Aside from people who use the word "highway" instead or "route", "state route", or "state road", or dropping numbers from a multi-pled, do you have any road or highways that are referred to by different names or numbers than what is actually signed for the road.
Carroll County IN road 200N, 150N, and 75W (one contiguous road), is called by locals "The Crooked Road", even though just the 75W segment has any curves on it.
There is a segment of M-24 through the town of Lake Orion, that everyone calls "Lapeer Road", because that is what the surrounding townships and towns call the road, but Lake Orion has a street, which may have been the former alignment of M-24 that is actually designated Lapeer Street, and M-24 is just M-24.
Also in Lake Orion, there is a street along the Eastern shores of Lake Orion that is commonly called by locals, "North Shore Ave", when it is just "N Shore Ave", and there is a "S Shore Ave", but the southern section gets called "S North Shore Ave". When I was living there, the post office actually was going so far as to return letters than said "N Northshore Ave.", since there was no "Northshore Ave", to sender to try to correct the problem.
In Portland, OR's west side, there is a street that runs along the water front, which is currently signed "Natio Parkway", however, everyone calls it "Front Avenue". It was double signed for years, but no one has really paid attention, nor do they care, and they still use the old name, even though it is no longer signed as such.
MA 128 :)
Quote from: Sam on January 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
MA 128 :)
Only for a few miles. The rest of the corridor is signed as both 95 and 128.
Don't know whether this counts because it's technically an acronym: Duke of Gloucester Street in Williamsburg is commonly referred to as "Dog Street."
Las Vegas, Nevada: It's "Las Vegas Blvd" on signs, but commonly referred to as "The Strip" (and sometimes referred to as "The Boulevard").
"3" on the Everett Turnpike in New Hampshire. Part of it is US 3. Some of it isn't, but people still refer to the non-US 3 section as "3" (sometimes "Route 3", sometimes just the number).
Though "the Perimeter" is essentially a universal term for I-285, to the best of my knowledge this name is not actually signed anywhere.
In the NYC area, a few sets of conflation where a shorter or newer route disappears in favor of its continuation:
NJ 495 = Route 3
West St. = West Side Highway
Harlem River Drive = FDR
Lakeside Ave. (Verona) = Pleasant Valley Way
Also, NJ 139 (Lower) = "1&9 approach" from when it was US 1/9 Business (original 1/9)
I-290/I-355 between Biesterfield and Army Trail. It's known as "Route 53" even though IL-53 joins the freeway at Biesterfield. Historically, it was all IL-53.
In Clinton County, MI, Old US 27 is referred to as "27". In the county, the road officially has no name (I think all addresses still use US 27), but in the City of St. Johns, it's called Whittemore St and signed Business US 127.
Also in St. Johns, MI, M-21 is referred to as "M-21" to the best of my knowledge, even though it's called State St. (doesn't really count)
Quote from: pianocello on January 24, 2015, 05:32:08 PM
In Clinton County, MI, Old US 27 is referred to as "27". In the county, the road officially has no name (I think all addresses still use US 27), but in the City of St. Johns, it's called Whittemore St and signed Business US 127.
Also in St. Johns, MI, M-21 is referred to as "M-21" to the best of my knowledge, even though it's called State St.
Is it signed as M-21? If it is, it doesn't count.
In Austin, TX there is a freeway west of and parallel to I-35 . Locals call it "Mopac" for the Missouri-Pacific RR tracks in the median of some of the freeway. The signage is nearly all "Loop 1" and not Mopac.
When my sister got married a number of years ago, lots of family members were late, because they were looking for "Mopac" and not "Loop 1."
It is referred to as Route 42 all the way to the Walt Whitman Bridge in NJ, ignoring the I-76 stretch from I-295 to the bridge.
Madison Boulevard in Madison, AL is still referred to as Highway 20. It doesn't help that Huntsville calls their portion of the same road "Highway 20" despite AL 20 no longer running along it since the 1990s.
Md. 200 is generally still referred to as "the ICC," even though there is no mention of ICC on any BGS panels.
In my area, KY 498 is known as the Cutoff Road. KY 11 north of Beattyville to the Lee/Wolfe county line is called "the new road" because it's a realignment of the old highway. KY 1571 in Estill County is officially called Millers Creek Road but most people call it River Road.
The Glenn Anderson Freeway, I-105, in LA is still often referred to by its prior name, the Century Freeway.
On very rare occasion, and no one here would ever make the mistake, but some think all of the NJ Turnpike is 95.
Quote from: 1 on January 24, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: pianocello on January 24, 2015, 05:32:08 PM
In Clinton County, MI, Old US 27 is referred to as "27". In the county, the road officially has no name (I think all addresses still use US 27), but in the City of St. Johns, it's called Whittemore St and signed Business US 127.
Also in St. Johns, MI, M-21 is referred to as "M-21" to the best of my knowledge, even though it's called State St.
Is it signed as M-21? If it is, it doesn't count.
Fair enough. Fixed.
In Fort Worth, the traffic reporters refer to the part of US 81-US 287 that angles NW from I-35W in the north side of the city as 'the Decatur Cutoff', although I don't think there's ever been any naming or labeling as such.
Occasionally you will hear some of the DFW traffic reporters include a reference to 'the old (or former) DFW Turnpike' when talking about I-30 between Dallas and Fort Worth, even though that section of highway hasn't been tolled since 1978.
In several towns around TX, you might hear locals talk about something being on the _______ Highway, basically meaning the road that goes to __________ (name of next or nearest town in that direction). In many of those cases, the street/road has never been labeled or signed as such. Adding to this, a few of those towns have previous alignments of the current roads leading out of town, with the previous ones getting the Old _______ Highway reference and the current ones getting the New __________ Highway one (again, not always the actual or signed name in some cases).
Quote from: Eth on January 24, 2015, 03:46:58 PM
Though "the Perimeter" is essentially a universal term for I-285, to the best of my knowledge this name is not actually signed anywhere.
I have noticed the same when listening to Atlanta radio in the morning before work. In addition, apparently the busiest section of the Interstate 285/Atlanta Bypass is the northern leg, often referred to as "the top end."
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 24, 2015, 07:08:00 PM
Madison Boulevard in Madison, AL is still referred to as Highway 20. It doesn't help that Huntsville calls their portion of the same road "Highway 20" despite AL 20 no longer running along it since the 1990s.
A tangent of this is the road in Vancouver named Highway 99. It isn't a state route, just the road's name since SR 99 starts/ends almost 150 miles to the North, and thanks to I-5 there is no direct connection to OR 99E or 99W.
I-476 in the Philly area, officially (but never signed as) the Mid-County Expressway, referred to by all as the Blue Route.
I-76 in NJ, considered by most to be part of NJ 42.
In Denton, Tx, FM 2164 north of LOOP 288 is often referred to as "Old Missile Base Rd", cause it has an abandoned underground missile silo near it. The street name blades call it N Locust St.
In Orlando the part of the Orange Blossom Trail signed as US 17 & 92 is always called either OBT or Four Forty One (for US 441). Although both the name and US 441 are correct, nobody even knows that US 17 & 92 exist south of FL 50 in Orlando despite the US 17 & 92 shields stand out more than the US 441 shields do along the route.
For a long time Old Dixie Highway in Taft, Flamingo (now absorbed into Meadow Woods), and Kissimmee was called Orange Avenue to the point that Orange County legislatively renamed Old Dixie Highway to Orange Avenue and then later Osceola County followed suit north of Osceola Parkway.
US 441 in Palm Beach and Broward Counties in Florida is called SR 7 by all locals and the overhead street signs refer to it as such. However, no SR 7 route shields are present.
People still (erroneously) refer to CT 322 east of I-84 as Route 66, and there's even a Deli 66 and Super 66 Liquors that exists on that stretch. CT 229 (home of the Worldwide Leader) is always referred to by its local street name (West/Middle/King). Of course US 5/CT 15 is always the Berlin Turnpike. And US 1 in CT (and Westchester County, for that matter) anywhere west of the Connecticut River is referred to as The Post Road, although it has some other local names.
I distinctly remember years ago someone on this forum telling me that US 23, Georgia's longest US route, is never called by it on any part. Someone gave me the rundown in a post and said it is called by the many route numbers signed concurrent with it.
Then you have the US 25 & 341 concurrency from Jesup to Brunswick that all locals call it just US 341.
Quote from: Alps on January 24, 2015, 04:02:57 PMAlso, NJ 139 (Lower) = "1&9 approach" from when it was US 1/9 Business (original 1/9)
"Covered Roadway"
Here we have the Southeast Expressway, unsigned as such but universally understood. But no talk of the Northeast, Northwest, or Northern Expressways, which are called by their numbers (1, 2, 93).
New Jersey folks refer to the northern part of 95 as "the Turnpike," and maps or traffic reporters call it "80/95," both wrong.
People very often refer to the combination of the Wilbur Cross and Merritt Parkways as "the Merritt."
Nobody ever refers to NV 207 by its number. It's called "Kingsbury Grade", or locally just "Kingsbury" (just as nobody here calls Nevada's state capital "Carson City"; you say "Carson").
This was particularly irritating when I broke down on that road one evening. The distant AAA dispatcher clearly didn't understand where "Kingsbury Grade" was, and it took quite a while before the bell rang and I realized I needed to say "Nevada State Highway 207".
In New York City, there's a whole batch of stuff that's been renamed after people, but everyone still uses the old names and a lot of people don't even know what the new names are:
Jackie Robinson Parkway = Interboro Parkway
RFK Bridge (I-278) = Triboro Bridge
Hugh L. Carey Tunnel (I-478) = Battery Tunnel
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 25, 2015, 11:10:59 PM
Here we have the Southeast Expressway, unsigned as such but universally understood. But no talk of the Northeast, Northwest, or Northern Expressways, which are called by their numbers (1, 2, 93).
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the expressway".
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 25, 2015, 11:10:59 PMHere we have the Southeast Expressway, unsigned as such but universally understood. But no talk of the Northeast, Northwest, or Northern Expressways, which are called by their numbers (1, 2, 93).
That's likely because when the Southeast Expressway was first built, it orginally had
no route number north of Neponset Circle/Granite Ave. and it was simply signed as
Expressway North or
Expressway South. Prior to 1971, MA 3 exited off the expressway and followed the present MA 203 corridor. IMHO, MA 3
should go back to its pre-1971 routing now that
all of the Southeast Expressway is part of I-93 (& US 1); but that's another topic for another thread.
I'm a bit surprised that nobody has yet mentioned I-76 through Philly being referred to as the Schuylkill Expressway (signs indicating the latter were removed years ago) & I-676 as the Vine (St.) Expressway.
Quote from: dgolub on January 26, 2015, 08:51:49 AM
In New York City, there's a whole batch of stuff that's been renamed after people, but everyone still uses the old names and a lot of people don't even know what the new names are:
Jackie Robinson Parkway = Interboro Parkway
RFK Bridge (I-278) = Triboro Bridge
Hugh L. Carey Tunnel (I-478) = Battery Tunnel
That happens with places everywhere. I overheard a gentleman yesterday from the Knights of Columbus tell another man about his former life in Brooklyn. The other man mentioned the bridge named after Gil Hodges and the Brooklyn man did not know what he was talking about until the second man said "Marine Parkway."
So its obvious that a lot more than those you just mentioned are that way including the Avenue of The Americas in Manhattan where people still refer to it as Sixth Avenue several decades later.
That actually reminds me of another one; SR 167 south of Renton, is called by most people, "The Valley Freeway", even though it isn't signed at such, anywhere. I-84 between I-205 and I-5 in Portland is almost universally referred to as "The Banfield [Freeway]", which again, isn't signed officially as such.
I don't think the Eastshore Freeway, Central Freeway or the SF Skyway have ever had their names signed, though all (especially the first two) are well known in the Bay Area. Less well known (but not entirely obscure) is the Warren Freeway section of Route 13.
Many of the named roads north of Detroit, particularly in Oakland County, are called by their Mile Road numbers. E.g. 17 Mile for Wattles.
This also applies to McNichols in Detroit, often called 6 Mile.
Quote from: US81 on January 24, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
In Austin, TX there is a freeway west of and parallel to I-35 . Locals call it "Mopac" for the Missouri-Pacific RR tracks in the median of some of the freeway. The signage is nearly all "Loop 1" and not Mopac.
When my sister got married a number of years ago, lots of family members were late, because they were looking for "Mopac" and not "Loop 1."
There's at least one sign I can think of referring to it as Mopac, so it doesn't count. http://goo.gl/maps/4b0k0
In Louisville, KY, Shephersville Road is always called "Old Shephersville Road" or "Old Shep" despite the lack of any street being signed as "New Shephersville" Road.
It would not surprise me if people in Tuscaloosa still refer to Jack Warner Parkway as River Road.
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In the Omaha area, the only highways referred to by their number are the Interstates and Nebraska Highway 370. Everything else is the official street designation, except that the US 6 freeway in West Omaha gets called Dodge Street, even though it's officially West Dodge Road.
San Diego County Route S21 is called '101' by locals - it's mostly old US 101.
Even though US 78 was rerouted onto what is fast becoming I-22 NW of Birmingham, most people refer to what is now only SR-5 as Highway 78.
Quote from: dfwmapper on January 26, 2015, 08:49:39 PM
Quote from: US81 on January 24, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
In Austin, TX there is a freeway west of and parallel to I-35 . Locals call it "Mopac" for the Missouri-Pacific RR tracks in the median of some of the freeway. The signage is nearly all "Loop 1" and not Mopac.
When my sister got married a number of years ago, lots of family members were late, because they were looking for "Mopac" and not "Loop 1."
There's at least one sign I can think of referring to it as Mopac, so it doesn't count. http://goo.gl/maps/4b0k0
I don't believe that signage was there in 2000 when my sister got married. In any case, I did say "nearly all" in my first post.
As to whether it "counts" - I'm not planning to keep score; however, I still maintain it's in the spirit of the OP.
Really common in New York and New England.
*I-87 is the Northway north of I-90 with very few NYSDOT signs referring to it as such (there was one near Exit 30)
*I-495 (NY) = LIE for entire length , including the "Horace Harding Expressway"
*I-678 = the Van Wyck for the entire length
*NY 135 = the SOB
*NY 17 east of Binghamton = the Quickway
*Sunken Meadow Parkway = Sagtikos Parkway (I've heard native Islanders use them interchangeably)
Quote from: cl94 on January 26, 2015, 10:59:59 PM*NY 135 = the SOB
I'm guessing that reporters love saying that whenever there's an accident or traffic jam present.
Quote from: gonealookin on January 25, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Nobody ever refers to NV 207 by its number. It's called "Kingsbury Grade", or locally just "Kingsbury" (just as nobody here calls Nevada's state capital "Carson City"; you say "Carson").
This is common with many Nevada state highways. Each route has at least one "common" name which is recognized by NDOT in highway logs, but most roadside signs usually say "SR xxx" and leave the common name off. Local media even use the local names without numbers more often than not. Kingsbury Grade/SR 207 is one of many examples.
I'd like to see Nevada start using state highway shields on street name signs, so that local names show up on these signs as well.
Here in Wichita, half the locals call I-135 "I-35". It drives me nuts.
"Highway 50" in O'Fallon, IL, is not US-50. It's not just called that, it's signed that way too.
US 1 through Philly is almost always called either Roosevelt Blvd or The Blvd east of the Schuylkill River (including the freeway portion of it) and west of it City Line Ave (although it's officially City Av).
Quote from: DrSmith on January 24, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
It is referred to as Route 42 all the way to the Walt Whitman Bridge in NJ, ignoring the I-76 stretch from I-295 to the bridge.
Not only that, but just heard in a traffic report: "42 slow from [somewhere] to the Black Horse Pike". The Black Horse Pike there is, of course, route 42. So apparently 42 goes from the Walt Whitman Bridge to the Black Horse Pike. It picks up 2 miles on the north side and loses 7 miles on the south side.
The Manhattan portion of I-95 gets called the Cross Bronx
Quote from: kphoger on February 04, 2015, 12:58:48 PM
Here in Wichita, half the locals call I-135 "I-35". It drives me nuts.
Did that terminology originate from when 135 was 35W? (Though given that 35 itself is on the south edge of town on the Turnpike that still seems a bit absurd)
Probably. Also of note is that I-135 through Wichita, or sometimes just the elevated portion, is referred to by most locals as "The Canal Route". Not a single highway sign refers to it as such, but spoken directing are invariably given with that name.
Memphis used to have a very odd example: TN 300 (the little stub freeway from I-40 ex 240 to US 51) was fairly frequently referred to by radio reporters as the "101 connector." How they came up with that name is anyone's guess. And, of course, the I-40 and I-55 bridges are almost invariably "the new bridge" and "the old bridge," actual names be damned.
In a similar vein to the Atlanta "Perimeter," the I-75/85 multiplex is always "The Downtown Connector," particularly north of I-20. They're so ingrained GDOT even uses these terms (along with "Top End" as mentioned above) on its website. There's also the Athens Perimeter (GA 10 Loop), probably due to Atlanta transplants.
GDOT itself pulls a reverse version of this act by calling North Perry Parkway "Thompson Road" on its I-75 BGSes (and leaving off the US 341 bypass/GA 11 connector designation, to boot), making them the only people to call North Perry Parkway this. In fairness, it was Thompson Road before GDOT coopted it into the Perry Parkway years ago.
Quote from: lordsutch on February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Memphis used to have a very odd example: TN 300 (the little stub freeway from I-40 ex 240 to US 51) was fairly frequently referred to by radio reporters as the "101 connector."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State_Route_300
QuoteLocal media sometimes refers to this short route as the "101 Connector", its former federal aid urban designation (U-101 connector).
Sourced to http://www.worldcat.org/title/administrative-action-for-environmental-impact-section-4-f-statement-interstate-route-240-and-u-101-connector-route-federal-aid-projects-i-240-1745-i-240-1807-i-240-1162-and-u-101-11-memphis-shelby-county-tennessee-final-environmental-statement/oclc/29686162
Quote from: NE2 on February 04, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State_Route_300
QuoteLocal media sometimes refers to this short route as the "101 Connector", its former federal aid urban designation (U-101 connector).
Sourced to http://www.worldcat.org/title/administrative-action-for-environmental-impact-section-4-f-statement-interstate-route-240-and-u-101-connector-route-federal-aid-projects-i-240-1745-i-240-1807-i-240-1162-and-u-101-11-memphis-shelby-county-tennessee-final-environmental-statement/oclc/29686162
Ah, I'd always wondered where they came up with it, especially since you could call it the "51 connector" and it would actually make sense based on the signage. Since I doubt traffic reporters were combing the EISes, the designation must have shown up on a TDOT county or city map at some point.
US 31/280 in Birmingham is referred to as the "Red Mountain Expressway" even though officially it is now known as the "Elton B. Stephens Expressway."
US 231/431 through Huntsville is referred to as "The Parkway" instead of "Memorial Parkway". Sometimes, it is either "North Parkway" or "South Parkway," depending on which part of town is being referred to. Generally, anything north of I-565 is "North Parkway" and anything south is "South Parkway." Further north of Huntsville where it is just called US 231/431, locals still call it "The Parkway."
AL 255 in Huntsville used to be called "Rideout Road" but it is now called "Research Park Blvd." A lot of locals still call it "Rideout Road."
I-22 used to be known as Corridor X (technically it still is, I guess). Even though I-22 is catching on, a lot of locals still call it "Corridor X" or "The Corridor." With the accents in the area, it can be pronounced "Quarter X" or "Corr-durr X."
The MN 62 in Hennepin County is still called "the Crosstown" by oldtimers even though it hasn't been signed as such since MnDOT took it over from the county in 1988.
Quote from: roadfro on January 24, 2015, 02:44:07 PM
Las Vegas, Nevada: It's "Las Vegas Blvd" on signs, but commonly referred to as "The Strip" (and sometimes referred to as "The Boulevard").
Same with Branson, MO. "W 76 Country Blvd" is invariably referred to as "The Strip". I'm not aware of a single road sign referring to it as "The Strip".
The Beachline Expressway in Florida is called that on traffic reports. Yes, Jeb Bush did sign the name into existence during his reign at governor as it used to be the Beeline Expressway.
However when the name change took place most signs greened out the old name and never added the new name. So technically the road is not signed that except in a few places, the supplemental guide on Florida's Turnpike SB for the Orlando Airport at Exit 254, the one mile guides for FL 528 on FL 417, and a brown sign on the beginning of FL 528 EB from I-4, however these are only a few places you might as well considered it a road in name and legislation only.
Quote from: 1 on January 24, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Sam on January 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
MA 128 :)
Only for a few miles. The rest of the corridor is signed as both 95 and 128.
Not quite. Those "few miles" of I-93 between Canton and Braintree are no longer part of 128 - the 128 designation between these points was officially discontinued in 1989.
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 25, 2015, 11:10:59 PM
Here we have the Southeast Expressway, unsigned as such but universally understood. But no talk of the Northeast, Northwest, or Northern Expressways, which are called by their numbers (1, 2, 93).
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the expressway".
As do most of the Boston traffic reporters as well.
Quote from: roadman on February 06, 2015, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 24, 2015, 12:44:55 PM
Quote from: Sam on January 24, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
MA 128 :)
Only for a few miles. The rest of the corridor is signed as both 95 and 128.
Not quite. Those "few miles" of I-93 between Canton and Braintree are no longer part of 128 - the 128 designation between these points was officially discontinued in 1989.
While true (and I agree with the reasoning), such hasn't stopped reporters, locals and the like from
still referring to that I-93 stretch as
Route 128 along with its older/obsolete direction cardinals.
Quote from: froggie on February 05, 2015, 08:55:48 AM
The MN 62 in Hennepin County is still called "the Crosstown" by oldtimers even though it hasn't been signed as such since MnDOT took it over from the county in 1988.
Wasn't the I-35W/MN 62 rebuild referred to as the Crosstown Commons?
Quote from: Bickendan on February 06, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
Quote from: froggie on February 05, 2015, 08:55:48 AM
The MN 62 in Hennepin County is still called "the Crosstown" by oldtimers even though it hasn't been signed as such since MnDOT took it over from the county in 1988.
Wasn't the I-35W/MN 62 rebuild referred to as the Crosstown Commons?
You know...not being from Minnesota, I just assumed "Crosstown" was a common name for the highway; thinking about it more, I guess I just assumed that because Google Maps labels it as such.
Come to think of it, are the Schuylkill and Vine expressways ever signed anywhere? I know that the Schuylkill Ave and Vine Streets are signed, but what about the expressways?
QuoteWasn't the I-35W/MN 62 rebuild referred to as the Crosstown Commons?
MnDOT used the term for the interchange rebuild due to local familiarity, but 62 hasn't officially been named the Crosstown since 1988.
Quote from: bzakharin on February 06, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
Come to think of it, are the Schuylkill and Vine expressways ever signed anywhere? I know that the Schuylkill Ave and Vine Streets are signed, but what about the expressways?
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned that there was once old Schuylkill Expressway signage that referred to I-76 as such. The last remaining signs, likely dating back to the 50s when the Expressway first opened were taken down sometime in the 2000s.
OTOH, the Vine Expressway; I don't believe was ever signed as such. Probably because the eastern half of it (PA 611 to I-95) didn't become reality until 1991.
This is a relatively recent phenomenon around here, since the new US-17 freeway way built from the Jones County line to US-70 here in New Bern.
Officially, mainline US-17 is routed over it to US-70 at it's Exit 410, where they then run concurrently east up to US-70's Exit 417A on the Freedom Memorial Bridge (we call it "The Twin Spans") where US-17 splits off and then runs across the Neuse River Bridge (we call it the Bridgeton Bridge). Yet we locals refer to the new freeway as the "Bypass" or the "17 Bypass" (not to be confused with the real "17 Bypass" further north around Vanceboro, lol).
The section that had been US-17 since, like, forever, from the Jones County line, running NE up past Rhems and River Bend, and on into New Bern along M L King Kr Blvd past the mall and Wal-Mart to US-70 at it's Exit 414 is now officially signed as US-17 Business. It has always been referred to as "17 South" and even 2+ years since the realignment we still refer to that road as "17 South", even those of us in the public safety community. In fact, if someone mentions "17 Business" with no other background info all eyes and minds are focused on Main St in Vanceboro, not MLK in New Bern.
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 06, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 06, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
Come to think of it, are the Schuylkill and Vine expressways ever signed anywhere? I know that the Schuylkill Ave and Vine Streets are signed, but what about the expressways?
Earlier in this thread, I mentioned that there was once old Schuylkill Expressway signage that referred to I-76 as such. The last remaining signs, likely dating back to the 50s when the Expressway first opened were taken down sometime in the 2000s.
OTOH, the Vine Expressway; I don't believe was ever signed as such. Probably because the eastern half of it (PA 611 to I-95) didn't become reality until 1991.
I've seen signs with Schuylkill Expressway and Delaware Expressway on them recently (within the last two years) - pretty sure the Schuylkill signs were in the Fairmount Park area, probably at either Girard or MLK. I've never seen a Vine Expressway sign.
If New York City changes all their old Route Number/ Road name on the same line to just route number only. Then all the expressways that New Yorkers know by name, will eventually be that.
One thing I have to give credit though is the fact that NYCDOT still is keeping "Eastern Long Island" for the EB LIE guides as they have had for ages, however to please the feds they co sign it with "Riverhead."
I am also amazed that "Jersey City" got removed on I-278 on Staten Island for NY 440 N Bound and went back to the "Bayonne Br." That was just added to the list a short time before the newer signs were added as well.
Quote from: odditude on February 07, 2015, 11:50:53 AMI've seen signs with Schuylkill Expressway and Delaware Expressway on them recently (within the last two years) - pretty sure the Schuylkill signs were in the Fairmount Park area, probably at either Girard or MLK.
Those Delaware Expressway signs (with I-95 shields on them) are in Northeast Philly and date back to when I-95 was first built and a handful of them are still around.
As far as signs that actually have the words
Schuylkill Expressway on them; I know for a fact that there no BGS' at Girard Ave. (US 13/30) near the zoo that list such. MLK doesn't even connect to I-76 so one is not likely to see any expressway signs whatsoever along that road. If there's a sign that does indeed mention the Schuylkill Expressway by name on it; it's probably on a small sign of sorts.
The last BGS' listing
Schuylkill Expressway on them I'm aware of
were (past tense intentional since the signs are no gone) located at the PA 291/Oregon Ave. interchange (Exits 347A-B) in South Philly.
It seems to me that a lot of these posts (my own included) are about numbered routes going by a certain name. Some have been about numbered routes going by another number or named routes going by a number, both of which are usually due to decommissioned routes or what have you. But how many examples are out there of named routes going by a different name?
In West Virginia, US 219/US 250/WV 55/WV 92 between Elkins and Beverly is officially named Beverly Pike but is generally called the "Beverly 5-Lane" by locals.
Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 04:22:25 PM
But how many examples are out there of named routes going by a different name?
"Avenue of the Americas" never being called that in Manhattan (though the original name, 6th Avenue, IS signed for the most part).
Signed freeway names in SF that are not used by the public at all include "John F. Foran Freeway" for 280 from Route 1 to 5th Street (Southern Freeway) and "James Lick Freeway" for 101 south of the Central Freeway (which has always been known by its original moniker, the Bayshore Freeway).
Sacramento has 2 odd freeways known by a different number Capital City Freeway I-305 is hidden but is known as Business 80 and US-50.
Business 80 at CA-99 in Midtown Sacramento is really Hidden CA-51.
Does "the next left", "the next right", or anything similar count as a different name? (Only in places where it would be common, like a short concurrency. Example: MA 125 at MA 114.)
Quote from: 1 on February 09, 2015, 11:28:04 AM
Does "the next left", "the next right", or anything similar count as a different name? (Only in places where it would be common, like a short concurrency. Example: MA 125 at MA 114.)
Not unless "my street" counts as a different name. I say it all the time–"park anywhere once you're on my street," "a family that lives on my street..." But no.
Quote from: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 04:22:25 PM
It seems to me that a lot of these posts (my own included) are about numbered routes going by a certain name. Some have been about numbered routes going by another number or named routes going by a number, both of which are usually due to decommissioned routes or what have you. But how many examples are out there of named routes going by a different name?
The Feeder Ramps in Chicago connecting River North with the Kennedy Expressway. Officially, they're Ohio and Ontario Streets. Everyone just calls them the Feeder Ramps, including the traffic reporters.
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 07, 2015, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: odditude on February 07, 2015, 11:50:53 AMI've seen signs with Schuylkill Expressway and Delaware Expressway on them recently (within the last two years) - pretty sure the Schuylkill signs were in the Fairmount Park area, probably at either Girard or MLK.
Those Delaware Expressway signs (with I-95 shields on them) are in Northeast Philly and date back to when I-95 was first built and a handful of them are still around.
As far as signs that actually have the words Schuylkill Expressway on them; I know for a fact that there no BGS' at Girard Ave. (US 13/30) near the zoo that list such. MLK doesn't even connect to I-76 so one is not likely to see any expressway signs whatsoever along that road. If there's a sign that does indeed mention the Schuylkill Expressway by name on it; it's probably on a small sign of sorts.
The last BGS' listing Schuylkill Expressway on them I'm aware of were (past tense intentional since the signs are no gone) located at the PA 291/Oregon Ave. interchange (Exits 347A-B) in South Philly.
Speaking of which, the BGSs for MLK Drive exit still haven't been updated. They still say Montgomery Ave/West River Drive even though the road changed names almost 10 years ago.
People along the former US 74 alignment (where the current I-74/US 74 multiplex exist) will refer the road as "Old 74." It's legally, "US ALT 74."
I've heard locals (especially of the older generation) refer to any of Old York Rd-PA 177-PA 382 between Dillsburg, Rossville, and Lewisberry, PA as Space Highway. I think this is because a) the roads seem to go to nowhere populated and b) they are built with seemingly much higher design speeds than any other 2-lane roads around the immediate area, with wider lanes, long straightaways, and gentle curves.
PA 177's real name is Rosstown* Road between Rossville and the Warrington-Newberry Twp line, and then is Rossville Road to Lewisberry. PA 382's real name is Lewisberry Road, which it inherits at its north end from PA 114. Old York Road's name has historically been poorly signed, I didn't even know the name of it till I was 22 and we used it to go to York all the time as a kid. Old York Road is also interesting because it effectively serves as a faster PA 74, bypassing Wellsville. PennDOT wanted to route 74 onto Old York but they're having some difficulty deciding how to handle the Dillsburg end.
*I don't know why Warrington can't seem to do anything right with PA 177. Rosstown Rd? The place is named Rossville! Signing PA 177 as East-West at the intersection with Pinetown Rd** when it's a North-South highway? Sure.
**This refers to the Pinetown Rd that intersects 177 at Pinchot State Park, not the Pinetown Rd nearer to Lewisberry. We SUCK at creative road names out here. There are 3 Lisburn Roads (2 of which intersect each other), 3 Old York Roads, 2 Ridge Roads, 2 Pinetown Roads (which nearly intersect each other), at least 2 Lewisberry Roads, at least 2 Mount Airy Roads, 2 Siddonsburg Roads, 3+ York Roads, and 2 Andersontown Roads. All these are separate, distinct roads that are within a few miles of each other. When I see unique names like Thundergust Mill Rd, I smile.
Seattle's dwindling number of state highways are almost never referred to by their numbers.
- SR 99: Split between Aurora Avenue, the Alaskan Way Viaduct, or East Marginal Way
- SR 513: Montlake Boulevard or Sand Point Way
- SR 519: I don't even know where it is anymore, between all the lane shifts from the viaduct replacement construction.
- SR 520: Referred to by number. The floating bridge it uses is never referred to by its official name, but as the "520 floating bridge".
That said, Seattle needs more named freeways.
A map NE2 posted in the New Jersey Turnpike thread prompted me to think of the Bay Ridge neighborhood in Brooklyn. The street referred to as Bay Ridge Avenue on the road signs and subway map is universally known as 69th Street locally. If you call it "Bay Ridge Avenue," a lot of residents won't realize where you mean.
Quote from: The Nature Boy on February 09, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
People along the former US 74 alignment (where the current I-74/US 74 multiplex exist) will refer the road as "Old 74." It's legally, "US ALT 74."
A lot of people call US 1 in MA between Danvers and Newburyport as "Old Route 1" despite it still being US 1. I've wondered if it's a relic from when what is now I-95 was built, where they put 1 onto it and renumbered the current 1 to MA 17 for a few years.
In Alaska and Hawaii, it is completely unexceptional for people to refer to highways by name rather than route number. But for a few roads people use an unofficial name rather than the official and signed name. For example, Alaska's Dalton Highway (AK 11) is often called the "Haul Road". On Hawaii's Big Island, county 137 is officially the Kaimu-Kapoho Road (name is poorly signed if at all), but most people call it the "Red Road" (http://www.hawaiihighways.com/photos-Red-Road.htm) even though most of the original red cinder pavement has been covered by either smoother black asphalt or rougher black lava (http://www.hawaiihighways.com/photos-Lava-Closures-page2.htm).
On Maui, many people call the county-owned part of the Piilani Highway south of the Haleakala volcano (county 31) part of the Hana Highway. It doesn't help that part of CR 31 south of Hana is officially part of the Hana Highway, and there is only one pair of signs at Kalepa Gulch south of Kipahulu informing motorists of the name change at that point.
Quote from: Cjzani on March 16, 2015, 11:12:52 AMA lot of people call US 1 in MA between Danvers and Newburyport as "Old Route 1" despite it still being US 1. I've wondered if it's a relic from when what is now I-95 was built, where they put 1 onto it and renumbered the current 1 to MA 17 for a few years.
That's very likely. While most may not recall the short-lived MA 17 designation for US 1; they do remember that I-95 was originally constructed & signed as (the new or relocated) US 1.
My mother is one of those that refers to that stretch of US 1 as the
Old Route 1.
I'm surprised a big one hasn't shown up.
Pittsburgh has the Parkway West and Parkway East along what is now I-376. Parkway West basically is I-376 from around the airport to the I-279 interchange, while Parkway East is from I-279 to I-76. Sometimes people will reference I-279 north out of town to I-79 as Parkway North, but not nearly as often as Parkway West or Parkway East.
Quote from: bzakharin on February 04, 2015, 04:32:19 PM
The Manhattan portion of I-95 gets called the Cross Bronx
I don't believe I've ever seen any signage at all calling it by its technically correct name, the Trans-Manhattan Expressway. It is, after all, only 0.8 miles long.
The OK 51 freeway in Tulsa is known as "The BA" (Broken Arrow Expressway). The downtown loop (I-244/444) is known as "The IDL" (Inner Dispersal Loop). Mena Street in Arkansas is known as "Main Street".
Quote from: NE2 on February 04, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: lordsutch on February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Memphis used to have a very odd example: TN 300 (the little stub freeway from I-40 ex 240 to US 51) was fairly frequently referred to by radio reporters as the "101 connector."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State_Route_300
QuoteLocal media sometimes refers to this short route as the "101 Connector", its former federal aid urban designation (U-101 connector).
Sourced to http://www.worldcat.org/title/administrative-action-for-environmental-impact-section-4-f-statement-interstate-route-240-and-u-101-connector-route-federal-aid-projects-i-240-1745-i-240-1807-i-240-1162-and-u-101-11-memphis-shelby-county-tennessee-final-environmental-statement/oclc/29686162
Also: U-101: T-300?
OR 104S: Not signed, its streetname blades call it "Alt US 101". Even better, "Alt US 101" on the other side of US 101 has a segment with no route number, then runs concurrent with Bus US 101.
In South Carolina, SC277 is often referred to as "I-277," especially on advertisements in the newspaper for car dealerships. They'll even put the 277 on an interstate shield.
Prior to 2013, the Sydney-Newcastle Freeway, signed as National Highway 1, was commonly referred to as the 'F3', reflecting the originally planned Freeway Route F3 route number allocated to the freeway but was never signposted due to the abandonment of the superfluous Freeway Route system before the route was constructed. Since the introduction of Alphanumeric route numbering system in New South Wales in 2013, the freeway has been renamed the 'M1 Pacific Motorway' and is now commonly referred to as the M1 in traffic reports.
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the world's longest parking lot."
Fixed.
Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the world's longest parking lot."
Fixed.
needs more expletives.
Practically any freeway in Chicago sans I-57
Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the world's longest parking lot."
Fixed.
No, the Long Island Expressway is the world's longest parking lot
Quote from: tribar on May 07, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Practically any freeway in Chicago sans I-57
They're signed. They are marked on the big green signs, and they are even marked on street blades at interchanges.
Quote from: Brandon on May 07, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Quote from: tribar on May 07, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Practically any freeway in Chicago sans I-57
They're signed. They are marked on the big green signs, and they are even marked on street blades at interchanges.
I thought this was what people referred to them as, not how they were signed. My bad.
Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the distressway."
Fixed.
Fixed again
Quote from: roadman on May 08, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: SidS1045 on May 06, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on January 26, 2015, 09:01:02 AM
most folks on the South Shore simply refer to the Southeast Expressway as "the Pulaski Skyway."
Fixed.
Fixed again
Fixed ag... wait, never mind–reusing the name of a major bridge for a few inconspicuous miles of highway would be absurd.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 16, 2015, 09:42:09 AM
A map NE2 posted in the New Jersey Turnpike thread prompted me to think of the Bay Ridge neighborhood in Brooklyn. The street referred to as Bay Ridge Avenue on the road signs and subway map is universally known as 69th Street locally. If you call it "Bay Ridge Avenue," a lot of residents won't realize where you mean.
It is like Avenue of The Americas never being accepted by New Yorkers either. If you call it that, many who live in the City will not know what you are talking about. However, people from New Jersey would call it by the right name because we were always unaware of the revolt in name by New Yorkers.
At least NYCDOT fixed it by signing both names now, or should I say for the past three decades now. Sorry when you guys hit 30, time will fly by so fast.
The (infamous) corridor in D.C. and Maryland of I-295/D.C. 295/Md. 201/Baltimore-Washington Parkway (federal)/Md. 295 (B-W Parkway (state-maintained)) is frequently messed-up.
The D.C. part is often referred to as I-295, even north of the I-695 interchange, where it is a "state" route.
The short part of Md. 201 that is part of the corridor is often called "Route 295," even though it is not.
The federal part of the B-W Parkway is called "295," even though it is not signed that way.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 25, 2015, 05:01:02 PM
The (infamous) corridor in D.C. and Maryland of I-295/D.C. 295/Md. 201/Baltimore-Washington Parkway (federal)/Md. 295 (B-W Parkway (state-maintained)) is frequently messed-up.
The D.C. part is often referred to as I-295, even north of the I-695 interchange, where it is a "state" route.
The short part of Md. 201 that is part of the corridor is often called "Route 295," even though it is not.
The federal part of the B-W Parkway is called "295," even though it is not signed that way.
In addition,
nobody refers to I-695 as the McKeldin Beltway. It is always referred to as the Baltimore Beltway, when needed to distinguish it from the other Beltway, or as "The Beltway" the rest of the time.
Many non road geeks calls the entire length of the Turnpike as I-95 when its not.
Then there is those who call I-78 in Jersey City en approach to the Holland Tunnel as one and nine.
How about NJ 495 still being called Route 3 by many.
Then there are some ignorant people in Central Florida who call the part of Orange Blossom Trail in Kissimmee, FL that is not part of US 441 as still being Highway 441.
In Hampton Roads, Virginia, it seems that many still refer to the I-264 section east of the I-64 interchange in Norfolk as "Route 44" or "The Expressway".
Quote from: Pink Jazz on May 25, 2015, 09:33:15 PM
In Hampton Roads, Virginia, it seems that many still refer to the I-264 section east of the I-64 interchange in Norfolk as "Route 44" or "The Expressway".
Really? Having lived in the region for nearly 13 years, I don't think I've ever heard someone call it that.
You're probably too young to remember, but 44 went away in 2001. But in my two stints stationed there, I never heard it called "The Expressway" either. "264" was in standard nomenclature by ca. 2005.
I seem to recall it being referred to a lot as the Virginia Beach Toll Road or the Virginia Beach Expressway in the early 1990s...
Mike
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 26, 2015, 11:35:08 AM
I seem to recall it being referred to a lot as the Virginia Beach Toll Road or the Virginia Beach Expressway in the early 1990s...
Mike
I lived down there as a kid in the early 90s and always remembered people just call it 44.