-on-columbia-pike-streetcar-project-at-noon/2014/11/18/ce2a8170-6f38-11e4-8808-afaa1e3a33ef_story.html?wpisrc=al_locmisc

The decision appears to be directly related to the results of the recent County Board election where an anti-streetcar candidate running on that issue won and the pro-streetcar candidate lost.

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: oscar on November 18, 2014, 12:59:21 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on November 18, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
Wonder if VDOT will re-establish VA 244 over the portions of Columbia Pike that were going to have the streetcars...

VA 244 is still well-signed at the interchange with VA 27, even with the ongoing reconstruction there.  The streetcar would've run through that interchange on Columbia Pike. 

I might comment on the streetcar project cancellation in the separate thread over at "Mass Transit". 
Title: Re: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 18, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Two threads going on about this.  Merge?
Title: Re: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: oscar on November 18, 2014, 02:02:13 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 18, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Two threads going on about this.  Merge?

Since this one focuses on the impact on roads, I think that's unnecessary, so long as the transit discussion stays in the other thread.
Title: Re: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on November 18, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
Was the truncation of VA 244 contingent on the construction of the streetcar line?
Title: Re: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: cpzilliacus on November 18, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 18, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
Was the truncation of VA 244 contingent on the construction of the streetcar line?

It was related (as I understand it). 

I speculate that VDOT did not want to maintain a highway that also had rails for a street railway embedded in it.

As others (Mapmikey?) pointed out a while back, the far east section (Between Va. 27 (Washington Boulevard) and Va. 27 near the Pentagon is still state-maintained, as is the western part in Fairfax County. 
Title: Re: Arlington Streetcar Project Cancelled
Post by: Mapmikey on November 18, 2014, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 18, 2014, 03:11:16 PM


As others (Mapmikey?) pointed out a while, the far east section (Between Va. 27 (Washington Boulevard) and Va. 27 near the Pentagon is still state-maintained, as is the western part in Fairfax County. 

This is correct.  The traffic logs show 0.37 miles of VA 244 existing from VA 27 Pentagon Rd westward.

Mapmikey