So Sioux Falls has three different business Interstate routes. Are there any other cities with more?
(and to widen the field, why not throw in other kinds of business routes as well. It'll make it more fun. I think Casper has 4 combined (one I, 3 US), and that's the best I can think of right now. Any more?)
Warrenton, VA has four. What makes it particularly special is that 15 and 211 Biz go right through downtown, while 17 and 29 Biz actually follow the first-generation bypass (along with plain 211).
Are we talking about business Interstates (as indicated in the OP's text) or business routes in general (as indicated in the subject line and in NE2's response citing US routes)?
Well, both, because focusing just on Business Interstates, we would run out of options quickly.
Lansing, Michigan has four: BL-69, BL-96, BL-US-127, and the Capitol Loop (BL-496).
San Diego has had a Business I-5 and a Business I-8 at the same time though I'm not sure either one still exists.
Oakland used to have Business US 40 (now Route 123) and Business US 50 (which ran along a mile or two of the Cypress section of Route 17/today's I-880, then on surface streets including Grand Avenue).
Was the "Business I-5" along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles a real designation, or just something Rand McNally put on maps regularly decades ago? IIRC, Business US 101 along Ventura Boulevard did exist.
Riverside has a Business Route 91 and used to have a Business US 395.
Bakersfield has a Business Route 58 and a Business Route 99 (which intersect if I am not mistaken).
Lakeland, FL used to have both a Business US 92 and Business US 98 that both ran concurrent through Downtown Lakeland.
Port Huron, MI has both BL I-69 and BL I-94.
Bedford, PA has US 30 Business and US 220 Business.
Suffolk, VA has at least 3. US 13, 58, and 460, and maybe VA 32. Posting exists for the latter but I don't know if it's an official designation.
US 77, and US 83 in Brownsville. Although I heard that the SLD shows only US 77 as it being a designated Business Route, however the signs say otherwise.
Dothan, AL has 3 Business Routes: US 231, US 431, and US 84.
Alexandria, LA has Bus US 165, Bus US 167, and Bus LA 28. At one time US 71 had a business route as well, but it would have been a long time before 28 had its own.
Magnolia, AR has US 79 & US 82 Bus. routes.
El Dorado, AR has US 82 & US 167 Bus. routes, running concurrent.
Natchitoches, LA has LA 1 & LA 6 Bus. routes intersecting in historic downtown.
Baton Rouge, LA has US 61 & US 190 Bus. routes running concurrent.
Laurinburg NC has 4: US 15, US 74, US 401, US 501
I don't believe South Carolina has anyplace that has ever had more than 3.
Mapmikey
Reading, PA has business routes for US 222 and 422.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on February 15, 2015, 10:31:01 AM
Alexandria, LA has Bus US 165, Bus US 167, and Bus LA 28. At one time US 71 had a business route as well, but it would have been a long time before 28 had its own.
That is because it has a BY-PASS so its through town alignment is its mainline.
Lynchburg, VA: US 29/US 460/US 501 Business
(Also, Roanoke has US 11 Alt, US 220 Alt, US 460 Alt... interesting)
Welcome to Wisconsin - the land of concurrent business routes (US 18/151 Business in Verona, Mount Horeb) and WIS 42/57 Business in Sturgeon Bay.
Many Michigan cities have 2 business routes:
Kalamazoo
Grand Rapids
Jackson
Ann Arbor
Holland
even Clare
Plus the aforementioned Port Huron and Lansing
Quote from: NE2 on February 14, 2015, 12:44:36 AM
Warrenton, VA has four. What makes it particularly special is that 15 and 211 Biz go right through downtown, while 17 and 29 Biz actually follow the first-generation bypass (along with plain 211).
Up the road on U.S. 15, Leesburg, Va., has Business Va. 7 (East and West Market Street) and another Business U.S. 15 (North and South King Street).
In Nebraska, Nebraska City has 2 (Business NE 2 and Business US 75) and so does Fremont (Business US 275 and Business US 30), although none of them are officially state-recognized.
Iowa has Business US 75 and Business US 20 in Sioux City. I thought Fort Dodge also had its own Business US 20 as well as Business US 169, but I thought one of them went off the books at some point.
Texas:
Found 3 in each of these (the most I've found so far in a city)
Athens - Bus US 175, Bus TX 19, Bus TX 31
Midland - Bus Loop I-20, Bus TX 158, Bus TX 349
Others around the state with multiples include
Abilene - Bus Loop I-20, Bus US 83
Carthage - Bus US 59, Bus US 79
Corsicana - Bus Loop I-45, Bus US 287
Decatur - Bus US 81-Bus US 287, Bus US 380
Ennis - Bus Loop I-45, Bus US 287
Henderson - Bus US 79, Bus TX 64
Lufkin - Bus US 59, Bus US 69
Midlothian - Bus US 67, Bus US 287
Paris - Bus US 82, Bus US 271
Rhome - Bus US 81, Bus TX 114
Sweetwater - Bus Loop I-20, Bus TX 70
Victoria - Bus US 59, Bus US 77
Wichita Falls - Bus US 277, Bus US 287
Many of the cities with business loops in Wyoming have multiple loops, including:
- Buffalo (25/90/US 87)
- Casper (25/US 20/US 26/US 87)
- Cheyenne (25/80/US 87)
- Douglas (25/US 20/US 26/US 87)
- Evanston (80/US 189)
- Green River (80/US 30)
- Rawlins (80/US 30)
- Rock Springs (80/US 30)
- Sheridan (90/US 14)
- Wheatland (25/US 87)
Greenwood, MS used to have
US 82
US 49E
MS 7
Quote from: txstateends on February 16, 2015, 09:32:12 AM
Texas:
Found 3 in each of these (the most I've found so far in a city)
Athens - Bus US 175, Bus TX 19, Bus TX 31
Midland - Bus Loop I-20, Bus TX 158, Bus TX 349
Others around the state with multiples include
Abilene - Bus Loop I-20, Bus US 83
Carthage - Bus US 59, Bus US 79
Corsicana - Bus Loop I-45, Bus US 287
Decatur - Bus US 81-Bus US 287, Bus US 380
Ennis - Bus Loop I-45, Bus US 287
Henderson - Bus US 79, Bus TX 64
Lufkin - Bus US 59, Bus US 69
Midlothian - Bus US 67, Bus US 287
Paris - Bus US 82, Bus US 271
Rhome - Bus US 81, Bus TX 114
Sweetwater - Bus Loop I-20, Bus TX 70
Victoria - Bus US 59, Bus US 77
Wichita Falls - Bus US 277, Bus US 287
Seymour - BU 183, 277, and 283, which are all concurrent with each other for the entire length, in the most pointless designation ever. Maybe one day they'll build a bridge over the Brazos west of town and reroute US 82 and SH 114 and end up with 5 business routes for a town of 2700.
Wait a minute... 183, 277, and 283 are all concurrent around the town of Seymour. How else should its business route be numbered? I don't think it makes sense to just pick one number and ignore the rest. A business route for three concurrent highways through a town of 2700 is no more silly than a business route with only one number through the same town.
Indiana is generally allergic to BRs, but South Bend and Peru each have two US routes. In South Bend, BR US-20 and US-31 are concurrent for one block in one direction, EB 20 and SB 31, but not in the other. This is subject to change as South Bend is in the process of converting the remaining downtown streets from one-way to two-way. Peru's US 31 and 24 are concurrent for about a mile.
I don't think the Hoosier state has any Interstate business routes, though I stand ready to be corrected.
Quote from: theline on February 16, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
Indiana is generally allergic to BRs, but South Bend and Peru each have two US routes. In South Bend, BR US-20 and US-31 are concurrent for one block in one direction, EB 20 and SB 31, but not in the other. This is subject to change as South Bend is in the process of converting the remaining downtown streets from one-way to two-way. Peru's US 31 and 24 are concurrent for about a mile.
I don't think the Hoosier state has any Interstate business routes, though I stand ready to be corrected.
The last time I was in South Bend in 08, the business routes of both US 31 and US 20 were being removed. On the St. Joseph Valley Parkway (the bypass freeway for both routes) both US 20 Business and US 31 Business were not signed at all. Just "South Bend" and no route number or street name at the ramps leading to them.
I think that there are no business routes left and the old US 33 is now SR 933 along with old US 31 from Notre Dame to the Michigan Border.
Unless there's one that spans multiple cities (and thus doesn't sort properly), Laurinburg NC and Warrenton VA appear to be the only ones with four U.S. business routes. Sort http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NE2/auxiliary by the third column.
Ottumwa, Iowa also has 2 business routes, for US 63 and US 34. Not sure how I missed those, as I drove the length of both of them the last time I was in Ottumwa.
Henryetta, OK Bus I-40, BUS US 62, BUS US 75
Quote from: roadman65 on February 16, 2015, 07:09:08 PM
Quote from: theline on February 16, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
Indiana is generally allergic to BRs, but South Bend and Peru each have two US routes. In South Bend, BR US-20 and US-31 are concurrent for one block in one direction, EB 20 and SB 31, but not in the other. This is subject to change as South Bend is in the process of converting the remaining downtown streets from one-way to two-way. Peru's US 31 and 24 are concurrent for about a mile.
I don't think the Hoosier state has any Interstate business routes, though I stand ready to be corrected.
The last time I was in South Bend in 08, the business routes of both US 31 and US 20 were being removed. On the St. Joseph Valley Parkway (the bypass freeway for both routes) both US 20 Business and US 31 Business were not signed at all. Just "South Bend" and no route number or street name at the ramps leading to them.
I think that there are no business routes left and the old US 33 is now SR 933 along with old US 31 from Notre Dame to the Michigan Border.
Signage of the US-31 and US-20 BRs have always been inconsistent, but I've heard of no plan to remove them. They are locally maintained except for the portion that also serves as SR-933, and the localities have no motivation to remove the designation.
I don't think I saw mention of Salisbury, MD, with a Business US-50 & 13.
Quote from: kphoger on February 16, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
Wait a minute... 183, 277, and 283 are all concurrent around the town of Seymour. How else should its business route be numbered? I don't think it makes sense to just pick one number and ignore the rest. A business route for three concurrent highways through a town of 2700 is no more silly than a business route with only one number through the same town.
All but a half a mile are concurrent with either US 82 or SH 114. I wouldn't have given it a business designation at all, just some random spur route to cover the missing half mile.
Seneca, SC, used to have three (Bus US 123/76-Bus SC 28) but now half of it is the last part of SC 130 and the other half the last part of SC 59
Quote from: dfwmapper on February 16, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
Seymour - BU 183, 277, and 283, which are all concurrent with each other for the entire length, in the most pointless designation ever. Maybe one day they'll build a bridge over the Brazos west of town and reroute US 82 and SH 114 and end up with 5 business routes for a town of 2700.
I did check Google Street View at the edge of town on the bypass, didn't check the TxDOT designations file. Now that I went back to look again, the signage doesn't completely describe the designation (which isn't a total surprise I guess). Bypass BGSes at both ends show just US 183 having the BUS labeling, while pole signage at the turn from the ramp on the south end of the bypass just shows US 277 as having the BUS label. Then the latest in-town signage (March 2013-February 2014) shows full non-BUS signage for all 3 US routes, like there wasn't a bypass.
Quote from: kphoger on February 16, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
Wait a minute... 183, 277, and 283 are all concurrent around the town of Seymour. How else should its business route be numbered? I don't think it makes sense to just pick one number and ignore the rest. A business route for three concurrent highways through a town of 2700 is no more silly than a business route with only one number through the same town.
I have noticed a couple of business routes where only 1 of the 2 main route designations is represented in town on the BUS signage. Bus US 81 in Rhome, NW of Fort Worth, doesn't include signage for US 287 as a BUS route. Same with Durant, OK, even though the main route is US 69 and US 75, the BUS route is only signed as US 69.
In the 1960s, Sacramento had multiple business routes (due to the gradual decommissioning of US 40 and US 99) - unsigned Route 275 was Business I-80 when 80 was still routed on today's business loop freeway, while Del Paso Boulevard and El Camino Avenue in North Sacramento were part of Business US 40. And Stockton Boulevard at the time was Business US 50/99.
Much further north along I-5, the community of Williams has a Business I-5 and a Business Route 20.
Quote from: theline on February 16, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
Indiana is generally allergic to BRs, but South Bend and Peru each have two US routes. In South Bend, BR US-20 and US-31 are concurrent for one block in one direction, EB 20 and SB 31, but not in the other. This is subject to change as South Bend is in the process of converting the remaining downtown streets from one-way to two-way. Peru's US 31 and 24 are concurrent for about a mile.
I don't think the Hoosier state has any Interstate business routes, though I stand ready to be corrected.
What happended to all of the US 41 Business routes in IN? I recall seeing a bunch one year and then none another year.
Vincennes still has a BR 41: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
I'm not familiar with any others. What were you thinking of, Avalanchez?
Quote from: theline on June 19, 2015, 06:15:16 PM
Vincennes still has a BR 41: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
I'm not familiar with any others. What were you thinking of, Avalanchez?
Princeton
Kentland
Morroco?
Terre Haute
Evansville
Business routes in New York are a rare occurrence. No business interstates, one business US route (BR US 62), and I don't know of any business SRs. Route designations typically run along major streets with few freeway bypasses. In spots where a bannered designation could be used, a suffix or three digit number is typically used instead. As such, no cities have more than one signed BR, but there are places with multiple state routes that act as BRs.
Quote from: TheStranger on February 15, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
San Diego has had a Business I-5 and a Business I-8 at the same time though I'm not sure either one still exists.
Oakland used to have Business US 40 (now Route 123) and Business US 50 (which ran along a mile or two of the Cypress section of Route 17/today's I-880, then on surface streets including Grand Avenue).
Was the "Business I-5" along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles a real designation, or just something Rand McNally put on maps regularly decades ago? IIRC, Business US 101 along Ventura Boulevard did exist.
Riverside has a Business Route 91 and used to have a Business US 395.
Bakersfield has a Business Route 58 and a Business Route 99 (which intersect if I am not mistaken).
San Diego's Business 5 is largely gone with only one route marker remaining along Mission Bay Drive in Pacific Beach. Business 8 is fully signed along El Cajon Blvd in the city of El Cajon and partially signed along El Cajon Blvd in San Diego. It is unsigned in the city of La Mesa and almost anywhere (except for one trailblazer shield on 9th Ave) west of I-805.
Business 91 in Riverside is pretty much gone. I went through there two years ago and saw no shields. The old Alt 91 and Bus 91 signs were largely removed when the 91 freeway widening happened in downtown Riverside.
Business 58 in Bakersfield appears to be gone, too. There are no signs for it from 58 itself or on Edison Hwy itself. Having written that, it has been 5 or so years since I last drove on Edison Hwy. By comparison, Business 99 in Bakersfield is probably the best signed 99 business route in California.
Somewhere I saw a picture of a Business 101 shield on Ventura Blvd in Los Angeles, but I cannot recall where I'd seen it. Business Loop I-5 was signed as Business US 6-99 for a time, but I've never since evidence of a Business 5 sign anywhere along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles. I've driven the length of that road and have not seen any Business 5 signs left over - only a few Historic 99 signs. I don't think there are any other business routes in the city of Los Angeles.
San Bernardino has signed Business SR 30, Business SR 18, and almost Business Loop I-10. Business 18-30 share pavement on Highland Ave, and Business 18 takes Sierra Ave north to rejoin its parent. Business 30 should not be signed any longer since its parent is now SR 210, but no one replaced Business 30 with Business 210. Business 10 stays west of San Bernardino to serve Colton along Valley Blvd, but it comes very close to the city limits of San Bernardino. There used to be Business US 66 (later California 106 and now a city street) along Kendall Dr and E Street. A set of signs outside the McDonald's Museum says Historic Business US 66.
Quote from txstate ends:
QuoteBus US 81 in Rhome, NW of Fort Worth, doesn't include signage for US 287 as a BUS route.
Concerning BUS Routes in TX:
In Rhome, it was signed BUS 81 and 287 as of 2010. https://www.google.com/maps/@33.055318,-97.472667,3a,23.8y,10.67h,87.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRG0TtEyz_P-abPIvw2loCw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRG0TtEyz_P-abPIvw2loCw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D72.425934%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.055318,-97.472667,3a,23.8y,10.67h,87.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRG0TtEyz_P-abPIvw2loCw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRG0TtEyz_P-abPIvw2loCw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D72.425934%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656)
So was the one in Decatur. https://www.google.com/maps/@33.201938,-97.56468,3a,23.1y,351.97h,88.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVXwCTnH3w2xEknK4cnyEvQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.201938,-97.56468,3a,23.1y,351.97h,88.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVXwCTnH3w2xEknK4cnyEvQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)In Decatur, some or all the signs on the square used to only have the FM roads, and completely omitted the BUS routes, but that was fixed a few years back.This assembly omits BUS 287 due to space constraints.https://www.google.com/maps/@33.234744,-97.586211,3a,39.9y,281.86h,90.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg0S5JH7vMwpGZUEA-K1oaQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.234744,-97.586211,3a,39.9y,281.86h,90.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg0S5JH7vMwpGZUEA-K1oaQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
In Ft Worth/Saginaw: BUS 287 was signed as regular 287 until recently.
In Lewisville, During a recent sign replacement, TxDOT removed the BUS 121 shields, and replaced them with new non-BUS shields, and failed to add the BUS plaque.
The only time I've seem omissions like you describe is for US Hwy's on BGS's in Chattanooga, TN. On several signs in that city, they omit non-bus US shields. The exit on I-75 for US 41/76 is just signed US 41.
Quote from: TakumiSuffolk, VA has at least 3. US 13, 58, and 460, and maybe VA 32. Posting exists for the latter but I don't know if it's an official designation.
It's not. Officially, vanilla VA 32 still goes through downtown Suffolk.
Quote from: txstateendsI have noticed a couple of business routes where only 1 of the 2 main route designations is represented in town on the BUS signage.
Washington, VA has this...though BUS 522 exists, only BUS 211 is signed.
Quote from: andy3175 on June 20, 2015, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 15, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
San Diego has had a Business I-5 and a Business I-8 at the same time though I'm not sure either one still exists.
Oakland used to have Business US 40 (now Route 123) and Business US 50 (which ran along a mile or two of the Cypress section of Route 17/today's I-880, then on surface streets including Grand Avenue).
Was the "Business I-5" along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles a real designation, or just something Rand McNally put on maps regularly decades ago? IIRC, Business US 101 along Ventura Boulevard did exist.
Riverside has a Business Route 91 and used to have a Business US 395.
Bakersfield has a Business Route 58 and a Business Route 99 (which intersect if I am not mistaken).
San Diego's Business 5 is largely gone with only one route marker remaining along Mission Bay Drive in Pacific Beach. Business 8 is fully signed along El Cajon Blvd in the city of El Cajon and partially signed along El Cajon Blvd in San Diego. It is unsigned in the city of La Mesa and almost anywhere (except for one trailblazer shield on 9th Ave) west of I-805.
Business 91 in Riverside is pretty much gone. I went through there two years ago and saw no shields. The old Alt 91 and Bus 91 signs were largely removed when the 91 freeway widening happened in downtown Riverside.
Business 58 in Bakersfield appears to be gone, too. There are no signs for it from 58 itself or on Edison Hwy itself. Having written that, it has been 5 or so years since I last drove on Edison Hwy. By comparison, Business 99 in Bakersfield is probably the best signed 99 business route in California.
Somewhere I saw a picture of a Business 101 shield on Ventura Blvd in Los Angeles, but I cannot recall where I'd seen it. Business Loop I-5 was signed as Business US 6-99 for a time, but I've never since evidence of a Business 5 sign anywhere along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles. I've driven the length of that road and have not seen any Business 5 signs left over - only a few Historic 99 signs. I don't think there are any other business routes in the city of Los Angeles.
San Bernardino has signed Business SR 30, Business SR 18, and almost Business Loop I-10. Business 18-30 share pavement on Highland Ave, and Business 18 takes Sierra Ave north to rejoin its parent. Business 30 should not be signed any longer since its parent is now SR 210, but no one replaced Business 30 with Business 210. Business 10 stays west of San Bernardino to serve Colton along Valley Blvd, but it comes very close to the city limits of San Bernardino. There used to be Business US 66 (later California 106 and now a city street) along Kendall Dr and E Street. A set of signs outside the McDonald's Museum says Historic Business US 66.
The Business 101 signage I remember along Ventura Blvd was at Topanga Cyn Blvd. I believe it was there through the late 80s and was taken down around the time that section of the Ventura Fwy was rebuilt.
Completely separate from CA, Greeley, CO has business US 85 and US 34
Quote from: froggie on June 20, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Quote from: txstateendsI have noticed a couple of business routes where only 1 of the 2 main route designations is represented in town on the BUS signage.
Washington, VA has this...though BUS 522 exists, only BUS 211 is signed.
There are also examples where only one of the routes is designated at all...
US 19 Bus in Murphy NC and Andrews NC (US 19-129 on the bypass)
US 13 Bus is not designated in Williamston NC or Goldsboro NC although in these cases the bypasses existed before US 13 was routed through these places
US 74 Bus is not designated in Waynesville NC but is in the same boat as US 13
SC 28 Bus in Pendleton SC (US 76 is also on the bypass)
When US 21 Bus through Rock Hill SC existed it did not carry SC 121 Bus while US 21 Bypass carried SC 121.
Only NC 11 Bus is in Aulander NC while NC 11-42 is on the bypass
Mike
Fremont, Ohio has/had what was known as "City Routes", which were essentially business route markers on the original alignments of all the area routes that ODOT later moved to the new bypass which was built around the city in the 60s. The city routes included US-6, US-20 and Ohio routes 12, 19 and 53.
Wasn't there both a Business US 2 and Business US 53 in Superior, WI at one point? Maybe there was only one. Can't find either one on the map, but could have sworn there was something like that when I lived there (many moons ago).
ETA: Maybe I'm thinking of truck routes.
Quote from: US71 on February 17, 2015, 09:11:56 AM
Henryetta, OK Bus I-40, BUS US 62, BUS US 75
Are there business routes for both US 69 and US 75 in Durant, OK? There is going to be another business US highway when they finish the US 70 bypass.
Quote from: SSOWorld on February 15, 2015, 07:26:04 PM
Welcome to Wisconsin - the land of concurrent business routes (US 18/151 Business in Verona, Mount Horeb) and WIS 42/57 Business in Sturgeon Bay.
In Watertown, WI there is a Business WIS 26 AND Business WIS 16, and Monroe, WI has a Business WIS 69 and Business WIS 11 also.
Quote from: peterj920 on June 20, 2015, 07:48:40 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on February 15, 2015, 07:26:04 PM
Welcome to Wisconsin - the land of concurrent business routes (US 18/151 Business in Verona, Mount Horeb) and WIS 42/57 Business in Sturgeon Bay.
In Watertown, WI there is a Business WIS 26 AND Business WIS 16, and Monroe, WI has a Business WIS 69 and Business WIS 11 also.
Though not concurrent, this is true. :bigass:
Quote from: andy3175 on June 20, 2015, 01:04:59 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on February 15, 2015, 05:01:35 AM
San Diego has had a Business I-5 and a Business I-8 at the same time though I'm not sure either one still exists.
Oakland used to have Business US 40 (now Route 123) and Business US 50 (which ran along a mile or two of the Cypress section of Route 17/today's I-880, then on surface streets including Grand Avenue).
Was the "Business I-5" along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles a real designation, or just something Rand McNally put on maps regularly decades ago? IIRC, Business US 101 along Ventura Boulevard did exist.
Riverside has a Business Route 91 and used to have a Business US 395.
Bakersfield has a Business Route 58 and a Business Route 99 (which intersect if I am not mistaken).
San Diego's Business 5 is largely gone with only one route marker remaining along Mission Bay Drive in Pacific Beach. Business 8 is fully signed along El Cajon Blvd in the city of El Cajon and partially signed along El Cajon Blvd in San Diego. It is unsigned in the city of La Mesa and almost anywhere (except for one trailblazer shield on 9th Ave) west of I-805.
Business 91 in Riverside is pretty much gone. I went through there two years ago and saw no shields. The old Alt 91 and Bus 91 signs were largely removed when the 91 freeway widening happened in downtown Riverside.
Business 58 in Bakersfield appears to be gone, too. There are no signs for it from 58 itself or on Edison Hwy itself. Having written that, it has been 5 or so years since I last drove on Edison Hwy. By comparison, Business 99 in Bakersfield is probably the best signed 99 business route in California.
Somewhere I saw a picture of a Business 101 shield on Ventura Blvd in Los Angeles, but I cannot recall where I'd seen it. Business Loop I-5 was signed as Business US 6-99 for a time, but I've never since evidence of a Business 5 sign anywhere along San Fernando Road in Los Angeles. I've driven the length of that road and have not seen any Business 5 signs left over - only a few Historic 99 signs. I don't think there are any other business routes in the city of Los Angeles.
San Bernardino has signed Business SR 30, Business SR 18, and almost Business Loop I-10. Business 18-30 share pavement on Highland Ave, and Business 18 takes Sierra Ave north to rejoin its parent. Business 30 should not be signed any longer since its parent is now SR 210, but no one replaced Business 30 with Business 210. Business 10 stays west of San Bernardino to serve Colton along Valley Blvd, but it comes very close to the city limits of San Bernardino. There used to be Business US 66 (later California 106 and now a city street) along Kendall Dr and E Street. A set of signs outside the McDonald's Museum says Historic Business US 66.
I am not sure who is responsible for California's business route signings, but these routes are poorly signed where I saw them (mainly southern CA but a few along SR-99 as well. No freeways have the shields on their BGSs (in fact they usually have - in text - route XX Business - on a supplementary sign.)
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on June 19, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
Quote from: theline on June 19, 2015, 06:15:16 PM
Vincennes still has a BR 41: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.692777,-87.497926,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suUjTHi9G2R4VNAeaQsbWsw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
I'm not familiar with any others. What were you thinking of, Avalanchez?
Princeton
Kentland
Morroco?
Terre Haute
Evansville
I'm not aware of business routes in Evansville or Terre Haute. The US 41 main line passes right through the business district of Terre Haute. In Evansville, it does bypass downtown. If it ever had a designated BR there, it is long gone. I've never seen a BR in Princeton either.
I visited Kentland several times in the '70s and don't recall any business route. I've not been to Morocco.
I know I saw the business routes in Princeton and somewhere up north up to I think the 90s. I know the Princeton one seemed to be around to the early 2000s I believe. The Evansville one I think was early 90s maybe late 80s.
If the Hot Springs bypass (US 70 and US 270) is ever complete to the AR 5/7 intersection then that would give Hot Springs 3 business routes.
I found a group of Business US routes in Eatonton, GA, Business US 129 and 441 along with Business GA 44.
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_275 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_275)
Now only Business loop 80 Exists and shares the route with US-50, CA-51 and I-305.
http://www.interstate-guide.com/business-routes/bus80.html
Quote from: bing101 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
[citation needed]
Quote from: NE2 on June 23, 2015, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: bing101 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
[citation needed]
I agree with NE2.
I believe you mis-interpreted the Wikipedia article on CA-275. While CA-275 is a spur off of Business 80, it was never signed with a green Interstate shield which is what you implied when you said "Business Spur 80".
Greenwood, MS used to have Bus US 82/ Bus US 49E / Bus MS 7 running concurrent.
Aguadilla, Puerto Rico has two "Ramal" routes, PR 2R and PR 110R, which are essentially equivalent to business routes used stateside.
Quote from: DandyDan on February 16, 2015, 07:40:48 AM
Iowa has Business US 75 and Business US 20 in Sioux City. I thought Fort Dodge also had its own Business US 20 as well as Business US 169, but I thought one of them went off the books at some point.
They're both still around. Business US 169 recently went from state to local control, but it still appears on the state transportation map. Business US 20 was already under local control for the most part.
In addition to them and Ottumwa, Mount Pleasant has Business US 34 and Business US 218, which are both sparsely signed. Also, Clarinda has Business US 71 and Business IA 2.
Then there is Clear Lake, which has both Business Loop I-35 and Business US 18 within the city limits, but both end at the same interchange with I-35. Business Loop I-35 runs along US 18 and city streets in Clear Lake, and Business US 18 follows IA 122 and US 65 mostly in Mason City.
Quote from: xcellntbuy on June 23, 2015, 06:15:33 PM
I found a group of Business US routes in Eatonton, GA, Business US 129 and 441 along with Business GA 44.
Business US 19 and US 41 do the same thing in Griffin, except that there is no Business GA 3 along for the ride - they instead use the mainlines of GA 92, GA 16, and GA 155.
Quote from: froggie on June 20, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
Quote from: TakumiSuffolk, VA has at least 3. US 13, 58, and 460, and maybe VA 32. Posting exists for the latter but I don't know if it's an official designation.
It's not. Officially, vanilla VA 32 still goes through downtown Suffolk.
Quote from: txstateendsI have noticed a couple of business routes where only 1 of the 2 main route designations is represented in town on the BUS signage.
Washington, VA has this...though BUS 522 exists, only BUS 211 is signed.
Bedford, VA is another weird example. US 460 and VA 122 definitely have business routes, but I am unsure about US 221 (I do not remember an actual business banner in the town).
EDIT: VDOT's traffic log from last year does not include a business route for US 221. However, the way I remember it being posted decently along the US 460 and VA 122 bypasses shows to me that Bedford at least wishes it did.
Quote from: cl94 on June 19, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
Business routes in New York are a rare occurrence. No business interstates, one business US route (BR US 62), and I don't know of any business SRs. Route designations typically run along major streets with few freeway bypasses. In spots where a bannered designation could be used, a suffix or three digit number is typically used instead. As such, no cities have more than one signed BR, but there are places with multiple state routes that act as BRs.
There is a Business NY52 in Beacon.
Additionally, the old alignment of US219 near Salamanca is signed as Business US219.
Fairly common in Virginia. Gate City, for instance, signs business routes for US 23, US 58 and US 421. The old route from Norton to Big Stone Gap is signed both Business US 23 and Business Alternate US 58.
Joplin, MO US71/BL49, BL44
Springfield, MO US65, BL44...
A part of me wants to say Columbia also has two...
Eau Claire Wi has 2, almost 3.
BUS US 12(New US 12 is an arterial running through city)
BUS US 53(New bypass runs parallel to city, Bus 53 now arterial owned by City)
And almost BUS 29 (Near City)
Quote from: myosh_tino on June 23, 2015, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: NE2 on June 23, 2015, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: bing101 on June 23, 2015, 07:36:33 PM
Sacramento Used to have a Business Spur 80 aka CA-275
[citation needed]
I agree with NE2.
I believe you mis-interpreted the Wikipedia article on CA-275. While CA-275 is a spur off of Business 80, it was never signed with a green Interstate shield which is what you implied when you said "Business Spur 80".
Indeed CA 275 was not Business Spur 80. It was an unsigned state route with a freeway component that was later dismantled in favor of today's Tower Gateway. However, for what it's worth, I've identified several sources indicating that there was a predecessor Business 80 in West Sacramento that followed West Capitol Ave between the current 80/Bus 80 split and the approach to the Tower Bridge. The first evidence I found was a Gousha oil company map of Sacramento from the late 1960s showing Business US 40 existing on West Capitol Ave during the time period between the original construction of the east-west freeway through West Sacramento (initially signed as US 40-99W in the 1960s) and once Interstate 80 was routed along the freeway. Once I-80 was in place and US 40 was phased out, I found a 1970s era AAA map of Sacramento showing what appeared to be business route for I-80 on West Capitol Ave. However, I couldn't figure out if it was ever signed or whether it was a business "loop" or "spur." The business route did not appear to cross the Sacramento River nor enter downtown Sacramento. Jerry Mullady, who used to provide me with commentary and feedback on various old business routes in Northern California, advised me in 1999 that it was signed as a business spur. He is also the one who first told me that CA 275 was not signed (which I later verified for myself). However, I have no photographic evidence of whether a green business loop or spur sign was ever posted in the field on West Capitol Ave, and for sure any remnant business route signage on West Capitol Ave was gone when the Business Loop 80 Freeway (Capital City Freeway) was signed in 1982. California is notoriously poor at signing business routes, and if the local jurisdiction had control of signs, it's anyone's guess as to how long they lasted in the field, if at all.
Quote from: JMAN12343610 on July 05, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
Eau Claire Wi has 2, almost 3.
BUS US 12(New US 12 is an arterial running through city)
BUS US 53(New bypass runs parallel to city, Bus 53 now arterial owned by City)
And almost BUS 29 (Near City)
Business 12 has been decommissioned in Eau Claire for years
Does (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bannered_routes_of_U.S._Route_30#Downingtown_business_loop_alternate_truck_route (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bannered_routes_of_U.S._Route_30#Downingtown_business_loop_alternate_truck_route)) this count? Or maybe US 17 Truck Business in Elizabeth City, NC? :bigass:
Quote from: peterj920 on August 11, 2015, 09:27:13 AM
Quote from: JMAN12343610 on July 05, 2015, 10:44:14 PM
Eau Claire Wi has 2, almost 3.
BUS US 12(New US 12 is an arterial running through city)
BUS US 53(New bypass runs parallel to city, Bus 53 now arterial owned by City)
And almost BUS 29 (Near City)
Business 12 has been decommissioned in Eau Claire for years
Oh. Google maps still shows the western part of it in the city as BUS 12. And I could have sworn I've seen business 12 signs on Bus 53/Hastings way before.
Quote from: intelati49 on June 25, 2015, 02:45:29 PM
Joplin, MO US71/BL49, BL44
Springfield, MO US65, BL44...
A part of me wants to say Columbia also has two...
There have been 2 different Business 71's in Joplin, plus a Business US 66 at one time.
Springfield had Business 66, Business 166 at one time. Business 65 has had 2 alignments.