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Regional Boards => Southeast => Topic started by: Brian556 on January 12, 2015, 11:29:40 PM

Title: FL: Old, Old US 441 between Tavares and Mt Dora
Post by: Brian556 on January 12, 2015, 11:29:40 PM
According to US-HIGHWAYS.COM, the first route of US 441 in the Tavares-Mt Dora area was:

QuoteIn Tavares US 441 followed Alfred St to Dora Ave, then Dora Ave up just above Lake Woodard. From there, US 441 went towards Mount Dora around the north side of Lake Gertrude, This alignment was bypassed by 1934 with a newly built direct alignment from Tavares to Mount Dora, which is now CR 500A, and signed Old US 441.

Does anybody have a map or know the online location of a map of this route?

I can tell what roads it appears to have used, CR 19A (Dora Av), Old Mt Dora Rd, Old Eustis Rd;  but it would be cool to see an actual map of it.

Google Map of area:https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tavares,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.818131,-81.66687&spn=0.052716,0.099134&sll=31.168934,-100.076842&sspn=13.16004,25.378418&oq=tava&t=h&hnear=Tavares,+Lake+County,+Florida&z=14 (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tavares,+FL&hl=en&ll=28.818131,-81.66687&spn=0.052716,0.099134&sll=31.168934,-100.076842&sspn=13.16004,25.378418&oq=tava&t=h&hnear=Tavares,+Lake+County,+Florida&z=14)
Title: Re: FL: Old, Old US 441 between Tavares and Mt Dora
Post by: NE2 on January 13, 2015, 12:16:14 AM
This was the main road in 1919: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1256221
US 441 probably used a combination of this and the obvious old alignments.
Title: Re: FL: Old, Old US 441 between Tavares and Mt Dora
Post by: Brian556 on January 13, 2015, 12:32:38 AM
Thanks. That's a cool map. It confirms some suspicions that I have had:

#1. Dead River Road.
#2: Junction Rd at Zellwood. That bend at Ponkan Rd was a good clue.

Side Note: Ponkan Rd seems like a road name that you would find in an Asian country (Koreas, Philippines, ect.), not Florida.
Title: Re: FL: Old, Old US 441 between Tavares and Mt Dora
Post by: Brian556 on January 13, 2015, 12:57:28 AM
Just thought of this... It's interesting that the Dixie Hwy followed the route shown on the OSM map, but old maps show that SR 2 originally followed what is now CR 44 through Grand Island, missing Tavares.

Title: Re: FL: Old, Old US 441 between Tavares and Mt Dora
Post by: NE2 on January 13, 2015, 01:12:11 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on January 13, 2015, 12:32:38 AM
Side Note: Ponkan Rd seems like a road name that you would find in an Asian country (Koreas, Philippines, ect.), not Florida.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponkan

Quote from: Brian556 on January 13, 2015, 12:57:28 AM
Just thought of this... It's interesting that the Dixie Hwy followed the route shown on the OSM map, but old maps show that SR 2 originally followed what is now CR 44 through Grand Island, missing Tavares.
It's certainly possible that the Dixie Highway used CR 44, especially since the direct route was not a state road until 1925, but this is how the Blue Book routed drivers in 1919.