The Northern California city of Hayward has recently installed a number of quirky signs to try and get drivers' attention.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_27498974/haywards-quirky-traffic-signs-grab-drivers-attention
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Obviously these are not MUTCD-compliant, and I wonder how effective they will be once the novelty of seeing them the first time or two wear off...
Well, worse, the bottom part of that second sign is black and white regulatory. Which means updating facebook is now mandatory. :D
They wont last long.....ILLDOT had NO sense of humor with those STOP sign add-ons some years ago...
What's the symbol next to 'not a suggestion'?
Quote from: NE2 on February 11, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
What's the symbol next to 'not a suggestion'?
Looks like a cashbox with money dropping in
Quote from: NE2 on February 11, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
What's the symbol next to 'not a suggestion'?
It looks like a suggestion box with a suggestion on a slip of paper sliding into the top of it...
Yeah, that's probably it.
Many towns in southeastern PA have placed these supplemental signs underneath STOP signs.
(https://inthecrowds.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/rolling-stops.png)
It's no surprise that many of these are erected on STOP signs that were erected for speed control (a MUTCD no-no) along local (non-PennDOT) streets.
Quote from: jdbx on February 11, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
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So keeping your head up while crossing the street is an advisory, but updating Facebook is mandatory?
All those Pennsylvania signs like "Buckle Up Next Million Miles."
These seem like more of a distraction than anything else.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 11, 2015, 08:07:05 PM
All those Pennsylvania signs like "Buckle Up Next Million Miles."
Since New Hampshire stands in the way if you try to go north or south to circumnavigate the globe, isn't that also factually inaccurate?
Quote from: The Nature Boy on February 11, 2015, 10:17:12 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 11, 2015, 08:07:05 PM
All those Pennsylvania signs like "Buckle Up Next Million Miles."
Since New Hampshire stands in the way if you try to go north or south to circumnavigate the globe, isn't that also factually inaccurate?
No. Nobody drives in a straight line, you insensitive clod.
I don't know if it fits on the quirky, best of, worst of, or worth any road sign thread at all, but I do like Manchester Township's (NJ) "NO" signs, such as this one:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=40.031597,-74.25322&spn=0.000004,0.00327&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.031532,-74.253858&panoid=d-lzW9q61wP7n0aqOoYLvg&cbp=12,265.64,,0,2.5 (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=40.031597,-74.25322&spn=0.000004,0.00327&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.031532,-74.253858&panoid=d-lzW9q61wP7n0aqOoYLvg&cbp=12,265.64,,0,2.5)
Zooming in on GSV today is the first time I was actually able to read the text, and the smaller sign attached to it. The text should include "Reading of this sign at highway speeds" as well.
They helpfully widen the shoulder so you can read it :bigass:
Those "Slow down my daddy workƨ here" signs at construction sites though all the time I've seen those signs, I've seen more "Slow down my mommy workƨ here" signs even though less than 3% of road construction workers are female.
I suppose those signs directed at the truckers on eastbound I-70 approaching Denver from the west might qualify, the ones that include "Truckers, You Are Not Down Yet" and the like.
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Quote from: admtrap on February 11, 2015, 01:28:34 PM
Well, worse, the bottom part of that second sign is black and white regulatory. Which means updating facebook is now mandatory. :D
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 11, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
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So keeping your head up while crossing the street is an advisory, but updating Facebook is mandatory?
Truth be told, who else besides engineers, road/sign geeks, and/or those studying for their driver's license test will actually notice that the background colors for that sign are erroneous/reversed?
I think we all can agree that the upper portion of the sign should be white (regulatory) but I'd be a tad hesitant to say that the lower portion background should be yellow (advisory). Personally, I'd either make it blue w/white lettering (for general services) or brown w/white lettering (for cultural/recreational services). Given that it's Facebook the sign's referring to, I would go with the latter. :sombrero:
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 11, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Truth be told, who else besides engineers, road/sign geeks, and/or those studying for their driver's license test will actually notice that the background colors for that sign are erroneous/reversed?
Attorneys for one.
Quote from: roadman on February 12, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 12, 2015, 09:37:06 AMTruth be told, who else besides engineers, road/sign geeks, and/or those studying for their driver's license test will actually notice that the background colors for that sign are erroneous/reversed?
Attorneys for one.
While technically true, since the sign is primarily directed towards pedestrians (as opposed to motorists); I honestly don't believe that a pedestrian getting hit by a vehicle
due to their looking down at their cell/smart phone is going to successfully defend their actions (assuming the vehicle wasn't running a red signal) in court (outside of perjury).
St. Paul once installed "art" signs as traffic calming.
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Quote from: PHLBOS on February 12, 2015, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on February 12, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 12, 2015, 09:37:06 AMTruth be told, who else besides engineers, road/sign geeks, and/or those studying for their driver's license test will actually notice that the background colors for that sign are erroneous/reversed?
Attorneys for one.
While technically true, since the sign is primarily directed towards pedestrians (as opposed to motorists); I honestly don't believe that a pedestrian getting hit by a vehicle due to their looking down at their cell/smart phone is going to successfully defend their actions (assuming the vehicle wasn't running a red signal) in court (outside of perjury).
Especially since updating facebook is the only activity actually required by that sign.
Anti-panhandling signs, Whitehall OH
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The anti-profanity signs in Virginia Beach caught my eye. (I have a photo somewhere.)
Definitely quirky, and definitely controversial:
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From http://www.ocalapost.com/pullem-up-pay-up-or-go-to-jail-no-more-saggy-pants-its-the-law/
Quote from: hbelkins on February 13, 2015, 11:49:12 PM
The anti-profanity signs in Virginia Beach caught my eye. (I have a photo somewhere.)
They're unenforceable and probably illegal (but who knows, with cops allowed to lie).
Quote from: Zeffy on February 13, 2015, 11:57:51 PM
Definitely quirky, and definitely controversial:
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From http://www.ocalapost.com/pullem-up-pay-up-or-go-to-jail-no-more-saggy-pants-its-the-law/
Waiting for the next step in the process, which is wearing no pants at all, and vandalizing the signs to tell others to do the same.
Quote from: NE2 on February 14, 2015, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 13, 2015, 11:49:12 PM
The anti-profanity signs in Virginia Beach caught my eye. (I have a photo somewhere.)
They're unenforceable and probably illegal (but who knows, with cops allowed to lie).
I think they have them in either Rehoboth Beach or Ocean City, MD too (which my friend and I who are pretty liberal with cuss words promptly mocked with an avalanche of foul language)
This article has some more head-on photos of the Hayward signs:
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Heads-up-Hayward-debuts-snarky-traffic-signs-6079819.php
I think, rather than a cashbox, it's supposed to be a suggestion box (note the 35 on the paper going into the box).
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2015, 07:02:04 PM
Many towns in southeastern PA have placed these supplemental signs underneath STOP signs.
(https://inthecrowds.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/rolling-stops.png)
It's no surprise that many of these are erected on STOP signs that were erected for speed control (a MUTCD no-no) along local (non-PennDOT) streets.
Heh my borough doesn't seem to care whether the road is PennDOT owned or not. There's a couple of clear speed control stop signs up around here on SRs and they all have that nice little ticket menu on it.
I've always thought New Hampshire's "BRAKE FOR MOOSE" (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7616492814_25824a68f9_b.jpg) signs were quirky.
Quote from: Ian on February 14, 2015, 06:32:39 PM
I've always thought New Hampshire's "BRAKE FOR MOOSE" (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7616492814_25824a68f9_b.jpg) signs were quirky.
I guess the following deserves inclusion too. I mentioned this in the "Unique Signs" thread (and am just quoting that post here), but the signs are certainly quirky:
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 04, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
You can find signs like this on the Dulles Greenway in Virginia. A local woman spent $3,000 to have four of them manufactured and posted along the highway after she was unable to rescue a turtle crossing the road from being squashed.
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Quote from: ekt8750 on February 14, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2015, 07:02:04 PM
Many towns in southeastern PA have placed these supplemental signs underneath STOP signs.
(https://inthecrowds.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/rolling-stops.png)
It's no surprise that many of these are erected on STOP signs that were erected for speed control (a MUTCD no-no) along local (non-PennDOT) streets.
Heh my borough doesn't seem to care whether the road is PennDOT owned or not. There's a couple of clear speed control stop signs up around here on SRs and they all have that nice little ticket menu on it.
Are you sure the road in question is
still an SR? I ask that because one street near me
had an SR assigned to it but the township took the road back from PennDOT and 3 to 4
STOP signs were erected along the road in short order.
I called PennDOT to inquire, and their response to me was that the township wanted to erect
STOP signs for speed control but PennDOT refused due to MUTCD policy. The township responded by taking the road from PennDOT.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 13, 2015, 11:49:12 PM
The anti-profanity signs in Virginia Beach caught my eye. (I have a photo somewhere.)
IIRC, most of those were erected on the Boardwalk and along nearby streets.
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My father lives down there, so I get there a few times a year. Caught me off-guard when they were first installed -- first time I saw them was at night. Some of the beach souvenir shops have fridge magnets with this logo. I ended up getting one of those, which I have mounted proudly in my office. Somehow, it does not prove to be overly effective . . . .
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 16, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 14, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2015, 07:02:04 PM
Many towns in southeastern PA have placed these supplemental signs underneath STOP signs.
(https://inthecrowds.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/rolling-stops.png)
It's no surprise that many of these are erected on STOP signs that were erected for speed control (a MUTCD no-no) along local (non-PennDOT) streets.
Heh my borough doesn't seem to care whether the road is PennDOT owned or not. There's a couple of clear speed control stop signs up around here on SRs and they all have that nice little ticket menu on it.
Are you sure the road in question is still an SR? I ask that because one street near me had an SR assigned to it but the township took the road back from PennDOT and 3 to 4 STOP signs were erected along the road in short order.
I called PennDOT to inquire, and their response to me was that the township wanted to erect STOP signs for speed control but PennDOT refused due to MUTCD policy. The township responded by taking the road from PennDOT.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 13, 2015, 11:49:12 PM
The anti-profanity signs in Virginia Beach caught my eye. (I have a photo somewhere.)
IIRC, most of those were erected on the Boardwalk and along nearby streets.
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So basically the sign says NO S---
The Palos Verdes Peninsula is some hills connected to Los Angeles by the coastal plain, and there is a road (Palos Verdes Drive) that loops around this peninsula, offering fantastic views of the ocean and (when the weather is clear), Santa Catalina Island. A one-mile section of this road on the south shore of the peninsula runs across an area that is very landslide-prone and unstable between the earthquakes and the sometimes-wild winter rains. There are signs along the road announcing "CONSTANT EARTH MOVEMENT" or something like that and the stretch of road has to be driven with care; it's like a roller-coaster. They are always having to patch it because of the changing landscape. "Portuguese Bend" is the name of that particular stretch of coastline.
When I'm driving down a road, I don't want my earth to move; I want it to stay put!
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 16, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 14, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2015, 07:02:04 PM
Many towns in southeastern PA have placed these supplemental signs underneath STOP signs.
(https://inthecrowds.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/rolling-stops.png)
It's no surprise that many of these are erected on STOP signs that were erected for speed control (a MUTCD no-no) along local (non-PennDOT) streets.
Heh my borough doesn't seem to care whether the road is PennDOT owned or not. There's a couple of clear speed control stop signs up around here on SRs and they all have that nice little ticket menu on it.
Are you sure the road in question is still an SR? I ask that because one street near me had an SR assigned to it but the township took the road back from PennDOT and 3 to 4 STOP signs were erected along the road in short order.
Last I checked it was. SR2011 to be exact. They actually pull a similar speed control stunt on US 13/Chester Pike. Most of the road is signed 40MPH but Sharon Hill drops the road down to 35 for no reason whatsoever. As soon as you leave town it pops back up to 40.
Quote from: hm insulators on February 24, 2015, 03:27:37 PM
The Palos Verdes Peninsula is some hills connected to Los Angeles by the coastal plain, and there is a road (Palos Verdes Drive) that loops around this peninsula, offering fantastic views of the ocean and (when the weather is clear), Santa Catalina Island. A one-mile section of this road on the south shore of the peninsula runs across an area that is very landslide-prone and unstable between the earthquakes and the sometimes-wild winter rains. There are signs along the road announcing "CONSTANT EARTH MOVEMENT" or something like that and the stretch of road has to be driven with care; it's like a roller-coaster. They are always having to patch it because of the changing landscape. "Portuguese Bend" is the name of that particular stretch of coastline.
When I'm driving down a road, I don't want my earth to move; I want it to stay put!
http://goo.gl/maps/iDL3W and http://goo.gl/maps/Mu8ux
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 25, 2015, 01:12:56 AMLast I checked it was. SR2011 to be exact.
Is there a
STOP AHEAD warning sign (MUTCD W3-1) placed a few yards prior to it? If so, than
that particular
STOP sign (not the placard underneath)
may have been erected for legitimate reasons (traffic).
The stretch of road I was referring to earlier BTW that the locals took back from PennDOT to erect speed-control-induced
STOP signs was Franklin Ave. (part of SR 2010, prior to the
STOP signs being erected) in Ridley Township, Delaware County.
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 25, 2015, 01:12:56 AM
They actually pull a similar speed control stunt on US 13/Chester Pike. Most of the road is signed 40MPH but Sharon Hill drops the road down to 35 for no reason whatsoever. As soon as you leave town it pops back up to 40.
Upper Darby Township recently did similar for a stretch of Providence Road/SR 2010 between the Aldan border (Springfield Road) and the Yeadon border; the posted speed was lowered from 35 to 25.
While such was probably done for speed control/traffic calming reasons; I don't believe such an approach is flat-out prohibited by MUTCD, whereas the use of
STOP signs for such is indeed spelled out in the MUTCD as a no-no.
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 25, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 25, 2015, 01:12:56 AMLast I checked it was. SR2011 to be exact.
Is there a STOP AHEAD warning sign (MUTCD W3-1) placed a few yards prior to it? If so, than that particular STOP sign (not the placard underneath) may have been erected for legitimate reasons (traffic).
There might be one heading south cause of the fact that intersection is at the bottom of an underpass. I still think that intersection would be fine as a 2 way stop though.
QuoteThe stretch of road I was referring to earlier BTW that the locals took back from PennDOT to erect speed-control-induced STOP signs was Franklin Ave. (part of SR 2010, prior to the STOP signs being erected) in Ridley Township, Delaware County.
Ridley loves their fun raising measures lol.
Quote
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 25, 2015, 01:12:56 AM
They actually pull a similar speed control stunt on US 13/Chester Pike. Most of the road is signed 40MPH but Sharon Hill drops the road down to 35 for no reason whatsoever. As soon as you leave town it pops back up to 40.
Upper Darby Township recently did similar for a stretch of Providence Road/SR 2010 between the Aldan border (Springfield Road) and the Yeadon border; the posted speed was lowered from 35 to 25.
While such was probably done for speed control/traffic calming reasons; I don't believe such an approach is flat-out prohibited by MUTCD, whereas the use of STOP signs for such is indeed spelled out in the MUTCD as a no-no.
Yeah there was a deadly hit and run just before Providence Rd last year and I'm sure that was the reactionary measure.
This sign sits at 26th & Penrose at the foot of the Platt Bridge in Philly. People do tend to speed over the bridge but at the same time I think the bridge could handle a higher speed limit than the 35 MPH that's posted.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.906511,-75.19382,3a,42.8y,229.53h,78.55t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7lWlo4ZzF6XfcVY8co4Lbw!2e0
Southaven, Mississippi
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.981351,-89.978846,3a,15y,204.39h,82.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKw7i4JlYhVg_kdjL6Ej13Q!2e0
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Peacock Xing sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.244144,-77.779137,3a,30y,284.93h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1syL8uufi36pLAzdhDFSJQ6w!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en)