EXCLUDING 3-digit interstates, what are some examples of interstates that have very low mileage in a particular state? For this thread, I'll define low mileage as being under 30 miles.
A few that come to mind
I-15 in Arizona (29 miles)
I-70 in West Virginia (14 miles)
I-82 in Oregon (11 miles)
I-72 in Missouri (2 miles)
I know there are more, but these come to mind right away.
I-95 in DC
I-24 in Georgia
I-55 in Tennessee
I-59 in both Georgia and Louisiana
I-76 in New Jersey (3 miles I think?)
I-97 in Maryland
Here's a crib sheet, updated through December 31, 2013:
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/reports/routefinder/table1.cfm
I-44 in Texas
I-41 in Illinois once it becomes an interstate
I-74 in Iowa
QuoteI-97 in Maryland
Ha! That's a great one.
Quote from: mvak36 on December 05, 2014, 11:14:47 AM
I-41 in Illinois once it becomes an interstate
Am I the only one who finds this idea for renaming US41 (but only a select portion of it) I-41 preposterous? Are they planning to do the same thing with US31 in Indiana?
Ah! Another I just thought of.
I-76 has about 2 1/2 miles in Nebraska.
Another dimension you could add is "Interstates which barely serve residents of states they run through" , and the two I-86 segments in Pennsylvania score on both counts.
I-66 in DC (not a state, but for this purpose it's close enough)
QuoteAm I the only one who finds this idea for renaming US41 (but only a select portion of it) I-41 preposterous? Are they planning to do the same thing with US31 in Indiana?
Yeah, it's a bit unnecessary, IMO. Kind of similar to I-39 being routed north, when US-51 was doing the job just fine.
Not all freeways need a blue shield on em.
84 in Mass
93 in Vermont
95 in New Hampshire
95 in Delaware
68 in West Virginia (31.5 miles—I cheated)
I-81 in Maryland (and West Virginia)
Once/if I-49 gets built in Texas, it'll be about 5 miles.
one could qualify I-95 in NY if it didn't serve enough cities ;)
Quote from: Fred Defender on December 05, 2014, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: mvak36 on December 05, 2014, 11:14:47 AM
I-41 in Illinois once it becomes an interstate
Am I the only one who finds this idea for renaming US41 (but only a select portion of it) I-41 preposterous? Are they planning to do the same thing with US31 in Indiana?
How about US41(I) instead?
Assuming that a letter suffix is not a "digit", I-69W (1.4 miles).
I-57 in Missouri
QuoteNot all freeways need a blue shield on em.
Yes they do! :spin:
Quote from: cl94 on December 05, 2014, 03:20:36 PM
I-70 in West Virginia
I-59 in Louisiana
I-24 in Illinois and Kentucky
Huh? I-24 runs about 37 in IL and 94 miles in KY. The OP restricted the list to 30 miles in a state. I-70 in WV was already mentioned.
I-74 in Iowa.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
84 in Mass
93 in Vermont
95 in New Hampshire
95 in Delaware
68 in West Virginia (31.5 miles—I cheated)
True the milage is short on each of these. But Delaware is well served by I-95. Delaware is tiny
Quote from: OCGuy81 on December 05, 2014, 11:41:16 AM
QuoteAm I the only one who finds this idea for renaming US41 (but only a select portion of it) I-41 preposterous? Are they planning to do the same thing with US31 in Indiana?
Yeah, it's a bit unnecessary, IMO. Kind of similar to I-39 being routed north, when US-51 was doing the job just fine.
Not all freeways need a blue shield on em.
I have had the thought that a freeway us highway should be a blue shield like the classic FL US 90 shield. It would let the driver know its a freeway, but it would probably be only those of us on here that would know what the blue shield means
Quote from: WashuOtaku on December 05, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on December 05, 2014, 10:57:13 AM
I-95 in DC
Red flag on the field, DC isn't a state.
It is not a state true but for this question it functions as a quasi- state. A city-state if you will. We could get all technical and exclude MA,PA,VA &KY since they are officially commonwealths
Quote from: jwolfer on December 05, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
It is not a state true but for this question it functions as a quasi- state. A city-state if you will. We could get all technical and exclude MA,PA,VA &KY since they are officially commonwealths
No, they're commonwealths that are states. Your attempt to out-anal the anal fails.
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on December 05, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
It is not a state true but for this question it functions as a quasi- state. A city-state if you will. We could get all technical and exclude MA,PA,VA &KY since they are officially commonwealths
No, they're commonwealths that are states. Your attempt to out-anal the anal fails.
They are admitted as states unlike Puerto Rico which is a commonwealth but not admitted as a state. I wonder why they don't call PR an associated free state a direct translation from the Spanish. DC was given by MD ( and VA) and VA got their part back, will MD ever want theirs back
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on December 05, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
It is not a state true but for this question it functions as a quasi- state. A city-state if you will. We could get all technical and exclude MA,PA,VA &KY since they are officially commonwealths
No, they're commonwealths that are states. Your attempt to out-anal the anal fails.
It's the opposite–they are states that call themselves commonwealths. The term has no legal significance in their case, whereas in the cases of Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands it does.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 05, 2014, 10:09:14 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on December 05, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
It is not a state true but for this question it functions as a quasi- state. A city-state if you will. We could get all technical and exclude MA,PA,VA &KY since they are officially commonwealths
No, they're commonwealths that are states. Your attempt to out-anal the anal fails.
It's the opposite–they are states that call themselves commonwealths. The term has no legal significance in their case, whereas in the cases of Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands it does.
For PR. Estado libre associado is the official term
Ummmm... I-73 everywhere? ;)
And did anyone mention I-59 in Georgia?
How about I-76 in Nebraska?
Several 3dis that serve border towns would probably qualify for this as well, though that probably goes against the spirit of this thread.
Here are two near misses: ALMOST I-44 in Kansas and ALMOST I-65 in Florida.
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on December 05, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
It is not a state true but for this question it functions as a quasi- state. A city-state if you will. We could get all technical and exclude MA,PA,VA &KY since they are officially commonwealths
No, they're commonwealths that are states. Your attempt to out-anal the anal fails.
I-95 does run through the City-State of DC, but DC does not maintain any section of it, it is VA/MD maintained. SO therefore it is a MD/VA interstate there, not a DC interstate.
I-78 in NY if you consider it entering the city or not.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 05, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
I-95 does run through the City-State of DC, but DC does not maintain any section of it, it is VA/MD maintained. SO therefore it is a MD/VA interstate there, not a DC interstate.
I-78 in NY if you consider it entering the city or not.
Uh dude, I-78 in NY is maintained by PANYNJ. So by your rules it doesn't enter NY.
Quote from: Zzonkmiles on December 05, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
Here are two near misses: ALMOST I-44 in Kansas and ALMOST I-65 in Florida.
Almost I-84 in New Jersey too. Just barely misses the border... That would probably amount to less than a mile in New Jersey if it actually crossed it.
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 05, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
I-95 does run through the City-State of DC, but DC does not maintain any section of it, it is VA/MD maintained. SO therefore it is a MD/VA interstate there, not a DC interstate.
I-78 in NY if you consider it entering the city or not.
Uh dude, I-78 in NY is maintained by PANYNJ. So by your rules it doesn't enter NY.
Well, I would count I-95 in DC if DC also pitched in to maintain it. as I-78 uses a Bi-State agency funded tunnel, it counts since NY and NJ both take claim on the tunnel, DC doesn't claim that section of the bridge.
Additional...
According to Wikipedia, and it is referencing Scot Kozel's website when it says this for the source:
" The District of Columbia, a jurisdiction that once had ownership rights to the 1961 Wilson Bridge span, relinquished future ownership rights and responsibility for the new bridge. Additionally, the District granted a permanent easement to Maryland and Virginia for the portion of the bridge located within its boundaries."
Basically, DC doesn't want the bridge to be theirs any more.
http://www.roadstothefuture.com/Woodrow_Wilson_Bridge.html
I-74 in Ohio
I-82 in Oregon
I-59 in Louisiana
I-26 in Tennessee
I-75 in West Virginia and Maryland
I-90 in Pennsylvania
Quote from: jwolfer on December 05, 2014, 08:35:05 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on December 05, 2014, 11:41:16 AM
QuoteAm I the only one who finds this idea for renaming US41 (but only a select portion of it) I-41 preposterous? Are they planning to do the same thing with US31 in Indiana?
Yeah, it's a bit unnecessary, IMO. Kind of similar to I-39 being routed north, when US-51 was doing the job just fine.
Not all freeways need a blue shield on em.
I have had the thought that a freeway us highway should be a blue shield like the classic FL US 90 shield. It would let the driver know its a freeway, but it would probably be only those of us on here that would know what the blue shield means
Are different shield colors needed? Practically all road maps show freeways with a different color and/or weight of line than nonfreeways.
I-535 in Wisconsin
Quote from: rarnold on December 06, 2014, 11:13:31 AM
I-75 in West Virginia and Maryland
lol wut
Perhaps you mean I-81?
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 05, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
I-95 does run through the City-State of DC, but DC does not maintain any section of it, it is VA/MD maintained. SO therefore it is a MD/VA interstate there, not a DC interstate.
I-78 in NY if you consider it entering the city or not.
It does, every bit as much as I-95 runs through DC. And yes, similarly to DC, it's maintained by something other than the "state" in which it's situated (in I-95's case, by another state; in I-78's, by a bi-state agency).
Probably on the aforementioned cheat sheet, but I-275 in Indiana.
I'd have to throw the flag on I-90 in PA. It's somewhere in the neighborhood of 45 miles in length and is a major thoroughfare. And with nearly half of it under a urban 55 MPH zone in the Erie Metropolitan Area (!?!?) and nearly another 1/2 of it seemingly under construction every year, it seems like an eternity driving through there.
A better choice is both sections of I-86 in PA as being barely in the state.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 06, 2014, 12:40:59 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 05, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
I-95 does run through the City-State of DC, but DC does not maintain any section of it, it is VA/MD maintained. SO therefore it is a MD/VA interstate there, not a DC interstate.
I-78 in NY if you consider it entering the city or not.
Uh dude, I-78 in NY is maintained by PANYNJ. So by your rules it doesn't enter NY.
Well, I would count I-95 in DC if DC also pitched in to maintain it. as I-78 uses a Bi-State agency funded tunnel, it counts since NY and NJ both take claim on the tunnel, DC doesn't claim that section of the bridge.
Additional...
According to Wikipedia, and it is referencing Scot Kozel's website when it says this for the source:
" The District of Columbia, a jurisdiction that once had ownership rights to the 1961 Wilson Bridge span, relinquished future ownership rights and responsibility for the new bridge. Additionally, the District granted a permanent easement to Maryland and Virginia for the portion of the bridge located within its boundaries."
Basically, DC doesn't want the bridge to be theirs any more.
http://www.roadstothefuture.com/Woodrow_Wilson_Bridge.html
Who cares who maintained it? The bridge crosses the district just as I-78 enters NY.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
95 in Delaware
Um, I beg to differ. I-95 is a major roadway for the northern part of the state.
Quote from: Alex4897 on December 06, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
95 in Delaware
Um, I beg to differ. I-95 is a major roadway for the northern part of the state.
When the topic is stupidly defined, you get answers like this.
I-99 in New York.
Quote from: Alex4897 on December 06, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
95 in Delaware
Um, I beg to differ. I-95 is a major roadway for the northern part of the state.
Well, besides which, it comprises the majority of Interstate mileage in the state. Hardly what you'd call "barely part of [the] state's system".
It appears that at some point the topic changed to "interstates with less than 30 miles in a state".
Quote from: Zzonkmiles on December 05, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
Ummmm... I-73 everywhere? ;)
And did anyone mention I-59 in Georgia?
How about I-76 in Nebraska?
Several 3dis that serve border towns would probably qualify for this as well, though that probably goes against the spirit of this thread.
Here are two near misses: ALMOST I-44 in Kansas and ALMOST I-65 in Florida.
Interstate 73 is 82 miles in NC (and counting).
Did anyone mention Interstate 2?
Quote from: vdeane on December 08, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
It appears that at some point the topic changed to "interstates with less than 30 miles in a state".
That probably occurred in the original post:
QuoteEXCLUDING 3-digit interstates, what are some examples of interstates that have very low mileage in a particular state? For this thread, I'll define low mileage as being under 30 miles.
:bigass:
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 08, 2014, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 08, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
It appears that at some point the topic changed to "interstates with less than 30 miles in a state".
That probably occurred in the original post:
QuoteEXCLUDING 3-digit interstates, what are some examples of interstates that have very low mileage in a particular state? For this thread, I'll define low mileage as being under 30 miles.
:bigass:
Yep. Stupid criteria make for a stupid thread.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 08, 2014, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 08, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
It appears that at some point the topic changed to "interstates with less than 30 miles in a state".
That probably occurred in the original post:
QuoteEXCLUDING 3-digit interstates, what are some examples of interstates that have very low mileage in a particular state? For this thread, I'll define low mileage as being under 30 miles.
:bigass:
I was going to call it out earlier but I'm new.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 08, 2014, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 08, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
It appears that at some point the topic changed to "interstates with less than 30 miles in a state".
That probably occurred in the original post:
QuoteEXCLUDING 3-digit interstates, what are some examples of interstates that have very low mileage in a particular state? For this thread, I'll define low mileage as being under 30 miles.
:bigass:
To preserve the spirit of the thread, it would probably be best to ignore the OP's definition. It's not useful when you consider geography. We actually got interesting/useful replies in the beginning, but sometime after that, people started taking the definition literally and the point of the thread went down the drain. If you want to ACTUALLY answer the prompt in the thread's title, you have to take into account the corridor the interstate serves and the length/geography of the system in the state. The OP's low mileage definition includes I-95 in NY, for example, but to claim that I-95 is "barely a part of NY's interstate system" is to be bat**** crazy.
Sorry all, reading my post now that was a bit confusing. I was going for Interstates that just enter a state briefly (less than 30 miles) but see now my title is a bit misleading.
I was going for low mileage in a given state. :-/ But I guess this is an open forum, and all the responses have been great so far.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on December 09, 2014, 01:01:37 PM
Sorry all, reading my post now that was a bit confusing. I was going for Interstates that just enter a state briefly (less than 30 miles) but see now my title is a bit misleading.
So you were going for a topic that includes I-97 and I-95 DE? Then, as someone already pointed out, http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/reports/routefinder/table1.cfm is all you need. Mods, please lock this thread.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
84 in Mass
95 in New Hampshire
95 in Delaware
All three of these are poor examples. Each one of these interstates is well-used by residents of their respective states and by visitors to those states. I-84 connects CT, NY and points southwest with the Boston area; I-95 through Delaware and New Hampshire passes by decent sized cities in each state and is very heavily used. You may recall that I-95 in NH is actually called the New Hampshire Turnpike and is an integral part of that state's highway system. That it's only a few miles long in NH is immaterial in that those few miles are very important to anyone Granite Stater who lives in the Seacoast region.
This thread has gotten somewhat out of control. The OP's question would pertain to those forgotten little ends of interstates that sneak into a state and are barely used (nor remembered) by that state's residents. Such as the tiny piece of I-24 that crosses into Georgia near Chattanooga.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 09, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
The OP's question would pertain to those forgotten little ends of interstates that sneak into a state and are barely used (nor remembered) by that state's residents.
No, the OP clearly asked the stupid question about less-than-30 mile segments.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 09, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
84 in Mass
95 in New Hampshire
95 in Delaware
All three of these are poor examples. Each one of these interstates is well-used by residents of their respective states and by visitors to those states. I-84 connects CT, NY and points southwest with the Boston area; I-95 through Delaware and New Hampshire passes by decent sized cities in each state and is very heavily used. You may recall that I-95 in NH is actually called the New Hampshire Turnpike and is an integral part of that state's highway system. That it's only a few miles long in NH is immaterial in that those few miles are very important to anyone Granite Stater who lives in the Seacoast region.
There was never even the implication of any question of a road's importance or level of use. "That it's only a few miles long in NH is immaterial" is actually quite false under any reading of the original post.
I get what you're saying, I just don't get where you're getting it from, because the original post was pretty clear.
He's probably getting it from the thread's title. The thread might work better as "2dis with Short Mileages in a State" or something.
I-44 in Texas
I- 86 in Idaho (the entire length of the western section)
I -76 in Nebraska (this could be the shortest, about one mile)
Quote from: sandiaman on December 10, 2014, 05:10:43 PM
I-44 in Texas
I- 86 in Idaho (the entire length of the western section)
I -76 in Nebraska (this could be the shortest, about one mile)
I-86 in Idaho is an important east-west connection that, due to historical vagaries (read: formerly suffixed routes) ended up with its own number. I-76 in Nebraska is another important connection, that just happens to start a mile into another state before continuing in its primary state.
I-44 in Texas is indeed quite meandering without too much discernible purpose.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 10, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 09, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 05, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
84 in Mass
95 in New Hampshire
95 in Delaware
All three of these are poor examples. Each one of these interstates is well-used by residents of their respective states and by visitors to those states. I-84 connects CT, NY and points southwest with the Boston area; I-95 through Delaware and New Hampshire passes by decent sized cities in each state and is very heavily used. You may recall that I-95 in NH is actually called the New Hampshire Turnpike and is an integral part of that state's highway system. That it's only a few miles long in NH is immaterial in that those few miles are very important to anyone Granite Stater who lives in the Seacoast region.
There was never even the implication of any question of a road's importance or level of use. "That it's only a few miles long in NH is immaterial" is actually quite false under any reading of the original post.
I get what you're saying, I just don't get where you're getting it from, because the original post was pretty clear.
Yes, definitely from the thread title. Which brings up an etiquette question, possibly for the mods: When there is a discrepancy, should the topic header or the OP itself take precedence?
Hmmmm, I think I was one of the posters who listed I-95 in NH. After thinking about it, even though an interstate might not have a lot of miles in a state, it could still be the most major interstate in said state. So yeah, sorry for I-99ing over part of this thread with that non-contribution, errr nontribution. :pan: