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Title: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: 3467 on December 29, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
This is going to be subjective as to what you consider " a lot" and the routes you observe unless there are specific origin/destination studies available. Passenger vehicles only
I will give examples I travel in West/Central Illinois and Eastern Iowa

US 34 In Iowa and Illinois . Not surprisingly I see mostly Illinois and Iowa on both the 4 lane and 2 lane sections in both states.
US 67 in Illinois Iowa outnumbers Missouri
US218/IA 27 Illinois comes in after Missouri and before Minnesota when I have been on it
I see very few out of state plates on any other roads. Occasionally Iowa on US 136 and Missouri on US 24
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: ET21 on December 29, 2014, 02:48:27 PM
-US 20 can be added for NC and NW Illinois out towards Dubuque, Iowa. Basically the main route to and from the region
-US 151 mainly serves SW Wisconsin up towards Madison.
-Traffic wouldn't suggest it, but US 30 in my opinion is a nice in-between route of I-80 and I-88 in IL.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 29, 2014, 03:10:46 PM
So you mean a route that's not an Interstate Highway (proper noun) that carries a lot of interstate (common noun) traffic? As opposed to a non-Interstate that carries traffic that would otherwise stay on the Interstate? For the latter, the New Jersey Turnpike south of exit 6 and the Berkshire Thruway west of exit B1 qualify. For the former, they of course still qualify. So does US 160 NM.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: 3467 on December 29, 2014, 03:25:28 PM
Yes both would . How common are the 4 corners?
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: bzakharin on December 29, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
GS Parkway (and its NY extension to the NYS Thruway) as well. Also, what constitutes Interstate traffic? There is a lot of short distance commuter traffic in metro areas that crosses state lines. E.g. NJ 440 and NJ 495 into New York and NJ 90, NJ-42, and NJ-55, and the Atlantic City Expressway into Philadelphia. If that doesn't count, US-40 gets traffic to Atlantic City from Delaware and points South.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 29, 2014, 03:26:40 PM
Quote from: 3467 on December 29, 2014, 03:25:28 PM
Yes both would . How common are the 4 corners?
I am unable to parse this.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: 3467 on December 29, 2014, 03:32:13 PM
US 160 run through the 4 corners area
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Bickendan on December 29, 2014, 03:41:08 PM
That still doesn't quite clarify the question, being that there are only one set of four corners in the US. (The other in North America is with NW Territories, Nunavut, Manitoba and Saskatchewan, with no provisions of overland routes going there).
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: TEG24601 on December 29, 2014, 03:42:01 PM
US-23 from Toledo to Flint.
US-24 from Toledo west into Illinois.
US-52
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: DandyDan on December 29, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
The two big ones in Nebraska that I know about:
1. Iowa 2/NE 2 between I-29 and Lincoln.  Essentially the short cut between I-29 and I-80
2. US 81 between York, NE and Salina KS. Essentially an extension of I-135 north to I-80 and the route people in Nebraska take to go to points south of Wichita.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Pink Jazz on December 29, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
I don't know if this qualifies, however, many people who go from Phoenix to Albuquerque take AZ 87 to Payson and AZ 260, 277, and 377 to Holbrook as a shortcut instead of taking I-17 up to Flagstaff.  This route is especially popular for those in the East Valley (Mesa, Chandler, Gilbert, Tempe, and Queen Creek).

However, I may be misinterpreting the thread if the thread is specifically talking about state or U.S. routes that actually reach state lines.  Such an example would be those taking U.S. 13 and DE-1 from Hampton Roads to go to NYC, instead of taking I-64 west to I-295 and I-95.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Zzonkmiles on December 29, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
SR A1A in Florida would seem the most logical choice in that state. Tons of traffic from out of state that is filtering out to the various hotels and shopping areas along the shore. But maybe I don't understand the question very well either.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: sbeaver44 on December 29, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
-US 19/Corridor L between I-79 and Beckley
-US 15 in Pennsylvania (Buffalo-Rochester to Washington DC)
-US 301 in Maryland
-US 13 in Delaware/Maryland/Virginia previously stated
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: 3467 on December 29, 2014, 06:18:35 PM
These are all interesting. I wanted it to be your observations. I just find it interesting where people are traveling or commuting and what highways they use . In a state like Iowa which has counties on the plates you can glean even more information
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: cl94 on December 29, 2014, 06:22:12 PM
- NY 149 and US 4 from I-87 to I-89
- US 219
- Palisades Interstate Parkway
- CT 15 and the Hutchison River Parkway
- NY 7, VT 9, and VT 279
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: silverback1065 on December 29, 2014, 06:54:34 PM
Keystone Avenue (Old SR 431), Binford Blvd (Old SR 37), Fall Creek Parkway North Drive (Part of Old SR 37), and Allisonville Rd in Indianapolis.  The direct result of the cancellation of I-69 inside the loop. There were plans to widen Allisonville to 4 lanes but the locals got angry.  Also Keystone Parkway in Carmel (Old SR 431)
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: mrose on December 29, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
Quote from: DandyDan on December 29, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
The two big ones in Nebraska that I know about:
1. Iowa 2/NE 2 between I-29 and Lincoln.  Essentially the short cut between I-29 and I-80
2. US 81 between York, NE and Salina KS. Essentially an extension of I-135 north to I-80 and the route people in Nebraska take to go to points south of Wichita.

First two that came to my mind, having at one time used both frequently. I always had the 135/81 route as a fictional I-31 in my fantasy maps, with a north extension to Sioux City via I-80 and US 77 north of Lincoln.




Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: hbelkins on December 29, 2014, 10:21:09 PM
US 23, northern Ohio to Asheville, NC. I see lots of vehicles from Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee and North Carolina anytime I am on any stretch of this route.

US 35, St. Albans, WV to Dayton, OH.

Mountain Parkway in Kentucky. Lots of Ohio traffic heading west on Sunday afternoons as transplanted Kentuckians return to the Buckeye State after visiting home.

US 60-62 through Cairo, Ill.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: SP Cook on December 30, 2014, 06:54:15 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2014, 10:21:09 PM


US 35, St. Albans, WV to Dayton, OH.



Nitpick.  35 no longer goes to St. Albans.  You were here the weekend before the new road opened, ending in Scott Depot.  But you are not the worst offender.  Charleston's bus system still lists one of its routes as ending at the "35-60 Junction", which 35 and 60 never meet and have not for more than a decade.

The WV one that is obvious is Corridor L/US 19, which forms, even with the speed traps and ridiculous stop lights, the most logical route, bypassing Charleston and 2/3rd of the Turnpike.   


Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 07:00:48 AM
US 35 never ended in St. Albans. Owned.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: corco on December 30, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
One striking one is US 93 in Nevada. As soon as 93 splits from I-15 heading north, more than half the cars have Idaho license plates outside of towns, some 422 miles south of the Idaho line. This being because 93 is the fastest route to Las Vegas for everybody west of American Falls and south of Grangeville, which is about a million people, and there's maybe 10,000 people living in Nevada on 93 between that junction and the state line, and much of that population can get to Salt Lake faster than Vegas (therefore not using US 93) when they want to go to a big city.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 30, 2014, 10:03:42 AM
US 501 is a popular route to Myrtle Beach, SC, especially for Midwesterners who end up on it via US 74. Whenever I head down to Myrtle Beach, I see a significant amount of non-SC car on there.

US 4 also acts as a connector between eastern upstate NY and New Hampshire.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: SteveG1988 on December 30, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
US2 in North Dakota

MN to MT traffic uses it instead of heading south to I-94 at Fargo.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: roadman65 on December 30, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
US 301 from Callahan, FL to Ocala, FL along with FL 200 in those respected cities to connect them with both I-95 and I-75 counts as it is a bypass sort of Orlando.  Many out of state residents along the I-95 corridor north of Florida to Tampa and SW FL use this route to avoid the mess along I-4 and say that it saves so much time in addition to aggravation.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: thenetwork on December 30, 2014, 10:42:25 AM
OH-2, when not duplexed with I-90, on either side of Cleveland.  East of town, the freeway carries most of Lake County's bedroom community traffic, while west of town, OH-2 carries shunpikers to Toledo and points west year-round, as well as Cedar Point/Lake Erie Islands traffic in the summer.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: ajlynch91 on December 30, 2014, 10:53:02 AM
Without mentioning US Routes (like 41) because in my opinion those were built for interstate traffic pre-Interstate, IL-132, and to a lesser extent IL-131 and IL-176 all typically have traffic on them coming to/from Six Flags Great America in Gurnee. Plenty of Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan plates to be seen in this area. I've also seen a few Ohio and Iowa plates, among others. Not sure if this truly is "interstate" given the destination these cars are going to, but that's my two cents to the topic. :sombrero:
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Zzonkmiles on December 30, 2014, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 30, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
US 301 from Callahan, FL to Ocala, FL along with FL 200 in those respected cities to connect them with both I-95 and I-75 counts as it is a bypass sort of Orlando.  Many out of state residents along the I-95 corridor north of Florida to Tampa and SW FL use this route to avoid the mess along I-4 and say that it saves so much time in addition to aggravation.

Excellent pick. I've used this "shortcut" before too instead of taking I-95 south to I-4. But the speed traps are notorious on US 301.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: hbelkins on December 30, 2014, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on December 30, 2014, 06:54:15 AM
Nitpick.  35 no longer goes to St. Albans.  You were here the weekend before the new road opened, ending in Scott Depot.

I couldn't remember the name of the community where the intersection is now, which is why I said St. Albans.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Henry on December 30, 2014, 11:59:09 AM
I imagine that US 17 carries lots of interstate traffic where it runs along the Atlantic coastline, from Norfolk, VA to Savannah, GA. Ditto for the aforementioned US 13 from Norfolk to Wilmington, DE. Together, they would make a great coastal Interstate someday, if the right pieces fall into place.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: ekt8750 on December 30, 2014, 02:06:51 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on December 29, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
GS Parkway (and its NY extension to the NYS Thruway) as well. Also, what constitutes Interstate traffic? There is a lot of short distance commuter traffic in metro areas that crosses state lines. E.g. NJ 440 and NJ 495 into New York and NJ 90, NJ-42, and NJ-55, and the Atlantic City Expressway into Philadelphia. If that doesn't count, US-40 gets traffic to Atlantic City from Delaware and points South.

If it were up to me NJ42/ACE would be I-76 (I'd make the Black Horse Pike NJ168 through to where it meets up with US322/40) and you could even upgrade NJ55 to an I-x76. 

Also PA33 could be a good candidate to be an I-78 child. That gets a pretty good amount of traffic and connects the Lehigh Valley with the Poconos.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: ekt8750 on December 30, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 30, 2014, 11:59:09 AM
I imagine that US 17 carries lots of interstate traffic where it runs along the Atlantic coastline, from Norfolk, VA to Savannah, GA. Ditto for the aforementioned US 13 from Norfolk to Wilmington, DE. Together, they would make a great coastal Interstate someday, if the right pieces fall into place.

Agreed. I've spent more than my fair share of time on both roads and they'd make a great Interstate alternative to 95. Delaware wouldn't go for it cause it would become a shunpike for DE1 unless they'd toll both roads and something would have to be done with that creepy old bridge over the C&D Canal in Georgetown.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 03:16:44 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on December 30, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
Delaware wouldn't go for it cause it would become a shunpike for DE1
whaaaat
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: codyg1985 on December 30, 2014, 03:44:39 PM
For Alabama, I would say US 231 and US 431 south of I-85 to Florida. People from Georgia, the mid-west, and the Carolinas, in addition to Alabama, use these routes to get to and from the beaches in the Florida panhandle.

For Mississippi, I would say US 49 southeast of Jackson to Gulfport, again, for beach traffic, but also for port access. You could also throw in US 98 between Hattiesburg and Mobile for folks going to the beaches in Alabama and Florida from the Mid-South area.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Pink Jazz on December 30, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on December 30, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: Henry on December 30, 2014, 11:59:09 AM
I imagine that US 17 carries lots of interstate traffic where it runs along the Atlantic coastline, from Norfolk, VA to Savannah, GA. Ditto for the aforementioned US 13 from Norfolk to Wilmington, DE. Together, they would make a great coastal Interstate someday, if the right pieces fall into place.

Agreed. I've spent more than my fair share of time on both roads and they'd make a great Interstate alternative to 95. Delaware wouldn't go for it cause it would become a shunpike for DE1 unless they'd toll both roads and something would have to be done with that creepy old bridge over the C&D Canal in Georgetown.

I know there has been the proposed Interstate 101, however, I do believe that the proposal would include DE-1 as part of it, rather than using US 13 through much of Delaware.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: silverback1065 on December 30, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on December 30, 2014, 03:44:39 PM
For Alabama, I would say US 231 and US 431 south of I-85 to Florida. People from Georgia, the mid-west, and the Carolinas, in addition to Alabama, use these routes to get to and from the beaches in the Florida panhandle.

For Mississippi, I would say US 49 southeast of Jackson to Gulfport, again, for beach traffic, but also for port access. You could also throw in US 98 between Hattiesburg and Mobile for folks going to the beaches in Alabama and Florida from the Mid-South area.

Does US 90 get this much traffic too?  I know it travels along the shore in a lot of states in the south.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: bing101 on December 30, 2014, 03:57:38 PM
US-101 Bayshore Freeway between San Francisco and San Jose and US-101 from Ventura to Los Angeles would be my picks.

Also CA-99 from the CA-51, I-305, US-50 and Business 80 interchange in Sacramento to the I-5 at CA-99 Interchange near Ridge Route/Grapevine has been mentioned has having interstate traffic for a state route.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: codyg1985 on December 30, 2014, 04:03:58 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 30, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on December 30, 2014, 03:44:39 PM
For Alabama, I would say US 231 and US 431 south of I-85 to Florida. People from Georgia, the mid-west, and the Carolinas, in addition to Alabama, use these routes to get to and from the beaches in the Florida panhandle.

For Mississippi, I would say US 49 southeast of Jackson to Gulfport, again, for beach traffic, but also for port access. You could also throw in US 98 between Hattiesburg and Mobile for folks going to the beaches in Alabama and Florida from the Mid-South area.

Does US 90 get this much traffic too?  I know it travels along the shore in a lot of states in the south.

US 90 only hugs the shore along the Mississippi Gulf Coast. In Alabama, US 90 is a bit further inland, and US 98 is also somewhat inland as well. In Florida, US 98 hugs the coast. I would say that those probably get a lot of out-of-state travelers, but they wouldn't use it on a long-distance basis, while the north-south ones would.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 30, 2014, 04:12:52 PM
NJ 17
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: SSOWorld on December 30, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
WIS 29 is a good candidate as a direct to Green Bay/Appleton (the latter combined with US-10 via WIS 13 or I-39) from the Twin Cities westward.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 04:37:33 PM
I'm still confused about the purpose of this thread. Is it supposed to be a road that carries a lot of traffic from other states (in which case US 160 NM wins)? Or a road that carries a lot of traffic connecting between Interstate Highways?
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: cpzilliacus on December 30, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 04:37:33 PM
I'm still confused about the purpose of this thread. Is it supposed to be a road that carries a lot of traffic from other states (in which case US 160 NM wins)? Or a road that carries a lot of traffic connecting between Interstate Highways?

Yes.

How about U.S. 522 in Maryland and West Virginia.

Also U.S. 15 in Maryland.

Also Baltimore-Washington Parkway ("secret" Md. 295 on the federal part).

Also D.C. 295.

Also U.S. 340 across the northern tip of Loudoun County, Va.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: silverback1065 on December 30, 2014, 05:13:56 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 30, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 04:37:33 PM
I'm still confused about the purpose of this thread. Is it supposed to be a road that carries a lot of traffic from other states (in which case US 160 NM wins)? Or a road that carries a lot of traffic connecting between Interstate Highways?

Yes.

How about U.S. 522 in Maryland and West Virginia.

Also U.S. 15 in Maryland.

Also Baltimore-Washington Parkway ("secret" Md. 295 on the federal part).

Also D.C. 295.

Also U.S. 340 across the northern tip of Loudoun County, Va.

D.C. 295 raises two questions.  Why isn't it just I-295? Since it is officially D.C. 295 why isn't it signed as D.C. 295?  I don't remember ever seeing any shields unless i overlooked them all.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: froggie on December 30, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
QuoteI know there has been the proposed Interstate 101,

Not officially.  That was a business/private-consultant proposal.  The closest to an official proposal there has been was when the Virginia General Assembly ordered VDOT to study an I-99 along the Eastern Shore (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/i099.htm).  In short, lack of funding or interest was the result.

QuoteD.C. 295 raises two questions.  Why isn't it just I-295? Since it is officially D.C. 295 why isn't it signed as D.C. 295?  I don't remember ever seeing any shields unless i overlooked them all.

You must've overlooked them.  It is signed as DC 295.  The reason it isn't an Interstate is because it isn't even close to being Interstate standard.  Plus, it does not follow the originally proposed I-295 (which would've been west of the Anacostia north of Barney Circle).
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Laura on December 30, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
VA 207, US 301, and DE 896 make a great bypass of I-95 and friends between Bowling Green, VA and Newark, DE
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: doorknob60 on December 30, 2014, 07:31:57 PM
Quote from: corco on December 30, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
One striking one is US 93 in Nevada. As soon as 93 splits from I-15 heading north, more than half the cars have Idaho license plates outside of towns, some 422 miles south of the Idaho line. This being because 93 is the fastest route to Las Vegas for everybody west of American Falls and south of Grangeville, which is about a million people, and there's maybe 10,000 people living in Nevada on 93 between that junction and the state line, and much of that population can get to Salt Lake faster than Vegas (therefore not using US 93) when they want to go to a big city.

Similarly, US-95 in Oregon has very few Oregon drivers on it. It's mostly Idaho, Nevada and California. Looking at a map, it's what you'd expect, but kinda funny. There also seems to be (with my limited experience) more cops there than most rural stretches of highway, to prey on the out of state drivers with their evil 55 speed limit.

By a different interpretation of the OP, US-395 in Washington between Pasco and Ritzville is essentially an interstate already, in terms of traffic, and the way the road is built (4 lane divided expressway, 70 MPH).
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: StogieGuy7 on December 30, 2014, 08:02:29 PM
U.S. Highway 6 in Utah, between I-70 in Green River and I-15 in Spanish Fork.  This is the shortest way from much of Colorado, NM, and points southeast to Salt Lake City and points north and northwest (via I-15 and I-84).  That road carries a ton of interstate traffic and, as it's still not designed for it, is quite dangerous. 
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: SP Cook on December 30, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 07:00:48 AM
US 35 never ended in St. Albans. Owned.

Sad really.

http://route.transportation.org/Pages/U.S.NumberedHighways-1989Edition(current).aspx

Page 63.

Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: cl94 on December 30, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
NJ/NY 440
US 46 east of I-287
US 7
NJ 3

Are we counting the Chicago Skyway as an Interstate? If not, add it to the list.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: silverback1065 on December 30, 2014, 10:57:08 PM
The entirety of US 41 south of I-80/94 in Indiana.  SR 37 south of Indianapolis.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: dfwmapper on December 31, 2014, 12:22:53 AM
US 87 in New Mexico
US 69 in Oklahoma

Does AZ 64 count? The vast, vast majority of people using it are tourists from somewhere else headed to the Grand Canyon.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 31, 2014, 01:29:51 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on December 30, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 07:00:48 AM
US 35 never ended in St. Albans. Owned.

Sad really.

http://route.transportation.org/Pages/U.S.NumberedHighways-1989Edition(current).aspx

Page 63.



AASHTO was wrong and so are you. US 35's end was across the Coal River from St. Albans.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: txstateends on December 31, 2014, 05:59:24 AM
US 287 between Fort Worth and Amarillo
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: SP Cook on December 31, 2014, 06:29:59 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2014, 01:29:51 AM


AASHTO was wrong and so are you.

Really sad.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Perfxion on December 31, 2014, 06:31:38 AM
US 290(later than sooner will be a 3di), Beltway 8, US 59(sooner than later will be I-69),  US 90, SH225, SH288

Or I can say Houston has a lot of traffic. But if this thread if for interstate traffic, I guess they all still count since Texas loves intra-interstates.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on December 31, 2014, 07:39:43 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on December 31, 2014, 06:29:59 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2014, 01:29:51 AM


AASHTO was wrong and so are you.

Really sad.

Tagger bee.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: silverback1065 on December 31, 2014, 08:29:58 AM
us 31 from Indy to Ludington MI
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: keithvh on December 31, 2014, 10:13:10 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 29, 2014, 10:21:09 PM
US 23, northern Ohio to Asheville, NC. I see lots of vehicles from Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky, Virginia, Tennessee and North Carolina anytime I am on any stretch of this route.

US 35, St. Albans, WV to Dayton, OH.


Somewhat related to these two:

(1) the AA-Highway (KY-9) gets a lot of Cincinnati traffic to places like Huntington/Charleston WV/Charlottesville/Richmond. 

The traffic in (1) above CAN use OH-32 to US-35 of course.  I know I prefer the AA-Highway though.

the AA-Highway is also a viable way to get from Cincinnati to Asheville/Greensboro/Winston-Salem/Charlotte, either continuing on I-64 to Charleston WV or taking US-23 south from Ashland.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: ET21 on December 31, 2014, 12:56:42 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 30, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
NJ/NY 440
US 46 east of I-287
US 7
NJ 3

Are we counting the Chicago Skyway as an Interstate? If not, add it to the list.

Skyway is listed as I-90
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Zzonkmiles on December 31, 2014, 02:19:18 PM
US 58 in Virginia is another road that carries a lot of out-of-state traffic. That road is four lanes wide east of I-95 and has a high speed limit, so it makes it a great way for people to access Virginia Beach and Norfolk from North Carolina and points further south. Traffic coming from the north would use I-64 instead.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: hbelkins on December 31, 2014, 08:43:43 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 31, 2014, 01:29:51 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on December 30, 2014, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 30, 2014, 07:00:48 AM
US 35 never ended in St. Albans. Owned.

Sad really.

http://route.transportation.org/Pages/U.S.NumberedHighways-1989Edition(current).aspx

Page 63.



AASHTO was wrong and so are you. US 35's end was across the Coal River from St. Albans.

It may not be within the city limits of St. Albans, but it's close enough.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: jwolfer on December 31, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 30, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
US 301 from Callahan, FL to Ocala, FL along with FL 200 in those respected cities to connect them with both I-95 and I-75 counts as it is a bypass sort of Orlando.  Many out of state residents along the I-95 corridor north of Florida to Tampa and SW FL use this route to avoid the mess along I-4 and say that it saves so much time in addition to aggravation.
Yep. Lots of out of state traffic. AAA did stop recommending this route due to the infamous speed traps of Lawtey and Waldo. Waldo had its police force disbanded last year. So less to worry about.

Starke is a pain in the ass to drive through with lowered speed limits and traffic lights. There is a freeway bypass being built that will make the trip better as well as upgrade of the i10 exit ramps. Hopefully as Jacksonville suburbia grows they will not build Walmarts and publixes all along the road with requisite traffic lights. Based on other parts of Florida this will probably be traffic clogged in 20 years. I hope FDOT makes this limited access now.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: jwolfer on December 31, 2014, 09:06:33 PM
Quote from: 3467 on December 29, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
This is going to be subjective as to what you consider " a lot" and the routes you observe unless there are specific origin/destination studies available. Passenger vehicles only
I will give examples I travel in West/Central Illinois and Eastern Iowa

US 34 In Iowa and Illinois . Not surprisingly I see mostly Illinois and Iowa on both the 4 lane and 2 lane sections in both states.
US 67 in Illinois Iowa outnumbers Missouri
US218/IA 27 Illinois comes in after Missouri and before Minnesota when I have been on it
I see very few out of state plates on any other roads. Occasionally Iowa on US 136 and Missouri on US 24
Its interesting driving on random back roads in Florida and seeing out if state tags with full luggage racks on top. I was on SR 19 today driving from Orlando to Jacksonville. I saw cars from Vermont, Texas, New Jersey, New York and Michigan.  But Florida is a tourist mecca so I guess its not too weird. Like seeing out of state tags on SR 12 on the Outer Banks in the summer
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: JCinSummerfield on January 01, 2015, 07:17:24 PM
In Michigan I would think much interstate traffic would be on US-2, US 127, US-131 & M-28.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: robbones on January 02, 2015, 09:01:56 AM
Would US 65 through SE Arkansas count?
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: OCGuy81 on January 02, 2015, 10:19:53 AM
Surprised to see no mention of the following yet.

CA-99 through the Central Valley
CA-91
CA-210 (okay, there is an interstate portion but it's still busy east of San Dimas)
CA-58
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: TXtoNJ on January 02, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
Quote from: Perfxion on December 31, 2014, 06:31:38 AM
US 290(later than sooner will be a 3di), Beltway 8, US 59(sooner than later will be I-69),  US 90, SH225, SH288

Or I can say Houston has a lot of traffic. But if this thread if for interstate traffic, I guess they all still count since Texas loves intra-interstates.

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All of these except for 59 handle mostly intrastate traffic, and primarily Houston commuter traffic. The best route to Austin from the east is I-10 to SH 71, rather than 290.

In Texas, the primary non-Interstate routes that handle interstate traffic would be 59 (Houston to Arkansas/N Louisiana, Houston to Nuevo Laredo), 75 (Dallas to Tulsa), 287 (Dallas/Houston to Denver), 87 (Dallas/Houston to Denver), 84 (Texas Triangle to Albuquerque), and 77/281 (Texas Triangle to Reynosa/Matamoros).

To a lesser extent, SH 71 (Austin to points east).
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NYhwyfan on January 02, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
New York State Route 63 between Batavia (I-90/Thruway) and Geneseo (I-390)


Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: cl94 on January 02, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: NYhwyfan on January 02, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
New York State Route 63 between Batavia (I-90/Thruway) and Geneseo (I-390)

Building on that, US 20 in New York between the PA line and NY 63 gets a lot of truckers and shunpikers
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 03, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 02, 2015, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: NYhwyfan on January 02, 2015, 02:56:24 PM
New York State Route 63 between Batavia (I-90/Thruway) and Geneseo (I-390)

Building on that, US 20 in New York between the PA line and NY 63 gets a lot of truckers and shunpikers

Also between NY 80 and I-88 for those going to/coming from Cooperstown.

Others:  CT 2, CT 8, CT 9,  NH 101, MA 2, MA 146, US 3/Everett Turnpike, NJ 495, NJ 18, DE 141, US 30 through Lancaster and York County, PA, US 422 from Valley Forge to Reading, US 222 from Lancaster to Allentown, US 202 from Wilmington to Valley Forge, VA 7, VA/WV 9. VA 267/Dulles Greenway
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: sandiaman on January 03, 2015, 07:27:02 PM
 Here's  two more highways  that  carry more traffic from out of  state, than the state they are in:   US  30  in SE  Idaho, a short cut to I- 80  in Wyoming favored by truckers to avoid Utah   and   US  54    from Tucumcari  to the Texas  line.  This highway  is used as a diagonal  connection  from   Albuquerque and El Paso  to  and other Midwest points.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: davewiecking on January 04, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
Definitely confused by the question. Take the case of westbound MD404/DE404. Either the part just entering MD carries over 50% out of state traffic, or the part just leaving DE carries over 50% out of state traffic (or the traffic is split exactly 50/50, which is statistically unlikely-in which case wait another few seconds for another vehicle to come along). The same would be true of the eastbound lane. And any road that crosses a state border.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: NE2 on January 04, 2015, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: davewiecking on January 04, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
And any road that crosses a state border.
Indeed. Hence US 160 NM.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: cpzilliacus on January 04, 2015, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on December 30, 2014, 02:06:51 PM
If it were up to me NJ42/ACE would be I-76 (I'd make the Black Horse Pike NJ168 through to where it meets up with US322/40) and you could even upgrade NJ55 to an I-x76.

The ACE would need a lot of upgrading work to become an Interstate. 

First, there's the matter of the highway lighting that appears to be mounted on wooden utility poles, exposed to high-speed traffic, though I  suppose that would not be terribly expensive to correct.

But many of the overpasses on the ACE are not high enough to meet Interstate standards of 14' 6" (http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/geometric/pubs/mitigationstrategies/chapter3/3_verticalclearance.cfm).

Between the Garden State Parkway interchange and Atlantic City itself, I also wonder if the curves there do not comply with Interstate design.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Zzonkmiles on January 05, 2015, 12:51:58 AM
How about US 1 between Key West and Miami? Surely the number of out-of-state cars and RVs on the road must be astronomical.
Title: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Pete from Boston on January 05, 2015, 07:34:44 AM
Quote from: Zzonkmiles on January 05, 2015, 12:51:58 AM
How about US 1 between Key West and Miami? Surely the number of out-of-state cars and RVs on the road must be astronomical.

How about US 1 anywhere in the Northeast when any incident at all happens on 95, immediately backing it up for miles and sending drivers looking for alternate routes?
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: froggie on January 05, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
One not mentioned yet:  VA/NC 168.  Not a whole lot of truck traffic, but a fair bit of interstate passenger vehicles both heading to/from the Outer Banks as well as North Carolina commuters in the Hampton Roads area.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: swbrotha100 on January 05, 2015, 06:10:07 PM
AZ 85 between I-8 and I-10. US 93 between I-40 and I-515
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: MrDisco99 on January 06, 2015, 01:36:08 PM
US 280 in AL carries lots of traffic from Birmingham southeast through Auburn, and flows into GA 520 through Columbus and Albany which connects to I-75 (Tifton) and I-95 (Brunswick)... LOTS of Florida traffic on this route.

You could continue the corridor up to memphis, but I-22 is taking care of that.
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: jwolfer on January 06, 2015, 11:38:28 PM
Quote from: Zzonkmiles on January 05, 2015, 12:51:58 AM
How about US 1 between Key West and Miami? Surely the number of out-of-state cars and RVs on the road must be astronomical.
There are lots of roads in Florida with lots of oit of state tags
Title: Re: Non-Interstate Route That carry a lot of Interstate Traffic
Post by: Gnutella on January 26, 2015, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on December 29, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
-US 19/Corridor L between I-79 and Beckley
-US 15 in Pennsylvania (Buffalo-Rochester to Washington DC)
-US 301 in Maryland
-US 13 in Delaware/Maryland/Virginia previously stated

U.S. 19 between I-79 and I-77 has a notorious speed trap in Summersville. The police there probably make a windfall with all the traffic between Pittsburgh and Charlotte.

In Missouri, U.S. 36 is increasingly being used by truck traffic between Kansas City and Chicago.

In Georgia, U.S. 129 and U.S. 441 are increasingly being used to bypass Atlanta. It's a straight shot between the I-75 corridor in middle and south Georgia, and I-85 in the Carolinas. The distance between I-75 in Macon and I-85 in Commerce is 114 miles via U.S. 129 and U.S. 441, versus 162 miles and the hassle of Atlanta traffic via I-75, I-675, I-285 and I-85. If you're going northbound, take the following route:


- Exit I-75 in Macon
- Follow U.S. 129 from Macon to Eatonton
- Follow U.S. 129/U.S. 441 from Eatonton to Athens
- Follow U.S. 441 from Athens to Commerce
- Enter I-85 in Commerce

(Read the chart in the opposite direction if you're going southbound.)


BAM! Atlanta traffic avoided. And once you get on I-85, you're only 30 miles from the South Carolina state line. The only drawback to using U.S. 129 and U.S. 441 is that it's mostly two lanes between Gray and Watkinsville. I expect that to change in the next 10 years, though.