I was wondering, I would like to know examples of particular sections of U.S. Routes that are maintained by local DOTs (such as those of a city or county), rather than a state DOT.
U.S. 9 in NYC (which carries Broadway) is maintained by NYCDOT, rather than NYSDOT as far as I know. Also, a few years ago ADOT considered transferring the responsibility of Grand Avenue (U.S. 60) to the local DOTs along the corridor, but this never happened due to unanimous opposition by the cities and Maricopa County.
Most surface street US (and NY) routes within a city for NY. A couple examples would be US 11 in Syracuse or a piece of US 4 in Mechanicville (though US 4 in Mechanicville is odd as most of it is actually maintained by NYSDOT). Also US 9 and US 20 in Albany. They're all over in NY!
Every US route in Vermont has at least one section, within select towns and cities, that is at least partially maintained by the town or city. We call them Class 1 Town Highways (and there are several state highway segments that are the same), and they're basically a joint-responsibility. The towns/cities are responsible for basic maintenance, snow plowing, and white line striping. VTrans is responsible for paving and yellow centerline striping. Technically the town/city is responsible for signage, though they can request assistance from VTrans.
Technically, all state highways in Wisconsin (state and U.S.) are locally maintained. WisDOT handles the normal construction/reconstruction projects, but normal maintenance like snowplowing, mowing, and guardrail repair is done by the counties then reimbursed by WisDOT.
In Mississippi, there are a few sections of US 11, US 49W, US 51, and US 278 that are locally maintained.
From what I recall, US 206 is maintained by both the City of Trenton and the Township of Hamilton instead of NJDOT. US 1, which passes through Trenton, is under NJDOT jurisdiction still.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on December 15, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
I was wondering, I would like to know examples of particular sections of U.S. Routes that are maintained by local DOTs (such as those of a city or county), rather than a state DOT.
A portion of US 322 in Gloucester County, NJ is maintained by the county.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 15, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
A portion of US 322 in Gloucester County, NJ is maintained by the county.
Between the Turnpike and NJ 55, according to the SLD. It's also CR 536 in this area.
Another rare rural/suburban example: US 202 in north Jersey (north of NJ 53) has always been county maintained outside the NJ 23 overlap and interchanges with other routes. It's even cosigned with CR 91 in Bergen County.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fnj%2Fus_202%2Fn91.jpg&hash=7bba841de5ee5d94abb69d1bddc2b8a3a800cfe2)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/us_202/1.html
How's about US 191 north of US 160 in Arizona, maintained by the Navajos as BIA 12 to US 191
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corcohighways.org%2Fhighways%2Faz%2F160%2F191to191%2F6.jpg&hash=211084e8e451587936454cb9157585d6d46f4805)
And the reassurance shield at the turn
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corcohighways.org%2Fhighways%2Faz%2F191%2F160tout%2F1.jpg&hash=e5bf77d7238da6b0fdcb2328efe8bebbe405f75f)
Corco - yeah that made me wonder if US 191 ended at the UT line myself when I went south on it.
Quote from: froggie on December 15, 2014, 02:39:47 PM
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Technically, all state highways in Wisconsin (state and U.S.) are locally maintained. WisDOT handles the normal construction/reconstruction projects, but normal maintenance like snowplowing, mowing, and guardrail repair is done by the counties then reimbursed by WisDOT.
/snip...
Generally - this this true for most states. :eyebrow: The exceptions (scientfic wild-ass guess) would be toll road authorities for obvious reasons. Perhaps the question would be better serve what US route
isn't locally maintained? and Froggie named his already.
Illinois is pretty much a hit-and-miss situation. Each district has its own methods and policies. The only grandiose exception is in Chicago - where the only thing IDOT (in this case District 1) touches is the Interstates - except the Skyway - again for obvious reasons. (CDOT maintains Lake Shore Drive)
Would you consider a bi-state agency to be a local DOT? if so, then we can add US1,22,46,206,30,40,322 over the delaware river
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 15, 2014, 04:30:06 PM
Would you consider a bi-state agency to be a local DOT?
No. I also wouldn't consider the National Park Service or BIA/specific tribe, but those are still abnormal cases. Bi-state agencies usually merely maintain bridges and approaches.
By the way, the locally-maintained Interstates are I-83 in Baltimore, a bit of I-278 in NYC, and that might be all. (I-678 in JFK Airport is apparently PANYNJ-maintained, and since it's not a bridge approach it may count.)
Quote from: NE2 on December 15, 2014, 04:36:41 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 15, 2014, 04:30:06 PM
Would you consider a bi-state agency to be a local DOT?
No. I also wouldn't consider the National Park Service or BIA/specific tribe, but those are still abnormal cases. Bi-state agencies usually merely maintain bridges and approaches.
By the way, the locally-maintained Interstates are I-83 in Baltimore, a bit of I-278 in NYC, and that might be all. (I-678 in JFK Airport is apparently PANYNJ-maintained, and since it's not a bridge approach it may count.)
Falls into what I believe to be a toll authority (don't quote me on it :) ) again - for obvious reasons. I agree with the National Park Service - as most of them are not even marked! I can confirm with Yellowstone, Zion, Rocky Mountain, Yosemite, Sequoia/Kings Canyon and Great Smoky Mountains - but I'm betting on no marked routes (state OR US - Interstates don't enter NPs)
Otherwise this got complicated ;)
US 61/US 67 through Kirkwood, MO is locally maintained, but not signed through town.
I-40 passes through Petrified Forest Nat'l Park and if Google is accurate, ramps to/from I-15 NB pass into the separate piece of Zion NP.
AZ 64 is sorta posted in Grand Canyon NP and its mile markers are definitely there.
US 33 and US 211 are posted like normal routes within Shenandoah NP.
To answer the OP question in Virginia, VDOT does not maintain US routes through Independent Cities, though they do send money for their maintenance.
Off the top of my head I know of 2 instances where a Virginia US route was posted in an independent city and not financed as a primary route: US 29 in Danville in the 1930s and US 60 Business in Virginia Beach from the late 50s until it went away (if it went away). Also technically in 1929 Incorporated Towns became responsible for route maintenance as well, though through the General Assembly maintenance was able to be restored to VDOH for most towns in 1930-31 (as late as 1934 for Cape Charles and US 13).
Mapmikey
I believe a significant section of NJ 41 is County maintained (CR 573), and Wiki seems to agree:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Route_41 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Route_41)
I recall this portion signed as "Temporary" 41 for years (co-signed with 573). Not sure if any of those signs are still around, as it has long since become 'permanent'.
Edit: Just realized I wasn't paying attention and I'm one level down in road classification from the topic.
Not quite a total example, but the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government (LFUCG) removes snow from all the US routes inside New Circle Road in Lexington.
There's a similar arrangement for Louisville, but I'm not positive what it is. At one time I heard that KYTC only removes snow from the interstates in Jefferson County, but I'd find that hard to believe because there are so many state routes in rural and suburban parts of the county, not to mention the US routes like 42, 60 and the 31s.
The traffic lights within Huntsville City Limits on the US highways in Huntsville are maintained by Huntsville, but ALDOT gets to decide which signal configurations get to be used.
Nearly all roads (including all U.S. (1, Alt 1 and 40 (formerly 111 and 301 if you go back far enough)) roads and I-83, but not including I-95, I-395, I-695 and I-895) in Baltimore City are maintained by the city.
In most Virginia cities and many towns, the municipal governments maintain everything within their corporate limits (usually except freeways).
Quote from: vdeane on December 15, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on December 15, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
I was wondering, I would like to know examples of particular sections of U.S. Routes that are maintained by local DOTs (such as those of a city or county), rather than a state DOT.
U.S. 9 in NYC (which carries Broadway) is maintained by NYCDOT, rather than NYSDOT as far as I know. Also, a few years ago ADOT considered transferring the responsibility of Grand Avenue (U.S. 60) to the local DOTs along the corridor, but this never happened due to unanimous opposition by the cities and Maricopa County.
Most surface street US (and NY) routes within a city for NY. A couple examples would be US 11 in Syracuse or a piece of US 4 in Mechanicville (though US 4 in Mechanicville is odd as most of it is actually maintained by NYSDOT). Also US 9 and US 20 in Albany. They're all over in NY!
So, looking just in NYC, you also have US 1 running over city streets in the Bronx, once it leaves the Cross Bronx Expressway.
Elsewhere, US 62 in Buffalo (and Niagara Falls) would be a prominent example.
QuoteGenerally - this this true for most states.
In my experience, Wisconsin is the only state I'm aware of where this is the case on a statewide basis.
QuoteIn most Virginia cities and many towns, the municipal governments maintain everything within their corporate limits (usually except freeways).
As Mapmikey noted, only in the Independent Cities.
Quote from: froggie on December 16, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
QuoteIn most Virginia cities and many towns, the municipal governments maintain everything within their corporate limits (usually except freeways).
As Mapmikey noted, only in the Independent Cities.
And some towns: Abingdon, Ashland, Big Stone Gap, Blacksburg, Blackstone, Bluefield, Bridgewater, Christiansburg, Clifton Forge, Culpeper, Farmville, Front Royal, Herndon, Lebanon, Leesburg, Luray, Marion, Orange, Pulaski, Richlands, Rocky Mount, South Boston, South Hill, Tazewell, Vienna, Vinton, Warrenton, Wise, Wytheville (list as of several years ago)
http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_095_Washington_2013.pdf
Note how I-81 in Abingdon has "Maint: 95" (in other words maintained by VDOT as part of the "Washington Maintenance Area"), while the surface routes don't. On the other hand, SR 91 in Damascus and Glade Spring does have that note.
As for what does get maintained no matter what, it's freeways and certain arterials including US 23, US 58, US 220, and US 460.
Quote from: empirestate on December 16, 2014, 09:11:30 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 15, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on December 15, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
I was wondering, I would like to know examples of particular sections of U.S. Routes that are maintained by local DOTs (such as those of a city or county), rather than a state DOT.
U.S. 9 in NYC (which carries Broadway) is maintained by NYCDOT, rather than NYSDOT as far as I know. Also, a few years ago ADOT considered transferring the responsibility of Grand Avenue (U.S. 60) to the local DOTs along the corridor, but this never happened due to unanimous opposition by the cities and Maricopa County.
Most surface street US (and NY) routes within a city for NY. A couple examples would be US 11 in Syracuse or a piece of US 4 in Mechanicville (though US 4 in Mechanicville is odd as most of it is actually maintained by NYSDOT). Also US 9 and US 20 in Albany. They're all over in NY!
So, looking just in NYC, you also have US 1 running over city streets in the Bronx, once it leaves the Cross Bronx Expressway.
Elsewhere, US 62 in Buffalo (and Niagara Falls) would be a prominent example.
In New York, it's entirely dependent on the city (and often the road). Eastern part of the state tends to be city-maintained for everything, while cites out by me tend to be half-and-half. I know that, out east, Glens Falls and Saratoga maintain just about everything, while Niagara Falls, Lockport, and the like have major roads maintained by the state.
Speaking of Buffalo, it is a weird case. Most
signed surface routes inside the city limits are city-maintained, with the exception of NY 384 north of NY 198, NY 33, NY 198, and NY 130.
However, there are several reference routes inside the city, such that city-maintained mileage comes close to state-maintained mileage for numbered routes. All of NY 950E, 952G, 954D, and 954L are in Buffalo, in addition to a couple more maintained by NYSTA and the Peace Bridge, which is authority-maintained.
Of course, US 62 is the really strange one, having a
county-maintained section between NY 263 and NY 384 that has neither end at a county-maintained highway
Quote from: cl94 on December 16, 2014, 04:07:50 PM
Of course, US 62 is the really strange one, having a county-maintained section between NY 263 and NY 384 324 that has neither end at a county-maintained highway
(Maintained as Erie County Route 152)
I'm no expert, but as far as I know, all state and federal routes in Indiana are maintained by INDOT. They have been doing their level best to hand those routes over to the cities or other localities, but always by removing the highway number and signage. This leads to many cases where the route just "disappears" at some boundary before reappearing at another, much to the chagrin of many motorists and road geeks. Examples include SR-25 at the edge of Lafayette and SR-933 at the St. Joseph/Elkhart County line.
Of course, they are unable to chop up US routes this way, so those are often rerouted along bypasses, with some very odd results, such as US 24 around Ft. Wayne, US 52 around Lafayette, and US 40 around Indy.
Quote from: theline on December 16, 2014, 06:00:09 PM
I'm no expert, but as far as I know, all state and federal routes in Indiana are maintained by INDOT.
Except for business routes.
In Michigan, the situation is complicated, depending on your definition of maintenance. For example, the Marquette County Road Commission plows most of the state highways in the county under contract to MDOT, and I think they handle some minor maintenance like pot hole repairs and striping. MDOT has a garage in L'Anse with their own plows not far from the Baraga County Road Commission garage. I want to say MDOT contracts with Houghton County for all of the highways in that county except M-28. While townships don't have jurisdiction over any roads in Michigan, Negaunee Township has a few plows at a garage, and Marquette Township voters just passed a millage request to authorize funding to supplement MCRC's spending in that township.
Quote from: froggie on December 16, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
As Mapmikey noted, only in the Independent Cities.
Some of the Towns
absolutely maintain U.S.-signed routes.
Three towns that immediately come to my mind are:
U.S. 15 [bypass] and Business U.S. 15 - both maintained by the Town of Leesburg [Loudoun County] within its corporate limits;
U.S. 17 and U.S. 360 within the Town of Tappahannock [Essex County]; and
U.S. 211 (and short sections of 15, 29 and 17, along with an assortment of business routes) are maintained by the Town of Warrenton [Fauquier County].
There are others, but these came to my mind immediately.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 17, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
Some of the Towns absolutely maintain U.S.-signed routes.
Three towns that immediately come to my mind are:
U.S. 15 [bypass] and Business U.S. 15 - both maintained by the Town of Leesburg [Loudoun County] within its corporate limits;
Only north of SR 7 east (the SR 7 part of the bypass is state maintained): http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_053_Loudoun_2013.pdf
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 17, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
U.S. 17 and U.S. 360 within the Town of Tappahannock [Essex County]; and
Nope: http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_028_Essex_2013.pdf
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 17, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
U.S. 211 (and short sections of 15, 29 and 17, along with an assortment of business routes) are maintained by the Town of Warrenton [Fauquier County].
Only US 211 and the business routes; the bypass is state maintained: http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_030_Fauquier_2013.pdf
As far as I know, all state highways in both Arkansas and Oklahoma are state maintained.
Last I checked, every mile of US route in Washington DC is maintained by a municipal DOT. :bigass:
Quote from: bugo on December 17, 2014, 02:20:06 AM
As far as I know, all state highways in both Arkansas and Oklahoma are state maintained.
I've seen signs on US 64 & US 271 where the towns maintain their section of highway. Roland, Pocola, and Poteau IIRC.
Quote from: robbones on December 18, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: bugo on December 17, 2014, 02:20:06 AM
As far as I know, all state highways in both Arkansas and Oklahoma are state maintained.
I've seen signs on US 64 & US 271 where the towns maintain their section of highway. Roland, Pocola, and Poteau IIRC.
Where? I've seen signs that say something about "roadside maintenance" which refers to mowing the sides of the road but I've never seen any signs that say that a certain highway is city maintained.
Quote from: bugo on December 18, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: robbones on December 18, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: bugo on December 17, 2014, 02:20:06 AM
As far as I know, all state highways in both Arkansas and Oklahoma are state maintained.
I've seen signs on US 64 & US 271 where the towns maintain their section of highway. Roland, Pocola, and Poteau IIRC.
Where? I've seen signs that say something about "roadside maintenance" which refers to mowing the sides of the road but I've never seen any signs that say that a certain highway is city maintained.
When I get that way I will get a pic to verify. You're more than likely correct.
Quote from: robbones on December 18, 2014, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: bugo on December 18, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: robbones on December 18, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: bugo on December 17, 2014, 02:20:06 AM
As far as I know, all state highways in both Arkansas and Oklahoma are state maintained.
I've seen signs on US 64 & US 271 where the towns maintain their section of highway. Roland, Pocola, and Poteau IIRC.
Where? I've seen signs that say something about "roadside maintenance" which refers to mowing the sides of the road but I've never seen any signs that say that a certain highway is city maintained.
When I get that way I will get a pic to verify. You're more than likely correct.
There are definitely no signs on US 59 in either direction indicating this.
Quote from: NE2 on December 17, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Only US 211 and the business routes; the bypass is state maintained: http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_030_Fauquier_2013.pdf
According to the link you posted above, 0.26 miles of U.S. 15/U.S. 29 (labelled as the "EASTERN BYPASS" by VDOT) is maintained by the Town of Warrenton, though I do not recall seeing any
END STATE MAINTENANCE signage (as can be found on U.S. 15 [Bypass] at the corporate limits of Leesburg). I assume it is in the northeast corner of the town.
The town also maintains 1.52 miles of U.S. 17, presumably on the north side of the town, where it was rebuilt onto an all-new alignment.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 19, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 17, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Only US 211 and the business routes; the bypass is state maintained: http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_030_Fauquier_2013.pdf
According to the link you posted above, 0.26 miles of U.S. 15/U.S. 29 (labelled as the "EASTERN BYPASS" by VDOT) is maintained by the Town of Warrenton, though I do not recall seeing any END STATE MAINTENANCE signage (as can be found on U.S. 15 [Bypass] at the corporate limits of Leesburg). I assume it is in the northeast corner of the town.
The town also maintains 1.52 miles of U.S. 17, presumably on the north side of the town, where it was rebuilt onto an all-new alignment.
Wrong. See that "Maint: 30"? That means VDOT maintains it as part of the "Fauquier Maintenance Area". Compare to US 211 and the business routes, where it just says "Town of Warrenton".
VDOT decided in 1969 that it would maintain arterial bypasses inside city limits: http://www.ctb.virginia.gov/meetings/minutes_pdf/CTB-05-1969-01.pdf (pp. 15-16)
Quote from: NE2 on December 19, 2014, 09:05:47 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 19, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 17, 2014, 12:49:13 AM
Only US 211 and the business routes; the bypass is state maintained: http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/Traffic_2013/AADT_030_Fauquier_2013.pdf
According to the link you posted above, 0.26 miles of U.S. 15/U.S. 29 (labelled as the "EASTERN BYPASS" by VDOT) is maintained by the Town of Warrenton, though I do not recall seeing any END STATE MAINTENANCE signage (as can be found on U.S. 15 [Bypass] at the corporate limits of Leesburg). I assume it is in the northeast corner of the town.
The town also maintains 1.52 miles of U.S. 17, presumably on the north side of the town, where it was rebuilt onto an all-new alignment.
Wrong. See that "Maint: 30"? That means VDOT maintains it as part of the "Fauquier Maintenance Area". Compare to US 211 and the business routes, where it just says "Town of Warrenton".
VDOT decided in 1969 that it would maintain arterial bypasses inside city limits: http://www.ctb.virginia.gov/meetings/minutes_pdf/CTB-05-1969-01.pdf (pp. 15-16)
Spui, thanks for explaining that.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 19, 2014, 08:48:47 PM
According to the link you posted above, 0.26 miles of U.S. 15/U.S. 29 (labelled as the "EASTERN BYPASS" by VDOT) is maintained by the Town of Warrenton, though I do not recall seeing any END STATE MAINTENANCE signage (as can be found on U.S. 15 [Bypass] at the corporate limits of Leesburg). I assume it is in the northeast corner of the town.
I wouldn't use the presence/absence of "State Maintenance Begins/Ends" signs as the barometer for this. Fredericksburg doesn't have any of these signs posted anywhere I am aware of on a primary route. The Town of Orange on the other hand definitely does. I would say that more often than not there are no signs on primary routes. These signs are more prevalent on secondary routes entering a town/city.
I was in error to have omitted Incorporated towns as maintainers of some primary routes. A good barometer that the town likely maintains the primary routes is whether there are any secondary route markers within town limits.
Mapmikey
I know not local here, but US 202 in NJ north of NJ 53 is county maintained.
I believe all independent cities in VA maintain all US, State, and Secondary routes as per agreement with the State.
Quote from: vdeane on December 17, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Last I checked, every mile of US route in Washington DC is maintained by a municipal DOT. :bigass:
Not entirely.
The National Park Service maintains the U.S. 50 (Constitution Avenue, N.W.) between 23rd Street and Virginia Avenue. It also maintains the southbound side of U.S.1 (15th Street) between Constitution Avenue, N.W. and (I believe) Independence Avenue, S.W.).