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Title: This is a goof, right?
Post by: Zeffy on December 27, 2014, 12:09:17 PM
I was looking through my 1977 Rand McNally, and then I stumbled upon this on the Connecticut pages:

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There were no proposals for I-34 in Connecticut, were there?
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 27, 2014, 12:53:48 PM
I'm 99.9% sure that that is supposed to be an "84." Connecticut is WAY too far north for an I-34.
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: Alex on December 27, 2014, 12:56:59 PM
Some of the rand atlases of that era also show I-474 in Peoria, IL as I-447. The error must have made the printing plate and stayed for several editions because of it.
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: NE2 on December 27, 2014, 02:01:22 PM
Yep. Should be I-38.
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: hbelkins on December 27, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
The I-484 caught my eye more than the I-34.
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: Alps on December 27, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 27, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
The I-484 caught my eye more than the I-34.
And not the Charter Oak being a TOLL BR.?
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: kurumi on December 27, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 27, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 27, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
The I-484 caught my eye more than the I-34.
And not the Charter Oak being a TOLL BR.?

The Charter Oak was a toll bridge, from its opening in 1942 until tolls were removed in April 1989.

And I-484 really did exist (though never signed), from 1976 to 1983. Same with I-284. (When the interstate designations were cancelled, those routes reverted to their old "secret" state road numbers.)
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: hbelkins on December 27, 2014, 09:25:57 PM
On closer inspection, I'm not sure that the 3 is really a 3, but instead it's an 8 that looks like a 3 because of a glitch in the printing process.
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: shadyjay on December 27, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
I have a 1977 RandMcNally atlas ... when I get back to VT, I'll check and see if I have the same "error".
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 28, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
Today, I-484 is simply known as the Whitehead-Conlon Highway, signed as "Exit 29A - Capitol Area" from I-91. I really wouldn't call it a true highway, more like a connector which passes under Main Street and the Hartford Public Library. It ends at a big traffic circle, close to Bushnell Park, with the state capitol building a little further back.

Go further west for the road which was also never built: The extension of CT Route 9 north of I-84 in Farmington. Of course that may simply have been signed as an extension of the existing I-291 (which presently ends at I-91 in Windsor).
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: cpzilliacus on December 28, 2014, 09:01:42 PM
Quote from: kurumi on December 27, 2014, 07:27:18 PM
Quote from: Alps on December 27, 2014, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 27, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
The I-484 caught my eye more than the I-34.
And not the Charter Oak being a TOLL BR.?

The Charter Oak was a toll bridge, from its opening in 1942 until tolls were removed in April 1989.

Was there another toll bridge in Connecticut over the Connecticut River?

And no, I do not mean the bridge that carried the Connecticut Turnpike (I-95) over the Connecticut River.
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: kurumi on December 29, 2014, 02:48:49 AM
Former toll bridges over the Connecticut River in CT:
* Bissell (CT 291)
* Bulkeley (before the I-84 era)
* Founders (CT 2)
* Charter Oak (US 5 / CT 15)
* Putnam (CT 3)
* E. Haddam (CT 82) - c. 1913 until when? need to fill in history on this page
* Baldwin  (US 1 / future I-95)
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: hotdogPi on December 29, 2014, 06:23:56 AM
Quote from: kurumi on December 29, 2014, 02:48:49 AM
Former toll bridges over the Connecticut River in CT:
* Bissell (CT 291)
* Bulkeley (before the I-84 era)
* Founders (CT 2)
* Charter Oak (US 5 / CT 15)
* Putnam (CT 3)
* E. Haddam (CT 82) - c. 1913 until when? need to fill in history on this page
* Baldwin  (US 1 / future I-95)

CT 66 was always free?
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: NE2 on December 29, 2014, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: 1 on December 29, 2014, 06:23:56 AM
CT 66 was always free?
There was a toll at Middletown until the Arrigoni Bridge opened in 1938.

http://articles.courant.com/2005-08-29/news/0508290012_1_ferry-service-passenger-ferry-ferry-street
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: shadyjay on December 29, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
Upon inspection of my 1977 RandMcN, I notice the same "error", which leads me to believe it could have been a printing error. 
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: DJStephens on January 13, 2015, 03:08:41 PM
also, what was that "spur" off to the north just N of the misprinted shield?   Remember traveling through that area much n the 70's and 80's when there seemed to be perpetual construction on the 84 corridor.  There were, and may still be, a maze of left hand exits and stubs that veered off into midair, such as asylum ave, and sisson blvd are a pair i remember.   Most of the bridges seemed to be dated 1968, remember that on the concrete ends of the bridge rails.   
Title: Re: This is a goof, right?
Post by: shadyjay on January 13, 2015, 05:12:29 PM
That spur would've been the beginning of the Trout Brook Freeway, which was to head up the CT 189 corridor north.  Today, the exit is marked "Park Road/West Hartford Center".  There's another left exit WB just south of the "shield" that's signed as "Trout Brook Drive / Elmwood" and that would've been another "expressway" that would have run south. 

There are still some ghost ramps at the Sisson Ave interchange that would have been for yet another road north. 

The Asylum Ave stubs were to be part of extending the Whitehead Highway west of its present terminus to I-84 via a tunnel beneath Bushnell Park, but those ramps were incorporated into EB exit/WB entrance ramps to Asylum Ave near the train station during the 1980s/1990s reconstruction.