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Title: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: bugo on February 05, 2015, 12:47:29 AM
According to the latest ODOT maps, US 377 and its sidekick OK 99 hop off of the freeway loop and follow city streets through downtown Ada. They follow a road with 2 90 degree turns. Google maps shows US 377 following the bypass. Did they reroute it or does it still hop off the freeway? The latest Google images show where 377 and 99 still hopping off the freeway:

http://goo.gl/maps/TEJv3

If it does indeed. still go into Ada, then it means that the bypasses are signed at various locations as OK 1, OK 3, and OK 3E. There is no single number for the bypass. It is known that they didn't renumber the OK 99 route when the bypass was first built, unless they recently rerouted the highways.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: okc1 on February 05, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
Last I checked, it still went through Ada.  Not through the downtown core, but east of it on Mississippi.

Another thing on 377.  The official state map shows it running to Stroud, but it is signed only as OK 99 north of I-40.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: NE2 on February 05, 2015, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: okc1 on February 05, 2015, 09:56:26 AM
Another thing on 377.  The official state map shows it running to Stroud, but it is signed only as OK 99 north of I-40.
??? It's definitely signed north to Stroud.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: okc1 on February 05, 2015, 02:25:17 PM
For some reason, 377 signs don't appear between I-40 and Prague
http://goo.gl/maps/H53UY
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: NE2 on February 05, 2015, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: okc1 on February 05, 2015, 02:25:17 PM
For some reason, 377 signs don't appear between I-40 and Prague
http://goo.gl/maps/H53UY

Probably a vandal from AASHTO.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Scott5114 on February 06, 2015, 04:19:15 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 05, 2015, 10:09:11 PM
SH-99 follows US-377 throughout the latter's entire stay in Oklahoma. My guess is that US-377 simply continues to follow the route that it did before the Richardson Loop was built and ODOT just never bothered to reroute it. Note that the expressway between Ada and the Canadian River is fairly recent construction (i.e. opened in the last 10 years or so). Before that US-377/SH-99/SH-3E followed Broadway north through Byng.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: rte66man on February 07, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 05, 2015, 10:09:11 PM
SH-99 follows US-377 throughout the latter's entire stay in Oklahoma. My guess is that US-377 simply continues to follow the route that it did before the Richardson Loop was built and ODOT just never bothered to reroute it. Note that the expressway between Ada and the Canadian River is fairly recent construction (i.e. opened in the last 10 years or so). Before that US-377/SH-99/SH-3E followed Broadway north through Byng.

And OTA created some of the WORST BGS's at Stroud.  Instead of shifting the OK99 shield to make room for US377, it looks as if someone ran by, stuck a shield on, then ran off.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Scott5114 on February 09, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: rte66man on February 07, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 05, 2015, 10:09:11 PM
SH-99 follows US-377 throughout the latter's entire stay in Oklahoma. My guess is that US-377 simply continues to follow the route that it did before the Richardson Loop was built and ODOT just never bothered to reroute it. Note that the expressway between Ada and the Canadian River is fairly recent construction (i.e. opened in the last 10 years or so). Before that US-377/SH-99/SH-3E followed Broadway north through Byng.

And OTA created some of the WORST BGS's at Stroud.  Instead of shifting the OK99 shield to make room for US377, it looks as if someone ran by, stuck a shield on, then ran off.


It's not the last time they've done that:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft4DpyzM.jpg&hash=d99ebfe018b97b2e5ed939c54bd14131026b93bc)
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: NE2 on February 09, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
That shield placement maybe be technically wrong (the worst kind of wrong) but TURNPIKE.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Scott5114 on February 09, 2015, 05:37:47 PM
Yeah, the ugly Turnpike banner was the main reason I took that photo. Also of note is that this is along the US-62/277 concurrency, but fuck 277, amirite?
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: rte66man on February 09, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 09, 2015, 05:37:47 PM
Yeah, the ugly Turnpike banner was the main reason I took that photo. Also of note is that this is along the US-62/277 concurrency, but fuck 277, amirite?

What is the official north end of 277?  There is ZERO reason for it past Chickasha.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: NE2 on February 09, 2015, 09:22:02 PM
277 ends at the I-44 merge, just like US 81 at I-35W.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Scott5114 on February 10, 2015, 02:15:17 AM
Quote from: rte66man on February 09, 2015, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 09, 2015, 05:37:47 PM
Yeah, the ugly Turnpike banner was the main reason I took that photo. Also of note is that this is along the US-62/277 concurrency, but fuck 277, amirite?

What is the official north end of 277?  There is ZERO reason for it past Chickasha.

The very first sign for US-277 southbound after splitting from I-44 is in Series A. That's reason enough for it to exist for me. ;)
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: bugo on March 20, 2015, 07:13:17 AM
<fantasyroads>US 277 should be extended north to US 60 or US 64 and US 377 should be extended to Nebraska</fantasyroads>
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Scott5114 on March 20, 2015, 08:26:24 PM
Along what corridor, SH-74? As much as I like SH-74 I don't think it's major enough to get the pointy shield.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Bobby5280 on March 20, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft4DpyzM.jpg&hash=d99ebfe018b97b2e5ed939c54bd14131026b93bc)

Just gotta love it when people distort fonts out of their native proportions in the computer. That example of what I call "font murder" exposes another one of the design deficiencies in current highway sign type families. There are no native extended weights in any of them. Other "super font" families like Helvetica Neue have entire families drawn in extended versions, from hairline weight to black. There are other type families, like Briller, that are designed just for extended type needs.
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: OracleUsr on March 21, 2015, 12:43:40 AM
Why?  Because that's where the signs are!  (walks away)
Title: Re: Why does US 377 go through Ada, OK
Post by: Scott5114 on March 22, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
OTA could have easily done Series F there, but instead we got ...that.

I'm gonna have to steal the phrase "font murder".